windy..
gmax in this very thread acknowledged the bilateral fork
gmax also stated that people need to change old versions to be compatible with bitcoin 2019
thus bitcoin 2019 is not the same as bitcoin 2009

you just need to look at the raw block data to see the structural changes of the data
so if you want to believe gmax. atlast acknowledge what he is saying not what you wish he was saying

if you tak out his personal bias and his name calling. (the only bits you love about him) atleast start caring about the code and bitcoin and start researching BITCOIN not the social opinions of gmax

i personally dont care about gmax name calling m. because 'franky1' is not my birth certified name so it does me no harm. all i care about is the direction gmax and his chums are taking bitcoin in. as thats all that really matters.. bitcoin.. not devs

devs come and go, get bored, get paid off, change/lose their morals. so try to atleast care more about bitcoin. not a dev

stick to being a comedian. you make people laugh

you need to eat 750g of tofu vs 240g of meat to get same protein requirement
you need to eat 1kg of tofu vs 240g of meat to get same fat requirement
you need to eat 3.5kg of tofu vs 1kg of meat to get the same calories requirement

so on average you need to eat more than 3x of tofu than meat to use tofu as a replacement
(triple decker tofu quarter pounder burger instead of a quarter pounder beef burger)

also tofu/soy then requires people to eat 'fortified'(chemically added in manufacturing) soy/tofu products
which as anyone know if something needs to be added via supplements or manufacturing. then obviously the bas product is very deficient in those nutrients naturally

so going full tofu or 'organic soy' (not fortified) can be worse than eating meat.
especially with the lengthier digestion times to convert the nutrients and the larger amounts needing to be consumed, can make you feel uncomfortable

so its about finding a balanced meat and 2 veg diet(portion: meat1:2veg) for the best balanced non fortified/supplemented diet

id see this as complex.
for instance, running a 'money service business without a licence' - punishment upto $5k fine per violation
to a common person that does local exchanges of ~$100 at a 1% fee thats 5000 transactions to pay  fine. but those 5000 transactions cause 5000 fines meaning $25m in fines

to a institution thats just a 1% fee on a $500k transaction. so by doing transactions of $1m+ they actually make money while breaking the law and not having to be regulated

this is why big businesses get away with alot of crimes because they just treat fines as a value added cost of doing business
whilst the 'little people' get stuck in a cycle they cant escape from leading to further punishments for not being able to pay fines

that documentary was interesting

the average man needs just 60g of protein a day
with meat being 25% protein it means 240g of meat
(2 quarter pounders)

so that UFC fighter eating 2kg of steak each day was eating way more protein than needed(500g)
however vegetables only have 3% protein. meaning you need to eat 2kg of vegetables just to get 60g of protein

so yes 2kg of meat is stupid. and instead think of it as one hamburger patty size piece of meat 2 times a day is sufficient
NOT 2 huge steaks
otherwise you will need to be chewing on ALOT of vegetables if not eating meat at all

also animals dont make protein from other meat. they just get protein already created from other meat. the actual protein creation is as the documentary said made from enzymes breaking down vegetation.

but to digest and break down 2kg of vegetation and turn it into protein rather than just get it ready made is something of an adjustment
(people get smelly breath and burp and fart alot as the gut bacteria die off and decay for fresh vegetable friendly gut bacteria to do its work)

so try transitioning slowly or stick to a balanced mix diet. not too heavy on the meat, but still having meat to not go too heavy on the veg.

it takes the body 3-4 times longer to digest and convert nutrients from veg than to just get straight supply from other animals
EG converting fructose (fruit sugar) into glucose, and if there is excess, then into fat. takes alot of effort.
where as meats already have it in biological form ready for usage or storage, thus saving the fructose->glucose conversion effort(but yes with meat, more chance of storing excess and getting fat)
yes meat has some bad enzymes in it. as thats the waste us living animals need to excrete so again eating 2kg of meat instead of 240g of meat is not recommended. dont eat too much meat. you dont need it

but what the veggie crowd dont tell you is 2kg of veg also produces alot of waste too.
so this is why some athletes/vegans dont go full 2kg of veg but instead 1kg of veg and then protein shakes and vitamin supplements to get the balance.

its all about finding the right balance
if you can handle 2kg of veg a day, go for it. or find a balance that suits you either less veg and more supplements or a fair balance of 'meat and 2 veg' medium size plate twice a day

my point being though
many vegan radicals think that they can have a perfect diet on small amount of veg.. sorry they are wrong.
many people end up having to grind their veg into smoothies to get the nutrition but in a liquid form so they are not bloated as much as eating it in solid form.(plus it helps speed up the digestion and conversion delay of veg compared to meats 'ready made' nutrition intake)

1. can bitcoin version0.1.x->0.11.x verify signatures of SEGWIT. - NOPE (thus the 2016-2017 change)
2. bitcoin nodes are suppose to fully verify full block and full transaction data. but it wont
3. will a bitcoin node version 0.1.x->0.11.x store FULL BLOCK DATA of all block information of 2017-2019 - NOPE
4. old nodes are given a stripped version that lacks crucial things to be able to verify a transaction was signed properly
5. can bitcoin version0.1.x->0.11.x relay ALL transaction types of bitcoin - NOPE
because bitcoin <=2016 and bitcoin 2017 => are different

as for trying to say that bitcoin 0.18 is the same as 0.8.x or bitcoin0.1.x ... but then go about explaining that lots of changes are needed to just make 0.1.x work. shows that bitcoin has changed.

saying that the code needs to be changed to work means its not the same thing.
and also you have not been honest about how many likes of code are needed.
its involving using an entirely different database structure. so is not a simple change a variable thing.

an your foolish attempt to hide the changes to bitcoin by saying about 'address formats are just UI based' is you misleading
segwit based addresses are technically at code level and inside blockdata level different than legacy
the way addresses are treated are different. both in how they are verified (using a different txid. different signature methods and even where in a transaction the signature sits within block data

heck bitcoin 2009-2016 had no possible way to make blocks over 1mb.. yet 2017-2019 blocks are over 1mb
so even looking just at the size of blocks shows there are changes done

but good luck with your hiding the facts

anyone can take a look at the raw data(not UI representation) of a legacy tx and rawdata(not UI representation) of a segwit tx and see there is major differences

but hey gmaxwell does not like being called out on his lies so bans his opposition. just like a bilateral fork banning opposition that dont like his and his buddies code ideas

consensus suppose to be where no upgrades can be done unless high majority consent to it
core didnt get high majority so thy banned the opposition to get a fake majority by not counting the opposition

EG
imagine
hilary 50%  trump %50
trump asks for a recount but to only count the trump ballots
suddenly election results show 100% trump

oh and this quote
actually core nodes were banning non core nodes HOURS before cash nodes even made a block with a different difficulty..
blockchain data shows that bitcoin cash did not even make a block until hours later. because they were banned from the core network

but atleast thank you for admitting there was a bilateral split AND a hard fork. you deserve another 50 merit for atleast clearing that matter up.. i hope windfury atleast acknowledges that too. (he your number one fan gmax)
(50 merit will be added to gmax in a week after the 30 day waiting period expires)

id not advocating teaching petty criminals to then become gun friendly and ok with killing another. after all the PTSD of servicemen already isnt good.
because its like being locked up for stealing a bottle of vodka. and then getting trained up on how to rob a bank at gunpoint

but the severe criminals that were already ok with killing. well. put them on the front line and make that the 'death row'

but yes for the other parts about petty crimes prison is the wrong place, because while in prison inmates talk and some end up endocrinating others into forming gangs and learning new criminally larger skills..

also to add
the military employment is not just to put a gun in a guys hands and teach him to shoot. many servicemen have office jobs, are mechanics, chef's, pilots and never get to have a gun in their hand pointing towards an enemy. so some of the 'non violent' offenders could be trained to be mechanics, intel specialists and cooks

epstein link to peadophile acts is a known thing from DECADES ago
epstein link to clinton is a known thing from DECADES ago
epstein link to trump is a known thing from DECADES ago
epstein link to a british royal is a known thing from DECADES ago

it aint something of 3 years ago
so th story is basically a video got leaked and someone got fired for leaking a video.
again not about the content of the video

heck i can make a video that says '3 years ago i had evidence of a real pokemon'
the hype this year wont be about pokemon but about that someone who leaked my video of what i said got fired

anyway. now 'the leaker' is gonna be rich.
alot of free time to research and find the OLD REAL info from DECADES ago and then go and publish a book saying what they found was just 3 years ago. then go on book tours and star on 'the ellen show'

your the one that meandered into all the blah of common law
you do know a politician doesnt stick the needle in.. a nurse does
you do know a vaccine is a chemical not a code of law.
and its called disease, not debt.
so its you thats stuck. i was just correcting you

here is some medial advice
if you have a medical problem but you want a second opinion. dont seek the advice of Lentz(ys i know you would try searching for his advice.. but just dont do it)

he wasnt blackmailing them. its not like he kidnapped important elitist people and made them have sex..
those 'special people' just got invited to parties and told to have a good time for free. and in exchange the 'special people' invite him to their parties

a prison skyscraper. with the first 2 floor as a mall for all the inmates to shop in (and work in)
college and library above that
with the next few floors as the laundry and kitchens (more work availability)
then the residential above that.
going from menial basic standards up to the penthouse exclusivity the higher you go

with it being self sustainable via the prisoners doing work and gaining experience, skills and training. aswell as earning a 'bonus' which can be used for luxuries in the shops or upgrade their cell to higher standards

for me id say morning after pill and stuff ok in the first month. as thats not abortion as such because its still a gooey bubble of cells and a tail.

but the real cut off line is the 23 week area where the fetus becomes viable life. you know, the point where if the mother had a emergency c-section the baby would survive as it would have developed enough to live without its mother sustaining it.

however the 23 week cut off line should b for proper things like the health of the fetus looks like its disabilities wont allow it to have a rewarding life... where life itself would be an agonising punishment

drink driving.
id question that one
as that has a higher risk of harming someone.
id not just make them pay a fine. id make them do some sobriety AA meetings and maybe have their vehicle fitted with a bell chime or whistle so that people around can hear him driving more so than other vehicles.
plus maybe he'd decide not to take his car to the local bar and walk/get a cab instead


as for prostitution
why make using the muscles between lgs a crime but a guy on a building site using his biceps to lay bricks not a crime.
just have it licencd and managed.
EG in the UK building company need to certify their bricklayers and always have a foreman onsite. plus regular healthchecks
prostitutes have a licence and regular healthchecks and have a security guard onsite.

and to all other readers
just like my bell chime on car to warn pedestrians and other road users a drunk is nearby, and as a embarrassing thing to dter wanting to drive to bars.
what out of the box new punishments would you feel could b a effctive deterant that has not been done before but could/should be done

imagine the world of possibilities were open
even instead of paying $16k for 6month jail. you give someone $16k of college tuition or $16k of taxi fare tokns to that persons local bar to hand out to drunk people to get home safely

OP's data is flawed beyond belief

all he has done pretty much is claim a chart represents
the market price 2010-2012 multiplied by 10.5m
the market price 2012-2016 multiplied by 5.25m
the market price 2016+ multiplied by 2.65m

what he fails to attribute to the data is the fact that the market price is not of sales of every coin in circulation.
infact the market price chances by $'s for only  couple btc.
exchanges themselves are not hoarding 18m coins today. they are only hoarding 1.2m coins so the supplydemand dynamics of a markets price are not to do with the circulation of 18mill coins..

put simply
a) whether he done the market price multiplied by 10.5m
b) or market price multiplied by 50coin

a) whether he done the market price multiplied by 5.25m
b) or market price multiplied by 25coin

a) whether he done the market price multiplied by 2.65m
b) or market price multiplied by 12.5coin


both charts a and b would show the exact same pattern of price curve and rarity step
the only thing that changes is the legends/labels

things the charts miss are
1. coin creation costs dont double every 4 years and halt at each step(its a fluid transition due to difficulty over time)
2. the market does not have 18m hoard/supply it has about 1.2m supply at present and even back in 2013 with MTGox as the main exchange only having ~900k coins and other exchanges less totalling again around the same 1.2m supply

so sorry dude but you need to add more metrics into your math if you want to actually show stock:flow

two scenarios and potential damage:

1. major unfixable bug in bitcoin
reality: exchanges would just stop accpting deposits thus limiting how many coins people can put into an exchange to sell
also those buying wont want to buy coin. thus limiting people from accepting sell offers.
so imagining this weeks 1.2m coin exchange hoard. although if all thm coins were put on sell the 1.2m coins in exchanges already could have the potential to bring the price crashing down to 0 but who would be handing thir $$ over for what would then be a bag of crap
a good example was MTGox which when issues arised tanked thee price from $1k to ~$100. it didnt go to $5 as they halted deposits/withdrawals(but people were still internally trading as if it just become a free-for all internal game playing with balances of no real world 'value'(coz you couldnt withdraw into real value)

2. some speculation, bad news, or a whale sale
the price can dip. but many people would still have underlying value support where they would be still willing to buy at a certain price. for instance those willing to mine and knowing it costs ~$6k to mine at its lowst cost. they would be literally throwing all their $$ at the markets to buy btc if it went down to $5k. and those selling at $5k would happily buy in at $4k again for 20% more coin
thus thickening the support walls at increments until there is no fools left to sell at a loss
its literally like.
if 100k coins at play to be sold at $5k
buy wall at $4k of 120k coins. needing fools to sell 120 coins for $4k to break that
if 120k coins at play to be sold at $4k
buy wall at $3k of 150k coins. needing fools to sell 150k coins for $3k to break that
if 150k coins at play to be sold at $3k
buy wall at $2k of 200k coins. needing fools to sell 200k coins for $2k to break that
if 200k coins at play to be sold at $2k
buy wall at $1k of 400k coins. needing fools to sell 400k coins for $1k to break that
if 400k coins at play to be sold at $1k

well ill stop there. because although there may be 1.2m coins in exchanges. that aint $1.2m in a single exchange. thats 1.2m spread over several exchanges... basically meaning there are not enough fools per exchange to sell at a loss to keep the price tumbling

you dont understand common law, you understand 'freeman' law.
under common law people would still be signed into 'citizenship'
but atleast people would know the boundaries of harm loss damage and tresspass
(yes injections are doctors tresspassing on your body, aswell as potentially harming you... they need your consent)

so imagine you personally had control of the rulebook(law) and the moneybag(treasury) how would you design a new systm

EG
victimless crime (person taking his own drugs himself or a woman agreeing consentualy to prostitute herself) deserve jailtime, or some kind of rehab?

would you redesign prisons

what laws would you strengthen or relax

the thing is. th government aint broke a law unless you can supply evidence.
but your charts you linked aint evidence as the charts have no bases
i could make a chart that says badecker has 1 hair on his head for every 10 hairs i have
i can colour the chart red and blue and post it on som website

but the chart is not backd by anything. its just an empty chart

the problem is that some people stupidly think the chart is backed by somthing.

people who are actually against vaccinations should get themselves togethr, pay in $10 and have a large money pot collectively to fund their own studies to get some proper results to display. not the shoddy stuff you display.

if anti-vaccinaters had a actual claim, and evidence of truth of the claim then yes governments would have to act. and yes things would change
but showing shoddy crap charts of meaningless numbers, ends with nothing happening but duping stupid people

in short
GET SOME REAL DATA OR SHUT UP
unless you can prove something you wont win a debate

probably because the main veggie stereotype is the peace and love, 'grow what 'nature' provides and eat its fruits'. the peaceful harmony people that dont want torture and death..

.. then at a protest, violence.. which obviously goes against the peaceful harmony free life of no harm or torture.
so many would and they probably right to say.. the violent protests are not the ones against torture if they themselves want to cause harm

what you call god is not a single entity with 7billion tenticals touching everyone

if you read the bible from a critical thinking point. it is a book of camp fire stories later wrote down where philosophers try to understand biology, physics, evolution and also stories to form the initial basic morals for people to know whats right and wrong

god is not a single man, god is your subconscious, we all have our own subconscious
a good subconcious we name good(god) a evil subconcious we name evil(devil)

when you pray. your not praying to some omni being in the sky. your talking to that little voice in your head that tells you that its wrong to bang your neighbours wife, tells you to move your hand away when you put it too near a fire or the sharp side of a knife. its the voice that tells you not to pinch a wallet thats hanging out the pocket of a person walking infront of you

its not some omni being that has its own shared consciousness with other people and is telling everyone what to do.. it is your personal subconcious for you and you alone
this is why different people view their god differently. some people view it as if they do good they get rewarded, if they do bad they will get forgiven if they are remorseful, or just end up in a agonising loop of PTSD/depression if they cant forgive themself
some people are the 'god fearing' thinking they will be smitted and feel agony even for doing small harmless bad things.

anyway all this stuff has nothing to do with imagining your own system of rules and consequences.
so come on badecker. stick to the topic.
imagine this as your opertunity to design your own court, your rules of right and wrong, and of course the consequences
come on i know you secretly want to invent your own court. so her is your chance

ill make it easy. just use the 4 categories and give examples of each and show the possible consequences.
harm - consequence
loss - consequence
damage - consequence
tresspass -consequence