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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 04:04:27 PM
Both Servette and AS Roma have come into this Europa League fixture in good form, with Roma making a strong start to their Europa League campaign, winning three of their four games and finishing second in the group. Servette, however, have struggled in the Europa League so far, finishing third in Group G with just four points from four matches. They will be keen to secure a win at home and improve their chances of going into the knockout stages. However, Roma lost their last Europa League match 2-0 against Slavia Prague. Although Roma are strong on paper, they are looking to bounce back from recent defeats in their struggles away from home. I think the Servette vs Roma match is likely to be a draw.

Roma have been in an impressive form so far and a win in this match will definitely catapult them to the next stage of the European competition, I believe Roma squad will be strong enough to defeat Servette. Jose Mourinho is known to always deliver his team to the final and I believe his coaching tactics so far have proven that reaching the Europa league final can be obtainable. Roma have won 3 matches out of the 4 matches they played so far losing just a match so they are really equal to the task in today's game. With Romelu Lukaku and Andrea Belotti in the forward for Roma the both players can actually give in their best to ensure victory in this game against Servette.
1302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 08:40:52 AM
I literally expected a day with few goals in UCL and look how wrong I was! So many games with so many goals and once again we had comebacks even from 3-0 as Inter managed to make a fair 3-3 and almost won the game when Benfica got a red card  Shocked.

I think this was the best two days in UCL for quite some years right ? because I can't remember having 2 amazing UCL night one after other in recent 2-3 years...

This Benfica vs Inter Milan match surprised me like Benfica was leading with 3:0 in half time only to come back for the second half and Inter Milan equalized all the goals. Though Inter Milan tried by equalizing the goals but they need more work in their defense as their defense isn't that solid, if not for the errors in their defense during the first half that made them concede 3 consecutive goals in the first half I believe Inter Milan would have won considering the efforts they put in the second half. I just feel for Benfica's Joao Mario scored a hat trick for them only to see the whole goals equalized and it looks like all his efforts were in vain.

Benfica's performance in the UCL this season is very poor as they rock the bottom in their group after playing 5 matches, couldn't win any match and drew just one match. Anyway Inter Milan did a great job as this draw against Benfica have confirmed them qualified for the round of 16, it's really nice to see Alexis Sanchez score for Inter Milan as he was the one that scored the equalizer.
1303  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Preparing and protecting bitcoin future holders on: November 30, 2023, 08:20:37 AM
Op I quite understand your assertions about passing Bitcoin awareness to our younger generation of which it is really a good idea but you see whatever that hasn't been fully adopted by the masses or the government shouldn't be what you will go publicly on creating the awareness. If you want to sensitize the younger ones about Bitcoin I think it first have to start from your homes, like we have younger ones in the family who are either our brothers or our relatives so one can actually pass this information to them by so doing they too can extend it to their friends and before you know it the sensitization have been created.

It is really unfortunate that this awareness didn't come to us earlier because had it been it came early to us by now we would have had lots of crypto legends and crypto enthusiasts but however, it is rather late than never as since we are now aware of these life changing platforms we should endeavor to pass the knowledge to who ever that is interested to know about it.
1304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 30, 2023, 05:10:38 AM
If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

This made me recall how I started gambling as this was exactly what happened to me when my brother introduced me into gambling, at first I will played and lose money then I will be very angry with my brother but what made me kept playing was when I saw other people playing and winning then I got encouraged to keep playing that I might also win and I kept playing low and behold I actually won and forgot about the money I lost initially, I was so happy as it seemed to me that the money was just giving to me by someone and that was actually how I started gambling till date though not an addicted gambler as I can stay for days without even staking a dime.
1305  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 30, 2023, 04:58:28 AM
I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

I don't because I'm poor. I gamble only when I have money to spare. I have a day job that pays me well so poverty is not my motivation.
I do admit I have gambled online to get the transaction fees to withdraw as I prefer withdrawing in fewer digit amounts and lost all in some cases. I might also have gambled to get a fixed amount online to get something done but that should not be considered poverty,
I have seen poor people gamble and that's a sure shot way of destroying your life. No poor have gambled to richness. There are lottery stories but the money coming from luck don't last long.

Gambling to me sometimes to some persons may be because they feel that they don't have sufficient money or may be they don't have a source of making regular income so hence their getting involved in gambling with the hope that if they win they can be able to use the money and sort out things they needed. Though the rate of the Rich ones that gambles in our society cannot be compared with the poor because most reach people basically plays gamble for fun that's why if they lose a bet they don't feel the impact at all. But when the poor loses a bet most times they feel it so much because they actually needed the money most and in the quest of gambling and losing it can even affect the psychological health of them because their aim of gambling is not met considering the fact that they don't have a steady income yet they lose the little they make out from other menial jobs.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 04:45:55 AM
Bayern Munic gave their worst outing once again. It is obvious their days of many goals is gone. Who would have thought that Bayern Munic could not even score a single goal in their home game against Kopenhavn. Just recently they struggled to win Koln a goal to nil at away in a match the whole world expected many goals.

Maybe they are saving their strength for Union Berlin as they already qualified in the group of the Champions League.  Their focus will definitely be the domestic league where they are trailing with two points behind Bayern Leverkusen that have remain resolute to finish the season at the top.

You need to understand that in football most times when a particular club feels like they've qualified for the next round while they still have outstanding matches they don't really put more energy in their remaining matches and can even reserve some important players in such matches, so I think Bayern Munich saw themselves as people that has already qualified for the round of 16 thereby not putting much effort to win a less competitive club like FC Copenhagen.
1307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 30, 2023, 04:31:36 AM
In trading, making profits is not guaranteed all the time so accumulating for a very long period like 10 years as you stated may not really be an obtainable idea as the future is unpredictable no one knows how the fate of the coin might turn out due to some uncertainty that surrounds the stock coin market. Making accumulation for a very long period of time might even lead to losses because in the quest of hoping that the price will skyrocket then it suddenly starts dipping so it's really not ideal to accumulate for too long as no one can speculate or predict what it's future holds.
I might understand your point but I put it to you (Richbased) that you are completely wrong. Trading is a 50-50 game and/or gambling that is never advisable to anyone expect you are so good at it as a professional trader even as that it's still not advisable, you do not have a solid claim for disputing the fact that long term holding is not good.
Bitcoin as predicted has not reached it speculated price and as such you may be lucky enough to be among those who will be favoured with the uppity of the Bitcoin price as a result of long term holding. There is more chance of profiting with long-term holding that short term, infact a 99.99 chance of success for long term holding because after accumulating Bitcoin you will be prepared for but the upward movement of Bitcoin price and the dips at the same time. when you have a good portfolio or have accumulated enough bitcoin you cannot be affected by the price of Bitcoin at anytime because for sure Bitcoin can't go less than it has gone before and it has a guarantee that it will bounce back to a good price at any give time.

The area I highlighted makes sense to me about Bitcoin haven't reached the speculated ATH, I never knew that Bitcoin have a speculated ATH although even as Bitcoin has a speculated ATH all are still speculations as no one can really predict it's future but in that case I agree with you on buying and holdling bitcoins for a long interval of time but what if after the bull market then the price of bitcoins starts dipping? In such situation, what will happen to the bitcoins that you've hodl, like isn't the dip gonna affect the bitcoins? Well I don't know but if after the bull run and it's price dips and it doesn't affect the Bitcoin that have been bought and hodl then that sounds so interesting to me because the bitcoins can actually remain in the wallet till the next bull market without being affected by the fluctuations of price in the market.

But if peradventure bitcoins reaches it's speculated ATH does it mean that one can possibly stop buying and holdling or continue because I feel that if Bitcoin should reach ATH then investors may no longer be interested in buying and holdling since the price wouldn't go any further higher again.
1308  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: what is the importance of identify in your local board? on: November 29, 2023, 11:32:27 PM
I think the importance of the local board is to identify people from same country that are in this community and also to bring problems, help and solutions closer to each other. The local board has really aided alot of us here as we can interact with each other and explain things in a language that we can comprehend so easily. I think the creation of the local board have really aided this community alot as it is very easy to identify people that are in same space with you from the same country and has also helped in giving more understanding about things that are being discussed in the forum closer through the local board members.
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 29, 2023, 10:04:24 PM
Arteta and his players had an amazing start in the game against Lens and so far they scored 5 goals  Shocked in the first half and any opportunity they had in this match, they could use it.
Maybe Lens couldn't think about getting this result against Arsenal because. We knew Lens was far from the good situation it had in the last season but this team was not expecting to see this result, to be honest the Arteta's team was scary in this match.



Arsenal's performance against lens this evening is really incredible like I couldn't believe that Arsenal could just win this match in the first half the most astonishing part is the first four goals that was scored like Gabriel Jesus assisted Kai Havertz score, Bukayo Saka assisted Gabriel Jesus score, Gabriel Martinelli assisted Bukayo Saka score then Gabriel Martinelli also scored as well. Kai Havertz have been in recent form in Arsenal matches recently and it's good to see him making a difference.

Arsenal did an impressively great job this night, all thanks to Mikel Arteta for choosing the right squads for this important match and at the end Arsenal were able to stampede Lens by 6:0 I think that's the highest score they've beaten any club this season after the match they won 5:0 against Sheffield united in the premier league. By this winning against Lens Arsenal automatically qualify for the round of 16 in the champions league.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 29, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
Arsenal experienced good performance in some matches now, but their major challenge is that once they are approaching the end of the tournament, they will begin to experience some challenges that will make them not to maintain the first position till the end. If you watch very well, you will know that Manchester city still have the opportunity to return back to that first position in the premier league table if their players that had an injuries return back, and it will help them to recover from their losses. Arsenal will end up in third position in this season, because Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool are still showing some signs that will make them near the first position before the end of the tournament.

Arsenal has always been a good team for some seasons now the only problem with the club is not being able to maintain a consistent form till the end of the season, just look at how they played last season, the performed very well from the start and were even gaping Manchester city with reasonable points but along the line they flopped and lose out the trophy to Manchester city. Arsenal is a great club in England with lots of talented young players so these players can actually bring a trophy home if only the can maintain a consistent form till the rest of the season
1311  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Only Sell what you don't need. on: November 29, 2023, 02:04:54 PM
Overtime a tell people not to only be too attached to one investment and at a time one starts making good profits from his investments, the goal should be to invest in other asset that will still be sustainable should Incase the one you give all your trust doesn't turn out well in the future so that you can be able to have an alternative investment to fall unto though selling some of your asset to invest on the one you give more priority isn't bad but let it be that you've also got some other asset left.

In life we take risk all the time so to me I don't really see it as a bad idea if one decides to sell off an asset to invest on bitcoin though it's future isn't certain but a volatile asset like Bitcoin is worth selling other asset for and buy bitcoins, investment shouldn't be done with emotions as if one invest with emotions then some certain investment goals may not be achieved.
1312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 29, 2023, 12:16:06 PM
Real Madrid vs Napoli today in Group C. Overall, this match seems to have reason to fight for the win. Real Madrid will be looking to secure top spot in the group, while Napoli will be looking to secure their place in the next round. They need just one point to overtake Real Madrid at the top of the Champions League. Napoli's place in the next round of the Champions League is far from secure, although Braga are four points behind third place. Real Madrid already have the advantage of beating Napoli in their first meeting and have been in good scoring form recently. Both teams have chances to score, I think Real can beat Napoli 2-1.

It's really obvious that all the la Liga teams except Sevilla are doing pretty much well in the champions league like FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, Aletico Madrid and Real sociedad are all at the verge of qualifying for the round of sixteen in the EUFA Champions league. This la Liga teams have shown good energy in the UEFA Competition this season though Sevilla flopping in the Champions league was quite understandable considering that they mostly prefer being in the Europa league were they mostly perform more better than in the UCL.

Real Madrid will definitely devour Napoli because the club will play with so much confidence in this match as they reclaimed the top of la Liga table last Sunday. Real Madrid are currently topping the Group C in the champions league after playing 4 matches and winning all 4. With the form of Real Madrid midfielder Jude Bellingham it is believe that Madrid will not struggle to win Napoli though Napoli will be the ones to need this point more considering the fact that Madrid is in more convenient position and has qualified for the round of sixteen but I feel Madrid will not be willing to give up this match to Napoli easily.
1313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 29, 2023, 11:12:25 AM
Selling and taking profit during the bull run is not ideal because after selling, you might not be able to buy back at the price that you bought before and this will make you have less bitcoin that the initial amount that you had before selling. Meaning that you don't have a bitcoin target and you are not focus on accumulating bitcoin on a long term investment. Another reason why this strategy is not the best is that you will miss out the compounding interest that your bitcoin investment will accumulate for you if you only keep on accumulating till 10yrs time or more. Try and see your bitcoin investment as your life savings and not for profit alone because nobody knows if at the long run it is your bitcoin investment will be the one to take your to the next level in future because there is high possibility that bitcoin price might keep on increasing with timeline. It is better to save for the future than saving to sell and take profit and buy back again. All bitcoin sold can not be bought back easily because of the change in price towards the upside. It is also a bad idea to sell all your bitcoin investment and hold fiat. What is things didn't work out as you planned it after selling, that is when you will regret your action.

I don't agree to your assertion that it's not ideal to take off profits within the bull run like what's the essence of investing? Isn't it to make profits? So in a situation whereby an investor have achieved his major aim of investing which is to make profits so after selling off his bitcoins the next for him to do is to pause investing for sometime until the price begins to dip then he can start buying and holdling again till he aquires a reasonable amount or better still he apply the DCA till the price skyrockets again so that's what an experienced investor does.

What you should understand @Richbased is that the topic has no word of sell. The ideal investment approach hear is to buy the dip and hodl. You can agree with me that the best way to have a fruitful investment in Bitcoin is when you buy and continue to buy more. Taking the advantage of people who wants to sell. We don't talk about selling because selling means holding fiat that could lose value. The odds of selling your Bitcoin aren't good. However, there are various reasons why people invest in Bitcoin that can lead them to some decisions they will make in the future especially when the Bull run comes. I got into Bitcoin with the intention of running away from FIAT so why would i go back into the FIAT market again.

Selling and taking profit during the bull run is not ideal because after selling, you might not be able to buy back at the price that you bought before and this will make you have less bitcoin that the initial amount that you had before selling. Meaning that you don't have a bitcoin target and you are not focus on accumulating bitcoin on a long term investment. Another reason why this strategy is not the best is that you will miss out the compounding interest that your bitcoin investment will accumulate for you if you only keep on accumulating till 10yrs time or more. Try and see your bitcoin investment as your life savings and not for profit alone because nobody knows if at the long run it is your bitcoin investment will be the one to take your to the next level in future because there is high possibility that bitcoin price might keep on increasing with timeline. It is better to save for the future than saving to sell and take profit and buy back again. All bitcoin sold can not be bought back easily because of the change in price towards the upside. It is also a bad idea to sell all your bitcoin investment and hold fiat. What is things didn't work out as you planned it after selling, that is when you will regret your action.
In trading, making profits is not guaranteed all the time so accumulating for a very long period like 10 years as you stated may not really be an obtainable idea as the future is unpredictable no one knows how the fate of the coin might turn out due to some uncertainty that surrounds the stock market. Making accumulation for a very long period of time might even lead to losses because in the quest of hoping that the price will skyrocket then it suddenly starts dipping so it's really not ideal to accumulate for too long as no one can speculate or predict what it's future holds.
There is no point bringing in the stock market into our discussion. This is entirely Bitcoin discussion, fuck the stock market it is centralised and still been controlled by the companies. Stock exchanges, brokers and companies are all heavily regulated through various government agencies. And it should not be a topic of discussion. Funny how you mix things up, trading and stock

Sorry the stock was a keyboard error as I wanted to type coin market rather so pardon me on that as all my interest and concentration are geared towards Bitcoin, definitely fuck stock market and stock exchanges as they all all controlled by fiat of which Bitcoin has come to counter fiat.

However, accumulating and holding Bitcoin for a very long time, for a decade or two is pretty one of the best ways to into Bitcoin. The potential of Bitcoin can be seen only when you hold for long. Short term holders will only get a quick gain and be happy. But there are more in the future that Bitcoin can give, even more than we expected. I just feel so.

I still stand on the ground that when an investor has recorded some reasonable amount of profits then he can sell some of his bitcoins but not necessarily that he must sell all of it because despite the volatility of bitcoins I still believe that it's future is unpredictable as everything we all are saying are mere speculations. So instead of hodling Bitcoin after recording some profits is rather one sell it off and invest on other alternative assets that will yield good profit in the future rather than stagnating the coins in a personal wallet of which it will be of no value if it isn't exchanged or used to perform monetary transactions. A good investor doesn't depends all his earnings on a single project as it requires versatility in other to record obtainable results.
1314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 29, 2023, 08:33:09 AM
Selling and taking profit during the bull run is not ideal because after selling, you might not be able to buy back at the price that you bought before and this will make you have less bitcoin that the initial amount that you had before selling. Meaning that you don't have a bitcoin target and you are not focus on accumulating bitcoin on a long term investment. Another reason why this strategy is not the best is that you will miss out the compounding interest that your bitcoin investment will accumulate for you if you only keep on accumulating till 10yrs time or more. Try and see your bitcoin investment as your life savings and not for profit alone because nobody knows if at the long run it is your bitcoin investment will be the one to take your to the next level in future because there is high possibility that bitcoin price might keep on increasing with timeline. It is better to save for the future than saving to sell and take profit and buy back again. All bitcoin sold can not be bought back easily because of the change in price towards the upside. It is also a bad idea to sell all your bitcoin investment and hold fiat. What is things didn't work out as you planned it after selling, that is when you will regret your action.

I don't agree to your assertion that it's not ideal to take off profits within the bull run like what's the essence of investing? Isn't it to make profits? So in a situation whereby an investor have achieved his major aim of investing which is to make profits so after selling off his bitcoins the next for him to do is to pause investing for sometime until the price begins to dip then he can start buying and holdling again till he aquires a reasonable amount or better still he apply the DCA till the price skyrockets again so that's what an experienced investor does.

In trading, making profits is not guaranteed all the time so accumulating for a very long period like 10 years as you stated may not really be an obtainable idea as the future is unpredictable no one knows how the fate of the coin might turn out due to some uncertainty that surrounds the stock coin market. Making accumulation for a very long period of time might even lead to losses because in the quest of hoping that the price will skyrocket then it suddenly starts dipping so it's really not ideal to accumulate for too long as no one can speculate or predict what it's future holds.
1315  Other / Meta / Re: Has Bitcointalk lost it's appeal for projects to announce themselves on? on: November 29, 2023, 07:55:22 AM
Bitcointalk is more focused on bitcoin related activities so any other cryptocurrency will find there way in the altcoin discussion session. we should understand that the major objective of this forum is centered towards creating an acceptable awareness among bitcoiners and if you check very well you'll observe that most discussion here is Bitcoin related. Every member focusing on bitcoin is as a result of it's improvement and huge success it has recorded over the years as everyone interest is towards a coin that's dominating the coin market.
1316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Germany's fourth largest bank "Commerzbank" Granted Bitcoin Custody Licence. on: November 28, 2023, 11:00:35 PM
It's not as if I don't welcome the adoption of bitcoin custody Licence in this German bank but isn't the motive of which bitcoin was created for gonna be altered like instead of being decentralized, by this adoption of the custody Licence  now the government will be the one to regulate the activities of bitcoin transactions thereby projecting it to still be centralized under their control,  banking involves a third party of which bitcoin is a decentralized medium of performing transaction directly with the person you want to transact with. So I wonder how this adoption of the custody licence by the bank will be helpful to bitcoiners.
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 28, 2023, 10:09:33 PM
PSG are such a horrible team in this game. I never expected them to struggle this much against Newcastle. I don't know what is happening with them. Mbappe is also having one of his worst games by the way. The team are performing terrible as a whole. They don't deserve even one point with this performance honestly.

Barcola is also performing too badly but PSG are insisting on using his wing. Just why? He is just too bad at finishing today. PSG are playing as if they have already guaranteed their place for last 16.  Sad

This will be the first time Newcastle will win PSG at the Parc des Princes stadium. It's really disappointing when we come to the realization that PSG lost ro Newcastle home and away this season. To think I was looking forward to a PSG win and they just ended up playing this poorly against Newcastle.

Edit: PSG has been handed a penalty kick in the 97th minute. Such wow!

Paris Saint German were very lucky to draw this match against Newcastle. Newcastle really played so well in this match despite the fact that they almost won this game if not for the late penalty kick that PSG had and Kylian Mbappe net the ball. Newcastle would have defended their goal till the end but Valentino Livramento was just so careless and referee awarded penalty to PSG after VAR check. What a die minute equalizer as Newcastle was almost at the verge of winning this match.
1318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: November 28, 2023, 07:38:01 PM
Fair enough, but if you are fairly new to bitcoin (as your forum registration date is not even two months), then it can take years and years and years to build your bitcoin position and/or to get your bitcoin stake to a high enough status that you might be able to become less focused on BTC accumulation.

You could end up screwing yourself if you are waiting around too much rather than just buying and letting the chips fall where they will, even if you end up having a higher cost per BTC, but if you plan on staying in BTC for 4-10 years or more than it may end up doing you better to get your mindset correct in terms of buying BTC ongoingly and persistently until you reach a certain stash level..

Buying on dips can surely supplement a DCA strategy, and buying on dips becomes even better of a strategy the loinger that you have been in bitcoin, such if you have been in bitcoin for a whole cycle or a cycle and a half..  Then maybe at some point you might convert to ONLY buying on dips, but in the beginning many folks do not have enough bitcoin, and surely I cannot tell you how much you need.. and sometimes if you are new to bitcoin, you don't realize how many that you need.

Also, if you are just planning on selling after the price doubles or triples, then sure you may well be thinking about your approach to BTC differently as compared with a lot of the members participating in this thread.

I understand what you want to say about how long it could take to get a lot of Bitcoin and how much important to start buying it EARLIER not later.It is true  buying and keep Bitcoin over time can be a good strategy especially if you plan to keep it for many years.

Buy the Bitcoin when go down can also be a GOOD STRATEGY. But when you are just starting and don't have a lot of Bitcoin it is better to focus on buying it REGULARLY instead of waiting for the price to go down.

When we should sell Bitcoin depend on what we want to ACHIEVE and how much risk we can take easily. Some people want to sell it when the price go up like doubles or triples. But Mostly "Hold" tight because they think Bitcoin is the name HODL(or think the word HODL unique for Bitcoin). That is important for everyone to think about their own strategy when it comes to Bitcoin.

Inasmuch as bitcoin is concerned at this particular time, there is no need waiting for it to dip before buying and hodling. At this time what a good investor can to is to keeping buying bitcoin now irrespective of the fluctuations in the price of stocks in the market as bitcoin price may not dip lesser than this till the bull run begins. This is more reason why the DCA method is applicable at this material time as it will help an investor to be investing the same amount at difference period not withstanding the state of the price at that particular time.

Often times the problems we encounter while investing is impatient and fear of losing if peradventure the price of bitcoin dips after we've bought bitcoin and again due to this fear most time make investors to sell off their bitcoin earlier than it ought to have stayed. Investing in bitcoin requires patient to wait for a very long time before the investment can be matured for trading so in situation where an investor isn't patient enough to monitor the activities of stocks in the market it might actually lead to incurring losses.
1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 28, 2023, 07:01:05 PM
Arsenal sitting at the top of the league at this time of the season doesn’t really mean a thing. Everybody thinks Manchester city are still going to win the EPL title. Honestly it looks like Manchester City are still the favourites to emerge as champions again after their 1-1 draw against Liverpool, but with the current performances of other top four teams, like Liverpool and Arsenal, it seems like Manchester city might not win it this year. Arsenal have beaten Manchester City this season, Chelsea held them to a 4-4 draw some weeks ago and now Liverpool played out a draw against them.

Arsenal's ability to got top of the English Premier League I think shows how much ready the Mikel Arteta team really wants to fight for the league title. The opinion that they ain't a strong team to challenge for the title I don't think is valid considering how consistent they've been since the start of the league season. Manchester City without doubt is the strongest team in the league and that's because of the quality of players in their set up but that doesn't mean that Arsenal aren't formidable enough to challenge them for the English top flight title.

I think another failure to defeat a fellow big hitter will give them all the confidence that Manchester  City could drop enough points for another team to take advantage. I somehow rate Liverpool more than Arsenal to challenge Manchester city better. Liverpool are arguably the team most likely to beat Manchester City to the title. After all, they have done what has become almost impossible by getting something from the Etihad. If Manchester city continue this pattern of failing to beat their closest rivals, they might lose out on the title this season.
Considering the kind of rivalry that Liverpool has posed to Manchester City for the past 6 years, it's obvious that they're the strongest among other English Premier League teams to fight the champions for the title this season but just like I said in my response to your the first paragraph, I think Arsenal will as well be a team to beat for the title this season.

I don't dispute the fact that you see Liverpool and Manchester city as the strongest clubs in England because when you watch the play pattern of this both clubs you will know that the two clubs almost play same pattern of football and as well they have experienced and tactical players. Arsenal seems to also be among the strong contenders in the premier league but the problems they have is inconsistency as they will perform very to a level they will start dropping form again if not Arsenal is also a great club in England.
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 28, 2023, 06:54:57 PM
I will be more interested in the game between PSG and Newcastle tonight because I know it's really going to be a tough game,and a very hard game to predict.PSG won't want to let Newcastle win them for the second time,and at thesame time, Newcastle won't want to drop points after sitting last on their group table.Indeed,this game will also be an entertaining one to watch too as Newcastle will fight with their last blood to make sure they secure the three points which will push them to 7 points after one win,one draw,and two loses.I will be happy if Newcastle should win that game,atleast it will boost their moral while facing other teams.

It is very obvious that PSG will win this game because with the nature with which they played Monaco in France ligue 1, it will be very difficult for Newcastle to even come closer to PSG in this match though Paris Saint German have some problem in their defense and despite them winning matches but most of their opponents also finds their way to score them. Newcastle can still make a drama in this match considering the fact that they won PSG in their last meeting so surprisingly Newcastle might still beat them again.
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