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1281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nicehash Coming back online December 20 2017 ( Tomorrow ) on: December 20, 2017, 03:57:41 PM
Actually,  Ben and I are two different people.  I just admire his wisdom a lot.  I have no vested interest in NH.  I do enjoy making fun of people for using their service in my spare time though.

Sure difficulty went down, but it's up again over the past few days and that certainly wasn't the result of NH coming back online, because they are not back online yet.  In other news.  The value of the specific coin that I'm thinking of has increased by approx 75% over the past two weeks.  I'm sure that has a bit to do with the increase in difficulty that I have been seeing over the past few days.
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nicehash Coming back online December 20 2017 ( Tomorrow ) on: December 20, 2017, 03:04:20 PM
Hoping it crashes or gets delayed for a few more days.  The increase in profits has been amazing and cut my ROI down by almost two months. Hopefully not many people flock back to them.

You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
1283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Looking for super low brow shopping list... on: December 20, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
Wowsers!  What will you plug all of those components into?  Don't forget, your OS cannot be stored in RAM.
1284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Profitable these days? on: December 20, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
GPU's don't come equipped with odometers.
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Profitable these days? on: December 20, 2017, 02:05:41 PM
Yeah, mining is profitable again, but always be careful, things can change in just few days, dont invest what you are not prepared to loose.
1070 is one of the best cards in the market, go mine Equihash coins and you will be fine.

You don't lose your hardware if mining temporarily or permanently becomes unprofitable.
1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt on: December 20, 2017, 01:15:57 PM
Good to know.  I have some EVGA FTW2 1070ti's coming on Friday ... (Hopefully) ... They are supposed to ship today.  I had some ZOTAC's on backorder and ended up cancelling those.  This will be my first NVIDIA rig build.
1287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Profitable these days? on: December 20, 2017, 01:11:38 PM
Yesterday I talked with the person who is engaged in mining. He bought equipment for 3000 drolars. A month receives about 0.6 ethereum. I do not know whether this is profitable or not ....

Lol ... You're nuts dude.
1288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Whattomine.com on: December 20, 2017, 01:10:07 PM
Why isn't there an option for the AMD Vega 56 and 64's on whattomine.com?

But there is... I guess they updated it now.

Yeah I noticed they added it when I looked the other day.  They must have taken the hint ... Lol.
1289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need Help - Looking for 240v Power Surge Protection on: December 20, 2017, 04:31:36 AM
I mean, for fucks sake ... I told you earlier that I'm not an electrician. 
Apparently you want to be brainwashed.  Soundbyte answers are for brainwashing.  High school graduates are supposed to know better.

Required is basic electrical knowledge as learned by high school graduates.  You are expected to remember science concepts such as what Ben Franklin demonstrated over 250 years ago.  And what was taught about electricity in elementary school science.

Numbers require more knowledge.  Joules requires high school science.

Nothing new is understood until after three or more rereads.   Apparently you only read once - and then entertain anger.

Obviously said a 'whole house' solution is best protection. Apparently you want to argue rather than read.  That best solution also costs tens of times less - about $1 per protected appliance  What makes an protector effective?  That low impedance (ie less than 10 foot) connection to earth.  One need not be an electrician to understand 10 feet.  That does not mean 5 pairs of shoes. But those who post profanity often have comprehension problems.  Read without that emotion and profanity.

Everything has been explained. Nobody is going to spoon feed you.  Keep rereading until you finally get it.


I was never angry.  I just like to say fuck in pretty much every other sentence that I type.  I love the word fuck.  Sorry for your inconvenience.  You are just misleading in your wording.  First you say one thing, but it doesn't apply to another.  That is the confusing part and that is what will make someone angry.  And I did re-read your thesis statement, but it was at such a high level, I didn't understand it the first few times.  Most people with a high level of knowledge in anything are mentally retarded in a legal aspect.

Ten feet is nothing!  50 meters is a lot!  Be clear (on the subject) and move on, unless you enjoy acting retarded. 

I think you've pretty much wasted alot of our time here.  Didn't need a super-micro or super-macro analysis on the subject.
1290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Whattomine.com on: December 20, 2017, 04:02:04 AM
Please understand that if you are new and your hashes don't add "value", they won't count.  The pool just takes them.  You should probably just invest in the next inflatable donut.
1291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Whattomine.com on: December 20, 2017, 03:59:55 AM
As they said
Likely not enough options to make it worth while

Idiots.
1292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need Help - Looking for 240v Power Surge Protection on: December 20, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
I mean, for fucks sake ... I told you earlier that I'm not an electrician.  I just want an explanation in a couple of paragraphs that a normal person can understand.  I realize that you have a very high level of knowledge on the subject, but you didn't always have that high level of knowledge.  You started somewhere, so speak as if you were teaching someone with a basic level of knowledge.
1293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need Help - Looking for 240v Power Surge Protection on: December 20, 2017, 02:15:31 AM
So bascially those whole house surge protectors that they sell at Lowe's and Home Depot aren't worth the money that you would spend on them because they only protect the breaker/fuse box?
It cannot protect a breaker/fuse box.  It is too close.  Best protection (ie found in every Telco switching center) is up to 50 meters distant from electronics.  Separation increases protection (as defined by a concept called impedance).

A scam is easy to promote.  If a protector is adjacent, then it is effective.  Reality.  A protector too close to appliances and too far from earth ground is least (ineffective) protection.  It can even compromise what is better protection already inside every appliance.

By dismissing what was only speculation, now reread why a properly earthed solution is effective.  Why protectors do not do protection.  And why a protector is only as effective as its earth ground.  Only then does one have an answer to this question.  Where do hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate?


I think I understand ... A whole house surge protector cannot protect a fuse/breaker box because it's too close to it's earth ground?  I mean, mine is in my garage on the first floor of my house, so it's approx 5 feet from ground earth.  

But a whole house surge protector is far away from my miners on the second floor, so it would provide better protection to my electronics than a PDU, due to distance from earth ground?

I'm still trying to understand.  Now you're saying that no additional protection is necessary?  Everything should have the proper protection built in with the exception of protection against an anomaly which may happen every seven years?
1294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need Help - Looking for 240v Power Surge Protection on: December 20, 2017, 02:10:40 AM
So bascially those whole house surge protectors that they sell at Lowe's and Home Depot aren't worth the money that you would spend on them because they only protect the breaker/fuse box?
It cannot protect a breaker/fuse box.  It is too close.  Best protection (ie found in every Telco switching center) is up to 50 meters distant from electronics.  Separation increases protection (as defined by a concept called impedance).

A scam is easy to promote.  If a protector is adjacent, then it is effective.  Reality.  A protector too close to appliances and too far from earth ground is least (ineffective) protection.  It can even compromise what is better protection already inside every appliance.

By dismissing what was only speculation, now reread why a properly earthed solution is effective.  Why protectors do not do protection.  And why a protector is only as effective as its earth ground.  Only then does one have an answer to this question.  Where do hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate?


I think I understand ... A whole house surge protector cannot protect a fuse/breaker box because it's too close to it's earth ground?  I mean, mine is in my garage on the first floor of my house, so it's approx 5 feet from ground earth.  

But a whole house surge protector is far away from my miners on the second floor, so it would provide better protection to my electronics than a PDU, due to distance from earth ground?
1295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need Help - Looking for 240v Power Surge Protection on: December 20, 2017, 01:58:18 AM
Your power supplies should be all the protection you ever need. I would hope with that many rigs you are running quality PSUs and not some ATX garbage to power them. I have managed multi-megawatt facilities and surge protection was never even brought up as an issue even on unregulated power.

Hereeeeeeeeeeeee comes OVERKILL. Lol ... Are you insane dude?  You may be a genius level electrical engineer, but you know absolutely nothing about risk vs. cost effectiveness analysis for small scale operations.  Surge protection is a huge concern for electronics in the typical home environment.
1296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need Help - Looking for 240v Power Surge Protection on: December 20, 2017, 01:46:58 AM
So bascially those whole house surge protectors that they sell at Lowe's and Home Depot aren't worth the money that you would spend on them because they only protect the breaker/fuse box? Because nothing is protected unless the device you are protecting is plugged directly into the protector?  I'm not an electrician, but I would think that it adds another layer of protection.  Am I wrong?

To sum it all up ... No whole house surge protection is necessary, but you should use a PDU between the outlet and your miner, because the PDU will protect the miner directly?  Is that what you are saying?  I still don't completely understand why having both a pdu for your rigs and whole house surge protection isn't the optimal solution.
1297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Profitable these days? on: December 20, 2017, 01:30:08 AM
I can't see mining not being profitable for a long while yet.  People want coins but also the convenience of buying them, which is hard enough for the average new user in crypto.  Unless everything suddenly turns into POS, mining is safe for a good while yet.

Buying hardware to mine (with the exception of asic's) is always safer due to the secondary market.  There is no secondary market for asic hardware.
1298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Profitable these days? on: December 20, 2017, 01:28:29 AM
I can't see mining not being profitable for a long while yet.  People want coins but also the convenience of buying them, which is hard enough for the average new user in crypto.  Unless everything suddenly turns into POS, mining is safe for a good while yet.
I am still getting a lot of profit with Etherum because the price of Etherum is rising a lot while the difficulty remains. Etherum miners are earning high profits every day. You might consider switching to the big altcoin to conduct the extraction to get bigger profits.

The big altcoin or the second biggest as far as extracting goes.  I mean ... The second in line has 10% lower extraction fees from rondevu point to base, compared to the huge dick in the room.  Can't give it all away to the noobs, so you'll have to decrypt ... Lol.
1299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sol/s vs H/s on: December 19, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
H/s will be significantly higher than sol/s. For example, my 6x 1060 3gb rig gives around 3050 h/s and 1800 sols/s, or around 510 h/s and 300 sols/s per card.

you cant really compare H/s to Sol/s as this is a different algo and number based.
Good point, something like a vegas will have crazy high h/s

Just because a Vega has a crazy high hash rate mining Cryptonight, doesn't mean that a hash rate of half that from an NVIDIA TI card mining Cryptonight is not accurate.  You can call them sol/s or h/s or whatever the hell you want.  If you're comparing two cards within the same algo, you are getting an accurate comparison as far as the number goes.  Make your comparisons within the same algo and you'll be fine.
1300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt on: December 19, 2017, 09:15:02 PM
B&H Photo has been around for decades - I think I've bought electronics from them WAY back in the day.

 I keep forgetting they added computer hardware to their selection.

 Do they take Bitcoin?



I don't think they do.  I haven't noticed it as a payment option anywhere on their site.
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