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12661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 01:22:04 PM
I actually don't like this chart since it shows that pretty much every time when there was an outsize move up, it was followed by almost the same %% move down, especially in the first half of the chart. Hopefully, we will be able to escape this here, I hope, or it would be brutal.

These sort of moves are unhealthy, especially without a proper base.  A slow grind up is the only way to sustain a move over the longer term.

Like I just said in my comment to lambie, above.  Bitcoin is not a mature market, and you cannot expect her to act like a mature market.  Therefore she is going to do outrageously unexpected things like this.  Part of the expected is that the unexpected is going to happen, especially towards the upside and especially since it is quite likely that we are within an exponential phase of s-curve adoption, which is part of the explanation - including increasing volatility like you suggested in both directions, but likely more often happening disproportionately to the upside.

Many posters will celebrate this sort of pump, only to have their hopes dashed again.

Only if you are either not prepared for it or you are not recognizing that there are way the fuck more UPs than DOWNs, especially if we zoom out a bit... and especially if we are able to ride these babies out for 3.5 years or better yet more than 5 years.

Of course, one should always look at the alternative : that this is the beginning of a long move up, but at this rate, that is a low probability.  A new exponential move that fails below 13500 would be very bearish.

You are likely right that we could get a bit of a disproportionate retrace, but who the fuck cares, ultimately we are going up, and I don't know why you want to attribute so much to $13,500, who cares about that?  Yeah maybe it will take a few more tries before we are able to pierce through $13,500, but in the end, we are going through $13,500 and likely $13,500 is going to be a blip in the rear view mirror on a road that is not revisited.


Only if 14k gets broken decisively, the outlook changes (with a new ath in sights)  That looks a very long way off atm.

Long way off as in 1 year?  That's fine.  We can deal with it.  Or long way off like 2-3 years?  That does not seem too likely.

Seems that once we are approaching 2 years, especially 2 years from right now, we are going to be long into ATHs and maybe even we might be at the end of this particular bull cycle by then.  Perhaps?  Perhaps?  Perhaps we might get a bit front runned this time, who knows?  Time will tell, and these little periods of overexcited and irrational exuberance surely shows both the power of king daddy and also that we are in early days and experiencing a bit of an underlying battle... that sometimes us mere mortal regular people just have to have enough ability and foresight to HODL through such tramas and maybe even figure out ways to skim a little profits off of the nearly inbred likelihood that we are going to have ongoing volatility including sometimes extreme short period outbursts.   

By the way, the "tramas" of the outrageous period of irrational exuberance are likely to be much easier to deal with, both psychologically and financially, if you construct a kind of systematic way to attempt to take some advantage of what is already kind of expected... (which is expecting a bit of the unexpected... that has become bitcoin over its whole life time, essentially and yesterday was a bit of an extreme because bitcoin's volatility is generally seeming to go down, but surely yesterday shows that she is still easily and "normally" capable of such immature and irrational extremes).
12662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 12:49:11 PM
Jeeeeeesus Christ! What did happen during the night?!?!?!? From 7400 to 10 350 on Bitstamp (10 540 on coinbase)!!! This is  the greatest pump in less than 12 hours in the history of Bitcoin (at least for the last years). Back to bed now (fingers crossed for 15K after I wake up). LOL

This is just the beginning!
With so much fiat printed everyday the direction is crystal clear!

Do you mean, becoin, that 1) some of that excess printed fiat is going to trickle into bitcoin or 2) that the excess printing of fiat is just inevitably going to cause the unwanted side effect of pumpening the more sound money, aka king daddy?
12663  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 12:47:17 PM
This pamp is breathtaking but where is the big volume? I think the last two days must have set a record for biggest pump with lowest volume.

Are we supposed to think its just a coincidence and has nothing to do with Tether execs freaking out about their arrests being imminent?


Roach!!!!!!!!!!  You sneaky fuck!!!!!


GIVE LAMBIE HIS ACCOUNT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!


 Angry Angry Angry

LOL, Roach is too low IQ to ever access my account, its me I assure you, Im just surprised I was so close to the range I wanted to deploy my last fiat stash but never saw the big volume.

This is unprecedented for Bitcoin to have such a large fast pump with volume this low and that makes it worth asking some questions.

I doubt that the mere fact that bitcoin is NOT following some kind of expected pattern should be enough reason to outrightly jump to attributing that to foul play.  Bitcoin is filled with periods of both pumpening and dumpenings that don't follow patterns, even if after the fact various explanations (and sometimes oversimplified ones) are attributed to such events.

There are so many examples that it might even be the rule rather than the exception.  Do you really believe that there is any reasonable explanation for bitcoin's 3.5x price appreciation within 3 months starting on April 1 - beyond pure momentum and the fact that such snowballing of sentiment can be accomplished out of the blue?

The same with our yesterday's apparent 3rd place all time daily price appreciation of 42%.  Sometimes there can be momentum that gets out of control and there might be one or there might be a group that just happens to be on the same page, and it ends up being a so fucking what in terms of just part of the realm of things that can happen in a relatively immature market that is surely within a kind of s-curve exponential phase that might NOT be so easily to know while we are in it, but might become more apparent when we zoom out retrospectively - even when we look back 5 years from now, the explanations might become more apparent, including the mere fact that we remain in early adoption phases, and therefore patterns that might apply to a much more mature asset sometimes are not going to fit so well with our beloved king daddy.   Wink   Tongue 

I hope you did not get reckt too badly in your lambie imitating roach phase...  or maybe quasi-secretly I do? especially if you had been spouting out too heavily on the bear talking points or even giving too much credence to unsubstantiated seemingly FUD spreading talking points.   Shocked
12664  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 06:33:32 AM
This pamp is breathtaking but where is the big volume? I think the last two days must have set a record for biggest pump with lowest volume.

Are we supposed to think its just a coincidence and has nothing to do with Tether execs freaking out about their arrests being imminent?


Roach!!!!!!!!!!  You sneaky fuck!!!!!


GIVE LAMBIE HIS ACCOUNT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!


 Angry Angry Angry
12665  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 06:25:09 AM
I'm used to be ignored. I was expelled from my country, i mean from the bigest crypto prediction thread in my country because i said that btc will bottom between 3.100 and 3.200 usd (it's still written on that site) and after it really bottomed there i was pissed off because nobody cared and i talked about this many times.
So they threw me out but after some time at crucial btc times they asked me to come back just to tell my btc price opinion.

I thought that you used to be a fairly decent fellow, and sufficiently easy enough to get along with.

You must have fallen on your head during your absence, and now you are obsessed with how supposedly wonderful you have become (and thinking that you have always been so wonderful   Roll Eyes   Roll Eyes  )  Go figure.   Tongue



So they threw me out...

How do I give them merit?

You can't but i can give you merit, because you are one example for my theory that majority of people are like that, no matter which country or forum.
They also have thread about btc price prediction but they don't like if you are talking too much about the charts and price. They rather have memes, jokes and other unimportant things which are not related to the price prediction. They kicked me out, which i had the most charts and price predictions. But they didn't kick out any trolls. They rather have a good laugh with a bad trades than a serious thread.


Every thread needs someone as wonderful, competent, on topic and always right, such as yourself.  If we were not sure, we should just ask you in order to get confirmation.  You are like medicine, and for our own good.  Cry
12666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 06:17:24 AM
Ive been in Bitcoin for 3 years.......this is the most stunning day I have ever seen.  When we went up to $20,000 it was definitely shocking but the bullish mindset was everywhere. When we had that april green candle earlier this year, that was a surprise to but the bottom was in. When people woke up today, everyone was bearish and pessimistic, everythings changed now; Bull market is still on

Up nearly $3k in a day (trough to peak maybe $2,900 in 10 hours) is quite amazing, even if it is coming near to retracing back $1k (retrace of about $750 so far).    Shocked Shocked
12667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 05:54:00 AM
orangecoin number go up



party tonight

Missing Lambo?
12668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 05:46:08 AM

OR, they are holding and reeducating muslim terrorists and potential terrorists to safeguard the people.
Unlike the western democracies who cuddle them and let them in to their countries so they can commit terrorist acts against us.

This right here is why I fear the European nationalist movements are doomed to fail; Their ideas are pretty good, but their marketing is abysmal.

It's pathetic, like hurling obscenities at an idealistic little girl.  How can you not see that you are not helping your cause?

I'll help with the marketing:


Looks like a gold digger. Western women are literally insane. It will need a hard reset for things to get better.

So, you would kick her out of bed for eating crackers, then?
12669  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 05:44:13 AM
Death cross is coming they said.... 3K is inevitable they said....   Grin Cool

Yeah, FUCK! I was lurred into going into a rather small but (for me) still noteable short this morning with the intent to pay some bills without losing much on my corn stack - got home a few minutes ago after driving psycomissus and psycomom around just to notice that I was fully rekt the one single day I was not starring at the charts non-stop like a complete psyco... (I really enjoyed the chart-less time until the moment I saw what happened today, was honestly anticipating some sideways downtrending).

I guess I have invented the absolutely best indicator available: The PGSI (Psycodad Goes Short Indicator). It never failed on me yet I tell you! Whenever I go short in a desperate attempt to pay some bills, this is what happens. No I don't get stopped out with minor losses, I get always truely rekt. I currently feel like GameKyuubi, except that the missus is not in a lesbian bar tonite (yet).

Oh well, better HODL on I guess. I try now to waste again the same amount on drinking insane amounts of booze and hope that tomorrow I won't remember neither of my two very bad decisions from today...

Something is probably wrong with me, when I feel uncomfortable with such big green dildos while still hodling most of my Bitchcoin.

Hell, women are pretty easy to understand compared to the BiTCh that she is at times.

P.S.: Do not expect another leg up in foreseeable timespan as I am completely done with shorts for the moment.

P.P.S.: Just ignore my ramblings, I am already too friggin drunk to be taken nearly serious. After all it has been a very nice recovery bounce today.

If all of this is true, hopefully you learned some kind of lesson from this, including not shorting bitcoin in a bull market, even if she is approaching nearly a 50% correction and the majority is saying that she is going down at least another 20% blah blah blah...
12670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 05:37:49 AM
Guys, don't get traped on your emotions. Traders don't do that. Whales use noob's emotions to trick them into fomo or panic sell. When we were higher at 12k and 11k many of you wanted 8k but when it droped to 8k suddenly almost no one wanted to buy anymore. I tried to warn you. I said at 7.4 you got your gift, a buying opportunity that you wished for. But instead many users talked about shorting and bearish things. And now after this pump many of you got emotional again.  

Why so patronizing and even presumptive SuperTA?  Many of us have been here a whole lot longer than you.

We are not kids here, even if we like to have fun sometimes.

Helrow?

Most of us here know what the fuck what we are doing.

Mostly the theme is to Buy and HODL.... and maybe dicker around with some other thingie ma jiggies, here and there, but buy and hodl are the staple foods.
12671  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2019, 04:00:01 AM
Are we allowed to discuss EtHeReUm in here?



ONLY if you are bashing on it, which largely seems to be what you were attempting to do above.

 Wink
12672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 04:53:40 AM
As I am not a programmer nor expert in crypto, I have arrived at HODLing some 1% (of my net), the minimum that JJG suggests above.  1% is probably close to what I understand BTC to be.  Risks and rewards are both high.  1% is the right amount for me in that if BTC price craters, it changes very little for me.  If it climbs to a nice ATH, well great!  

If you're only willing to put 1% of your money in something, it's definitely not an 'investment'.  A high risk, pump and dump scam maybe, but only willing to risk 1% is not an investment.  To me the word investment implies you actually have confidence in what you're purchasing, and 1% is not confidence.  That would be gambling, not investing (from the relative viewpoint of the individual).

I mostly agree with this. A 1% allocation would've been reasonable pre-2016 or so, when bitcoin was still a possible black swan event in the making, or possibly a flash in the pan.

Since we're making recommendations here, I'll recommend everyone has 40%+ of their net worth in bitcoin. Go big or go home.

Whoaza!!!!!  That makes hardly no sense.    We have masses and masses of peeps who have 0% in bitcoin.  We don't go from o0% to 40%, it is just not reasonable for regular peeps.  Gotta get many peeps off of 0% first before getting to 40%.... in other words, gotta walk before running, and surely you are probably attempting to address those who are already walking, but that is not reflective of the real world of peeps who are mostly not even walking.
12673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 04:33:39 AM
So, i want to make a warning here:

from the today analysis of charting pattern im saying we will see 3k again. In 5 hour from now BTC will fall below the 7400 range in the way of 4-3k range. I am professional trader here and you can reach me anytime here on DM.

From here we can see a rise within 6-8 month or 2021 LATEST from the BTC fallout. 3k can sustain for many month again.

You sound very professional.

Almost makes me want to sell and buy back at $3k, maybe go on a vacation for a few months and come back in May or June to buy at $3k-ish.
12674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 04:28:42 AM
Quantum thingy....

"Our machine performed the target computation in 200 seconds, and from measurements in our experiment we determined that it would take the world's fastest supercomputer 10,000 years to produce a similar output," Google researchers said
All lies. It's just modern propaganda to scare the masses. There is no such thing as QC.

Why Bitcoin holders are too much nervous ..

You tell them anything and they start dumping  Sad

That is one thing that is a bit different about bitcoin holders.  There are a decently large amount of them that are NOT going to dump.... and so the market has to adapt to such real bitcoin HODLer dynamic.  Sucks to be filled up too much with hopium, and I hope that you are NOT waiting for sub $2k because you are likely NOT going to be fulfilled.  You might not even be able to achieve sub $6.5k.
12675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 03:51:32 AM
Freshly saved 500 euro on its way to the exchange. To be honest, I am kind of surprised that bears tried to break the 7700 support. I don't get it why we should feel desperate with 2% drop below this support. If it is not comfirmed in the coming weeks, then all this was noise. Most TA won't even consider it as broken if it is cancelled soon. Now the support down to 7K has increased to 2700BTC in Bitstamp. This is enough to despair even the best bear manipulator in the world. It is like a street with a dead end, dear bears! You may try to break it, but the result will be broken heads  Grin The volume is low, meaning that besides the usual trades nobody is in a hurry to sell. And this is a sign of the failure of the bears, who thought with the sell of 700BTC on one exchange can bring havoc and despair. You have no good or bad news, dear bears, so your fail will be epic. 8K coming in 2 weeks. 10K and above in the coming months.  Wink Cheers to the hodlers!


hahahaha

That's an interesting perspective.

I hope that you are correct.
12676  Other / Meta / Re: fillippone Merit Source Application on: October 25, 2019, 03:28:55 AM
Your merits speaks for you, you're a legendary member by merit, but still hindered by activity, it is enough to tell about how good a poster you actually are, and enough criteria to qualify you to be a merit source.

I have come across your posts most times on the forum and I must say they are more often than not very good.
I love it when one applies to be a merit source, it shows dedication and zeal to make the forum grow, and to rank others through that process. I hope theymos acts on this, even if not now, later.

Agreed.  Fillippone goes above and beyond duty whether in the WO thread or outside of the WO thread, including the creation of many good topics, brings up a lot of good points, and seems to research the contents of his posts fairly well, including following through and showing learning along the way, too, so Fillippone is highly qualified for such merit source status.
12677  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 03:00:04 AM
Well we all knew deep down that 7700 wasnt going to hold and when it broke it would get ugly. 

I did not know, either deep down on the inside or otherwise.

I was waiting to see if massive buying (large volume similar to the peak of the mini bubble this summer) occurred once we had a large crash like yesterday, and sadly we didnt get the requisite volume for me to deploy my last fiat stash.

The really strong support is at 6500 so hopefully the Bargain Boyz will step in and load their trucks with massive volume at that level and end this mini bear market inside our bull market that started in Dec. 2018, because this so far has been a dud and the true Bargain Boyz have not arrived yet.

They haven't come yet?  Shit.

A 6500 dollar bottom would still be extremely bullish as we were in the 3-4k range earlier this year.

I agree that $6,500 would not be low enough to knock us out of our current bull market, unless such price levels were to drag out for a very long time, maybe a year or longer?


That is where the true run to 100k starts imo and hopefully it happens sooner than later so we can be done with this mess created by the overzealous parabolic run this summer.

You are kind of gloating, lambie.  I can sense it.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
12678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 02:14:39 AM
^^
I just don't believe or have to much faith in TA's they are like a newspaper fun to read and look at but +90% bullsh*t .....



Some hopium charts nice and cool, some bear charts look ugly as hell.... but for me its just HODL and believe that i'm doing the right thing as i'm been doing it for a few years... I have to admit that I don't have to much to regret so the TA's guys are happy, i'm happy everybody happy Cheesy


TA is everythieng in this game. so you must pay attention on it.

3k BTC WILL COME any day here

3k is not scary... you should try harder... why not 1k?  Grin

$3k would scare me, and I might even start to get a bit scared if we start to get close to $5k.

Call me a pussy.



hahahaha


No, don't.
12679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 02:11:19 AM
Where is JJGI, JayJuanGee Indicator, in the chart. when he is a real man, BTC is at the bottom. When he switch to a kind bot, bull market. angry bot, bear market. It is the best indicator for TA.

Huh?  I don't change.  I buy BTC if the price goes down and I sell if the BTC price goes up. 

How could that kind of behavior be any kind of indicator of anything... it is largely BTC price neutral, except that I frequently will respond to dumbass troll/shills, like rebal15, so perhaps my increases or decreases in responding to dumbass troll/shills, like rebal15, could be an indication that more or fewer troll/shills, like rebal15, are out and about and gloating?
12680  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2019, 02:02:55 AM
Instead of getting margin called.

Have small amount of stops before the margin call. Your margin call price will get lower and have a stop before that call. (cross leverage)

Your position will be underwater and need a price above your oginal entry but better than losing it all.

Hopium is only above $9000

Adding to your longs isn't a good idea in this scenario.

Try to stay alive


Everything under $9k is a potential bull trap.

Above $9k and you have to analyze the market & adjust your stops.

Reduce or add but with multiple stops



As much as bitcoin may look like a buy, upside momentum is still zero.

Worse than zero.

Negative zero.

Momentum is bearish.

You are right!!!!!

Probably a good time to short.
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