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1301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 03:43:14 AM
Can more people please come join us at LotteryPool?  We have a weekly lottery from half the pool fees, which are only 1% so effectively 0.5% pool fees with the fun of a lottery to look forward to.

The owner has upgraded to a faster/more reliable server and I haven't seen any down time yet!  It's working smooth as silk ATM, so come join us!!!  The more people we have, the larger the lotto pool/winning and the funner it is to mine!!!!


The pool is great, however people are most likely hesitant of any sort of lottery. They see it akin to snake oil - one is more likely to die in a plane crash than hit the jackpot.

Not to say that the pool in question isn't fair, but perhaps if it were explained in a more pragmatic manner I would consider joining.

Thanks.

It's really just for fun, and the fee is the same as it is for any other pool, so nothing to lose Smiley
1302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 03:13:30 AM
Can more people please come join us at LotteryPool?  We have a weekly lottery from half the pool fees, which are only 1% so effectively 0.5% pool fees with the fun of a lottery to look forward to.

The owner has upgraded to a faster/more reliable server and I haven't seen any down time yet!  It's working smooth as silk ATM, so come join us!!!  The more people we have, the larger the lotto pool/winning and the funner it is to mine!!!!
1303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 02:45:20 AM
Serious question here. Why is AuroraCoin $70.00 USD per coin? It offers nothing new and 50% of it is pre-mined. Is it just me who is confused here?
Auroracoin overcomes the biggest "flaw" in bitcoin: widespread adoption, with only 0.015% of global population owning bitcoin.  Auroracoin's Airdrop will fix that problem (provided it is executed well).

Darkcoin overcomes the second biggest flaw in bitcoin: anonymity. Darkcoin is fixing that, which is why I'm also buying DRK.

I think there is a fundamental oversight in the Auroracoin plan. Why wouldn't the Icelanders trade their free, nascent AUR for the more widely accepted BTC immediately after the Airdrop?

Will they be loyal to a crypto they didn't build or demand? I think they'll begin to dump for BTC, beginning panic selling across the board.

Ultimately that would mean it's a good thing for Icelanders (free BTC) and the Bitcoin adoption rates you mention. It would only be a bad thing for the bagholders who get in now and can't exit the market fast enough.

Well, but the other side of that argument is that those who sell the auroracoin are spreading it to even more users?
1304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
May I inquire what the peak of DRK was so far? Any interim predictions for the next few months?

Thank you very much, such a great coin. Innovative, ambitious, awesome dev  Cool
I think it hit .004 when C-CEX got hacked.
Was at around .0025 naturally before that incident which pumped it way up n dumped it down lol.

I think because bitcoin has suddenly gotten feet again and has risen 15% and drk can only be traded with btc, it has had an effect on the coin (when only looking at the btc value)
1305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 02:05:10 AM
Trying to mine darkcoin on windows, getting a little frustrating...

I have 5830 (AMD Radeon HD 5800 Series) on windows 7 64-bit.  I downloaded sgminer from the darkcoin.io website.  Updated AMD Catalyst driver from 13.1 to 13.12 (but I also tried with 13.1 first before updating.  Here is my bat file:

Code:
set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100 
set GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1
.\sgminer --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://stratum1.example.com -u username -p password

(note I'm not really using stratum1.example.com) I'm getting the following error:

Code:
[08:36:44] Started sgminer 4.0.0

[08:37:32] Error -11: Building Program (clBuildProgram)
[08:37:32] Error compiling program for search.

Frontend phase failed compilation.
Error: Creating kernel search failed!

[08:37:32] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[08:37:32] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[08:37:32] Try restarting sgminer.
Press enter to continue:
If I press enter and wait, the screen goes blank for a little and then:

Code:
[08:38:20] Probing for an alive pool
a couple more messages and then I get a windows dialog box that says:

sgminer.exe has stopped working. Windows can check online for a solution to the problem.

I've seen posts about upgrading to a beta 14.1 driver but I'd rather not do that if possible.  I've seen a couple people have had this issue any progress on this?

All is well so far, but you don't say if you downloaded the ADL_SDK?  Download that from AMD and put the contents (or replace same named file) in your sgminer folder and you *should* be good to go!
1306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 01:26:24 AM


Yes! This is correct, Tante's is better use this on Wikipedia.

Tante, cool with you?

Of course silly boy!  I'm honored though it's ok when someone makes a better chart to use it instead Smiley
1307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 01:25:39 AM
Just wondering about the difficulty, it's at 317 right now, what would our difficulty be if DRK was a scrypt coin? Or I guess if everyone mining DRK switched to a scrypt coin how many GH's would we have? Just trying to compare our hashrate to a scrypt coin I guess. I'm not sure how to word this haha.

I don't know how to compare, but really the important thing is how many coin will you get and what is the coin worth.  In my opinion, the coin is very undervalued and since it's hard to mine, or the coin reward is small compared to price, I don't care.  I see it as being worth much more in the near future, so mining is worth while still for me.

But I'm going to give up soon because I haven't been able to play games in 2 months, LOL
1308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 01:21:05 AM
Not really, you're missing the denomination part.

User A wants to pay $103
User B wants to pay $254
User C wants to pay $51
User D wants to pay $53

-- All of them deposit their bills into the bucket:
$100,$1,$1,$1 == 103
$100,$100,$50,$1,$1,$1,$1 == 254
$50,$1 == 51
$50,$1,$1,$1 == 53

---- Now, count the bills of each kind
3x $100
3x $50
11x $1


Now the people randomly come collect what they're owed.

Who paid who?

Could you not just see that the destination address balance matches the total amount withdrawn from the beginning address(es)?

Does the change get DarkSent too? That would be pretty cool.


The payments into the buckets are made by different addresses that only the sender's wallet recognize as being theirs.  Those are mixed up with other people sending via darkcoin, then the analogy eduffield put up makes much more sense!
1309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 01:11:17 AM

Yes! This is correct, Tante's is better use this on Wikipedia.

Oh good, now I understand!  Cheesy  Thank you!
1310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 01:10:27 AM
If I know how much each of the six wallets had that were emptied, couldn't I also link that up with the 6 different people that come in and take out their amounts(since each of the 6 people would take out an amount equal to one of the wallets that was emptied)?  Sorry, I'm really slow too!

For example, 6 people drop off their payments $123, $31.45, $1, $2, $3, $4, and six different people later collect $123, $31.45, $1, $2, $3, $4, don't I know who paid who?

Not really, you're missing the denomination part.

User A wants to pay $103
User B wants to pay $254
User C wants to pay $51
User D wants to pay $53

-- All of them deposit their bills into the bucket:
$100,$1,$1,$1 == 103
$100,$100,$50,$1,$1,$1,$1 == 254
$50,$1 == 51
$50,$1,$1,$1 == 53

---- Now, count the bills of each kind
3x $100
3x $50
11x $1


Now the people randomly come collect what they're owed.

Who paid who?

Well, if you could tell how much  each person put into the pool, and how much each person took out of the pool, totals, you could.  However, if as you say, the sender sends using a different address for each denomination, it would be very confusing, and that's not shown on your chart.  Is this correct though?
1311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 01:07:00 AM
1312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 12:53:24 AM
Thanks HammerHedd, I think you're right.  But I think there is something to what watuba said as well.

eduffield, does our wallet also "collect" using one of it's pre-created addresses that sits in reserve? (colored hoping to catch his attention, LOL)

When it's in the first iteration it would be paying to the address pool, the unused addresses in that pool specifically. I'm hoping that's what you were asking?

Um, who's pool?  the sender?
1313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 12:52:26 AM
You pay into a bucket of 5's, 10's, 50's, etc. The bucket pays out exact amounts. So you can't tell who's money is who's between step 2 and step 3, so when they actually pay out the trail is gone.

How about this example, six people empty their wallets into a bucket, that bucket now has $2460 in it. A new group of 6 people come in take out their amounts. Who paid who?

ok, since I'm not the smartest person, but still think I'm average so that other people might have the same question, does the block chain show person A spit out 10, 9, .6 and .03

and person B received the same denominations (which is what the chart shows)?  

I mean, did you mistakenly  make the chart a bit too simple?  Wouldn't the combinations change?
1314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 12:45:54 AM
Thanks HammerHedd, I think you're right.  But I think there is something to what watuba said as well.

eduffield, does our wallet also "collect" using one of it's pre-created addresses that sits in reserve? (colored hoping to catch his attention, LOL)
1315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 04, 2014, 12:27:12 AM

As I understand it, and I may be totally incorrect, when this system in place, you won't know which addresses are payins and which addresses are payouts.  So, the 5.45 DRK transfer and 5.45 DRK recievee addresses will be indistinguishable from the 5 DRK, 0.25 DRK or whatever denomination addresses in the pools.  Someone correct me quickly if I'm wrong, or explain this better.

Oh, ok, I think you're right, LOL, I just get confused easily (and forget!)
1316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 11:59:46 PM
Adding Complete Anonymity to DarkSend



As most of you are aware, we're currently building the decentralized foundation that that the future DarkSend implementation will sit on. DarkSend provides some basic anonymity currently, but this implementation shown above can be very robust, providing no way to determine the source or destination of money traveling through Darkcoin.

It'll use 2 separate stages in the pooling system, one to gather enough inputs to add a level of anonymity and one to merge them back together.

So the pay-ins and pay-outs end up being the same?  That seems traceable?  I'm sure I'm not understanding something... help please?
1317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 07:06:43 PM
Any idea why DRK is dropping in price?

Will it rebound? Why is it not rising relative to btc?

The market is very skittish.  with bitcoin rising, it's more expensive to buy dark (if you have to buy bitcoin to buy dark) so

is darksend working at the moment?

last thing i heard was there are some ddos problems...

Yes, darksend is working, not at "full capacity" meaning not with all the features that will be implemented, but it's quite good as it is right now Smiley

1318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 06:48:01 PM

Please don't worry about this.  Yes, other coins will emulate us.  However, the license, though open source, will require them to keep the name "darksend".  They won't be allowed to change that.

They also won't get any of it until it's finished.  By then people will know darkcoin.

I'm not worried Stefana, thought it looked ridiculous to cling on so much to a dead coin.

Yes, well... to each his own I guess?  I'm actually feeling sad for the last greater fool.  Though I might be one of 'em.  I actually think DarkCoin is something real.  Something here to stay, not just an experiment, though it is indeed an experiment as well, just as Bitcoin is.  I've been bending my mother's brain over all this.  She has always enjoyed investment and such, so I thought I finally found a topic we could really talk about.  She's still wrapping her head around it though, LoL.  In her 80's, she is not dismissive, highly intelligent and I can't wait to hear her assessment!  But it will take a while, it took me at least a month, LOL.
1319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 06:40:36 PM
We have our first official intended copycat. One of the first useless clones in the ALT game, franko.

I was genuinely curious what's different about franko so I asked the dev on reddit. Here's the answer and yes after I may have been an ass, I don't really care.



Basically he is taking features and adding them as the real innovators make them up in hope of his coin not doing.

Then I saw this on twitter and realized closed source at first is a good thing. He even wants to rename Darksend to fit his shitcoin.



Franko is below 'Junkcoin' 'Grumpycoin' and 'Flappycoin. , It's going down 14.59% today while 99% of others alts are way in the green because BTC is rising. Your coin is dead, and adding features from other coins as defibrillator blasts won't help it. Flatline.

P.S. props to that @bodskibod for thinking it's called Dark's End. You're smart.

Please don't worry about this.  Yes, other coins will emulate us.  However, the license, though open source, will require them to keep the name "darksend".  They won't be allowed to change that.

They also won't get any of it until it's finished.  By then people will know darkcoin.
1320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scrypt on: March 03, 2014, 06:38:10 PM
what in the fuck is going on today? BTC is bubbling up insanely to 700. Aurora is 65 dollars. Am I dead?

Oh  come on SlyA, you know the crypto market is extremely unstable.  I hope you're just having fun?  If it's upsetting you, seriously, it's going to be this way for a really long time until the crypto coins are more accepted.  Just like the stock market in the 20's.  And even the stock market goes "crazy" sometimes, albeit with proportionately far less flux.
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