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12861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: December 05, 2016, 11:36:45 PM
I think I'm the same as all the people in here. I like the feeling of multiplying your money in just a matter of seconds. It's like we're longing for that feeling. We want to repeat that feeling over and over again that's why we always come back. Another reason why we come back is we want to recover our losses. It's pretty hard if we get stuck in that loop. We try to recover our loss but we end have having even more losses. I think that's the time that you should quit gambling.
yes that a fact, that everyone in gambling is in struggle to make a good amount money in a short period of time, therefore gambling is looking more attractive to them, even they loosing money for several times they come again and again to play gambling even loosing money every time.

No other reason a gambler keeps on coming back, he is feeling regret for his losses so instead of accepting defeat and money he lost forever. That is what many are doing, we are wanting to recover all the losses we made even though we set a promise to ourselves that we won't gamble anymore but still we are breaking our own promises.
12862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: December 05, 2016, 11:21:35 PM
There are lot of users who gamble under the age of 18. Various gambling websites have given access to users to take part in gambling without revealing identity. Also very few are highly successful not just because of studied strategies, but with the winning luck.

Due to bitcoin anonymity now everyone got a chance to play these gambling games without revealing their identity. People just need to know how to get free coins if they can't afford to buy it then they can start gambling for fun first but later on they can slowly addict these games which is not good.

That's just the disadvantage of bitcoin gambling for those parents that doesn't monitor their children. Because their kids can simply gamble without parents notice and they can hide their true identity within the gambling sites because most of the gambling sites doesn't require registration and that's what many gamblers are loving.
12863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: December 05, 2016, 10:49:06 PM
When you are suggesting a gambler to go for it only aiming for fun, probably he will quit after some time because they do not accept the fact of gambling like gambling for fun. Maybe people are having alternate resources for having fun and entertainment what they need and they are coming into gambling only for making good profit that too in an easy way.
Yes, if people are gambling for fun then they will stick with very least bet amount or they will gamble only for free like with faucet money. Then the survival of gambling houses will be very challenging.
That is the reason some gamblers are making good profit and they are promoting themselves as the winner in gambling and making others to follow him to gamble for making profits.

I don't believe those people who are making good amount in gambling that promotes their own balance. Because it is just their own deposits and they showing it to the people as their winnings just to get some referrals but that is their strategy to get a lot of referrals. But I find it requires too much effort for it that's why I just gamble for fun.
12864  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: December 05, 2016, 10:05:30 PM
Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy

I can't even think that a big crash is going to happen to bitcoin but maybe with some countries economy, like US. But with bitcoin? I really can't see that a crash will happen. The economy of bitcoin is becoming stronger as the price stability of bitcoin is getting higher and fluctuating daily that makes me believe all the time it is being strengthen.
I think it can be still possible that the price of bitcoin can be crash but it is not a big crash. for me it is a normal that we are seeing that the price of bitcoin is decreasing. the price still relaying in demand and supply. and i think the price of bitcoin or movement of the bitcoin will be the same as last year because of you can read it  the old chart from 2015 there is a little bit same fluctuate. so i think the price will drop in 2017 but not big crash..
Is that how all the economies around the world function around demand and supply Smiley if you could follow world market there will be a time for correction when traders book their profits and hope you are talking about that.Other than small corrections i dont see any big drop in price.

I know that after the price increase there should be dump in following but yes, it is not going to be a big crash. Still that is not a good thing if that will happen next year and I guess the root cause of this crash is because of a lot of bitcoin users are just totally holding their bitcoins and doesn't want to use it in contribution for the adoption of bitcoin.
12865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: December 05, 2016, 09:49:31 PM
I did a test today.
I placed two smaller bets and two larger bets.
Guess which ones I won.
The two larger bets lost and the two smaller bets won.

Why the heck does this always happen? Huh
Haha happens with me too all the time, did you bet large bets first and then the small bets or the other way round? only a couple of times i've managed to win large bets, it happens because of bad luck i think. Roll Eyes

That's just totally bad luck if you wanted to have a lot of chance of winning you can just simply bet always with small amount. If you are not lucky with betting big amount then you should just stick for betting small amount. And that is not happening to you man, it is happening to all of us I guess that is just a problem with our luck or program of the gambling sites that they will allow to win their gamblers if their bets are small, but big amount no.
12866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: December 05, 2016, 09:26:17 PM
a person can become addicted to gambling in my opinion because he had experienced a victory quite a lot of gambling until he returned gamble tomorrow to make a profit as it does today
Well this is how one starts down the road into gambling and once they go down that path it is very difficult to come back from that if gone to far.
This is what I believe anyways. Undecided
That's well known factor that to attract users and gamblers casinos and other gambling staff let to person win in the beginning, then they go down the percent of the person's wins. But that person is already hooked with all that easy wins and believes in his luck or talent or all together. And he looses, looses more and more. That's how casinos make money.

I'm sick to that strategy of gambling sites and it is truly an effective way to market their own gambling site if they are allowing gamblers to win big in the start but they will try to recover it a little by little without noticing that the gambler is already not using his own winnings. But he is already using the money on his pocket.
That is why you can only win in the beginning i experience this too in some gambling site which is they let you win in the first time. since people who are gamble and win a small amount or win big they are still not satisfied they will greed to play and lose it all in the end..
The other strategy they are made is making a new account with different ip and address so that they can win in the first time and withdraw and make a new account again. because gambling can let you win in the first game play..

Really? that's too much addiction. They are hardly believing in the beginners luck but I don't think if they will do it, nothing will happen because gambling is still depending on the luck of the people. Because even they will do that they will still experience addiction and that will still lead them into losing as they gamble.
12867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: December 04, 2016, 11:41:42 PM
a person can become addicted to gambling in my opinion because he had experienced a victory quite a lot of gambling until he returned gamble tomorrow to make a profit as it does today
Well this is how one starts down the road into gambling and once they go down that path it is very difficult to come back from that if gone to far.
This is what I believe anyways. Undecided
That's well known factor that to attract users and gamblers casinos and other gambling staff let to person win in the beginning, then they go down the percent of the person's wins. But that person is already hooked with all that easy wins and believes in his luck or talent or all together. And he looses, looses more and more. That's how casinos make money.

I'm sick to that strategy of gambling sites and it is truly an effective way to market their own gambling site if they are allowing gamblers to win big in the start but they will try to recover it a little by little without noticing that the gambler is already not using his own winnings. But he is already using the money on his pocket.
12868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: December 04, 2016, 11:32:13 PM
Mate there are two problems with betting big, one is obviously loosing and the other one is site might scam.
I never agree to go for high value bets, it is always risky. When there will be no possibility of making fortunes from gambling and becoming rich, why we need to try unnecessarily with higher bets. If you are going for gambling with higher bets, you will become poor so quickly. For me, small bets at more than enough to have some entertainments.
If most people who gramble do it for fun, as they say, I think the amount to be invested is not the most important thing. Moreover, investing in large amounts does not necessarily mean that the individual will profit more, actually there is greater exposure in this way. I think what will make a difference in earnings is a good strategy.

That's why you don't have to bet higher amount in order to sustain your goal for just having fun as you gamble. Because that will just going to make you even poorer if you will do this type of strategy. This can be good for those people who have bigger bankrolls and will not be affected too much if they will lose big bets.
12869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: December 04, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
Casinos and gambling sites never lose, so someone is paying their bills, and it is undoubted that their clients are doing it. Of course it is clear that there are exceptional cases of fortunate gamblers that have been able to gain millions, but perhaps 95% of gamblers do end up losing money.

That's the reality about gambling sites we are the ones that are becoming the source of their profit and for paying their bills. That's why the advantage is always to them, they will allow us to win for big amount occasionally but they will still recover that eventually for they always letting their gamblers to lose in the end.
12870  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: December 04, 2016, 11:08:46 PM
Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy

I can't even think that a big crash is going to happen to bitcoin but maybe with some countries economy, like US. But with bitcoin? I really can't see that a crash will happen. The economy of bitcoin is becoming stronger as the price stability of bitcoin is getting higher and fluctuating daily that makes me believe all the time it is being strengthen.
12871  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: December 04, 2016, 10:54:31 PM
Open an bank account or where you should put all your profit not in bitcoin wallet because as long as you are seeing bitcoin in your wallet you are going to play it or invest it on website playing gambling is not a solution to make more profit. Managing money is not really hard if you are going to set some rules in your life like your not going to spend that much and save it instead.
Opening a bank account is not an answer since there are a lot of fiat casinos where you can deposit with bank transfers, so if you are very interested in gambling the best thing to do is to set up a monthly budget and never go over it.

That can help if you will put some of it on it but you can still withdraw that if there are times of need, still that is useful to open a savings account to the bank. If you truly want to save your earnings to bitcoin, you can just simply talk to the teller or manager of the bank that you wanted to open a time deposit, this will teach you discipline plus interest because you are not allowed to withdraw your deposit.
12872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advantages and Disadvantages use cryptocurrency like Bitcoin for online gambling on: December 04, 2016, 10:40:43 PM
Advantages are you can play in your home, you can play without giving your real identity, you can play using your mobile phone. You can pre roll w/o a bet.

Right, These are the advantages that we can get with bitcoin gambling the convenience is what we are going to experience as we use bitcoin to gamble. And also we can gamble for small amount.

I will say that for the casino owners definitely there is more benefits as they are getting more bets with more people coming there without showing their identity but for the community the disadvantage is that even kids also come to these online casino and they play games for money on these online casino and bet for sports etc.

And this is the disadvantage that we will sadly know about bitcoin gambling, we are helping gambling casino business owners to make their site grow and get profit from our losses.
12873  Economy / Services / Re: Hackers of BCT? on: December 04, 2016, 10:28:47 PM
I think OP is requesting for white-hat hackers, those are good guys as they try to solve the problem in a given system.

Surely this is what op is looking for, just an additional info to all people here. There are two types of hackers, white hats just like what op is looking for and the other one is the black hat hackers which is what we likely thinking all the time of their bad intentions of hacking websites. I guess op, this is not the right place to look for those type of service.
12874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 04, 2016, 10:10:43 PM
i personally more comfortable to do online gambling because my families or my friends doesn't really know of my hobbies because i could do online gambling in my own room and would be different for real gambling because to do so i must visiting physical casinos and with visiting physical casino soon or late they will know my hobbies and i don't like it all
yes most of the people have the same problem while playing gambling as they do not want that their family may know about their gambling habits therefore most of the people are giving preference to online gambling. i my self like to play online gambling as gambling is illegal in my country there is now worry while playing gambling online and can play it free minded.

That's a solution to your addiction but just don't let your family know that you are gambling online or else you will be punished by your family if they are really against to your hobby of gambling. But always remember that gambling experience with real gambling and online gambling is different from each other and we do have our own preference for it.
12875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: December 04, 2016, 09:57:12 PM
even bigger sites like primedice,fortunejack accept small bets (<0.00001 btc). if you bet with the smallest amount then you might experience the rolls being slow, if you bet high amount bets then the rolls will be much faster.
But when I am really enjoying the ups and downs of my profits, why should I go for faster one. I always prefer to stay with small bet amount as it will guarantee to stay longer time with my gambling activities.

I start my dicing with 1 satoshi, but a continuous losing streak makes my bet amount to bigger. Yes, I agree with this as it is part of my strategy.

I do prefer to stick with small amount betting too. Even I lose a lot for a day still I don't rush with my bets because I do believe that it will lead me more into losing big amount of bitcoins. And upon betting small amount of bitcoins, I'm pretty happy to win small amount in return and I don't get hurt too much when I'm losing.


That's the best thing to do you must use small amount for gambling, the smaller your bet the small you lose. Dice game like at directbet accepts small betting in any value you prefer, just like my experiences with this site i gamble for fun and yet i also win but most of it were loses. Having this smart idea would make you more mature in gambling and you also will be gaining self descipline on managing your budget for gambling.

Also bitvest is accepting small amount for gambling, and I see that many gambler are still playing with yobit dice game. And I can see that there are some who are playing with big amount but most of the people there are playing small amount whether it is with bitcoin or alt coins. Betting small is just a smart way of gambling.
12876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 03, 2016, 09:36:52 PM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

First, I guess there is already a thread for this. But with your mindset that most of investing sites are just scam, no you are wrong with that. Investing is not just all about depositing your bitcoins and in return you will get some profit. How about the trading sites, most of them are trusted by many people here, maybe you just need to know the trusted sites that you need to invest.
12877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 03, 2016, 09:28:46 PM
No there are no safe methods to gamble because its something that is not risk free and there will always be a risk that you lose money!

Surely that there is no safe methods for gambling because all strategies does have the risk and even the famous martingale strategy. Many are complaining that it is not even helping them, I guess the method will come to you on how you will handle risk in gambling, its either you will bet higher or small or do it by playing yolo.
strategy are just a pattern to make you not get bored quickly just it nothing more. people recognize and believe a strategy affect the result, i just don't think so . indeed sometimes strategy make you confident and often make you win rather than without strategy , but it's not last forever .

So it does affect the result or the outcome of the bet. 


Result and outcome are just the same thing but I don't think that strategies are there just because to kill our boredom. Its up to the gambler on how he will believe his own strategy, if that is a very effective way to him as he gamble then that's better. I do believe that strategy will affect the result, like in sports betting if you are doing some strategy like analysis and background studying for the match, then it can give you more chance of winning.
Well strategy will work only in pokers and i think also in sports betting but in the other games like dice game they are just the same result that you will  experience to lose it all. there is no strategy that you can gives good profit but it can help you to slowly lose your funds..
In sports betting yeah we have more chance to win there unlike in other game. because it is more easy to predict that you will see their play and you can decide who will win..

I don't think that your strategies always work in poker and sports betting if that is true then by now most sports betting sites should be closed. But in these betting, you can surely increase your winning chances, and end results will depend on luck only.
He said it's easy to predict games which very contradicting to what is happening. Gambling sites would not be so profitable if it's easy to predict games, and honestly the words "public loses most of the time" would not be heard and fading the public will not be use as one of the best method in sports betting.

That's why I said its up to the gambler, because we have beliefs that we made up some good winnings because of our own way. But yes, there is no easy way to predict gambling games, its either you had experienced failure first before you get some good fortune as you gamble. Regardless of the strategies to make your gambling safely, just always remember that we have our own stand and belief with individuals strategy in gambling.

12878  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: December 03, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
We are all having this dream but if it will come out is the question because its something that can be done easily but you need a lot of luck that is the only downside.

You don't need to have luck just to get rich with bitcoin. What you need is hardwork, patience and determination. Because bitcoin is also our fiat currency which have value and if we are able to collect a lot of it then the same thing with the fiat money, we will be considered rich. And with bitcoin it gives a lot of source of income, so you just need to work it out.
12879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 03, 2016, 09:09:57 PM
nothing guarantees that it could be done, but I feel someone had to do it, either using scripts or other tricks, but certainly there are people who have benefit in a long time when gambling. but I am sure it will be very difficult to do if you're trying to play in normal circumstances
In a long term gambling we can gamble huge amount with very low odds with win percentage of more than 85, then we will make some profit without taking much risk and in this way we can gamble very long term with low win percentage. I usually play small amount with more than 50% of win percentage and martingale.

Firstly I don't agree that we can make a money from gambling in the longer run and secondly if you go with low odd games to bet and if you lose one or two games then you need to win another few games to recover those losses. We can't guarantee that what percentage we will win in the long run so it is not possible to make money in gambling in the longer run.

We cannot make profit if we are just simply visiting gambling sites and loses our bitcoins but being an investor will make it happen and possible in the long run. But it seems this is a very impossible thing for an individual gambler to be able to get some decent profit with gambling in the long run, this is just possible for the owners.
Investment in gambling can be a good idea but there is no assurance that you can make a good profit you should choose what gambling site is the best to invest that you can actually earn a good profit. we have already review about some site that actually giving good profit..
Like in betking that someone has already made a large profit in investing in that site..

Research, effort, patience and focus is what we really need in investment ,we need to research on the reliable sites and focus on gaining more to be able to invest more but making sure to invest it not only in one site. This things needs effort same when gambling patience and effort is really needed when you already lose more than your capital there is  need to stop same when already won that much. Gambling can also really a source of income when you have focus on your game plan and have a self control.

There are a lot of gambling sites that can be good to entrust your bitcoins for investing to them, you can see what's on my signature, bitvest is good to invest too. And it might be a source of income for those people who are really addicted with gambling but with me, I don't call it as source of income it is just for entertainment when I get bored.
12880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: December 03, 2016, 09:03:30 PM
I was wondering if you make bets on sports that you have no experience in?

lets say you have never watched boxing, or soccer even, would you still consider betting on these matches?
how will you do it then? random or will you use a tipster service?

I was thinking about getting into sports betting but the games are countless and i don't know which one to choose and i don't know anything about majority of sports.

I won't risk my bitcoins easily with that way, I want to take the advantage to the sports that I'm more familiar. That's where you will get your advantage and gets higher chance of winning, but if there are times that I just wanted to bet even I don't know how the teams performing with that particular sports, I will use tipster for it but that will happen very occasional.
If you don't know anything about majority sports, you may try to bet with e-sports betting.
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