90 days!!!!!  wow, where did your money go?

From that drunken email, it sounded like it was in Asia loosely because of the Chinese New Year.  Something is really off about this change of events.  CNY for one only hampers shipments for 2-4 weeks depending on the firm.  Also, why did he not official announce who purchased the company? 

First off I want to tell you this is "pure" speculation.   I am reading about this mysterious change of ownership. 

What is they used the pre-order money to develop the die/chip and bitstream and the purposely tank the company to get people to cancel their orders and then the new company actually is just going to build units in China/Asia to mining themselves in the mention "hosted" center?  Besides the total lack of morals, this is a possible way you could fund this type of development. 


Thoughts?

First you start with another insult, your assumption of a lack of literacy.


Second,  your only two examples are poor at best.   One is a isolated island in the north and just by your own wording, pre-conquest Ireland which I have been reading on and there was a tribal government system that was not voluntary and had a hierarchy.   Even if we did accept your examples (which I don't), they all fell apart as soon at it met competition from other civilizations.  That in fact shows one of the major weaknesses about the inability to defend themselves from external threat.  


You can preach about non-violence all you want but that is not what you will find in "this" world called Earth.  You need to accept that as something this AnCap will deal with anywhere it tries to take hold.  

Myrkul likes to cling to his myopic Freudian view of human nature that perfectly supports his other political views.  He calls assertions facts and his opinion as truth. 

I like how he says that incentives work when NO ONE is challenging that.  He does allows for things like moral values and national duty as proper incentives to help and make a government work. 

He harps about force and how everything should be voluntary or it is evil.  He agrees that American government workers incentives are wrong but his only option is no government, not major reformation of our constitutional democratic republic that he currently lives in and enjoys the benefits of (I can only assume).  Fringe logic to support fringe ideals to make him and his cohorts feel better that they are serving "the system", just sounds like some militant hippies transported from the 60s.

Sidenote:  I love when someone challenges his views, the first thing he does is insult them by calling them a stalker.  This is not a intellectual we are dealing with, more of a propagandist (propaganda is not an inheirently bad word either, depends on how you use it, look it up).

Well a major difference is that they are working in a public service area rather than a for-profit environment.   Yes obviously companies have vetting, training and security.   But, government is not a for-profit business like private enterprise and they has a different mindset when dealing with public issues and common good.  Now what I not saying is our system currently in America is operating like that, it is out of touch and operating on a few major false assumptions.

I assume as you talk about AnCap in a theoretical sense I can talk about a democratic republic in the same sense, just so you understand where I am thinking from.

Bump.

You should ask the question, what safeguards would be different than for a private company.  Vastly different and more secure.   Many things make some people different than others.  

People in the government that are in positions to have access to sensitive areas like nuclear weapons and technology are vetted, monitored and routinely moved around.  Genetics and mental disposition are another two obvious answers to what makes someone different than another, but I assume you know that.

1.  This is where you need to take in the current situation and when we are talking about someone like this, it is all the matters.   Like I said, this cat is out of the bag.  I would rather have the current governments safeguard the nukes then proliferate them to a point where someone who is dis-satisfied decides to use them and kill innocent people to try and prove a point or achieve their goals.

2.  Why do you think the person would say anything, another speculation with no reason to believe that it is the case.  Maybe the person selling it, gets informed about its end use and supports it so they are glad it happens.  Another option is that it could change hands.   I never said this was an anarchy state only problem, where did you get that from?   You are so caught up in your idea of Anarchy that you assume someone who doesn't support it is so colored in their thinking that they would think in that manner.   I keep seeing interesting patterns debating with you all, quite interesting.

Even if I did, it wouldn't matter because you wouldn't change your mind.   Not worth my effort.   You can hold those beliefs all you want, that is your right.

First Issue:
Because of the destructive nature of nuclear weapons, obviously I would rather no one have them.   But in reality, the cat is already in the bag and because competing nation states have nuclear weapons in their possession, they would likely never relinquish them all because of the fear the another nation state was lying and held some back in their possession.  As for unstable people getting access that are in government, you should research the current safeguard we have in place so that only a few men have the ability to arm and launch nuclear weapons and those people are vetting quite harshly and are given continual physiological evaluations you mental stability.


Second Issue:
That is an assumption they would be found out, if you know what your doing you could be covert about it.   There are small tactical nukes are are as small as a suitcase.   Also in your example, you gave a price tag so I had to assume that person was purchasing it from somewhere not building their own.  Building your own it a whole other ball game and is very hard to mask because of the equipment needed, power consumption and raw materials.  You really need to understand, covert action happens everyday and it is effective more times than not.  History is filled with examples (that we know of) and it is only decades if not longer that we find out, or we seize records and read about them after the fact.  

Wow, you're just a parrot of continual charges against government as a default answer to everything.  What do we have to talk about if everything you have to say is the same thing.  Just don't bother responding and instead just reply with a blank post and I will just make up a typical response for you that will:

A.  Indict Government that is basically thugs because you didn't get a chance to volunteer
B.  Give some reference to how a privately run system for everything is the best way to do anything
C.  You logic to make it that all human decision are in self-interest
D.  And most importantly remember, Greed is good.

And the difference between me and you on this is that I would never leave this up to chance.  With the amount of violence that is portrayed in the media along with many other cultural issues, I would almost guarantee this would happen if they would accessible.  Never mind people who feel we have too many people and they may being doing mankind a service.   You have a confluence of many ideas and agendas today and this item would easily fit into many of them.   I don't see how you can either not think about these things or dismiss in a manner where you can sit back and think "typically want to keep their money and power. Nuking people tends to go in the opposite direction for them, both financially and health-wise".

Just take that example, A. you would set it off in your backyard (hopefully) B. maybe you investments are in oil, setting that thing off would make the price go through the roof..... bam, profits.   Hell we even have major short position before the WTC disaster on the airlines that were historically way outside the normal size of the shorts, who ever held those made a ton of money.   Please, widen your horizon.

There is nothing rational with the argument that a dollar amount like $8mil is what will keep this type of weapon technology out of the hands of unstable people.   NOTHING RATIONAL.

You have no imagination or common sense.   You think there are not unstable people that are rich or have vendetta or agenda.   You're as naive as they come.  You must just be a troll to say this utter nonsense.

I never said, I refused to let you take me down your little fringe logic road to try and build a case for  nuclear weapons for private citizens.   You're obviously out of touch with reality and would implement dangerous policies for everyone if given the chance.  Good day.

Yes you are.  You know why, re-read my final response on that if you have forgotten.

Too easy to pin it to that.  These are basic facts that are hard to get wrong.  A guy in camo seen in handcuffs outside of the school, is not easily mistakable and quite important.   I can see the teacher thing getting that wrong but a guy in camo saying "I had nothing to do with it" and then he is never IDed and quickly dismissed and not important just seems like something that should be thoroughly explained to why he was there and why in camo and why he was so close that he knew a shooting was taking place so that he knew to not implicate himself when he was lead away.

No irony, we have exhaustively discussed AnCap vs. The State so maybe you should get your history straight or quit being intellectually dishonest.   More you respond the more I see what you like to do.

I think so as well but I didn't want to be so dismissive to the OP which is interesting to say the least.  Too often we are totally dismissive too radical ideals, they deserve debate and discourse (usually) go through the due diligence.  We don't want to be closed minded and we also don't want to just jump off the deep end at the same time.  This is the core of critical thinking and analysis.