L@@Ks like another exchange is going to pop early in the year and we need to learn our lessons and keep away from them and trade coins P2P and in the case of BTC also get away from using miners because they are ripping us off big time with fees
Maybe Segwit2x that forks in about one days time will do better and introduce that stops the miners from taking over using blackmail because something radical needs to because as it is BTC is locking up even when everyone is still on holiday
Steer clear of Coinbase because they scammed me out of the $10 joining bonus I was supposed to get if i spent over $100 so good luck trusting them with your millions because you are going to need it.
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I don't think that hard fork will affect Bitcoin. There are so much altcoins in the market. But nothing can touch Bitcoin. It's the king of the crypto world.
Wot you mean, like IBM were with computers in the late 1980's or AOL when the internet got started like ? The Segwit2x fork on the 28th of this month will allow me to once again sent $1.10 at a cost of $0.10 for the transaction fee and the money will arrive in seconds Sorry mate but the king has no clothes on and if you care to view the link below then you might start to see the Lightning might strike the king on his ding-a-ling if he does not care to cover up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g
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Many miners are upset about the fork because they know the jig is up where they charge $25-$50 just to process 250 bytes of data and it takes hours just to move digits from one wallet to another but the rest of us will be getting a late xmas present from this fork on the 28th Get you coins into a wallet were you own the public key if you don't want the likes of Coinbase to diddle you out of them and also note that the miners have started to lock up already so allow lots of time to move your BTC and it might be faster to send them using the snail mail postal system even at a time of year when most people are at home and not working The Lightning Network might take six moths to get working and forget about testing because BTC has had eight years of that and now look at the mess we are in but don't take my word for it and do some research and the link shown below is a good place to start. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_gGood video and explains it in plain English
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Nobody knows exactly who owns what coins from the first year. There were a number of other early adopters so this is basically stealing from all of them. Folks, do you really want to throw your support behind a coin whose devs pick and choose who to steal funds from? This is absolutely awful precedent, and this alone justifies throwing it out on the trash heap of worthless scamcoins.
No it is not steeling because it is a public block-chain and currently it is being abused by the miners so it's what you call pay-back and the only logical reason you could be upset is because you have been mining coins and the jig us about up. $25-$50 just to store 250 bytes of data in a public database is a joke and in any case we don't need 20,000 full nodes to process the transactions and the way it has been designed you end up slowing it down by adding more nodes but let them keep up the silly CPU wars but if you don't understand this statement then please ask and I will clarify what i mean.
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"BTC holders will receive, not only B2X in the ratio of 1:1, but also as a reward for your commitment to progress, the proportional number of Bitcoin of Satoshi Nakamoto who mined it in the first year of the network’s existence" does it mean that everyone who has bitcoin will get 1:1 b2x and even more bitcoin? and what about existing b2x on bitfinex (as bt2) and yobit? Yes 1:1 and maybe even a little bit more. B2X is trading is a bet on what the price will be and its price is at about 15:1 against BTC so your free gift by my understand is worth $7.50 for every $100 worth of BTC you own that is on the block-chain on the 28th at the time of the fork. I will if I can mine the new coin for free on release not because of the money but to give BTC miners two fingers for ripping us off but that's just me being a nice man because they owe me about $80 so far and i don't mind payment what ever way it comes.
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I just purchased more BTC just so that I will get a little more B2X for free from the fork on the 28th and see it as a late Christmas present myself but it cost me $25 in BTC sending my money from Coinbase to my Jaxx wallet so I know I will get them and i cannot wait to see B2X transaction fees of about $0.01 cents again.
where did you hear'd that b2x fees be $0.01 ? and im not familiar with the process, is jax wallet is the only way of getting it? Well I am guessing at the fees but if you go back to the start of the year then BTC fees were not much higher than that and Jaxx is a private wallet (You own the private key) and I really like it bit it has a security flaw that you can counter if you keep the wallet on it's own MicroSD card that you switch when not using. You will have to wait a month to get your coins but you will only get your share if the BTC coins you own are on the block-chain before the fork in a days time and you own the private key. Coinbase cannot be trusted to give them to you and a good example of this is Bitcoin gold, mine are locked up and i might never get them because Coinbase owned the key to my wallet on the last fork.
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I just purchased more BTC just so that I will get a little more B2X for free from the fork on the 28th and see it as a late Christmas present myself but it cost me $25 in BTC sending my money from Coinbase to my Jaxx wallet so I know I will get them and i cannot wait to see B2X transaction fees of about $0.01 cents again.
Me being a poor boy would like to make people here that don't like the new coin feel happy so please pledge to send your B2X to me now and I will wish you a happy new year (and mean it) and will also send you some good vibes plus I will even cover the super reasonable transaction costs
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Yes it is back but the people behind it are different. And it's a different code (the earlier was 2MB blocks and didn't even have replay protection). This new fork seems to have different mining algorithm too.
Anyway, free money is always welcome. I'll dump them as soon as I can.
Wot you mean like the CPU war created by BTC is not need or something and I hope it flops at first just like Bitcoin Cash because it won't crash it and I get to make a little money. Please, please remember to get your coins out from the likes of coinbase so that they are on the block-chain and you get cut in on the deal to ensure your evil little plan works because i would hate to see the likes of Coinbase holding on to them if the coins they have in the pool are not fake like I suspect. Happy new year my man
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It's possible to do batch transactions with Electrum, it's a desktop wallet. In Electrum, it's not enabled by default, you have to go to 'Tools' >> 'Pay to many' and you'll have to option to add multiple addresses or load them from a CSV file.
I have no idea which mobile wallets support this, if there are any.
Thanks quick question, what's a CSV file? Coma Separated Variables so the data looks like David,1234,aa6780 Paul,8765,bb3456
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Satoshi is the king with no clothes on and from a technical perspective he has created a monster that does not scale, generates inflation via forks and has allowed the minters to rip us off.
PoW is good for the profit of electrical supply organisation and the CPU wars he has started will only keep the likes of Intel nice and rich.
I have no time for him blowing his own trumpet if it is him and not his CIA/MOSSAD masters but for now enjoy because the tulip bubble still has more room to grow and do bear in mind a digital token is not a religion you know
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And I read one article saying it's coming mid-January. Which one is correct, if any?
I think they spit the block-chain on the 28th but it will take a few weeks to trade the coin because new flags in wallets will need to be used and the commercials will need to be set up with the exchanges so this is quite normal. Down the road they want to include ETH type contracts which might help generate revenue for those things that we call miners today (More colorful name from me) but to me it seems a bit of a fudge but we will see. B2X was at about $1000 so with BTC at $15,000 now you will get about $75.00 worth of free coins as an happy new year present which just now is about enough to cover just two transactions on the BTC network so you tell me who is robbing you
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Again, this is not the "real" SegWit2x. It's a morally ambiguous clone with a misappropriated name. Tread carefully.
Agree it's not the old Segwit team and given that they dropped out then you have to ask if they can be trusted anyway or were they brought off ? So they took the name and admitted this to me so in that respect they have been honest so did they just take the name to say we will finish the job that they started to give themselves a boot from the word go or it it one big scam and if it is a scam then what have we got to loose from the free coins because i say nothing and why should i remain loyal to BTC who has stuffed us all over on the transaction fees. As we speak the misses is buying more BTC just to get in on the fork and I might keep in BTC for a few more weeks but I was rushing and used Coinbase to buy and something tell me that i will get trouble when I send the coins to my Jaxx private wallet
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Once again. Is it gona be another shitcoinwith the described features or it is gona be the improvement for the bitcoin before the lightning network will be released? Everything with those forks / segwits is already a bit messed up in my head.
You are in desperate need of being nudged in the right direction when it comes to Lightning in a way that non programmers ans system designers can understand so please see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_gand then maybe we can have a debate and i say this with full respect
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Hello, our team is absolutely other (there are no members from the old team). The last team abandoned this project and our team decided to renew it. We are going to create a good product, be sure.
I was not expecting that answer at all but I will give you ten out of ten for being honest with us which half makes me want to join you but i suppose the real killer question is why did you pinch the name instead of using your own name. I wait in anticipation of your answer as I am sure many others will be doing because you can see why we are all a little confused. Work with me and I will work with you and FYI I have already contacted your team and did get a reply that i will deal with later when you not all being rushed off your feet.
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I haven't heard that on December 28 we are waiting for changes, but will be adopted segwit2x or not is not important. The main thing that such changes are necessary. In any case, in 2018, the price of a transaction should be reduced. Bitcoin should be a currency. The price and speed of transaction can not be higher than the banking system.
Seven transactions per second is a Micky Mouse program and is not in the same league as VISA who can do 25,000 a second and even that might be too small was BTC to live up to the design and do what it says on the box. "price of a transaction should be reduced" Lightning Network is not going to achieve this and leads to centralization using hubs that i am sure Coinbase would be very happy about so what makes you think you are right about this because if that happens then we might as well just stick with VISA anyway and it would be safer. I am not a gambler myself like most people here, i design systems and have no lover what so ever for the bankers but on the technical side I can tell you that BTC won't scale and that PoW is the bigest joke going and the joke is on you and the miners who are fighting a CPU war with each other and its a total waste of space and energy
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Fuck your petition.
This is not the original SegWit2x proposal. Not even close. Why would you even call it SegWit2x when it clearly involves a 4MB blocksize, along with all the other changes that weren't in the original fork? Not to mention, on top of every other highly dubious design decision, you're stealing coins from keys that don't belong to you on this chain as an incentive to distribute to other people? Introducing Satoshi's coins back into circulation. How is theft an incentive unless you're a criminal? It's a perversion of what Bitcoin was meant to be. GTFO, you don't belong here.
You could be right and this is why I asked how many members from the original Segwit team are involved with this fork on the 28th but you have to understand that propaganda and lies are flying off the shelf but no sooner had the old Seg team canceled the plan than we watched transaction fees go to the moon so maybe they said "We wanted out, fuck it we are getting out now" BTC has been taken over by the fat cat bankers, i need no debate with you about that and the Lightning Network is the cream on the cake See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2648868.new#newif someone is just steeling the block-chain like anyone can and pretending that had anything to do with the original development then I will join you and bring them down but so far I am not convinced so convince me if you can
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Is this legit? If yes, then what should we do? do we have to do some things like what we did on recent fork( it is last august i think) i have questions : what does fork do to bitcoin? Does it have an effect on bitcoin so forks are needed? please someone answer my question and enlighten me. on the 28th the BTC database is replicate, copy is taken so if you have BTC in the block-chain and on your own private wallet where you own the private keep then you have a right to get B2X in a few weeks time Do not let Coinbase deal with this for you because one you will have to wait a long time to get them if they even give them to you and don't run off with them themselves Hope this helps
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Hi friend and don't go running off again because I had to hold the fort for you in recent days and it would be better coming from you yourself. How many members from the old Segwit team are in the new Segwit2x team ? Seems like many people people "Bankers" are doing all they can to hide whats going on with this new fork and propaganda seems to be flying around like mad so can you please try to convince people that it's not just a copy of the old block-chain with a tweak to the code because anyone can do that to hijack what we already have.
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I see the slot machine boys now have crystal balls to see whats going to happen with the price and they are already planning on how they are going to spend it. BTC won't scale due to thee structure of the block-chain and this will need to be fixed long before we can talk about telephone number prices for BTC and just now the only thing that can save it is Lightning Network https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2648868.new#new
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Bitcoin mining is a disaster as is Pow and all it has done is to start a CPU army's race where you need to keep buying bigger and faster machine to compete in the race. Maybe if you have faith in Lightning then you should be setting yourself up as a hub but you might like to read my comments about this first. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2648868.0Miners will fulfill a much more useful roll but not as miners in a few years time because a train is heading our way but i cannot share much about this with you just now.
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