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12621  Other / Off-topic / Re: Explain to me why you think you are more knowledgable about bitcoin than me on: December 08, 2019, 02:57:10 AM
seems like you are angry at the world. i can understand things get emotional. but remaining angry helps no one and can mess with your health if it goes on too long.
and if you look at my post history you will see i am on these forums and active daily.
i am not an occasional trader i am an active trader. i do not follow the crappy 'trend' analysis stuff of drawing lines on charts based purely on previous lines. i actually study technical considerations such as how much coins are hoarded in exchanges coldwallets(bitcoin richlist) vs how much exits those addresses

i also look at the cost of mining as a base number of costs. and also the UTXO movements of how much moves in certain periods to see if people are actively moving funds around or just hoarding. which helps me to base if a bitcoin price is near value or speculative way to high above value.

when analysing the UTXO over time you can start pairing utxo's to a value of the time the funds move and thus get to know what values different peoples holdings have.
EG i still have coins from when they were $6 in 2012 so i could happily sell all the way down to $7 and call it profit..
knowing peoples minimums (id consider $5 a loss) means you get to see what is the absolute bottom number people will sell for to break even and you can start to form a map of value.. and along with mining costs. you can build up what is known as a 'support level' for bottom line values

but here is a tip for when you withdraw your funds from foreign exchanges and use US exchanges
do not put all your funds into one order.
split it up into 5-10 allotments. do not try to grab 5%-10% movements. just aim for 1%-2% movements. they happen many times a day so you can rinse and repeat often and accumulate more than 5%-10% when combining the efforts than you would if just waiting, hoping and praying for waves of 5%-10% or tsunami's of 15%+

if you put one order in and the price doesnt move up. leave it there and while the price moves down put another order in. that way you have 9 other opportunities to ride a dip or hit the lift
just keep riding the small ripples and dont be waiting all day for the tsunami's

when you start lowering your expectations of large spreads and just nibble at the small movements you become less concerned and less worried about the whale orders. you actually start to use the whale orders to your advantage

the funny thing is in 2013 i experienced the same whale order thing as you (MTGox was great then) when there were whales trading 5000btc at a time. i soon learned how to use it to my advantage and learned to appreciate the walls as it actually made me more productive going with their flow instead of treating them as the enemy..
again i didnt put in my huge hoards, i was happily playing with smaller amounts within the walls

but first before considering any of this. take your funds out of foreign exchanges and use one within your jurisdiction
12622  Other / Off-topic / Re: Explain to me why you think you are more knowledgable about bitcoin than me on: December 08, 2019, 02:15:53 AM
i have been involved in bitcoin since 2012. so if this is a battle about time length. well my 2012 beats your 2014

i have been trading many years although i am not the whale in question, my hoard far surpasses the '500btc' walls you complain about. infact if i was to put my hoards in at once you would see this as manipulative but i would see it as me just trading my funds like everyone else, just that i happen to have more.

i personally dont put my hoards into an exchange for many reasons but i do put in some play money. but if i was to use my split order strategy with the hoards you would be complaining more and crying that it was some form of orchestrated plan. when in reality is i would be just trading.

as for the jurisdictional stuff
you as a US citizen using a service thats not US based does not suddenly give you special powers to then allow the SEC to overstep their jurisdiction. its like if you travel to china and got in trouble. its the chinese government that would be handling you. yes you can speak to the US consulate all you like. but their powers are limited of what they can actually do. you would be stuck at the wil of the chinese government.

the end result is the service could just be requested nicely to do something to stop allowing US citizens access or simply ask you to stop using the service yourself.

if you have a problem with a chines exchange. take your funds out and use an US exchange. then if the US exchange appears to have the same issues as you are concerned with then that exchange would be within your US jurisdiction.

lastly when looking at the exchange orderbook. the order book is just a BTC amount. it has no names or faces or nationality listed. so although you may presume the large wall orders are from manipulative asian traders or ghost orders of the exchange itself. but you actually do not know.
its the same emotional reaction of a school shooting news report. many americans very first though is 'is it a middle eastern terrorist' and for days they whisper concerns and worries. but later find out it wasnt.

without you knowing the culprit you have no culprit
simply saying that your couple BTC is acceptable but no one should be trading 500btc at a time is the same as someone trading 0.05btc and complaining that 2btc is too much

it is emotionally like a homeless man with $2 complaining at someone taking $500 out of an ATM. blaming the guy at the ATM for having so much money.
its a useless mindset to have. so here is a solution, ill repeat it again

take your funds out a foreign exchange and use an US exchange instead.
then if the US exchange appears to have the same issues as you are concerned with then find out the actual culprit and link it to an actual crime. do not speculate as to who you wish/hope/think it is. actually try finding the culprit
then, with that US exchange being within your jurisdiction the SEC can do something about it. but remember. there has to be a culprit.
you cant simply ask a company to shut down because you dont like the experience you received. they can try to improve their service to make users experience better, but they can also stop serving just the vindictive, abusive customers. so dont simply pretend you have the power to shut down an exchange simply because you had a bad experience.

think of it like a mass protest or a music concert. if someone spills your beer or a taller person stands infront of you. you do not have the authority to ask the whole concert to be shutdown. instead try to identify the tall beer spiller that you have problems with and deal with that individual(the whale order creator).
because trying to stop an exchange from allowing people to trade say 500btc wont happen
trying to get a concert to ban tall people wont happen.
and trying to stop an exchange from allowing users to cancel orders for change of mind/mistake reasons wont happen.
trying to make spilling beer or walking while holding a beer illegal wont happen

people should be free to make orders with their funds freely. but if you can prove a culprit and prove the crime. then deal with it
12623  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free energy is real on: December 08, 2019, 12:28:53 AM
topic creators first post is about kinetic energy. not perpetual. what you dont see is the kinetic energy runs out(slows down the spinning). the sample videos in the link were only a few seconds long each for obvious reasons

also the topic creators post just above about blowing on a fan to light a LED shows that the blower has to keep blowing to keep it active. the fan does not constantly spin.
the electric created for lighting an LED is not sufficient to power a fan to the same blow effect of the human long that powered the initial surge. thus output is less than input. so putting it into a closed circuit will slowly diminish until it stops.

many man people have thought that if a wind turbine can charge an electric car wheel to spin that replacing the 2 back wheels for 2 fans can then blow enough to blow 2 turbines to double charge.. but reality is the power of the air coming from the wheels wont equal the power initially from the original turbine thus again it diminishes until it cannot power itself any longer

perpetual motion/energy requires the output energy to exceed the input energy to ensure constant and infinite power. and sorry to burst anyones bubble but that just aint possible

people have tried for hundreds of years. and it just has not happened.
but good like trying to find answers on youtube/reddit rather than science

as for the topics title
energy is not free. there is always a cost. even time and exhaustion and requiring extra calories to fuel someones body for the time is a cost
12624  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 08, 2019, 12:09:15 AM
get on a plan and keep travelling in the same direction. you eventually loop around and come back to the point you started at without falling off an edge and without going into the infinite void of space

im starting to think flat earthers have never got out of their basement to even experience the real world and definetly not a plane ride
12625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 07, 2019, 10:15:26 PM

reading it carefully it could be read that passengers can request not being recorded.
meaning automatic recording but deletion if a reqeust is formally made

this means that data gathered would require a person then asking for it not to be kept.
if regulations become wordd as such i can see this being abused in many ways like making it so annoying to say no to face recog (like how annoying it is to say no to cookie/ad/data tracking on every website) that people end up just pushing accept rather than deselecting 50 tickboxes

a bit like how stupid browsers work that send a 'do not track' request. or them phone call services that suppose to stop business cold calling you...

yet you then find out data is still gathered, info is still passed around and then if found out years later they just say 'oopsie sorry, tell use the cost of the fine and we will pay it.. no harm done'

you know. the whole 'teenager has criminal records sealed and expunged at 18' .. yet years later gets told someone unsealed the records..
or them anonymous adoptions where social services still have the records but just say they cant disclose
hmmm... not quite a removal of record after all if someone was able to find it

only solution
have no cameras at airport check-in desk at all. or if there is a camera make it abundantly clear you dont want records kept, but still expect someone somewhere to still have that data
12626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 07, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Should we resign from all the gadgets because they are monitoring our activities? I don't think so.

should we hack/jailbreak tech and allow ourselves to use whatever open source apps we would actually prefer on the device? yep

kind of like should we just resign from bitcoin coz core centralised the decisions.
or should we keep trying to hold them accountable to their actions and try preventing them sliding in changes that take people off the network without consent(consensus)
12627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 06:50:27 PM
stay inside your 4 corner box of freeman whitterings.

by you calling it four corner shows your just referencing freeman rhetoric yet again
its called contract law in the real world and its you that needs to research it because then you will see where your failings are..

oh wait i told you many posts ago to research contract law independantly away from the freeman crap
and here you are responding using the freeman buzzwords
seems you resorted to having to research the freemans mis-interpretations yet again

to respond to below
badecker is the one copy and pasting and using the terms and linking the links of freeman cult.. no on else is
everyone else is trying to correct backecker but badecker refuses to realise that he is the one that should do the research beyond the cult
its like telling a scientologist to wake up to the cult and the scientologist accuses the rest of the world of being scientologists
12628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 06:45:12 PM
im correcting the legal context. but all you can scrape the bottom of the barrel of responses, is over is my grammar.
my point is made

to respond to below badecker is in such denial about how wrong he is that he has resorted to being a grammar nazi
he has either become ignorant of his failing or realised his mistakes but doesnt want to admit he failed.
kind of petty
12629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 06:40:41 PM
I believe I already addressed those very things in this very thread.  She does not get paid.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204459.msg53279951#msg53279951
   I'm done here.

but you skipped the book deals and the 5 day paid holidays curtesy of Ted Talks and such
and yes her mother does get income from the books before you even consider denying it. not every penny goes to charity
only the POSSIBLE excess 'profit' after taking their 'costs' (trips around the world and food and accommodation)

in short she is not self funding from savings she/family accumilated prior to 2018. she is funded by book deals and conferences after 2018
and she is not actually striking as sh gets school permission and does stuff on school breaks

yet she wants other kids to strike against schools wishes(facepalm)
12630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 06:30:17 PM
Doesn't mean she's not getting paid.
  Do you have evidence that she is being paid?  Don't hold out on us.

Ted Talks:
Quote
We do, of course, cover travel costs and provide excellent hotel accommodation
...
Other benefits include pre-conference coaching and training,
gretas facebook: Feb 11th
Quote
My family has written a book together about our family and how me and my sister Beata have influenced my parents way of thinking and seeing the world, especially when it comes to the climate. And about our diagnoses.
That book was due to be released in May. But since there was a major disagreement with the book company, we ended up changing to a new publisher and so the book was released in august instead.
...
Furthermore I only travel with permission from my school and my parents pay for tickets and accommodations.
book income .. oh and hmm striking from school.. wait.. she said sh got permission from school
oh and her summer 2018 strike.. yep school holidays.meaning no school anyway

.. and as my point illustrated she also in her facebook post said climate change is black and white. emissions reductions is the black and white solution

.. sorry but its more complex than that
12631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
lets pretend that you finally woke up to the freeman cult and instead diverted to constitutional law and common law(the real stuff)

constitutional law and civil law and common law of countries applies to its citizens. meaning by you trying to say you follow the constitution and want all your constitutional rights. means you are the same slave to the constitution

have a nice day

its the difference between
knowing you bodies physical capability to walk.
vs
demanding your 'right to travel'
by you demanding your right under law puts you in the same box you call slavery

There you go again, spouting freeman stuff. Why are you so hung up on it? I mean, don't tell me. But at least you said it clearly enough that you might be off your booze for a moment.

Cool

your the one spouting it in many topics. im correcting your rhetoric.
12632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 05:48:59 PM
lets pretend that you finally woke up to the freeman cult and instead diverted to constitutional law and common law(the real stuff)

constitutional law and civil law and common law of countries applies to its citizens. meaning by you trying to say you follow the constitution and want all your constitutional rights. means you are the same slave to the constitution

its the difference between
knowing you bodies physical capability to walk.
vs
demanding your 'right to travel'
by you demanding your right under law puts you in the same box you call slavery

if you really wanted to go against the laws and be independant from civilisation well your only way would be to go to a country without laws.
being an idiot and pretending laws dont apply to you because you declare your a new undocumented pronoun does not mean you have no responibilities or consequences in a country with laws.
you are just in olden times considered an outlaw or modern times a criminal for breaking the rules of law.
and no pretending your a pink dress wearing fairy that rides a mechanical bull will get you out of the consequences of braking the law.

so if you want to be a free man. find a deserted lawless island

have a nice day
or understand the real law. and use it to your benefit by learning what is allowed and not allowed and staying out of trouble
12633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 05:39:47 PM
funny how you cant counter my points so just become a grammar nazi, typical response

your ignorant
spend your wasted time doing research, no need to keep replying with defending your ignorance
have a good day
12634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Satoshi steal other people's ideas for Bitcoin and one reason why he left? on: December 07, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
Satoshi developed Bitcoin and Blockchain technology without reading any papers of those people what you have mentioned. After he developed the Bitcoin system he was wondering if any one thinking to create e-cash. so search on the Internet and found few articles but not was not very good. Nothing impressed him. He cited Wei Dai and Adam back in White Paper just to let the Cypherpunks know that it not not just a new thing. He even did not bother to say anything about the Bitgold of Nick because it has another story how nick got it from Satoshi. B Money of Wei Dai was not fully explained anything about E-Cash System. It was very poor. But He consider his paper because of Wei Dai was an educated Cryptographer. Craig Wright claimed now that Satoshi plagiarized  his paper which has another story. Every thing will be explained by Satoshi himself soon.

seriously your just fooling yourself

the real satoshi was part of the cypherpunks group before inventing bitcoin. he referenced wei dai and others because he used their ideas and patchworked them together into an impressive thing.

he contacted them and attributed their efforts. he did not steal he did not pre invent and then research others that came close
he simply used different idea's in a new combined way

satoshi disapeared because he became aware that he was becoming a central figure which was going against the whole decentralised idea bitcoin was meant to be. he didnt want the power or the control.

many people mis-took his messages about not wanting to review every persons individual codebases as a stupid wording to mean there should only be one codebase everyone follows. instead he was trying to not be the main go-to guy(central point)
yet here we are with one codebase and flocks of blind followers just trusting one brand. and treating any other de team as an enemy.. when infact having just one decision making brand should be treated as the enemy to decentralisation
12635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 04:57:27 PM
What you state above ("*scientific consensus was that smoking was healthy for people.") has NEVER been true.  You must be confusing false advertising with science

 “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.”

 Since the early 1950's, the consensus has been that cigarette smoking leads to fatal illness but due to almighty profit, cigarette companies waged an offensive against the scientific community and the unsuspecting smoker.  
 Tobacco was introduced to Europe from the "New World" in the late 16th century and by the early 17th century (1602 I believe), Dr Eleazar Duncon penned a letter about the ill-effects of smoking tobacco.  There are many reports from the 17th and 18th century linking smoking to ill health as well.

 Where on earth did you find that little nugget of untruth?


your example is perfect.
a few minds say smoking is bad but large public consensus thought smoking was good by enlisting alot of doctors who attributed their names to limited science and so public opinion..
because more were swayed to the limited science reports than the few minds that have been saying its bad

and thats how cigarettes became ok in governments eyes
it wasnt until decades later people started to wis up
we are still stuck in the 'more doctors smoke camel' era metaphorically

carbon dioxide is a concern for human health but water is a concern for climate.
its like when people talk about climate change then go on a tangeant about microbeads poisoning fish.
carbon is the microbead in that analogy

its far easier to handle the water cycle to cause more of a climate impact than carbon
and then separately handle carbon for the human health impact.

but yea. the argument will go on about 'things need to change' but years later after report and report are made all thats changed is the number of reports and debates.
untill the UN can actually start to come up with hard rules of tree's per populus area and water usage per farm and % of land permitted to be used. things wont change

some countries are already trying to make their couple decade old national strategies for other things appear as 'climate change' strategies to then pretend they are promoting climate change

some have said the whole 'farming quota' of the EU which sole purpose was to not have a food over supply (cheap food) are now making it a 'climate change' purpose. just to tick a fake box that they done something. although nothing really changed

because the whole finger pointing is just 'show you done "something" in a report' not actually 'do X'

take london. instead of actually cutting down on car manufacturing they just closed off traffic in certain area's whereby the closed off area becomes carbon reduced. but the result is more carbon on the other roads that have become more jammed up due to diversions which is not a combined net reduction. just a move it away from certain sensors to fake positive results
12636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health tips people need to know on: December 07, 2019, 03:20:09 PM
There is a grand total of zero evidence to show that GMOs are in anyway harmful or that organic food is anyway more healthy.

All evidence shows that recommended levels of aspartame, MSG, and fluoride are harmless.

fluoride is dangerous.
it messes with your thyroid and other things. its why they say dont swallow mouth wash and toothpaste

yes one rare mouthwash swallow may not cause much harm. but that is then used to say suddenly its fine to swallow often because a single swallow is not harmful

EG one portion contains X. company then makes a same gram tinned item become 2 portions that way each portion has X still but now they have twice as much X in the same gram tin as before just changing the 'portion' size

its like chocolate having refined sugar. instead of reducing sugar per bar. they reduce the chocolates bar size.
and then ofcourse people then just end up buying multipacks because bitesize just aint enough anymore

have you ever seen anyone just eat one stamp size cube of chocolate and say 'thats enough thats my daily allowance' and truly mean it and be happy about it, fully satisfied
12637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 07, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
I like technology and I don't mind if I'm being filmed by CCTV and scanned. Most people get upset and nervous when you take your phone and start filming them walking, but they don't understand they're being filmed all the time, just not as blatantly. It shows that as long as you don't see things you don't care, but once you realize it's happening it makes you more scared, paranoid even.


Technology always has some pros and cons. I'm a fan of smart homes and think that it's great that your house can sense you coming back and heat up the interior, switch the lights on, make you a coffee. Some people will be scared that what if the house locks you inside or starts telling the whole world where you are and what you're doing, but there's a risk in everything we're doing. You want self driving cars but you also don't want them to run people over or drive off a clif.

but the perception of CCTV is that the image data is purely used by police to monitor potential crimes. not to then be used to sell to amazon on peoples shopping habits.

having a geolocation app that communicates just to your home router and just activates the heating when in proximity has its uses. but then selling the geolocation data to show which petrol stations you fuel your car at or what shops you visited and finding out if you like the temperature real hot to advertise hot chilli meals and hot drinks or if you prefer the temperature cooler to advertise iced tea and and cold meals is just taking things too far into peoples privacy
12638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We all had our "accidents" in life, but..... on: December 07, 2019, 02:47:59 PM
The holy bible do make this very clear that “it is better each man should have his own wife”

such point does not limit:
men can stay single
   it said 'it is better' not 'it is required'..   so men can be single or be gay or other

men can have more than one wife
   it said 'his own wife' not 'only one wife' .. so men can have a wife and a husband.. or multiple wives
   if it was worded 'should have only on wife' then a man cant then have a house or a car or children as all he is allowed is a wife

also. the real 'holy bible' was not even written in modern english. so overall the 'holy bible' said none of that
12639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
firstly your not asking questions. your trying to make points. using references that have nothing to do with the points as many have informed you

secondly freeman rhetoric is not law or real. it is th same as where a cult mis-understands religion/science to form a group of people that believe in something that others dont. and yes cults are not the ones in the right.

your defense of the freeman stuff shows your still not seeing the flaws of it. you are still trying to find excuses to carry on thinking that you can lawfully drive on a public road without a driving licence or pretend your a corporation brand instead of a human to get out of court fines

just expand your eyes beyond the copy and paste crap of freeman and start to see the whole picture and maybe you will see the HOLE in the freeman picture

it is rather amusing to see cultists defend their stance to the death.
you talk about rights but avoid understanding the responsibilities and consequences that come with it

you title 'legal facts'  are not facts
many have told you this. so its time to wake yourself up

freeman stuff is not the plain meaning law nor is it the common law of common knowledge/common sense. freeman stuff is the mis-interpretation and trying to convince people that something means something else

sorry but your name is not a corporation
your name is an identifier of you. no matter if you identify yourself as a corporation a helicopter or a shemale. your name is still you. so you can play all the games you like. its still you

the whole freeman "person" stuff is about you can pretend your business is liable but your not by trying to detach yourself, you can pretend you go by different pronouns to escape the law

but you the human being known as whatever thing you present yourself as are still liable
so just stop pretending that your a corporation as thats not what the plain meaning/common law is.

i stiil laugh that one of your points was thinking there are no judges in courts.
12640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 01:45:30 PM
your the freman.
your the one using the words and rhetoric

you even lack researching what you copy and paste

try spending more time researching your crap and less time trying to convince others that freeman rhetoric is real
and then when you do wake up dont then start trying to say that others are freeman to hide your the freeman

because its like your trying to convince people that your a helicopter not a human.. when you realise your not a helicopter then trying to convince people that they are the helicopter and you are the only human...

your just spinning yourself into circles

dont waste your time on the freeman stuff. research tresspass and contracts and find your escape of where freeman rhetoric goes wrong
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