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12921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 11:05:48 AM
Hope everyone has a better understanding of what alt coins are really for now.  Now you know why I have no plans for a pump and dump.
You just finished making a bunch of references to how altcoins were just like the dot-com bubble's zero innovation businesses, and how you wanted to make a lot of money from that happening with altcoins.

When I first read on bitcoin and everything immediately came together in my mind I was in shock, it was like finding a time machine for the first time in my life only I lacked the money to make it happen.
I hope we can all work together to prevent 9/11 2.0 on September 14, 2015. Watch out for the lizardmen for us.


First, a pump and dump is a quick 1 or 2 months scheme.  By no means is holding a stock or coin for more than a year and pump and dump scam. If that's true then everyone on wallstreet except buffet is a pump and dumpster.

And second, I wouldn't be doing the pumping, so its not my scheme, if I see what's happening and I sell in Time I'm not a pump and dump scammer, its called a gifted investor who knows when to get in and get out.

I don't blame you for investing in bitcoins and altcoins to make a profit. But you making a new zero-innovation bitcoin-derivative for the purpose of a profit and then dumping it is not a bitcoin-derivative we're going to sign up for as users.


A) I didn't dump it.

B) I thought programmers here could program - I had no idea they couldn't implement my features.

C). Why aren't you upset with all the other 50 crapCoins?  At least I'm not dumping mine, I guarantee you not one of those guys thinks like me and will dump every coin the second it gets on an exchange.  I'll put my wallet up to show you all I'm not dumping.  I'm waiting for the bitcoin ETF and then I'll give it a few more months and decode then what to do. That's my advice to everyone.

Is Nugget even on an exchange? You're holding your premine aren't you  Wink.... waiting.... waiting.... GONE!


No.  I had no wallet until today.  For some reason only half got premined. The full 1% I was told by the programmer it was never mined, only half. The guy was very honest so I trust him.

The programmer gave away 500,000 coins to random people last night.

Then I made r3 my 50% partner and gave him permission to collect the rest of the 1.6 million from the programmer and he has already started using them for bounties.  And since I had no coins (even though, you know, it's my fucking coin) I had to post 2 bounties today in bitcons - nearly .5 BTC.  That's not much but for me it is cause I'm not working and I've already spent a lot on what is so far nothing but a shitty spendy hobby (for now) and my wide is losing hope in my great govt digital conspiracy theory.. 

My wife cut me off now after I spent $1,400 on domain names nobody cares about and $4,000 on BFL rigs I haven't seen even one yet, paying to launch a coin I got shit on for, spending with no joke 12-16 hours per day on here instead of with my wife and kids and blowing though our savings on a theory that the govt is gonna push alt coins through the stratosphere. That argument worked wonders the first 2 months while now I now have to sell my 93 ford F150 with a new dealer install engine which cost $4,000 and new $1,000 tires ( I have receipts for it all, but I shouldn't have to sell a classic for alt coin tneories).  Chasis has 154,000 miles, its a true classic with the new engine and new tires maybe 10,000 miles.  I don't want to sell it but I've got little small ticket items to part with.

That truck is a steal at $5,000.  I couldn't find even 1 with a new engine in the whole US.  I love that truck but I believe in the future of this alt coin so much that I can't sit and stay and watch anymore.  I can't do it.  I wish I were a woman cause I may be tempted to sell like massages - you know, nothing dirty, just the queen of tease.  I know it's wrong but I believe in this that much.

So that's why I'm trying to mine some coins while the difficulty is low but I frankly have a laptop and some old dell Servers.  This is impossible to mine with.  How can I launch my own coin and have jack shit for coins?  Why is it wrong after the long hours, the bullshit and the money I spent and will keep spending on bounties.  I should at least have like 1 million coins for all the long hours and hassle and bounties.

You people are gullible.  I tried to be honest and only keep half of 1% for myself but you all went crazy.  You're telling me the devs of other coins get no coins?  Impossible.  I don't buy it - they have some back door way to get paid.  You're all getting played, and you deserve it for not laying devs a generous salary.

I don't know enough about programming but if I did I promise you I'd find a legsl legit loophole around these stupid rules and I'd find a way to reward myself and the programmers who helped me some reasonable anoint of coins for their efforts.  That's how all corps work and this incentive process invites more and better and better devs.

You people are such haters of success that you're stuck with assholes with no idea of programming play pretend devs such as myself launching coins which don't even work.


If you rewarded your devs like say, 2% of a legit premine or a constant as you mine pay the devs then you'd get way better devs coming here.  But if you have fits and cows for just .5%, half a point for all the long hours and stress and time away from my kids, you guys deserve guys like me and worse.

At least I speak English and I apologize when I insult the wrong person and I genuinely want you guys to succeed and make money.  Watch the next dev - some Mexican who can't speak a world of English just doing a massive pump and dump and cursing at you while he's at it.

Pay your devs a good % you cheapskates and you'll get better coins.  It's win-win!

Now somebody please tell me now do I, as a dev, I must have special rights, how can I increase my earnings?  Don't tell me mining cause my laptop has been mining all day and not a single coin.

There's gotta be a way.  Somebody help me out.  The bible says it's all about timing snd chance, and my life experience fully agrees with that.  Here's the timing, finally got it down but the chance - i've never had the chance.  Even college, my parents were wealthy and out of 6 kids I was the only one to go to college, straight A's, while working the whole time and never any money for gas, clothes, school-books, tuition, food,  NOTHING.  And you can't take loans until you're 25 so I struggled so much, I had nightmares even 20 years later.

Who does that, wolves?  My freshman year I stole my books from the student store but then I saw I never read them and I felt guilty so I stopped and for the nest 5 out of 6 years of college I only bought 3 total books which I hardly read them, more like required homework by some jerk teacher to get kickbacks from the publisher.  Hard ass teachers telling us the book were necessary.  BS.  Take good notes and books are not needed.

I got a 3.8 cumulative GPA in difficult business Finance and Economics at a top ranked university while I never touched their bullshit books.   Not to mention English is my second language and I greew up in the ghetto for the first 2 years until my dad learned English, worked 16 hours days the whole time and man, in 2 years we were out of hell and 2 years later we lived in an all upper-class white neighborhood 2 story house with a pool in the Bay Area.  4 years from nothing but lots prayers foodstsamps, 6 kids, 1 salary and no assets except our clothes.  That was a miracle and rewards of working hard.

Now on a more personal note which has greatly touched my heart and changed my entire life:


I worked as hard as my dad until i would get recurring horrible nightmares with my eyes open just like him, and went to night college like him but I never had the timing and chance like him cause home prices went up 10 fold while salaries only doubled so i feel so hopeless. I keep hoping and trying but its getting so much harder to stay positive but i know God is in-charge it's so hard sometimes to hold on to your faith even when you're eating dirt for years after years with no break or hope In sight. 

I pray God gives me the strength and has mercy on me to get that big break and to do what's right if i do get rich cause that does worry me cause I am a natural, big A-hole by nature so I'm sure I deserved every pound of dirt God has forced fed me in an attempt to humble me. 

It has worked to some degree - 20 years of eating dirt but deep inside I feel my pride swelling up inside my heart Over the smallest compliment or over the smallest accomplishment and it's gotten to the point where it makes me so physically ill that I wish there was a way to literally carve it out of my heart cause I would do it with my own hands regardless of the pain, for there is no greater guaranteed pain and humiliation than that caused by this relentless pride, which like fire, never says enough - the set-up before the imminent, devastating fall from grace and relentless, solemn fail from what appeared by all form of logic as a sure thing before pride engulfed your heart.

Pride, the number one enemy of man and success - turning a sure thing into an impossible feat and utter failure every single time.  I hate pride with every ounce of my heart, mind and soul yet it keeps coming back, uninvited, albeit it is now only a fraction of what it once was in my youth and I pray to God that before I close my eyes for the last and final time on this earth - that I will witness first hand the death of that pride that has destroyed more opportunities and relationships in my life than I will ever know.

But if I should perish first and with my dying breath, if this evil, dream robbing pride still beats inside my heart I will take such wonderful joyful pleasure and reservation in knowing that one way or another, I will cross over to the other side - wherever that may be - while that dark, life engulfing Death Star of man, a spiritual parasite living in all our hearts will not go beyond this realm but will die a slow, lonely death and petrify its final resting place inside the physical, stone cold heart which has no place in the new world and it will bring me such joy knowing that no matter how great and powerful that prideful heart once was, on that faithful final moment, it will be nothing more than worm food, never again beating for the sole purpose of destroying the life, passions, dreams and lifelong plans ever again.  But until that faithful day, I will fight you, pride, with all the prayer, strength, humility and meekness bestowed upon my mind, heart and soul by God my Father.

Pride, kill it - banish it before it destroys every last dream in your heart and mind. 
12922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mass Market Appeal Coin - SantaCoin on: July 16, 2013, 09:15:58 AM
I think you missed the sarcasm. Or maybe me.
Anyway, Allahcoin did a much better job.


But seriuoulsy, was there was there an Allah coin?  I thought about buying it but I was worried if I didn't give it I'd get some cute bow-tied bombs in the mail so I passed.

But they're a loyal bunch.  And if the ayotollah told them Allah said to buy just a few coins can you imagine?  1.6 billion buying just 3 coins each?  It would dwarf  it coin which is why I thought a religion coin would be so huge.  But you God haters did away with that one. 

Thanks, noodle appendage guy.
 
That image kinda grosses me out like in a more than normal way but I can't stop looking at it.  Maybe there's something wrong with me and you just helped uncover it.  Great, that's all I needed in this utterly messed up 24 hours. 
12923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mass Market Appeal Coin - SantaCoin on: July 16, 2013, 09:11:47 AM
fail

Ok.
12924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Hope everyone has a better understanding of what alt coins are really for now.  Now you know why I have no plans for a pump and dump.
You just finished making a bunch of references to how altcoins were just like the dot-com bubble's zero innovation businesses, and how you wanted to make a lot of money from that happening with altcoins.

When I first read on bitcoin and everything immediately came together in my mind I was in shock, it was like finding a time machine for the first time in my life only I lacked the money to make it happen.
I hope we can all work together to prevent 9/11 2.0 on September 14, 2015. Watch out for the lizardmen for us.


First, a pump and dump is a quick 1 or 2 months scheme.  By no means is holding a stock or coin for more than a year and pump and dump scam. If that's true then everyone on wallstreet except buffet is a pump and dumpster.

And second, I wouldn't be doing the pumping, so its not my scheme, if I see what's happening and I sell in Time I'm not a pump and dump scammer, its called a gifted investor who knows when to get in and get out.

I don't blame you for investing in bitcoins and altcoins to make a profit. But you making a new zero-innovation bitcoin-derivative for the purpose of a profit and then dumping it is not a bitcoin-derivative we're going to sign up for as users.


A) I didn't dump it.

B) I thought programmers here could program - I had no idea they couldn't implement my features.

C). Why aren't you upset with all the other 50 crapCoins?  At least I'm not dumping mine, I guarantee you not one of those guys thinks like me and will dump every coin the second it gets on an exchange.  I'll put my wallet up to show you all I'm not dumping.  I'm waiting for the bitcoin ETF and then I'll give it a few more months and decode then what to do. That's my advice to everyone.
12925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
Hope everyone has a better understanding of what alt coins are really for now.  Now you know why I have no plans for a pump and dump.
You just finished making a bunch of references to how altcoins were just like the dot-com bubble's zero innovation businesses, and how you wanted to make a lot of money from that happening with altcoins.

When I first read on bitcoin and everything immediately came together in my mind I was in shock, it was like finding a time machine for the first time in my life only I lacked the money to make it happen.
I hope we can all work together to prevent 9/11 2.0 on September 14, 2015. Watch out for the lizardmen for us.


First, a pump and dump is a quick 1 or 2 months scheme.  By no means is holding a stock or coin for more than a year and pump and dump scam. If that's true then everyone on wallstreet except buffet is a pump and dumpster.

And second, I wouldn't be doing the pumping, so its not my scheme, if I see what's happening and I sell in Time I'm not a pump and dump scammer, its called a gifted investor who knows when to get in and get out.  Those investors are rare and get paid billions to run hedge funds since that intuition and vision is one in billions.  Soros is one of those guys and he got the gift overnight in his early 30's and it changed his life forever.  He was never the same investor after he started seeing things before they would happen.  I believe such a gift comes from God but of course Soros thinks He is God.

Great, more key words which the gov algos picked up on and went straight to the NSA AND soros's underground lab.  Lol.

Like usual, people kinds hear what they want to hear.  It's called confirmation bias and says a lot about that person.  

Good luck to you, regardless.
12926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:34:18 AM
Ok, I'm gonna try t go to bed.  My mind is spinning now I gotta slow it down so I can sleep.

Hope everyone has a better understanding of what alt coins are really for now.  Now you know why I have no plans for a pump and dump.  That's the worst plan ever.  The real money is coming really soon and you guys are so lucky to be in the right place at the right time.

When I first read on bitcoin and everything immediately came together in my mind I was in shock, it was like finding a time machine for the first time in my life only I lacked the money to make it happen.
12927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:31:58 AM
I'm not agreeing with Vlad's wild conspiracy theories, I'm just pointing out that such an attack is technically indeed not as infeasible as some seemed to imply.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248645.msg2640864#msg2640864

Also as was pointed out earlier there are several comparatively efficient potential strategies to gain >50%, invest a few $M in ASICs, run major mining pools then subvert them, subvert and/or DDoS existing pools..
I disagree with him calling that an attack to "manipulate the source code", but I can see how that sort of attack would be very damaging. I can't imagine anyone spending the money to do it though.

Well effectively it would dictate code/protocol changes the minority of the network has to follow if they don't want to lose their coins, that's basically what "manipulate the source code" means, as jl2012 points out

Winklevoss uses the word "manipulate", which means "to influence or manage shrewdly or deviously".

And yeah I agree the effect would be very damaging, can't really imagine anybody doing it either though, given the still enormous resource requirements.
"If they don't want to lose their coins"?
If a gov gets 51% of the hash power and changes the protocol, my client will tell its blocks to fuck off and yet I'd still be able to spend my coins on the old network... The blocks my client would accept are the ones created with the non-gov client

And if nobody switch to the gov client, the gov would hash a blockchain that is used by no one except itself
The idea is that an attacker could push changes by only allowing a subset of valid blocks through. Your client would seem them as valid and would always stick to the attacker's longer valid chain.
Ok I get what you meant now


Thank you so much.  Most people lose it cause they can't imagine such a horrible plan in the works. People are generally in permanent in denial which is why horrible plans work, stupid people are everywhere.

 They criminalized owning gold from 1934 til 1979 yet nobody nobody knows that and the whole reason was to transfer wealth from the masses to the govt.  they went door to door and took by force all
 The gold and like 7 months later they changed the price of gold from $20 to $35 and since the govt had all the gold they got 70% richer and the masses lost 70% of their paper money value.  A true and instant transfer of real asset value.  Yet nobody has any idea, they think its impossible.  That's human stupidity, that's why I don't care cause everyone deserves it but at least see what's coming and make some money and get the hell out.

It was the largest theft in the history of the world,  and this coming digital currency theft will do worst than that.  They US govt owns so many trillions that they will use the missing $9 trillion to buy up all the gold off the planet they can get (after driving gold prices down to $500) in order to give their digital money some real value or credibility and once everyone switches over bam, devaluation of all wealth by 90%.  Go cry to your cat cause there's 30,000 drones flying over head 24/7 set to kill anything that moves after 9pm.  And yeah, your guns are gone thanks to. An executive order and a Supreme Court.  Congress has been officially denutted.  Just overpaid YES men.  They're all crooked now Csuse it' too big for anyone to stop so they all just play along scared shitless.

That's the change and hope you all voted for.  No biggie, it's meant to be, God's will for a nation who spits in His face but why not make some money off such an obvious scheme. Wait for th ETF license and then its party time.  That will be the biggest confirmation cause there's no way those two dopes should get that ETF.
12928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
holy fucking shit.


Just read the facts and ignore the opinions and my theories.  The facts alone should scare the shit out of anyone.  It's all verifiable as I did my own homework as I don't watch TV.
12929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:21:45 AM
holy fucking shit.


Which part.


The sheer size or the craziness conspiracy backed by plenty of facts?
12930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 08:15:03 AM
Lol. Come on man.  In theory.  If the govt wanted to take over bitcoin.  Could they use a hard fork to make bitcoin totally transparent.   Totally centralized.  No more pipe dream secrecy Cause I've read a hard fork can do all that yet people act like its behind the power of the CIA.  Which I think it's childish - it's a program and what one programmer can do another team of 0hD programmers can alter and undo.  That's how it works.  Bitcoin is not I breakable. It's just a program.  A hard fork can change it completely if a powerful entity like the US government chose to do so. Am I right or not?  Enlighten these people please.  Because I lack the know how and vocabulary.  Thanks.

If the government released their own fork of bitcoin that was totally centralized, it would only have power if everyone switched to it. Short of going into everyone's houses and swapping the bitcoin program with govtcoin secretly, there's no way they can force everyone's bitcoin clients to switch to it. And no one is going to voluntarily switch.


Thank you.  So it can be done with a hard fork.

Now imagine a total frenzy for alt coins, with the bitcoin being the carrot, the shining knit to keep innovation alive.  Remember the housing madness where every idiot was flipping houses.  Remember the gold bubble where every fool was buying gold at $1,800 (which by the way I wrote gold would implode below $1,000 and down to $500).  Remember the dot com boom where worthless companies with ZERO cash-flows were valued at higher valuations than General Motors and Boeing yet people and the pros were saying strong buy while their masters, Goldman Sacks et al were dumping on the masses and when they got busted in 2002 they had to pay mere fines and not a single executive went to prison for theft of trillions from the public?

All this was real and it was recent. We're the same people and the same media and the same bankers are running the show.  The market is rigged and bitcoin and alt coins are next and here's your chance In a lifetime to get in before them cause they never saw this coming.

They're gonna game Bitcoin and alt coin, so get rich selling to those bastards while they run the prices so high with media hype and bogus analyst upgrades (just like in the dot com era) and in the end when everyone is buying and mining alt coins that's when the bankers dump on everyone so wait, wait for the million and dump it on them cause this bubble will run higher than the dot com bubble cause they want the whole planet to be sold on digital money.

Now imagine them coming to you and saying, we need to stop terrorists and drug dealers and the bad guys and we'll give you 1 bitcoin for every $10 dollars you have in the bank.  How many people would say no?  At that frothy frenzy phase nobody will say no, so see, they'll hard fork the Bitcoin or whatever coin they choose and then you'll agree to download the new client and that's how they're gonna get you and just like in 1935, like 7 months after they made owning gold criminal and illegal they stole all the gold and gave you paper money, and the next year, like 7 moths later they passed a law over night making gold worth $35 from $20, a devaluation of 70%.  All of your wealth was destroyed by 70% overnight and you couldn't do anything, while the government, holding all the stolen gold just expanded their monetary base by 70%, with the use if a single pen.  They'll make you feel rich for a few months and then they'll devalue your whole worth by 90% overnight.

This is why they're making everyone register their gold all of a sudden so they can confiscate it like in 1934. And this is why $9 trillion went missiing from the fed, and years later nobody can account for it (ha!), its no accident that money can buy all the gold in the world - it would be the only way for the US to get more powerful while robbing everyone and saving face in the world.  Hey, look, we have 160,000 tons of gold, more than the whole planet combined.  And why not, it was bought with Monopoly money.  What a racket, how brilliant.

With digital money it would be even easier snd that's the only way out of all this.  The $9 trillion missing from the fed is sitting on the sidelines to buy up all the good in the world currently worth $8.2 trillion.  That's how the US will save face and get the planet to play ball.

You'll all go for it, and once you sign up they'll wait a few months and one morning you'll wake. Up and your million dollar Bitocon account will be worth $100,000.  I think this time they're not gonna steal 70% but 90% and they'll site some national e,erg wench for it to pay social security or obamacare but it will be theft. 

Sure there's gonna be revolts, that's why they'll make guns illegal first with a directive order bypassing congress and going to the Supreme Court.  Once that's done te restor the laws will be cake.

Why did did homeland security just buy 1.6 billion bullets when a full blown Iraq war uses only 70 million bullets per year, homeland security is for internal conflicts within our borders.  Why did homeland security buy 30,000 drones, enough to patrol the entire US 24/7?  Why last month the law was past for the first time for these drones to legally fly over civilian air space, first time ever?  Why did the NDAA law passed some 5 months ago allowing army personnel to assault, attack, detain and imprison US citizens with no due process, no charges, no lawyers and for any amount of time in prisons or FEMA camps already built all over the US estimated to hold 50 million people. 

Why did they just pass a law to bring in 15,000 Russian military troops into the US?  Don't we have plenty troops and isn't Russia an enemy if the state?  Why are there currently millions of "North American Troops" trained and on stand by in Mexico and Latin America?  Why would we need them?  Or are these median and Russian troops there cause they know most US soldiered and cops will not fire on American civilians and the bad blood created by politician between medians and Americans and medians over the past 10 years, boy, how convenient, most look forward to kill some Americans, and who can blame them.

You guys think all these things are coincidences.  Laws which violate our constitution and then all of a sudden, when the euro, the dollar, the yen and other Asian currencies are ready to collapse here comes out of nowhere from a anonymous a digital currency which can solve all of these problems just as long as people at large fall in love th them.  But people are stupid, they'll never tell for it.  Yes, but greed will so let's give it away for free and we'll let them create the best coin and pay for the innovation and the electricity since it it'll take a power plant to mine these things and the Chinese Will know we're up to something.  And why do you guys think the Chinese ran a special a few months ago on their communist channel telling all their citizens to mine and buy and accumulate all the bitcoins they can?  Is that normal to you? 

Why did the president pass an executive order that the US government can kill at will for the first time in history, murder any US citizen without due process, an arrest, any charges or incarceration or a right to trial if the US deems that person as a threat to national security.  All of these messed up laws have barely made the news and they have almost all been passed in the last year since president Obama started his second term and 95% of the population has no idea.

Wake up people, you're calling me naive.  All of these things are intertwined and digital, digital money is the only last great obstacle standing in their way to take the last of our freedom.  Guns, guns are done, they'll bypass congress with an executive order which will go to the Supreme Court. The constitution - it's dead.  executive orders and secret powerful judicial courts have destroyed the checks and balances system of honesty and accountability. 

There's huge plan underway which will cause massive unrest and what's worse than stealing 90% of the country's wealth.  They have no choice, they owe too many trillions and they have to start paying very soon.   That's why they're printing and borrowing dollars like mad cause they know there not paying it back but instead they'll do the planets biggest ever transfer of wealth via a digital currency gimmick but it won't work unless people love the idea. 

So play their game cause nobody can stop it anyway.  Stay ahead of the curve.  Don't dump your coins for a few K, that's a joke, there's millions to be made.  That's why I tried to launch a Coin - it was a long term plan for me not a pump and dump - the real money will be made 12-36 months from now.  Hold all your coins.

Mark my words:  they will give the bitcoin their ETF license.  I laugh so hard when I see the pros saying its not possible.  The very idea is a mockery right now but watch how common place it will be like of course they knew it all along when they were actually literally laughing and mocking all of us like we're stupid children.  They have no clue what's coming down or what the end game is.  Make your millions and maybe you'll have time to get out to a safer place although I doubt it cause Europe, china, Canada, Mexico, they're all in on it.

When I think of bitcoins and alt coins this is what I think of (the big picture and there's more than this) this is why I'm a long term holder of alt coins and this is why I want to launch a solid and good coin cause I think the banks will pay top dollar for it.  But I need help, I need a couple really good programmers.  I will not stop I'll sell everything I own which I don't need like my sweet 93 F150 New Dealer Installed Engine truck to help make this happen.  When you look at everything the outcome is absolute. 

The timeframe is unknown but due to the fact the euro is nearly dead, the yen close to it abr the dollar has a few years left I think they'll orchestrate a massive, the biggest crash ever on September 14, 2015, trip on this, I only saw this after I calculated this date:  9/1415, add up the last 4 digits.  Shivers!  I had no idea until I chose that date on numerous historic and economic factors..  I know I'll get my phones bugged for this, but my parents risked their lives to tell the truth so I wanna stay true to that and if any of this comes to pass and if only a few of you benefit from it then it was well worth it.

So now when I talk about alt coins you all have an idea where I'm coming from and most of the above is pure facts with very little opinion - deny it if you want but I like to face facts head on.  You're all welcome for this lesson which if you see the big picture can help you make millions in a year, instead of a paltry $100K.  Do your own research but everything I've written is facts.  It's off the top of my head so if I'm off on a date or two, forgive me. And I'm telling you guys this to help you make more money, it helps me none cause it's better for me to have you guys mock me and dump all your coins thinking $3K is a sweet deal.  But I feel bad, like stealing from kids so at least now you know so if you pump and dump then it's all good.

Good luck everyone and God bless!
12931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 05:57:14 AM
Whoever controls the majority of the network (hashpower) can dictate any protocol changes they like, effectively causing a hard fork. With bitcoin in particular (SHA-256) that's currently not even very infeasible if you do the math, given enough resources. Think investing an ASIC design and plant.

Assuming whoever wants to control it has invested an enormous amount in mining infrastructure, or has the ability to cease all other miners ability to mine. Essentially the 51% attack which has been seen many times. DDOS the main pools, lower global hash rate, fire up miners and break it.


Thank you.  

It wouldn't hard for the govt to use all miners on the planet without you knowing it to use it as one massive cloud computer snd hijack and take over or crash and destroy any coin.  Afterall most miming rigs and ow since are online 24/7 unattended.  It would be easy for the govt to hack them all and use them for any purpose even hack and break any previously unbreakable  algos or urgent Chinese encryption.

 So much potential for the as sa a behind these seemingly games of Alt coins.  But the end game is much bigger than bashing power.  It's switching to a digital currency and for that the lasses have to lot digital money and there's only one way to do that:  give it away for free and make lots of people money.  

It's all digital anyway, it will get spent and put back in the economy and what isn't will be devalued and stolen back like gold in 1935.  It's win for the govt and lose for everyone else but if you know what's coming, you may win....for a short while c. Cause in the end there's no where to run.  Drones for everyone and implanted chips to know when and where you farted.

Ok.  Good night.  Thanks for the interesting Convo!
12932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 05:48:12 AM
Mark, can the govt take over bitcoin and with a hard fork get rid of all the secrecy?  TIA.

That depends on how they or whoever else define "bitcoin".

They could try to take over the trademark, define the word to mean whatever, have you read Orwell's "1984"?

The CIA could activate the alien implant they implanted in Gavin's brain, and those that he and they implanted in the brains of other core developers, to have what the public thinks is 'bitcoin' do whatever, maybe.

But so what? We can record the block number beyond which the blockchain is corrupted by alien implant suggestions and continue on using sneakernet, blocks might take a long time to arrive by sneakernet but maybe that would lower difficulty enough Rainman could compute them for us with paper and pencil.

Maybe I should buy shares in various aluminium companies, since maybe most people will be investing in tin thinking tinfoil hats are made out of tin? Hmm but wait, that maybe means I should expect tin to go up just from that powerful name, tinfoil, used for aluminum foil? Hmm...

-MarkM-

EDIT: OMG that is the plot! Only tin blocks the mind control rays, aluminium lets them pass or maybe even amplifies them! They make tinfoil hats with aluminium now to make them NOT WORK!

Lol. Come on man.  In theory.  If the govt wanted to take over bitcoin.  Could they use a hard fork to make bitcoin totally transparent.   Totally centralized.  No more pipe dream secrecy Cause I've read a hard fork can do all that yet people act like its behind the power of the CIA.  Which I think it's childish - it's a program and what one programmer can do another team of 0hD programmers can alter and undo.  That's how it works.  Bitcoin is not I breakable. It's just a program.  A hard fork can change it completely if a powerful entity like the US government chose to do so. Am I right or not?  Enlighten these people please.  Because I lack the know how and vocabulary.  Thanks.
12933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mass Market Appeal Coin - SantaCoin on: July 16, 2013, 05:39:45 AM
I think you missed the sarcasm. Or maybe me.
Anyway, Allahcoin did a much better job.

Now you're looking to start something.

I'm tired of getting kicked off my own threads so let's not.
12934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 05:21:09 AM
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I think you fail to realize exactly what crypto is, and how it completely devastates the existing monetary infrastructure. The individuals who you believe are going to adopt this currency, and enact new monetary policy, would never do so. By doing so, they will directly disrupt their own highly controlled, highly profitable, and immobile ecosystem. Right now they have profitability, and control, and do not need any other source of disruption to their income.

I do not know what 'top' school you went to, names are not everything. I highly suggest you go back to school and take a class on high technological innovation. look to the past and see what has worked, learn from the past and see what has failed.





Ahahhahahaaa ha.  


A nice hard fork and the gov turns your secure and secret a bitcoin into the dollar only they have full control.

Man, people are so naive.  A digital currency would give the banks and the govt full control over you and everyone.  A hard fork would change the most secure and secret alt coin into their open playground.

So I don't think you know how things work.  You think it's a coincidence bitcoin belongs to no one?  How hard would it be for the president to sign a directive order to hijack bitcoin in name of natnal security and do a hard fork to see what terrorists and drug dealers are doing. Oops, there goes your secretive coin.

Man, people are so naive.  They're gonna let it go secretly cause foolish people like you actually buy into it.  Then when they take it over every privacy you have left will be gone.  You'll pay taxes on the $5 you gave your son to mow your lawn.  Ahahhahahaaa.  Man, its hard to imagine people actually are so blind.

You don't know what a hard fork is, do you?

I know MarkM know better than you.

Mark, can the govt take over bitcoin and with a hard fork get rid of all the secrecy?  TIA.
12935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 05:18:25 AM
We're not at all laughing at cryptocurrencies. People who rally around here are not the ones who laughed at the concept of the internet. That would be Krugman and the like. We just think that expecting every one of the thousands of hastily planned shitcoins made in less than a week to generate bajillions of dollars by virtue of being called NewEnglandPatriotsCoin or SpidermanCoin is insane and to be frank, moronic.

Ever hear of pets.com?  Webvan.com?

Thousands of useless companies that never not one single day turned a single profit yet their values reached into the tens of billions.

And there were thousands or them and they had hundreds or millions and some billions of shares and liquidity and market makers.

The alt coin market has neither.  $1 billion alone would cause a sky rocket of most of all the slt coins out here simply becssue of lack of supply and serious lack of leuquidity.  It took me a full week to buy 120,000 ixCoin, a coin nobody wants and I moved my bid up 6 times.  Why?  No liquidity.  Can you imagine $1 billion and bankers who don't care, they want coins now cash they know in a week another $1 billion from hedge funds is gonna hit?  That's how bubbles are created snd the alt coin market, seeded by Bitcoin is prepped snd ready for a massive bubble that will be supported until people exchange their real cash for virtual cash and then it will crash and you're all gonna cry and ask:  why, why, how could this happen.

Answer:  greed, lack of foresight and human stupidity.

Now the government and the banks own you.  And there's no going back.  Why do you think all of a sudden all the gold bought snd sold had to be reported?  Cause they're gonna come for all the hard assets like they did in 1934, the only money you can have is virtual so they can have total control over you.
12936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 05:10:28 AM
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I think you fail to realize exactly what crypto is, and how it completely devastates the existing monetary infrastructure. The individuals who you believe are going to adopt this currency, and enact new monetary policy, would never do so. By doing so, they will directly disrupt their own highly controlled, highly profitable, and immobile ecosystem. Right now they have profitability, and control, and do not need any other source of disruption to their income.

I do not know what 'top' school you went to, names are not everything. I highly suggest you go back to school and take a class on high technological innovation. look to the past and see what has worked, learn from the past and see what has failed.




Ahahhahahaaa ha.  


A nice hard fork and the gov turns your secure and secret a bitcoin into the dollar only they have full control.

Man, people are so naive.  A digital currency would give the banks and the govt full control over you and everyone.  A hard fork would change the most secure and secret alt coin into their open playground.

So I don't think you know how things work.  You think it's a coincidence bitcoin belongs to no one?  How hard would it be for the president to sign a directive order to hijack bitcoin in name of natnal security and do a hard fork to see what terrorists and drug dealers are doing. Oops, there goes your secretive coin.

Man, people are so naive.  They're gonna let it go secretly cause foolish people like you actually buy into it.  Then when they take it over every privacy you have left will be gone.  You'll pay taxes on the $5 you gave your son to mow your lawn.  Ahahhahahaaa.  Man, its hard to imagine people actually are so blind.
12937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 05:03:12 AM
Gotta go.  Kids are calling.  Sorry to waste you time.  I'm sure 90% of you are laughing your asses off at this.  I know, o was doing the same thing when the Internet thing came around.  It was the dumbest thing.   No profits, no real business plans, no real products to sell, no store fronts, you want people to buy off the net without ever seeing the goods they buy, you want people to give you their cards over the Internet, 90% of the people don't know how to use the Internet, the interest is only for drugs and prostitution, the Internet crashes all the time and its only 12K, nobody will ever use it.


Now it's happening all over again.  Watch and learn folks only now its gonna happen 10 times faster cause fiat money needs no stores, no business plans, no products, no sales force and no market cap, future cash flows or market caps to worry about, so the potential is 10 times greater than the Internet era and it will happen much faster cause it is 100% digital - 100% the speed of light.
12938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 04:57:48 AM
I0Coin is IXcoin with 0 (zero) pre-mine, supposedly.

Litecoin is tenebrix/fairbrix updated to be based on bitcoin code instead of multicoin code.

Tenebrix had 7 million pre-mine to allow a massive massive super-laundry for laundering (mixing) coins. Fairbrix is Tenebrix without the pre-mine.

-MarkM-


I0oin died (and bankers don't want a coin with I and zero in it, ixCoin never died even though it should have.  Look for things that should have been but for reason it beat all odds.  This is how I predicted Obama would win both elections when most thought no way.

Also, ixCoin has a fully intact block chain, also a small miracle.  The founder came back out of the blue.  It's being accumulated heavily -(in part by me, I own almost 1 %).  IxCoin is also 9Coin.   There's historic statistical data behind the numbers 3,5,7,9, 12, 49 and their derivatives, that's just a plus.

There's more than this but you add them all together snd when way too many of these fit together then that's a huge sign.

I'm a banker and if I'm looking to sell the next bitcoin ETF then the best coin is ixCoin cause its been around from the beginning, it's never died, the premine is jack, it's done snd gone, the premine money is gone, and the founder is back, its a perfect clone only more liquidity as a much faster block chain and even the founders name is a copy of Satoshi.  I mean, that's an ETF Pipe DREAM if Bitcoin indeed makes it with its own ETF.

I think there's a difference between betting on the presidential race, where there's two choices that seem to always come out within a few percentages of each other, and then betting on a terrible coin on the basis that it's terrible.

The first time I chose Obama there were over 12 candidates.  He didn't even have 2% backing at the time and was squab,Inge with some old white dude in the parking lot of som grocery store about some stupid stuff.  He was nobody at the time.   But yeah, even 1 in 12 big deal.

There's many more examples.  Just look for trends and there are numbers acting like footprints.  It's odd.  Bankers want digital money more than anything.  The best thing alt coins have going for the is that the state and the banks are behind them.  

Once in a lifetime opportunity.  This can't fail.  Buy coins, sore them, don't sell them.  Just wait for the bitcoin ETF and them give it 2-3 months and prove me wrong.  It won't be much longer, the govt will fast forward it thru as fast as possible.  NFC is ready, ASICS are ready, the network is almost ready, everything is in place. It's gonna start very soon and I think the ETF Will be the spark.
12939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 04:47:18 AM
They have the money to buy up any coin.  They spend $10 million or even. $50 million and buy a well known coin with history and from the "inventors".  That's how it worlks.  Nobody buys into an ETF for a coin that just popped up last week.  That's ridiculous.   That's why I was rushing to start a coin cause the older coins will be worth more, also the ones with the biggest followers or a story, a unique story, which is why I like devcoin.

Don't bankers care about security anymore?

Are they going to deploy massive GPU farms to try to secure scrypt based coins, or merged mine with ASIC farms to secure all the chains they create ETFs for?

Remember a secure chain needs to have at least double the hashing power that the entire rest of the world can muster, so that even if everyone who is not mining it attacked it the attack would still fail...

-MarkM-


You know more than me about this but it doesn't seem PPcoin needs any of that.

Edit:

Or how a out china and India hashing away as $2 per day is good pay.  You think half the planet hashing away 24/7 is enough security. 

I don't know the answer but its not a problem that can't be resolved rather quickly.

The real obstacle is to get people to love digital money so much that they'll willingly forfeit their real money for fake money and do it happily.  And that's the the Bitcoin carrot Andorra markets will do the rest.

We have max 2-3 years to make real money so let's work together cause once the objective is met they'll find an excuse to kill all alt coins.  Maybe some asshole terrorist will use bitcoins to buy a bomb.  Who knows.  Something stupid - but grantee they will kill all crypto-coins.

Make money now and get out but work tether and make killer coins and make way more knew when the bankers come in.  That's what I tried but I couldn't implement all my features cause I couldn't find a real programmer. 

Good luck.
12940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 16, 2013, 04:46:17 AM
Gotta put my kids to bed.  I'm pretty sure 95% here think what I'm saying is nonsense so I will not waste anymore time saying it.  Just feels wrong to see something big coming and not say something. I feel an obligation to say something but it's hard as most usually mock what they don't understand.

It's very hard for me to say these things as rarely does anyone understand or appreciate it but I feel so compelled to speak up that it hurts if I don't.

Good luck to everyone.
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