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12921  Economy / Economics / Re: How Long Crypto market will take to recover? on: August 13, 2018, 05:10:25 AM
It is very hard to predict when the market will come back. Maybe after a few months, maybe after a few years. As long as there is chance for market to come back, I will continue holding my coins. I hope that day will come soon. And I believe it will finally come back.
Because no one will know about the future, we can only predict and analyze and it will not happen correctly. With the fall of the market this year it would be better to keep holding back if you still believe in crypto's good future, but I don't think it would be a problem if you want to sell it because of concerns about crypto's future.
12922  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's next for bit coin ? on: August 13, 2018, 03:22:59 AM
Better if you buy more bitcoin now and you will earn a lot of profit. But in reality we don't know what is the next of the bitcoin if the price are goingto down or to pump depends to us.
There will be a need to more good news and acceptance by many countries before it pumps again. Like what happened last year, today there are things that considered in crypto that makes it complicated to pump.
Losing a lot of confidence in the crypto market will make it even harder to pump again in the near future. But if the ETF goes back well, I'm sure the market will recover soon. I have also read several articles that say this decline was due to something like that. There is no need to rush to buy for situations like this, because I personally believe prices will still go down again, if buying too fast it will only make you panic and worry, so wait until there is good news someday.
12923  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin Worth To Be Currency? on: August 13, 2018, 02:00:08 AM
Currency must have a physical form and bitcoin also has the physical form of coins that I have seen on youtube or other social media etc. By having a physical form, I think bitcoin is indeed worthy of being a currency, but here bitcoin doesn't have a center or no one can manage it. If the currency generally has a center in banking that is supervised by the local government, then what about bitcoin. If there is a government that can handle this on bitcoin, it is likely that bitcoin will become the future money.
12924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 11, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Do you guys see this:
So now this contest is sponsored by cloudbet, really?
I think it's different and I send the entrance fee again Cheesy do I have to ask it to be returned or how? Roll Eyes
I didn't get any response, if it can't be returned it doesn't matter to me. I just want to know what your response is.

This is the first txid : 6ea79c14b426ab31578423ce4d160684d2f667af2ad3e86cbdda96d82a22a27a
and this is the second : 0af96fa56c58880f50c96fe21d245ed0b5362ec0d546b2c33b22d8eef191ffb4

That happened because I saw this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4863740.0
I think it's different from this one, and I want to participate in both but it turns out that it's the same Pool.

because at first the title of this thread is different, but after I see it again it has changed and both are the same.
12925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Protect your #crypto from being stolen because of phishing. on: August 11, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
A good guide, so far I have always been cautious in accessing websites etc., because we know that in the internet world all bad things are likely to happen quickly, regardless of how hackers cheating users, then always pay attention to websites that we usually visit, especially on the link, because phishing victims are always not careful and not careful in entering or accessing a website or link they visit.
12926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To quit gambling is to quit yourself on: August 11, 2018, 08:05:42 AM
Gambling is a addiction bad addiction. Few days ago I see a user lost 65BTC and another user 30BTC amd another user 12BTC in a dice site. All those user lost huge huge within 24 hours.

But even if we say that it is a bad addiction, a lot of people are still gambling despite the fact that it will really bring you down to the pit. Regret and depression is one of the most popular effect of gambling to people.

Also, these gambler might be rich so they have nothing to worry about those losses. We don't know what they are thinking losing that great amount to the site but all we know is that they had lost and it is hard to get that back.
Because people are usually rich from gambling, in the end the wealth will also run out in gambling, which is why they continue to gamble despite losing a large amount. Unlike the case if you are only looking for targets in gambling, if you are able to control emotions then after you reach the target you will stop, but if your emotions increase and cannot be controlled then you will become a gambling addict too.
12927  Economy / Economics / Re: Why spend time in bitcoins? on: August 11, 2018, 04:51:30 AM
In my opinion, bitcoin can make people get a lot of profit if done in the right way and time. I spend my time on bitcoin because I don't know its value every day and it doesn't waste it on me. I am interested in spending time in crypto. not only for money, but only to be involved in this. I am sure that crypto is the future for financial relations between people .
Yes, if you can use your time well in the crypto world, not only will you get the money, you can also add insight here, because broad insight will make it easier for you to get something good than before. But there are also many who are only to earn income in bitcoin, because how ever we know bitcoin has good value now even though the price is falling.
12928  Economy / Marketplace / Re: "Bitcoin mining is a Big no!" on: August 11, 2018, 02:40:57 AM
Bitcoin mining is not profitable these days unless you have a mining farm. You will have to spend and invest much more than you will profit. Despite that there are still few enthusiasts that beleive mining will bring them profit.
On the other hand cloud mining is mostly scam and something it should be avoided unless you don't want to lose your money.
The clear conclusion is that individual mining belongs to sone past times and that you have to choose some other investment type.

That is true and for you to have a profit you should better mine other cryptocurrency for instance EthereumClassic, Pirl, Metaverse and Ethereum are still viable for GPU mining. And unless the market goes in an uptrend and bulls mining will not be the profitable specially the prices if hardware like GPUs are starting to decline due to demand.
Yes, because if you want to mine bitcoin that is profitable, then you have to have a lot of mining equipment and also a large place etc., of course this can only be done by wealthy people who are able to fund it all well. Although there are other alternatives to mining such as in an application or through multiple GPUs or also cloud mining which is mostly just a scam, I think it's still very lacking and won't be profitable. Maybe mining alts can still be done that way but still we have to prepare a lot of things to be able to benefit from the simple mining.
12929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck on: August 10, 2018, 10:55:20 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Again, in addition to strategy and luck the main thing that must be had in gambling is experience, if you have all that then you will be more relaxed to play gambling, because emotions when gambling is very volatile Cheesy if you cannot control emotions well then you will play messed up and you can lose. To be able to control emotions well is enough experience. Good luck!
12930  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to invest bitcoins on: August 10, 2018, 10:14:13 PM
There are two main streams to invest Bitcoin if one wishes. One option is good ICO projects usually with high success rates and the second option is altcoins. Altcoins can be used for earning some profit while having investments short term.

If you have a lot of Bitcoins, you can invest the cryptocurrency in real estate - some people have already done it. I would not recommend dealing with ICOs now as it is risky. I have heard some universities take BTC as the payment for education.
I think it is not recommended to invest in ICO, I personally have experienced it myself and I did it based on the recommendation of someone who is quite famous or has a good reputation here, at first I was never interested in ICO and after investing it and waiting for a few months and incurred events happens, the token is not worth it and has a very low price, but somehow I won't sell it before they can increase. It would be better to invest in altcoins that clearly have a reputation and a big supporter in the market, so you will still remain calm even though the market is falling.
12931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 10, 2018, 09:28:20 PM
So now this contest is sponsored by cloudbet, really?
I think it's different and I send the entrance fee again Cheesy do I have to ask it to be returned or how? Roll Eyes
12932  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool 0.005 to join Prize Pot @ 0.21 on: August 10, 2018, 09:08:48 PM
Wow, there are lots of contests going on now, let me go in here too.
Will send entry fees and PM tx ID asap!
12933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin again 6k$..... on: August 10, 2018, 08:59:11 PM
The price is based on supply and demand so obviously the value will be always volatile and that is the reason why we should just hold our coins and do not sell it immediately.
It has always been based on the law of supply and demand but also the law of supply and demand is affected with the market trends because there are people who decides to sell due to certain reasons like sudden Government regulation, that will affect the price and force the it to go down, but if a group of people buys the coins because the price is low, then it will create a sudden demand which will help the price to go up.
yes supply and demand depend on market movements, with the many negative issues that occur also will make the market tend to experience a significant decline, but eventually the market will recover with the return of investors buying bitcoin which makes the market rise again. Before entering this August I feel this month will be a market recovery because at the end of last month the market has increased again but it happened only a few moments and until now we are back to keep holding back because the market is red again.
12934  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and Economy on: August 10, 2018, 08:05:37 PM
We all know that the development of a certain country comes from the taxes of its citizens, and we all know people who engage bitcoin don't pay taxes to the government, what will happen to a country where 80% of its citizens engage in cryptocurrency?

There is a big possibility that this things might happen In the future because bitcoin is growing faster and very known today.
Because bitcoin is still not legalized and in my opinion that is what makes bitcoin users not pay taxes, if the government can legalize bitcoin, then a country's economic growth will also increase, because the growth of bitcoin can also increase well if the government legalizes it with another intention the government will support bitcoin. If they are aligned, then the growth of both will also be even better.
12935  Economy / Economics / Re: I almost lost my rock solid regular job because of crypto on: August 09, 2018, 02:30:04 PM
Like the title says, i almost lost my regular job as a software developer today when my boss reviewed my work. The job has been able to economically provide a comfortable life for me and losing it would really be a big hit to my income. I almost lost it because i spent so much time learning about everything crypto (mining, trading, bounties, etc.).

Has anyone else experienced this? I just feel pretty lucky I was given another chance and want to remind other people that having a regular job is much better than relying on the volatility of cryptocurrencies. Make sure you prioritize your work!

But at least you understand or have basic software and hardware well from your full time job, in the crypto world it is very necessary, so you can develop it to be better at crypto by mining etc. Crypto world is not 100% promising someone will be successful, but if you are equipped with good knowledge and experience, then I think you can use it to get a good income in the crypto world. Yes, to leave work full time because crypto is not recommended and there are still many out there who do that. Think ahead before taking action.
12936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I continue hodl my Bitcoin? on: August 09, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
I bought some bitcoin in March 2017, sell half of it in Dec 2017 and hodl the other half since then. The current downward trend seem to last for a very long time and I'm quite upset about it. What do you guys think? Should I hodl or sell all my BTC now?
You have sold it in part at that time and it would be better to keep hodl it, be patient to wait for the market to recover well in the future, but if you are sure you can buy some alts or tokens that have high potential in the near future. That way you can still take advantage of them if you are sure.
12937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Effects of Gambling on: August 09, 2018, 08:00:51 AM
I hate the effects of losing an all in bet, after I lose all my money, my whole body are shaking and it is so weakened, it will last half a day and tomorrow deposit again and try my luck
Its mean that you have become addicted which compel you to play again and again. Now doubt that once you become addicted to gambling then you find it hard to stop playing gambling but I think that if you will make a strategy and play gambling according to it, at least it will prevent you from a big long.

and he needs to learn about controlling his emotion and quit gambling as soon as possible because his body is rejected if he loses the money. I think he doesn't have a chance to win the games especially if he doesn't have a luck because, in any gambling games, the luck factor is the most thing that you should have besides of strategy, controlling emotion, and other else. so I think he has an experience in gambling especially when he loses his money and it is a sign for him to leave the gambling games.
Because it is the effect of gambling, one cannot immediately leave gambling after experiencing a huge of loss. I've also experienced the same thing. But after everything has passed or after experiencing a big loss and return to gambling normally like controlling emotions well, then slowly you can play relaxed or just for pleasure, behind it to cover the emotions of the soul that increases. A big loss in gambling will not make a person stop gambling, he will come back and try to take back what has been lost even though we know it is very difficult and can not be said that it can be achieved quickly.
12938  Economy / Economics / Re: The HODL strategy is not actual on: August 08, 2018, 10:16:01 PM
It can be said that this year's hold is ineffective, this is due to the negative effect of news that makes the user doubt the future bitcoin and make the price of day by day continues to decline.
Hodl when the market is dipped or this year we should have done it if you still want to make a profit in the future. You say hodling this year isn't effective? How did it happen? if you sell it at this time then it is more ineffective, so I think hodl in this year and it should be done and if you panic at the market right now, maybe you will regret it in the future.
12939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sometimes enough is enough on: August 08, 2018, 08:58:27 PM
If I have accomplish my winning goal, it is enough for me. Don't need to risk anymore, if you have given a luck to win then it is enough, don't be a greedy it will make you lose all your money
Leaving gambling will be very difficult if you are still at the gambling table and again you are in a winning position, different from online gambling. Even though you have reached your goal in gambling, but in gambling your emotions will change and be difficult to control. But if you have a strong personality and are not easily affected, then chances are you can control your emotions well.
12940  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [SCAM] Okex is a SCAM on: August 08, 2018, 07:24:53 PM
I was previously planning to use their services before because I had some coins that I can sell to Okex. Since I do not know if I can trust their service I tried to find reviews here in the forum and found that some their reviews telling that Okex is scam and some of them telling that Okex is not a scam so I decided to do not use their service because there are many complaints about their services.

I can only advise you to try to contact them and wait for their response. If you do not receive a reply make a new thread on scam accusation to let others know that Okex is a scam with proof.

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You need to do some proper investigation before depositing coins because few months back I also have few issues and its take too much time for resolving every time they are facing technical issues and taking too much time to solving this even support take too much time to send replies
But @BitMaxz has investigated before using it and it is the right and proper action to imitate, with the opposition in the opinion of everyone who says a scam or not, then we can conclude if the service or whatever has a problem and we do not have to use it. If that happens then it would be better to look for other alternatives or wait until the token is registered in a famous exchange in the cryptocurrency world, because that's what I applied so far.
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