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1301  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: U susret Bitcoin halvingu on: June 16, 2023, 06:41:47 AM
/snip

Plemeniti metali možda. Nekretnina? Postavja se pitanje porijekla novca...
Nekretnina mi se nekako cini kao najsigurniji ulog, samo je problem sto su cijene (makar ovdje, ne znam kako je u BiH) otisle u nebo tako da ce u slicjau da bitcoin ode an 100k trebati prodati njih par za ista solidnije. Meni je prvi izbor zlato ako cijena ne ode dovoljno visoko za nekretnine.


Slažem se da su nekretnine dobar, možda i najbolji izbor. Ali tu postoje dva problema. Prvi je da su cijene u zadnjih par godina stvarno otišle u nebo pa bi se i taj balon mogao ispuhati kao što je bilo tamo nakon 2008. godine. Drugi (možda i važniji problem) je dokazivanje porijekla prodanog BTC-a. Porezna jedva čeka da netko tko zarađuje 500-1000 eura mjesečno kupi nekretninu za gotovinu pa da malo pročešljaju financije.

Ja opet ponavljam da nemam ništa protiv plaćanja čak i 10-15% poreza ako bi to značilo da ću imati čist novac. Ali onda se opet vraćamo na FIFO koji je jednostavno nemoguće napraviti... Ne želim da se ovaj thread pretvori u raspravu u FIFO evidenciji ali mislim da je to trenutno jedna od najvećih prepreka u plaćanju poreza na zaradu od ulaganja u kriptovalute.

@BitGoba: Ovo što si napisao ima smisla. Ali isto tako je činjenica da Bitcoinu cijena dosta varira pa ipak mislim da je bolje u/pri vrhu bull runa prebaciti barem dio BTC-a u nešto drugo. Problem je što je teško pronaći to nešto drugo jer fiat samo pada, nekretnine uz to što im je cijena jako narasla imaju probleme koje si i sam naveo, zlato ima svoje probleme ali opet manje nego nekretnine (ali mu je cijena trenutno na ATH)...
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: June 16, 2023, 06:21:15 AM
I think we can really see Modric in the squad as long as Croatia make it to the main tournament. There is no title achieved by Croatia in Euro tournaments yet and maybe Modric would like to be in one last dance for the championship. No matter the result of Euro 2024 would be Modric can be retired from the national team right after that.

This is all an assumption depending on his still being quite competitive in matches. He was the man of the match last night in my opinion. He was able to last for 119 minutes which is the whole match in the end. Moreover he got one goal and an assist also. Even much younger players can't do this easily at this level.

According to my assumption he would retire from national team and his whole football career at the same time.

I think that he left the whole football world in awe after the match against the Netherlands. A reporter from Netherlands even asked him to show some ID to prove that he is 37 years old Grin It was a joke, but in reality I think that the only thing that could stop him from playing in the Euro 2024 is some serious injury that would probably end his career given his age.

OK guys... finally after a three month long wait, we are back to action. These are the matches that are scheduled for today (16th June 2023):

1. Gibraltar vs France
2. Republic of Ireland vs Greece
3. Malta vs England
4. North Macedonia vs Ukraine
5. Latvia vs Turkey
6. Wales vs Armenia
7. Finland vs Slovenia
8. Northern Ireland vs Danmark
9. Kazakhstan vs San Marino
10. Switzerland vs Andorra
11. Belarus vs Israel
12. Kosovo vs Romania

A dozen or so matches are scheduled to be played for tomorrow as well, but for now we will focus on today's matches. The most exciting one is obviously the match between Republic of Ireland and Greece. The one between North Macedonia and Ukraine should be close as well.

As for today's qualification games, I don't see any particularly interesting games to watch. In all games big favorites play against big underdogs.
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 16, 2023, 06:15:49 AM
Well... After not watching the Croatia - Netherlands game and after watching yesterday's excruciatingly boring game between Spain and Italy, I must say that I understand why the UEFA Nations League is considered as a little more than a friendly tournament. I must admit that I watched the first 60 minutes or so, but it was boring as f*ck so I went to put my kids to sleep. That was much more interesting than the game Grin

But I see that Spain winning against Italy got me to a 2-2 score against Darxiaomi so I'm still happy. To me it looks like Croatian players have the biggest desire to win the title. At least it is bigger than with Italy and Spain players.
1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 15, 2023, 12:31:45 PM
Vegas Golden Knight rssult is win over 4.5 goals scoring. Or under?!!

You can easily check out the result simply by googling it: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/panthers-golden-knights-score-updates-highlights-stanley-cup-game-5/iidvr3peft65igo5lct8otpn

As you can see, the last game result was 8-3 so over 4.5 goals. Unfortunately for me because I went with under.
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: June 15, 2023, 11:11:19 AM
I am not Croatian, but I watched Netherlands and Croatia play yesterday. I am not very sure about Livakovic, but for Petkovic who came on for Josip Sutalo in the 91'st minute and scored a third goal for Croatia in the 98'th minute of the game with a good strike as expected of a striker to score, International clubs will come for him if he can have another great performance, scoring again for Croatia in the finals. Many top clubs are in need of a striker, clubs like Chelsea, Manchester United, Real Madrid, Arsenal and others, their scouts must have noticed him and monitoring his progress.

Petkovic could be a great striker, but he needs more will to play. Often on the pitch it looks like he's had enough of everything and doesn't try to create a chance at all, but just waits for the chance to score a goal to appear on its own. If he had tried more in the earlier period of his career, he would probably already be in a big club.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 15, 2023, 06:33:22 AM
Other than a shitty first 30 minutes or so we really played well - it is a fully deserved win.
Netherlands disappointed me again, they have a tendency to do that recently.

Petković with another masterclass cameo, shame the guy is so lazy - he could have had a much better career.

Let's see what today brings us, I hope it's Italy.

Why did you go with Spain in the third question if you hope it will be Italy that wins? Or is it just you hoping for Italy, but in reality you know that Spain is a better team?
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga 2022./2023. on: June 15, 2023, 06:27:57 AM
I didn't say that the new sports director Simic is doing a bad job because of the expected departure of Livakovic and Petkovic, but because he does not bring in new players who could replace them.
As I have already said, Dinamo dominance in the Croatian league will continue, but Dinamo does not survive financially from the Croatian league but from appearances in European Club competitions.
If Dinamo doesn't have a team that will be competitive in Europe, then their European journey will quickly end and the club will be left without the expected income.
UEFA held the first draw for European club competitions, and when I see the possible opponents that Hajduk, Rijeka and Osijek could get already in the third preliminary round of the Conference League, our clubs have almost no chance of advancing to the group stage of the competition. Again, only Dinamo will have a chance for such success, but first they will have to strengthen the team.


There is still time to sign some big names, but I agree that there is no information about them in the media. Maybe Dinamo's new management wants to keep signings a secret until they are done. We all are used to how the former management did their job where Mamić was very loud and spectacular about everything. I really hope that there will be some big names signing for Dinamo this summer.
1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: June 15, 2023, 06:23:08 AM
I have one question that may sound stupid, but I still don't get the thing about the winner of the UEFA Nations league. Now that Croatia is in the finals and Spain or Italy joining them after today's game, what happens with their qualifications? Does the UEFA Nations League winner still play qualification games even though it will be qualified for the EURO2024?
1309  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin VISA gift card i cash back servis on: June 15, 2023, 06:06:33 AM
Ne ja kad sam testirao  platio 10 USD i dobio 10 USD jedino sto  za svaku transakciju skida 2 USD plus 0.5%
osim ako nije bilo nekih promjena jer vidim sada da je  cashback  za Visu 1.5%

Bitrefill isto ima bez KYC mastercard punise do 50 EUR maksimalno jedino se ne moze dodati na Apple ili  Google Pay

Evo moj reff ako nekog zanima dobijamo oba po 5 usd nakon sto potrosite na gift kartice 50
https://www.bitrefill.com/signup?code=mccgxg5w

Ma da ali ja nisam gledao The Bitcoin Company karticu nego FCFPay tako da je normalno da je različito od onoga što si ti napisao.

Što se tiče Bitrefill, pa gdje onda možeš koristiti tu karticu ako imaju samo virtualnu, a ne možeš ju dodati u Apple ili Google Pay? Meni nije problem ako nema fizičke kartice, ali u tom slučaju bi trebalo virtualnu karticu moći dodati za mobilno plaćanje na POS-ovima jer inače nema smisla.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 15, 2023, 06:02:32 AM
I'm so sad that I didn't get to watch the Netherlands vs. Croatia game yesterday. From what I read it was an interesting game to watch even though it was a "friendly". I guess in this stage every nation wants a title. Btw, I wanted to watch the highlights and I'm not sure if I'm stupid or what, but YouTube is full of highlights recorded on a Playstation. I even saw one video with Bandicam logo on it... Where do you guys watch the highlights?

As for our competition, I didn't start good. Darxiaomi got a head start with first answer correct. Too bad he was one of few who went with Croatia to qualify for the final. However if Spain wins tonight like it should, maybe I have a chance to turn the score around.
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 14, 2023, 09:18:40 AM
Same reason bro.

I've been wanting to ask this; why is Crotia with limited talents compared to England always doing much better than them at international level? I don't get.

I wouldn't say that Croatia has players with limited talent. Maybe the reason why England's players are considered as more talented is because they come from England whose national league is considered as one of the best. Croatian national league is trash compared to the top European leagues. Maybe that's why Croatian players are never considered as stars. But majority of our national team players play in the top 5 European leagues and most of them are standard players in their clubs.

Additionally the Croatian mentality is a funny thing. One time they are all the best players and then one bad game happens and all national team members are trash. But I think that our mentality is one of the reasons why we usually play best against the strongest teams.
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 14, 2023, 07:25:26 AM
Now I can talk about it so here it goes. We (Croatia) after getting good result have mentality of we are the best in the world result will come by itself and play like shit. On the other hand rest of the world and especially big football countries see us as a top team that that is 3rd in the world and have no problem at motivating themselves for a win against us. Then add the fact that we are always bad in this time slot at season end and we are playing without Guardiol our best defender. Last time we played nations league game after getting 3rd place in the world, it was Spain and we lost 6:0. I won a shitload of money on that game and plan to do the same here.

And if it is not enough, Netherlands are playing at home.

I have only one thing that goes in our favor, this is play off and we are always good in important matches. If this was regular group stage match I am sure we would have lost with at least 3 goals difference but since it is important maybe we can pull together.

I knew that someone would burst my bubbles about today's game. Now that I read your post I can only agree with you. However I really hope that we will win today so that we get silver at worst just because it might be the last competition with Modrić in the national team. I know that he said he will play for the national team for as long as the team needs him, but he can't go against his age and soon he won't be able to play at the highest level. I would rather not see him in the national team than to see him playing just because he is Modrić.
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: June 14, 2023, 06:50:32 AM
If eventually Croatia, his figure is undoubtedly Modric, perhaps because he is in one of the most influential teams in the world such as Real Madrid, in addition to having won a controversial ballon d'or, when everyone expected the winner to be someone else, he came out In addition, Modric must be recognized that he gave everything in the World Cup in Qatar, he played with his heart and that is something that the whole world saw, those are the things that make him great, however, as you say, it may be that It will be his last time with the Croatian team, but I would never leave Modric, I would only let him go when he wants to retire, because a player like that always has to be kept.

/snip

I agree that Modrić should stay with Croatia for as long as he wants to be. And I'm sure that Dalić will never kick him out of the national team. Everyone in Croatia knows how much Modrić has given to the national team. I just watched his interview on TV where he said that he will be at disposal to the national team for as long as he thinks the national team needs him.
1314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 14, 2023, 06:06:26 AM
I just took another look at the spreadsheet and it happens to be only trofo who went for Netherlands, Slokovic went for Crotia and cryptofrka details are hidden in the spreadsheet I admit I exergerate the whole thing, I've been drinking a lot of beer lately and it sometimes smokes out my brain.

It's good to make another bet with you; I lost the last one and am hoping to win this one.

/snip

Wow! Most of you went with Netherlands to qualify for the finals. Being from Croatia I couldn't help myself to go with Croatia. It won't cost me anything if I answer it wrong because my opponent answered the same as me. But what surprised me more is that few people answered that Italy will beat Spain. I know that Italy is on a rise and yesterday Olmo got injured yesterday, but I still think that Spain is a much better team. I was sure that everyone would go with Spain.
1315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 13, 2023, 01:21:42 PM
yeah, there is nothing special that can happen to influence answers at this point
nevertheless, I will send my answers on usual time, simply there is no time to do it earlier

we are getting into summer, and questions about Nations league, but handball is a nice addition to questions, not sure but I think this is a first time to see handball questions?
there is some volleyball as well, playing world league, maybe that is worth adding as well

Man you scared me. I saw you mentioning volleyball and I didn't remember any question about it so at first I thought that I misread something and put wrong answer. Then I read the post again and I see that you are actually suggesting that volleyball should be included in the next week. I agree.

I really hope that this week won't be my first loss because I'm following national football competitions. I will be really pissed at myself if I lose this week.
1316  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin VISA gift card i cash back servis on: June 13, 2023, 06:57:43 AM
Ovo je vrlo zanimljiva tema... Malo sam sad gledao FCFPay virtualne kartice i piše da se čak mogu koristiti na POS uređajima ako ih se doda u mobitel kao način bezkontaktnog plaćanja. Svejedno mi nije jasno kako netko može izdati VISA karticu na ime Wild E Coyote i VISA nema ništa protiv toga. Slažem se da za manju količinu novca nije loš izbor iako je fee dosta velik - $6 za kreiranje kartice i još 4% za uplatu love na karticu. Valjda idu na to da ako netko stvarno treba karticu, a želi ostati anoniman, mora platiti.

Jedini problem je što kartice ne podržavaju 3DS Secure što neki trgovci traže pa se tamo kartica na može koristiti.
1317  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Robosats P2P Bitcoin trgovanje on: June 13, 2023, 06:21:55 AM
Kako je BitGoba opisao u ovoj temi, ako imaš Muun wallet ili Wallet of Satoshi, isti saldo možeš trošiti on-chain i off-chain. Drugim riječima, možeš plačati ili preko LN mreže ili slati standardne BTC transakcije.
Kod drugih novčanika koji nemaju tu mogućnost to nećeš moći.

Sve zavisi da li dućan u kojem kupuješ prima BTC preko LN mreže ili ne. LN mreža nema standardne adrese kakve koristimo on-chain. Na LN mreži plačaš pomoću Lightning Invoice-a. Ili moraš kopirati i zaljepiti invoice ili skenirati QR kod. Ako ti dućan na raspolaganje stavi samo običnu BTC adresu, onda tu ne možeš slati LN BTC.

Evo kako izgleda jedan LN invoice:
Code:
lnbc20m1pvjluezpp5qqqsyqcyq5rqwzqfqqqsyqcyq5rqwzqfqqqsyqcyq5rqwzqfqypqhp58yjmdan79s6qqdhdzgynm4zwqd5d7xmw5fk98klysy043l2ahrqsfpp3qjmp7lwpagxun9pygexvgpjdc4jdj85fr9yq20q82gphp2nflc7jtzrcazrra7wwgzxqc8u7754cdlpfrmccae92qgzqvzq2ps8pqqqqqqpqqqqq9qqqvpeuqafqxu92d8lr6fvg0r5gv0heeeqgcrqlnm6jhphu9y00rrhy4grqszsvpcgpy9qqqqqqgqqqqq7qqzqj9n4evl6mr5aj9f58zp6fyjzup6ywn3x6sk8akg5v4tgn2q8g4fhx05wf6juaxu9760yp46454gpg5mtzgerlzezqcqvjnhjh8z3g2qqdhhwkj
Izvor

Znači ako sam dobro shvatio, Ligtning Network je za Bitcoin nešto kao Arbitrum prema Ethereumu - neka vrsta L2 rješenja napravljena za brže i jeftinije transakcije.
1318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 13, 2023, 06:16:00 AM
Since there are no tennis questions this week, I decided to give my answers earlier than usual. I hope there won't be any surprises today. That F1 question gave me the biggest trouble. I have no idea about that sport because I don't find it attractive to watch. I went with few domestic drivers who I hope will try harder in their homeland. With other pairs I just went with random selection because I didn't know how to do the research.

Btw, Trofo I didn't know that you are covering our competition for Sportsbet website. It's nice to see my name on the same website as the CL news. Now I know how it is to be a football star when everyone writes about you Grin haha
1319  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Robosats P2P Bitcoin trgovanje on: June 12, 2023, 08:42:38 AM
BTC onchain transakcije nisu skupe narocito ako se koristi noviji format adresa mada u zadnje vrijeme kako su uveli NFT i tokene na Bitcoin blokcejn je dosta skuplje nego ranije ,ima dosta transakcija na cekanju ako zelis da prodje brze moras da malo vise platis

Evo ja sam juce testirao ovaj servis na kome se mogu Bitcoinom kupiti gift kartice  o kome sam pisao na drugoj temi i posalao sam sebi 25 usd BTC onchain na moj Wallet of Satoshi i onchain transakcija me je izasla 3 usd
i odmah sam upao u prvom bloku kasnije LN transakcije su mozda kostale skroz nesto sitno  100 ili 200 satosija


A čuj... Plaćanje transakcije 3 USD nije skupo ako se šalje više BTC. Ali za slanje tvojih 25 USD cijena transakcija od 3 USD je stvarno puno (preko 10%). Znam da je to bilo samo testiranje i da transakcija košta koliko košta neovisno o iznosu koji se šalje. Zato je dobro koristiti LN za takva sitna plaćanja, a za veće iznose ipak koristiti Bitcoin mrežu.

Jedno pitanje pošto nisam baš "na ti" s Ligtning mrežom. Ako nekome (npr. u dućanu koji prima BTC) želim platiti 10 dolara, mogu li to platiti s LN walleta neovisno je li adresa koju sam dobio u dućanu LN wallet ili klasični BTC wallet? Ima li za mene kao osobe koja kupuje špeceraj u dućanu ikakve razlike?
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: June 12, 2023, 08:08:33 AM
Oh, wow... darxiaomi we meet again, only this time in the "big league" Grin Good luck!

You guys (Trofo and cryptofrka) really like to complicate your life, don't you? I'm referring to the question 9 where you will really have to pay a lot of attention to get all points correctly.
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