Turns out the OP is running a scam, and not the charity (no charity license!) he claims. But he wants to reassure you that all the public identities of his board of directors (no corporation license!) will be disclosed to the stakeholders (no corporation license!) once he collects a large sum of non-reversible currency.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002378.msg11371652#msg11371652Do all his sponsors know he is running a scam? Esp Hobonickels - I know thy are pro-charity and anti-greed.Oh my is this true. Is Armis scammer? Can you give him negative red trust vod? He has negative trust. Keep in mind, his "guarantee" is worthless - he will not reveal his identity and will disappear with your coins at any time. 'real life identity identification' in anonymous environments means he'll give you his username and nothing else.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0 |
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Turns out the OP is running a scam, and not the charity (no charity license!) he claims. But he wants to reassure you that all the public identities of his board of directors (no corporation license!) will be disclosed to the stakeholders (no corporation license!) once he collects a large sum of non-reversible currency. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002378.msg11371652#msg11371652Do all his sponsors know he is running a scam? Esp Hobonickels - I know thy are pro-charity and anti-greed.Oh my is this true. Is Armis scammer? Can you give him negative red trust vod? see that Vod, your reckless actions has caused a volunteer to question the truth. Your actions, not mine. Stop playing anonymous pretend charity.  |
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You need to read one of the 15 articles about PICISI. I think when you do that you will find a common thread that says integrity.
Yes, I understand the "long con", thanks.  |
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It seems that the OP somehow knew that BitcoinBoss666 was an alt of the person who took out the loan, so he gave him negative trust ~a week ago. Then BitcoinBoss666 saw the trust and didn't like it so he left a negative on the OP saying that even though he defaulted the collateral was worth much more then the loan amount so he should not be labeled a scammer. (The fact that you cannot give any kind of trust rebuttal or response is a flaw in the trust system).
I don't think anyone got scammed here. The OP gave a loan for .1 but got .3 worth of collateral. He profits regardless if the loan is repaid. BitcoinBoss666 consented to giving his account as collateral for the .1 loan and when his gambling strategy didn't work out he lost his account (this is pretty clearly a gambling loan).
I don't think the trust given to the OP was calling him a scammer but was rather giving a rebuttal to the rating that was left on his trust profile.
IMO, if a rebuttal or a response could be left then we would probably see less retaliatory feedback left and would probably see less drama regarding the trust system (but maybe not very much less).
I shouldnt gave him a Neg trust so that he can SCAM Others too? I never scam nobody. You earn +200% on this loan and you call it scam? What is wrong with you? Its Not the thing that How much profit I made from that Account, It the you defaulted in the Loan You have made your point. I would just stop replying to him and do whatever you want with the collateral. There was no agreement that you would refund excess amounts, was there? (In the future, though, I think this might happen!) |
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Senior account worth 0.1 ? you really joke. This account is worth min 0.3BTC. You earn 0.2BTC on this loan and call me scammer? What the hell is wrong with you?
You are a scammer because you didn't repay the loan. Not difficult to understand. This is interesting. In an extreme case, if someone hypothetically provided 10x collateral on a loan and defaulted, you would label them a scammer? I would've assumed the collateral is part of the "deal" such that, whether or not the original loan amount is repaid, the lender is satisfied (else the conditions of collateral wouldn't be agreed to). That's a good point. If I owed the bank $100 and they had $200 in my RRSPs as collateral, they would probably return the extra $100 to me after the initial debt was satisfied. |
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So it does! Thank you so much!!! +1 |
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Senior account worth 0.1 ? you really joke. This account is worth min 0.3BTC. You earn 0.2BTC on this loan and call me scammer? What the hell is wrong with you?
You are a scammer because you didn't repay the loan. Not difficult to understand. Yea im scammer becouse he earn 0.2BTC on this loan. Good job. That why he get collateral worth 300%, and now he call me scammer. If i take loan without collateral he can call me scammer. But he earn 300% on this loan ! And you Know that you are Not going to Return me Loan you got from me? LOL, Did you paid me on Time? If you had had repaid me then I surely return this account to you before the end Date. But you never paid me, And Now you are asking me for that account. If I say I had sold that account for .1 BTC when It was a full member? Just sell the account to someone else. Recover your 0.1btc, and if you make a little profit, good for you! Maybe BB666 will learn to repay his debts on time. |
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Well, I cannot sleep, so I'll just comment on this: I have a Satisfaction Guaranteed policy.
Nice Policy. But... Guaranteed/Backed by what? dunno You are anonymous and refuse to identify yourself. You report to no one - you can close down and run off with the coins at any time. The coins are non-reversible and cannot be claimed back. You cannot be held accountable civilly or legally. Your guarantee is not worth the time you took to type it. |
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Senior account worth 0.1 ? you really joke. This account is worth min 0.3BTC. You earn 0.2BTC on this loan and call me scammer? What the hell is wrong with you?
You are a scammer because you didn't repay the loan. Not difficult to understand. |
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I read about a new website that can detect image people. Google it up yourself.
If you are using Chrome, simply click on the image and select "Search Google for this image". |
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Lastly it was not for a loan here but rather on another website that you now are trying to control how I use.
That on its own is very unfair!
Then don't come over here promoting it, and we would never have known of your scam attempt. You have increased the loan amount requested by over 700%
You have increase the interest you are willing to pay by 300% |
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If you want it to be threated like a gambling game, do what other gambling games do. Make it provably fair.
OP - I believe your path is laid out for you. Good luck! |
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I'm saying any reasonable person would go where lead, especially if you put blinders on them so that they only see in the direction you are leading them.
So the five people that have voted no could not be reasonable, since they didn't go where I lead, especially with the blinders I put on them? You're not making sense any more. Talk to you later. |
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See Vod you jump on people too quickly.
I cannot tell you how much I was irritated with you earlier.
You can really push my buttons and it doesn't seem just me.
So pay for shipping like I said about 2 pages back and I will ship it to you. Will you follow through with it??
I'm not interested in doing escrow. But there is a list of members who will escrow on this forum. For the little bit of coin they make, I doubt they will pay for shipping. |
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I was not in the accusation mode while I sent you the PM. I just noted your post count after sending the PM. This was your last post then => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059939.msg11369539#msg11369539. When I saw, you made a LOT of posts after this, but did NOT reply to me, I created this post. The site clearly mentions that it is A bitcoin gambling game. What else I can mention to make people aware that they can lose their coins ? Sometimes when I am in the middle of something and the "new personal message" notification comes up, I ignore it to continue what I'm doing, and return to it later. |
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Its not an excuse.
I was happy to ship my spare iPhone 4s, and GPUs to use as collateral and put in 2.5btc into escrow.
If that doesn't count as collateral nothing will and nothing will please you.
It does count as collateral! Go for it! |
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Lastly he wouldnt even consider other forms contary to his own post for collateral. End of the day is gone. And I'm done. He thinks be saved the community so let him think that. All I see is he lost people that wanted to invest some interest.
Of course I was considering other forms of collateral. But you just wanted to take pictures of them. You were never serious about using them. You have your chance now. Find an escrow and mail the items to be held, then ask for a loan. I'm sure you'll get one here with no fees. But stop making excuses on why you won't follow the rules, ok? |
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You are jumping to the wrong conclusions over and over again, at least now you are not making such grand leaps any more.
I know you will eventually come to the truth, my hope is that you do the right thing and clean up the trail of mess you are creating.
So far 50% of people think you are a charity! Even if it were half that, wouldn't an honest person think maybe he/she was wrong? Change begins at home, friend. Re-evaluate your business name and if you are going to entrust yourself as the final say for donations, make yourself publicly known. None of this anonymous coward crap - anonymous just means you intend to scam. I can't help you until you help yourself. |
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how could anyone that is reasonable make any other choice,
So you state that the three people who have answered "no" so far are not reasonable? |
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I came across their thread a few times and didn't give them negative trust.
Is that the new standard of trust now? I hadn't even dealt with his PM yet. Now that he has stated I'm " clearly abusing" my position in DefaultTrust, that I'm irresponsible, unreasonable and illogical, I'm not making it my priority over sleep. OP has no patience. I'll look at it again in my morning. If the OP wants to be more realistic with his site, and clearly list the risks associated with his game (he doesn't even state you can lose coins!) then I can reconsider my trust. |
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