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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: August 29, 2023, 04:50:56 AM
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Self control and discipline is what make the difference. You can be a successful gambler and still be an addictive one because it all depends on the way we utilize it and from what angle we are seeing it. Gambling is something we need to understand and what it take someone to be a successful one. When we have become a professional with results, we can be called a successful gambler either an addictive one or just a discipline one. When we want to make profits by all means as a gambler, we might be tempted to do the wrong thing becoming an addict.

At the end of the day the odds are against you, and being self controlled and disciplined won't make a difference.

It's all just probabilities in the end. You might have one person that hits the jackpot at their first try, while another diligent one never wins it.
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: August 29, 2023, 04:48:03 AM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

I guess it depends on the specific game, but yes, slots are generally not great for the gambler.

I think Poker is probably the one with the highest chances for the gambler, even though it's still lower than the casino of course.
1303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: August 29, 2023, 04:46:55 AM
Glad to see a lot of us have the same sentiment. One more scary thought is that most people when they are up money, they feel like they're "freerolling" more profit - and with that trap, even though the RTP is 95-98%, you will never truly realise your edge and never leave up as the odds are stacked against you so in the short term you're much more likely to be down than up.  Angry

In the short term you actually have more chances of being up, which is still less probable than being down.

But the more you play, the less probabilities you have to come up on top.

The reason for this is math.
1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: (dont) ignore the man behind the curtain on: August 29, 2023, 04:45:18 AM
AI from what I've seen so far is mostly about enabling what is already possible but usually far more awkward.  The AI is a way for the plain masses of the population to access tools normally less available then it can provide via a search engine type conversational interface.      
  The other big point about AI that Ive heard a few times is you must remember the giant amount of data required for it to work.   Dont forget the computer isnt really super intelligent its mostly about resourcefulness to reference the data on tap it has; a giant reserve of data accumulated and formatted ready to use with the AI is the secret behind its magic.
   Show me the data for the outcomes with gambling and I will believe it can be of great help, for card games this is often maths data and long established and known so I can believe that possibility as AI.  I studied card games as part of a statistics and probability theory course a quarter century ago and it was old as hell then, its still relevant now to be in any AI  deployed solution no doubt.

AI is great for saving time while doing basic initial research on a topic.

You can for example learn a few computer languages in a basic way in minutes, or days instead of weeks.

You can also learn a lot faster to gamble for example than just researching the web.

It's a bit like the first jump from books to the Internet, now instead of searching the Internet you ask your AI friend who already knows (or bullshits you, just like a friend would do).
1305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: August 28, 2023, 03:50:34 AM
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See yourself in a position that you want to be in the future. So if you are a struggling gambler who wants to seek and claim consistency and profitability in gambling, don't be ashamed of saying that you are a successful gambler even if you're not for the time being. Identity comes first and then your actions. Because in between the successful one and the addictive one, it's just their level of professionalism, their discipline to follow their budget, and their patience.

That's a good idea.

Looking at yourself at possible futures, and then seeing what would it be like. Then, discard the bad outcomes, and carry on the plan required to go to the future that looked the best for you.

That's basically thinking really. You try to predict the future based on the present and current habits, and see where you will end up, and adjust accordingly.

You can either plan to go towards a goal, or plan to move away from something bad, or both.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: August 28, 2023, 03:48:36 AM
Thinking back on my first gambling experience, I would assume that it would be sports related. As a kid making bets (not for money) over sporting events was pretty common. My buddy and I used to bet who was going to hit a home run first, Will Clark or Kevin Mitchell, when watching Giants games. At stake was usually who got to play the first video game.

And how did it go?, did you end up winning or losing at your first bet?

Maybe you broke even...

I think that people who win a lot of money in the first try might get addicted quicker than people that lose in their first gamble.

There's also the social aspect, people might say that it was bad luck for now, but they could win in the future, etc.
1307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: August 28, 2023, 03:46:24 AM
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Well, I guess it depends on the preference of the people around that locality. Because like ay other sports, it is about money, business, and reputation of the owner and the company. I am not stealng the rights of the fans for supporting the team and the community bt if you  dig into it, it really is just a business. The real game is managing players not on the court but swapping them and buying the talents of the player  from their budget.

At the end of the day, any sport that is not amateur, or simply a group of friends doing it as a hobby will be driven by money. Simple as that.

The moment a sport gets organized, and there is a professional aspect about it, it's all about money.

It's actually on the name itself. Being a Professional means you are getting paid money to do something. That's when some people "go pro" at their sports, the exact moment when they start getting paid money.
1308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 28, 2023, 03:43:48 AM
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Women have already shown the world that they have more than satisfactory skills in all areas in which humans work. For this reason, I believe that women's sporting events like the world cup could be managed 100% by women.
It's disgusting to see that some men still can't control their testosterone... if they do that in front of cameras then imagine what they must be able to do with a woman when no one else is watching.
So the fewer men at these women's events, the better.

I understand that there could be a quality deficit in some sector, because good professionals are sometimes only found in a male or female person, but I believe that this would be a very small problem.

Well, of course women can work in whatever they want.

But, women and men have different interests (when looking at population level), and that gets reflected in the professions they choose freely.

I don't see the problem of having the individual to choose whatever they want to do with their lives, and if that ends up in some jobs having more men, or more women, so be it.
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: August 28, 2023, 03:40:51 AM
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Yes, I couldn't agree more. I think this is the main problem of gambling addicts. They develop this kind of mindset where they think that they are lucky enough, and that they are going to win the next one resulting to major loss and in the worst case addiction. It's about being 'more', what I mean it's either the more you win or the more you loss, you become more addicted. That's why self-control is something that we should really learn in order to prevent being addicted to gambling.

Yes, that's the thing, the addict will always try to come back for the next hit of dopamine.

For gambling addicts, it's basically either "recovering their losses", or if they win, they want to win again.

In the end, unfortunately for the gambler, they will end up losing all the money they bet. That's the cold truth that not many want to talk about. They all want to talk about living a rich life fueled by gambling. But that's just a fantasy.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 27, 2023, 12:39:22 PM
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I have never seen women coaching men's football teams. So why should we have men as managers for the women's teams? This puts the safety of women players at risk. Here in India, a few years back the coach for the national field hockey team was suspended after he threatened the players. The coach (M K Kaushik) used to ask players to have physical relations with him, and those who didn't agreed to the demands were kicked out of the team. Finally one of the players (T S Ranjitha Devi) complained about it and there was some media coverage. But in the end, the media coverage waned and Kaushik was appointed in another plum post by the government. The player who complained had her career destroyed.

I don't think it's fair to assume that if a person is a man then the women in the team will be at risk.

This is getting way too silly.

We are all independent humans, capable of doing pretty much everything, women can also be violent, etc.

It makes no sense to ban a person from a job because they are a man or a woman. It's nonsense.
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: August 27, 2023, 12:36:47 PM
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Association football is not very popular in the United States and one of the reasons is that the US national team is not very strong and almost never performs well during the FIFA tournaments. And the American public doesn't like it when their national team loses to countries such as Germany and Argentina. Hopefully during the 2026 tournament, there will be a change. if the national team can do a few upsets, then there is a chance that more and more people may pay attention to football and in the end it will result in an increased popularity for that sport in the US.

The 2026 world cup might bring football a bit closer to the mainstream media in the US, but it already has been hosted there, and I don't think it has contributed too much.

It was the year 1994 when the US hosted it, that was almost 30 years ago. You would think that in that amount of time you would have seen the effects of it already, but I don't think it has affected it too much.
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: August 27, 2023, 12:33:41 PM
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There are many people got addicted to the game. And even though they are rich people then they can still getting poor once they will continue to gamble without controlling  themselves, and also we must think That once a man or a woman involve in gambling then all we can say is that there's a high chance of being addicted cause once they think that they can win a good amount then the more they will loss.

Gambling pays a lot of money. All around the world, the selling of the hope to become a millionaire is ironically making all those hopeful gamblers poorer than before.

The only people that actually make money from gambling is the people that run the casinos, and maybe also the governments, depending on the countries and taxes, etc.

The people actually gambling are simply pouring all their savings into the hands of those two groups.
1313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: August 27, 2023, 12:31:21 PM
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Its a contradiction, well said really.   If the gambling is controlling the player then by default unless very lucky somehow the gambler will be paying for games and not gaining but paying out to others, other winners and the casino themselves.    Successful suggest someone who has mastered the path of luck and avoided the pullback of losses to regularly gain, that could be skill or I think some good money management could achiever this.
   In short, a successful gambler is just a rich person and thats probably what most would think of first.   A proper addict will win and in any case give it all back not knowing when to stop.

It's a bit ironic because a successful gambler will have to stop gambling at some point to actually be considered successful.

If they keep gambling, they will eventually lose all their money and their status of successful gambler.

But no ones wants to hear that, they just want to hear about this mythological creature that keeps winning against all the odds all the time. That is just fantasy.
1314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: August 27, 2023, 12:28:37 PM
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A lot depends on what kind of AI you want to create. As I understand it, if for generating images, then there is nothing easier - there are open source solutions that can be run even at low capacities. But if you are talking about language models, then the GPU and processors will not be enough, as I understand it (I am far from IT, but I was interested) because of the number of parameters, a much larger amount of memory is needed there that ordinary GPUs have.

StableDiffusion can be used to generate images on a normal computer, say a mac mini.

In the same way, you can simply download a model that is only a few GBs and you should be able to use your own private GPT.

Here are some pointers:

https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui

https://github.com/imartinez/privateGPT

https://gpt4all.io/index.html

Have a look at this Stacker News post I made about gpt4all: https://stacker.news/items/225535
1315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: August 26, 2023, 07:35:59 AM
Guys, you need to check this:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1694886846050771321

Donald Trump set Twitter on fire with his mugshot tweet. 1.5 million likes and 215 million views until now. Elon Musk posted multiple times, including a tweet that claimed that there are approximately 10 million views per hour for this image. I am still not sure how all this drama will work out for Donald Trump in the end, but Trump has received a big boost as a result of all this.

Here is another Tweet from Elon:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1694903930981884041
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Yeah, at the end of the day, Trump will continue to use this to fuel his campaign.

It actually fits his narrative very well. And it's an interesting story for people, many will want to participate in this and make him president, because it's like a hero's journey basically. People love stories like this.

It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong really. It's all about how people feel with the story.
1316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 26, 2023, 07:32:16 AM
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I agree. Kissing someone in the lips can't be interpreted as giving appreciation for the good performance. IMO, he just misuses the opportunity for his own benefit. And I am quite surprised with the response from him. Luis Rubiales came out in the open and announced that he has no intention to resign. BTW, now there is another controversy that is coming up. A video recording form the final match has emerged, in which the Spanish coach (Jorge Vilda) is seen grabbing the breast of one of the female non-playing staff. Here are more details on this:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/jorge-vilda-spain-grope-controversy-world-cup-b2397704.html

I guess it depends on the culture and the two people involved really.

At the end of the day if he and she are OK with what happened, then nothing should be done really.

I honestly don't see what the big deal is. It's just a kiss while celebrating being the world champions.

Can't believe that the whole championship is being ignored and people are focusing on a one second kiss.
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: August 26, 2023, 07:29:13 AM
^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

It is such a strange thing this election.

We have mugshots of a candidate for president of the US. I think Trump will end up being elected president while in jail.

There must be someone already preparing a movie about this, I'm sure.
1318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: August 26, 2023, 07:27:53 AM
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Leagues such as the NFL and NBA maybe wildly popular in the US, but at the same time their universities give a lot of importance to athletics and other Olympic sports disciplines. And that is the reason why they perform so well during the Olympic Games. And also, the US attracts a lot of talented athletes. A lot of them migrate to that country and attain the citizenship. In case of football, despite all this they are still unable to perform at the top level. Many of their national team players are of migrant origin, but in the world cups, they have performed poorly.

Yeah, at the end of the day it's all about the money.

These leagues make a lot of money by simply having these young players, and in return they basically give them a scholarship.

Seems like a really great deal for the companies running those leagues. It's also a good opportunity for the young players that would have no chance to pay for the expensive university.

I guess that wouldn't work in countries were universities are free or reasonably priced.
1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: August 26, 2023, 07:24:00 AM
not bad, my initial experience in gambling was when I accidentally made a bet and it became x2 of the existing capital, actually I wanted to review gambling sites but it made me win and it was quite fun. well unfortunately victory is not always forever I can also experience defeat. for just gambling games it's fun.

You were so close to actually win against the casino.

First you need to win more than what you have paid in your lifetime, which you just did.

The next step was to stop gambling forever. But that you didn't do Smiley
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: August 25, 2023, 02:21:47 AM
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A lot of people claim that association football is not very popular in the United States, because the MLS is nowhere near NBA or NFL in terms of revenues. But it may also be due to the fact that the quality of MLS may be low. I don't know how much was the viewership for the recently concluded 2022 FIFA World Cup in the United States. I would assume that it was quite decent, since a large part of the American population is of migrant descent, and originates from football crazy nations such as Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela.

The thing is that the US has a lot of very popular sports, as you mentioned, like the NBA, NHL, etc.

But in South America and Europe, basically there is no rival to football. Any other sport is a low second.

In those continents, when there's an important football match, the whole country stops. Everyone is either at the stadium, or watching it on TV at home or at a pub.

And when their home country scores, you can hear the roar from everywhere.

That experience is not seen anywhere else in the world other than South America and Europe.
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