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12841  Other / Meta / Re: Save your nice merit records, here. on: October 07, 2019, 05:20:47 PM
Once the merit system implemented I wasn't able to rank up. Anyway, I'm gonna save my profile here. Check my post also maybe youre kind enough to fulfill my lack need  Grin




My target is Senior rank for December hope I can make it.

Currently, you need to make one more post because a triple 88 would be a much nicer series of numbers.  Hopefully, no one screws it up (which seems to be quite common in these parts) and gives you a merit until you have been able to post and capture such image...
12842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 05:08:03 PM
Price is going up nicely now over $8200. Smiley
Why the sudden burst up in the btc price any news which broke now since 12 hours ago where it stood at $7900? Sad

 MicG and I ("no homo"?) donned the Vegeta hat.  Bitcoin value is powerless against it; price burst was inevitable.

Where the fuck is $15k?  Wasn't "your" lil gang (hopefully "no homo" but I'm not sure since you did not say it in your earlier post--- I put a little FTFY hint up there)  wearing the $15k hat for a considerable amount of time, even just recently?

That did not seem to work out too well for BTC prices.   Cry Cry Cry
12843  Economy / Speculation / Re: The market after Q3 and at the start of Q4 on: October 07, 2019, 04:48:03 PM
I would like to compare the third quarter of 2017 to that of this year. The 2017 year at this time, the price was on fire with high volatility and increase but at time we are seeing a gradual drop. This is an opposite.
For the last quarter of 2017, we all know high the price was steadily going up till ATH but I don't see that happening this last quarter. I would say we should expect a profitable year by 2020.

That seems to be because your comparison point should be early 2016 and not late 2017.  It seems quite erroneous to be attempting to compare the same times of the year rather than points in the four year cycles.    In other words, late 2015 and early 2016 were getting out of the long 2014/2015 bear market, just like our April to June 3.5x outburst seemed to have been getting out of our 2018 to early 2019 bear market.
12844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 04:36:41 PM


I bet it's his search history.

Why guess? See for yourself. Takes even less time than writing your insightful post.




guess != bet.
I'll send you a PM if i happen to find your sense of humor somewhere  Wink

Pump up the jam, pump it up
While you feet are stompin'
...

Salt'n Pepa!!!
Thanks for refreshing these memories Grin

Scraping around $8k again.


But... but... bear trolls promised "one last down before up"? When $6k? (not gonna happen)  Grin Grin Grin

I'm not resting assured that this particular bottom is "in" for this particular correction (which is still $7,763  $7,714) until we go above $9k and even then, I am going to be a little jittery until we get back into the 5 digits.
12845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 04:24:30 PM
All of HairyMcLarry's posts for the past year straight revolve around the idea that the market is required to repeat the same nonsensical fractal over and over again.  What market on earth actually does that?  Pretty much none.  If this specific market in general actually functioned that way, everyone would be margin long on the same side of the trade and the market would catastrophically implode...because everyone is on the same side of the trade...and said fractal would then cease to exist.


Yes.  About a year and a half ago, pretty much Hairy admitted that he was relying on fractal comparisons, and surely I have been vocally critical of such fractal comparison reliances, even though they have largely been playing out - with, of course, some upwards deviation with our 3.5x outburst from April 1 to end of June, and currently what appears to be a return to the mean of the fractal... So whatever the fuck lack of comparison seems to still be working out in a very comparable way.


So, maybe there has never been such a system in the world, but who fucking cares?  It still has worked out quite well in bitcoin for a lot of us BTC HODLers and accumulators to be continuing to become richie and to increase our richness through the fact that BTC prices continue to go up in the longer term.. just like the silly fucking ass fractal comparisons seem to suggest.  Go figure?  

Now you roach, on the other hand, have had some mediocre gold price appreciation during this calendar year (which has gotten you all excited, and even a bit more cocky than usual), and maybe you should be taking advantage of that mediocre gold price appreciation and getting into a real future asset.. ie bitcoin?  dumb ass.
12846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 04:10:05 PM
Of course JayJuanGee is going to defend Bitfinex and the Tether scam because he knows not just Bitfinex, but Binance as well is exposed to enormous amounts of it and the Tether scam collapsing would implode the whole Bitcoin market.

Yes there is also Binance that uses Tether, which has been known for years and years and years (you acting like a dumb fuck revealing old news), and yes a "tether scam is going to bring down the whole bitcoin market" assertion has been out there for a long time.  Tether does seem to continue to have a pretty large role in the stable coin market, but as you likely also know, it is quite unlikely that a collapsing of tether would bring down the whole bitcoin market, even if such a tether collapsing scenario would be quite likely to have a short term affect on BTC prices, maybe even lasting 3 to 6 months. 

I doubt that honey badger (aka bitcoin, in case you doesn't know) gives too many shits about whether tether collapses or not, even if tether has provided some decent on and off (including transitionary) ramps for bitcoiners to trade, hold and to move around some of their bitcoin value in a way that has very much been tied to the US Dollar - which as we know is irritating as fuck to no coiners (like yourself), some government officials, traditional banks, alt coin pumpeners (even though several of the alts also have benefited quite a lot from liquidity provided by tether), and perhaps a few other bitcoin naysaying categories of peeps.   In other words, bitcoin remains quite fundamentally strong in spite of some possible attack point vectors with tether including that tether is much more centralized than bitcoin (and of course it does not have POW computing power like bitcoin that causes bitcoin to be a lot more difficult to attack in any kind of meaningful way).
12847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 05:44:31 AM
How are these fucktards at Bitfinex not in jail yet when the entire planet knows?



Just because your search engine automatically fills in the same keywords that you have been typing in for the last 3+ years does not mean that there is any kind of significance behind such autofill. 

Are you retarded, roach? (that's a rhetorical question, so you don't really need to answer it)
12848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 05:40:26 AM
Yeah merit stats.

Problem is that you did not say "no homo"....  Angry Angry Angry Angry

So mic and JJG are 2 wonder-boys.

Anyways India won the Test game against SouthAfrica.

I not caught up, but why am I in a group with JJG??

It was a discussion - The two most likely WO’s to date in the future.

 Tongue

via Imgflip Meme Generator

You did not say "no homo" either.    Angry Angry Angry

Xhomer really needs to come through with the no homo hats before it gets too gay in here. No homo.

Maybe you and I are going to have another battle, Lambie?  because I am thinking that a generic disclaimer is likely to be materially insufficient to off-set some of the lovey dovey that seems to be spreading through this thread.  Too much lovey dovey is likely to NOT be good for rambunctious bitcoin discussion, and maybe there is a bit of a social attack coming onto this WO thread?   

Sure, I am o.k. that there tends to be a sufficient dogpiling on trolls/shills, but sometimes we need to be expressively critical of the ideas of one another too, without giving credit for merely liking of each other.

Alternatively, there can be a bit of bleeding of bitcoin passion in recent times too that goes along with some of the bleeding of the bitcoin price.  Not too many of us feel as inclined to talk about fuck you money and all that when the price is going through a persistent bleeding, and surely there are some folks, such as yourself who is asserting a low that is somewhere in the $6k region, and yeah, perhaps that would be the case, even if there is a bit of a preference, even from yours truly that some of you down before up folks will end up being completely and unambiguously wrong...  and even there is some coincidence with seeming troll/shills, like whiteboy420  and the like who end up being correct, too.... so while we continue to bleed, the bears, the beartrolls and the down before up, end up being correct - and surely some of those folks will be acting on the down (if it comes) rather than merely watching in an academic kind of way that just projects greater and greater down, once some of it happens.

Down before up has been correct since 14k and soon it wont be, but yeah I think one last down before up atm. And yep sure as shit if we do get under 7k then bear trolls will come out of the woodwork saying 3k, 2k, 1k etc are coming and that it will be bear market for years or forever.


But what ends this bleeding in my eyes is simple and almost always has to happen to form a good bottom w Bitcoin since Ive been involved and that is a lot of volume showing people really want the cheap coins and find it to be an irresistible price that they just cant pass up, followed by massive green dildos. Its pretty obvious that 8k is not proving to be an irresistible price to bargain hunters and they are not piling in rn. Hopefully 6-7k does the trick, but I may be too optimistic here, nevertheless, that is where I will deploy my last fiat if it happens and if we go lower I will just miss out at those bargain prices.

It is seeming more and more like you could be correct, but you should also realize that we do not always get a clear and unambiguous reversal of the dip and back to the bull market when we are in these kinds of corrective phases.  But, sure, it may happen this time, even though it would be far from a necessary precedent for this to reverse... but you are likely correct that the greater the spike down and spike back up, then the bottom becomes more clear, and if there is a reversal on lower volume, then the reversal could take a bit longer to play out.  Either way, we do have 6 months before the halvening and even another 3-6 months before the effects of the halvening really begin to be felt, so in a less ideal scenario there could be a crawl back to $13,880 and higher prices.

Of course, I would prefer something a bit more bullish like you are outlining (even if it involves a spike down before up), but even you admit to the dangers of such a spike down that causes more desire for down for those who might be willing to pump value into attempting to make such further down to happen.
12849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 01:54:13 AM
Fuck you Fatty


Also look who made the top of the list  Gratz man - well deserved.  

 

What's that sorcery?
I didn't even know that part of the forum exists as I always relied on external efforts like tables and datas from ddmrddmr or LoyceV.
Anyway, I take no pride in that, It your merit (pun intended). I only try to contribute to the forum in the best way I can and try to stimulate most interesting (and entertaining) discussions.



wut?

aren't you a merit farmer? with your own thread and all?

I just got to 1,200 merits.
I am the most merited Senior Member ok the Forum, and I have time to improve until Oct, 9th when My activity will clock and I will be promoted to Hero!

wait.... ok...

I accept the suggestion of being more humble.

hmmmm.....


and then this

Anyway, I take no pride in that, It your merit (pun intended). I only try to contribute to the forum in the best way I can and try to stimulate most interesting (and entertaining) discussions.

ah, I see. Someone told you to be more humble so now you're merit farming for the good of humanity.

ignore?



btw, thanks for celebrating Fatmans Friday @HairyMcNutsack

Doesn't fatty contribute the most substantive of posts?  Bitter and resentful, a little, no?
12850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2019, 01:37:43 AM
Yeah merit stats.

Problem is that you did not say "no homo"....  Angry Angry Angry Angry

So mic and JJG are 2 wonder-boys.

Anyways India won the Test game against SouthAfrica.

I not caught up, but why am I in a group with JJG??

It was a discussion - The two most likely WO’s to date in the future.

 Tongue

via Imgflip Meme Generator

You did not say "no homo" either.    Angry Angry Angry

Xhomer really needs to come through with the no homo hats before it gets too gay in here. No homo.

Maybe you and I are going to have another battle, Lambie?  because I am thinking that a generic disclaimer is likely to be materially insufficient to off-set some of the lovey dovey that seems to be spreading through this thread.  Too much lovey dovey is likely to NOT be good for rambunctious bitcoin discussion, and maybe there is a bit of a social attack coming onto this WO thread?   

Sure, I am o.k. that there tends to be a sufficient dogpiling on trolls/shills, but sometimes we need to be expressively critical of the ideas of one another too, without giving credit for merely liking of each other.

Alternatively, there can be a bit of bleeding of bitcoin passion in recent times too that goes along with some of the bleeding of the bitcoin price.  Not too many of us feel as inclined to talk about fuck you money and all that when the price is going through a persistent bleeding, and surely there are some folks, such as yourself who is asserting a low that is somewhere in the $6k region, and yeah, perhaps that would be the case, even if there is a bit of a preference, even from yours truly that some of you down before up folks will end up being completely and unambiguously wrong...  and even there is some coincidence with seeming troll/shills, like whiteboy420  and the like who end up being correct, too.... so while we continue to bleed, the bears, the beartrolls and the down before up, end up being correct - and surely some of those folks will be acting on the down (if it comes) rather than merely watching in an academic kind of way that just projects greater and greater down, once some of it happens.
12851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 03:27:33 PM
Yeah merit stats.

Problem is that you did not say "no homo"....  Angry Angry Angry Angry

So mic and JJG are 2 wonder-boys.

Anyways India won the Test game against SouthAfrica.

I not caught up, but why am I in a group with JJG??

It was a discussion - The two most likely WO’s to date in the future.

 Tongue

via Imgflip Meme Generator

You did not say "no homo" either.    Angry Angry Angry
12852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 07:06:39 AM
I will just drive by in my lambo while I am partaking in blow and getting blow from a hooker.

If by Lambo you mean Hyundai and by hooker you mean Lauda, I guess this sounds plausible.

I'm just saying that bitcoin's relative performance of more than 10x better than gold has already been achieved in the past 5 years or so.

Yeah, you might say that past performance does not predict future results, but I don't have any reason to believe that diversifying into gold would do me any good, and therefore if I am thinking that it would not do me any good, then it is hard for me to recommend anyone else in a direction that seems to be inferior to bitcoin, even if bitcoin might not perform 10x better than gold in the next five years.  I cannot really know those kinds of future performance things with any kind of precision, but based on my already achieved profits (at least on paper), I can still engage in a cashing out of bitcoin process that allows me to partake in the more than 10x already realized gains (at least on paper) which allows me to partake in the hookers, lambos and blows.  

Should we plan to touch bases in the next 5 years to see where these matter are at?  If the next 5 years are anywhere near the performance of the last five years for bitcoin relative to gold, you are going to be eating more crow.   And, yeah, you seem to be o.k. with that.. at least that is what you seem to be saying.    AmiNOTrite?
12853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 06:52:35 AM
assets, commodities and currencies that are much less valuable than buying, accumulating, using and HODLing bitcoin.

JayJuanGee, put down your crackpipe.  "Hodling" an imaginary, fake commodity gives you zero power over anyone.  

I am not asserting that I have any more power over anyone else; however, I have about 10x more value in fiat because of my bitcoin as compared if I had invested that same money into gold.   So, having 10x more value is a kind of increased freedom through increased options.

And, I supposed indirectly, I have increased power over people, especially those who did NOT obtain such appreciation in value.  But I am NOT going to tell them what to do, when they are begging on the street, I will just drive by in my lambo while I am partaking in blow and getting blow from a hooker.. just an option, I suppose.  I am not judging them merely because they have no hooker, lambo or blow, and I do.  So what.


The world can point and laugh at you or use some other pump and dump scam instead of yours like Dogecoin 12.0. The only way you will ever have any type of power is hodling an actual resource, which Bitcoin is not.  Even if you were holding some sort of fringe commodity - let's say old superman comic books - it's somewhat a real commodity but it's not an actual resource so the world can still laugh at you.


Yes, I am speculating about the future, but the past performance has already delivered me 10x more than gold, so I probably will be o.k. with merely maintaining that, and I really doubt that bitcoin is going to lose such value against gold (otherwise I could get out of bitcoin, but I don't believe getting out is necessary).... Bitcoin remains as good currently (namely preferable) to gold as it was a few years ago when I got into bitcoin.

What gives you power?  Things like control of oil, energy, food, etc, mostly things related to Maslow's Pyramid.  


You are getting a bit abstract.  Most of my Maslow basic needs have been met, and they were even met when I got into bitcoin, but bitcoin has allowed more freedom to pursue higher levels without worrying about more basic levels.

None of these things are a combination of non-perishable, fungible, portable, etc, so they don't actually work as money.

bitcoin is pretty liquid.  I can use it as money or just hold it and wait  until later to cash it in, if I want.

The closest thing you can get to having any type of power without standing on top of a piece of land and trying to defend it with an AK-47 from other people or the govt trying to convert your title to non-allodial is something like physical silver, unless you want to attempt to try and hodl uranium or some other exotic and/or dangerous resource.  But you aren't getting anywhere without control of an actual resource.  Period.

Of course, you can diversify into other assets such as land and guns, if you believe that is necessary.  That is a personal choice.  You can rent, too, if you want and you can keep value in more liquid forms, such as bitcoin.  Bitcoin is more liquid than gold, and especially more portable, divisible, verifiable and able to control without third party interventions.
12854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 06:20:07 AM
Many nocoiners, if not most, are merely pre-coiners... it is just a matter of when....

So you've gone from just being some sort of multi-level marketing scammer to claiming the UN is going to kick in people's doors and force them to use Bitcoin at gunpoint even though the vast majority of the population has zero interest in it or any sort of digital only, cashless society slavery system, and in any real type of economic implosion everyone will be going straight to physical metals anyway.

You will not be forced; however, stubborn diptwats like yourself might continue to chose to ignore the incentives and to hang onto assets, commodities and currencies that are much less valuable than buying, accumulating, using and HODLing bitcoin.  That's your choice.  There will be no gun, yet there will be plenty of other smarter nocoiners (aka precoiners) than yourself.. and maybe you will be one of the true, no coiners.  Good for you and your stubbornness, but not good for your pocketbook.  Sucks to be you.   You are your own worst enemy.  Cry Cry Cry
12855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 05:52:34 AM
Bitcoiner will eventually be its own race as the vast wealth of Bitcoiners separates them from breeding with primitive cave dwelling nocoiners they will eventually evolve into a separate race and be unable to breed with nocoiners.

Our descendants will still be kind to nocoiners hopefully, but any offspring between a nocoiner and Bitcoiner will be sterile in the future due to large genetic differences. Its inevitable.

The best solution to stop nocoiners from going extinct will be large wildlife preserves where nocoiners can exist untouched by advanced society. We will build them banks and money printing tools to create an environment similar to their primitive ancestors.

I often mock nocoiners but it is sad to think of a once great people becoming an endangered species with no place to call home.

Many nocoiners, if not most, are merely pre-coiners... it is just a matter of when.... or how adamant they are.

Of course, the adamant no coiners are annoying, but likely most of the no coiners are merely just insufficiently aware, and they don't even realize that they are precoiners.
12856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
Of course, if you are getting paid in BTC, then you have different considerations including that you likely have to sell regularly, merely for your living expenses.

There are few (only nutjobs) that believe that anyone should be attempting to live 100% bitcoin when bills/expenses are most likely in fiat.

We are not far from a world where every transaction in life is done digitally. We're already 98% there IMO.

 Switching from this to a world where 90% (at least) of all transactions are done in crypto is not too farfetched of an idea. However, that still remains an ideal world that we few Crypto lovers want to see, until then, like you said, we have to deal with reality.


My point has nothing too much to do with digital, but instead about preparing yourself with your regular expenses on a regular basis.  Of course, if you live some kind of strange no mad living, then maybe you can attempt to get by totally on bitcoin.  

Most regular people are going to have a lot of expenses that are priced in fiat, at least for many years to come, such as if the dollar were to collapse or some kind of aberration event like that, which is far from likely and far from our current status.  

Of course, also, if you live in a country with a very unstable currency, then it also could be practical to keep most of your value in bitcoin.

I doubt that true bitcoiners are looking forward to a digital world, but instead looking forward to the sound money attributes of bitcoin, that also happen to allow them to have a good purpose and to get rich at the same time, since bitcoin is the most sound money ever.. just takes time for it to grow, including network effects and including hoping that something does not get fucked up along the way that would cause bitcoin to no longer have such sound money attributes.. such as some kind of take over or corruption of it.
12857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2019, 11:09:10 PM
The current price is not pleasing to see rather it makes me feel uncomfortable. when will we see the $10,000 again? Should I hold or should I sell? this is the question circulating my mind right now.




Are you talking about bitcoin or something else?    We don't care about shitcoins in this thread, unless you are engaging in a rant against shitcoins or something like that.

In other words, since you seem to be asking really dumb and ambiguous questions which shows you don't really know what the fuck you are doing, if you are talking about bitcoins, and you have any left.  Sell all of them, and relieve yourself of such HODLing misery.  Good luck.

The current price is not pleasing to see rather it makes me feel uncomfortable. when will we see the $10,000 again? Should I hold or should I sell? this is the question circulating my mind right now.

[https://i.ibb.co/7XFmh1V/Screenshot-3.jpg[/img]

you should sell, obviously BTC is not for you

I meant to say what jo-squared said (before me).    Wink
12858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2019, 03:34:29 PM
Starting to accept that we may not get an exciting pump until late 2020. What are your plans guys if we go relatively sideways until the halving?

I’m buying regularly, adding to my stash because I know that we’ll look back on the current price in 2021 & laugh, wishing we’d bought more.


I cannot afford to hodl if it goes beyond a certain number. Since I get paid in BTC per month, I will have to immediately switch to a stable coin upon getting paid if things get that bad.

I hope they won't get that bad.

Of course, if you are getting paid in BTC, then you have different considerations including that you likely have to sell regularly, merely for your living expenses.

There are few (only nutjobs) that believe that anyone should be attempting to live 100% bitcoin when bills/expenses are most likely in fiat.
12859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
* Secret Wo Meetup gang acting Lovey dovey  Grin

you didn't mention anything re: "no homo", so I am speculating (in this here speculation thread):


"lovey dovey" = gay?




 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
12860  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: October 04, 2019, 04:19:42 AM
Wow. Shit just got a whole lot realer, kids. Whatever doubts there were are certainly looking way, way shakier now.



Where do we go from here?

Rusty STAPLES.


Peter is a gonner, that's for sure.    Better believe that Peter was messing with the wrong satoshi.
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