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Has this forum been offline for a while? If so, what's the scoop on that?
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As for Mad Max........ wont see it. I have seen enough of war up close and personal.
I thank you for your service and hope that from now on you see only peace up close in your personal life. |
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...Network Monitor... shows 134 computers running 0.2.0a and 6 running 0.2.0 for 140 connected peers. Of these, 2 are Apple, 66 are Windows and 71 are Ubuntu.
...Delegate Monitor...shows 116 total Delegates, with 101 Top Delegates updating the blockchain and 15 other Delegates on standby.
Mal, I would suspect that some of the Delegates are running on Windows Server hosts. You are right, when we update to a Linux only Delegate, the Windows Server clients will either have to run old delegate versions, or go dark. They will then be lacking some functions. Or they can go Ubuntu on a 0.3.0 upgrade. Do you think they are all running Windows on server farms, or could some of them be on a home ISP? THAT would be interesting... Say, an aside: I saw Mad Max this weekend, because I am an original fan of that movie franchise from the early 1980s. Run, do not walk, to go see this film. On a scale of 1 to 10 it is a 37. An absolute masterpiece of film making, and I am not alone in that assessment. An astounding 98% of the critic reviews have been enthusiastically positive: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mad_max_fury_road/reviews/I will be seeing MM:FR again, just so I can try to focus more on what I only glimpsed in the background the first time around. The background detail in every frame is incredible, and you only get a glimpse before it's on to the next scene. This thing has an average of 22 scene / viewpoint cuts per minute (somebody counted); the action is practically nonstop for two solid hours. You come out feeling like your adrenal glands have been squeezed dry. I actually had tears in my eyes when the credits started to roll. |
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Let's talk for a little bit about the Network Monitor here: http://cryptichain.me/networkMonitorThis currently shows 134 computers running 0.2.0a and 6 running 0.2.0 for 140 connected peers. Of these, 2 are Apple, 66 are Windows and 71 are Ubuntu. Now let's look at Delegate Monitor here: http://cryptichain.me/delegateMonitorThis currently shows 116 total Delegates, with 101 Top Delegates updating the blockchain and 15 other Delegates on standby. Questions: Are all top delegates shown in the Network Monitor? If so, how can you tell which are Top Delegates and which are Standby Delegates and which are Crypti Lite nodes? Since there's 101 Top Delegates and only 71 Ubuntu peers, does that imply that some of the Top Delegates are running Windows / Apple? If so, what's gonna happen to them when the 0.3.0 release strips forging / delegates out of the Windows code? |
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How do I check if I forge any blocks at the moment? My LA Vultr node started working worse and worse, so I deleted it and deployed the one in NY/NJ location instead of it, but as I see my uptime is keeping falling. Forging is enabled.
UPD: I checked my delegate through the web wallet, it showed that I wasn't forging. Will try to restart the server.
UPD2: It worked, my delegate is back online.
I had some problems with my Delegate at Vultr, too, and had to do a restart - see below. Middle pix shows crash, bottom pix shows back to current nominal ops. Anybody have any ideas what happened here or how to prevent it in the future?    |
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Second, I totally agree about the vulnerability of Crypti in its current form to DDoS attacks. As I have discussed before, one solution is to split Top Delegate communications with Lite clients and their communications with each other onto separate IP addresses. Top Delegates should have their own darknet where only they know the IP addresses being used for communications among themselves to forge new blocks.
I have my concerns with this. If only 101 delegates have control over the network, it will be very simple to launch a coordinated attack on these. Are there any ways to handle this? The capability to do this is one of the advantages we got when we spun off Crypti Lite. |
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Server problems - wait a second, I'm trying something...
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One reason that the Stas delegates show low uptime is that the uptime is figured from the first block that the delegate forged. In the case of stas, that is around 110,000. we are now in 270,000 range. Stas was offline for a few days due to a billing problem with Vultr. Since he missed forging some 50,000 blocks, he dropped to about 14%. It takes about 100,000 blocks for him to advance 15%. He is forging around 100% now.
This is t change in version 021. The uptime will be figured with the last X blocks. Value of X is undecided, and depends on testing results.
This will be a valuable change and similar to what I proposed earlier about "current consecutive blocks missed" being a figure of merit that needed to be shown. I still think this would be the best thing to show for making voting evaluations, not an "uptime" number that blurs this info by "averaging" it over "t". |
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The foundation controls 11% of the votes, and the dev team has purchased another 20% of the coins since the IPO. 25% are in Bter, and another 20% are in other exchanges. That leaves about 24% that is in wallets of inactive investors.
I think these numbers are actually a little different, see : http://cryptichain.me/topAccounts Bter is down to 18.5%, and holdings by the Foundation itself is down to 8%, Poloniex is 4% and Cryptsi deposit / withdrawal has been broken / frozen at under 1.5% for months (altho I still don't know its exact account number - can anybody supply that?). Thus total exchange holdings are under 25% and two-thirds of all Crypti is currently in the hands of private individuals. Do we know the current amount privately held by devs and other Foundation members? |
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Starik, if someone were to run a full node on windows and try to become a delegate, it would be pointless. As soon as they became a delegate and were active and started missing blocks, they would just get voted out.
If this is true and the network became only 101 delegates then this is very bad because it could be stopped by simple ddos attack.  A few points. First, stasDelegates 1,2,4,5,6 and 8 are below 25% uptime and still dropping. They've obviously been offline for some time now and still haven't been voted down. We've got six new standby delegates (cryptiNeo,starick69, btc, Intrinsic1, Intrinsic2 and China) waiting to get votes and replace them. Second, I totally agree about the vulnerability of Crypti in its current form to DDoS attacks. As I have discussed before, one solution is to split Top Delegate communications with Lite clients and their communications with each other onto separate IP addresses. Top Delegates should have their own darknet where only they know the IP addresses being used for communications to new forge new blocks. |
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Full Client on Windows
We discussed the full client on Windows between our foundation members and came to a conclusion. We will continue updating and releasing the full client for Windows, Mac OS and Linux. The only difference for Windows full client is that it will not support the delegate functionality, due to the high time accuracy needed, that unfortunately Windows is unable to provide. All other features like syncing the blockchain and broadcasting transactions into the Crypto network will still work with all future Windows/Mac/Linux releases, making the Full node as the most safest solution for interaction with Crypti blockchain.
The Lite Client will be released for Windows and Mac OS in the future and is an addition to the Full Client. We will market the Lite Client for the mainstream users, as it is much easier to handle.
Well, now I'm a little confused. There are two separate problems running a delegate node on a home PC, not one problem: time synchronization and network latency. I don't know if Mac OS can do better time sync than Windows, but both will suffer from network lag. So why not remove delegate functionality from Mac OS also, since it is not used in a server farm environment any more than Windows is? |
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BTW, this could not happen if Crypti goes open source  Speaking of this, what is the plan / timeline / rev number for Crypti to make its code public? |
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eccentric???
Your ideas so are far to eccentric to be practically implemented, or have any use to Crypti (or any other crypto-currency) for that matter....
Eccentric.  Which is actually accurate, I really am more like this IRL than Mal Reynolds.... |
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I agree it's a good idea, but why not target RPi users as well? The community is much larger than 10,000 mate. I agree the Raspberry Pi community is much larger. After three years, it is also already fragmented into many, many large subgroups that are now harder to reach. The whole point of trying to associate with the CHIP team NOW is that they are just getting started and so there is the possibility of Crypti Lite becoming integrated into their standard software as a pre-installed desktop icon / standardized payment method. The CHIP-$9 is a much better platform for vendor platform cryptocurrency integration than RPi, and not because it's four times cheaper. The Raspberry Pi is very oriented towards video (integrated camera / HDMI output support) and not so much internet connectivity (Ethernet plug only and no wifi unless you plug a dongle into a USB port). The CHIP-$9 has integrated wifi and Bluetooth but only a simple composite video out for old yellow-jack standard def TVs. Which one is easier to incorporate into an always-on point-of-sale terminal that can get a purchase onto the Crypti blockchain in ten seconds? The cheap one with the built in wifi. The devs rev Crypti up to ten-second blocktime to support fast confirmation / high transaction throughput and yet ***I*** get called eccentric for pushing a cheap microcomputer board as the basis of a Crypti Lite sales terminal and pushing for the early organization of their growing user base as potential customers. So be it.  |
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Your ideas so are far to eccentric to be practically implemented, or have any use to Crypti (or any other crypto-currency) for that matter. I remember a while back you suggested an idea somewhat similar to this, whereby the Crypti Team spend thousands of dollars into buying low-cost Raspberry Pi's (correct me if I'm wrong), and give these for free to merchants to incentivise them to run Crypti nodes and use Crypti as a source of payment. Again that idea would have no practical use, would waste tons of money and provide almost zero growth to Crypti.
I apologize Mal if I come off as condescending, rude or if I sound offensive at any point in my post, but that is the brutal truth.
No apology necessary, I have a thick skin and I appreciate somebody that calls it like they see it. I don't think you are condescending, rude or offensive. 99% of progress in a forum environment is overcoming crap, and I certainly have produced my share of that. The Raspberry Pi idea of mine you refer to is back before DPoS when there was some hope / assumption that a simple CPU on the other end of a DSL line could participate as a forging node in the Crypti network. We are way beyond that now and I would not suggest the same concept today. I still feel, however, that the idea of putting simple computers in the hands of merchants is a key part of making Crypti a success. This explains my continuing fascination with small computers like Raspberry Pi and CHIP-$9. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ultimately Crypti has to be used as a currency, which means a method of exchange between a buyer and a seller. All the effort to support such an exchange capability so far has gone into cool UIs on a desktop computer environment. Our current UI is not something a vendor is going to routinely use to accept payments of Crypti in a sales environment. There needs to be a simple, small point-of-sale terminal continuously connected to the internet that a purchaser or vendor can use to accept Crypti without having to manually type in a long Crypti address or an even longer password. The core of such a point-of-sale device is going to be something like a Raspberry Pi or CHIP -$9 that can run node.js via Linux. A smartphone would be better, but as I pointed out above (and nobody has contradicted me on yet) node.js programs like Crypti and mobile platforms are not currently very compatible. Maybe / hopefully there is some other way to making Crypti a "success" faster than the "Get cheap computers running Crypti to vendors" path I keep harping on. Maybe the Foundation is already on this other path and I'm totally clueless. I hope so. Getting Crypti in front of eyeballs for consideration is a totally different effort, and I accept your analysis that CHIP-$9 is not the right "advertising" approach. But...what is? |
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Mal, this may be the greatest product since sliced bread, but it is a lousy investment for a crowd sale.
How much profit do you think a $9 product delivers? 25-50 cents maybe? So how long will it take for an investor to get a ROI of 100%?
Delivery is 9 months away? 5000 units @ 50 cents profit each is nothing.
I hope you did not invest in it. We have a more lucrative crowd sale coming soon. Hold on to your benjamins!
I don't care at all about profitability or ROI of the CHIP computer. I care about its thousands and soon to be millions of user eyeballs seeing a Crypti Lite app icon on its main screen. This thing is going to go from a user base of zero to a user base of millions. We can act now to become their default cryptocoin they use among each other. Let's do that. |
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Our product roadmap is a personal server which can link with other units to create a cloud network which is decentralized and owned by the users. The user can either store his data just on his own system or have it securely backed up and available on the cloud. The storage coins, Storj, Maidsafe, and Sia are still in early development so our initial product is a Bitcoin full node which can also be used as a full node for other coins.
I am a little confused about how this product roadmap leads to a vendor that can easily accept Crypti for payment. When / how does THAT capability come about? Our plan has been to go to a custom board to reduce costs by removing unused components and increase RAM when volume is sufficient. The $9 CHIP shows what is possible... other comparable products are likely to appear in the meantime.
Like this? Which runs node.js? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/706167548/dominoio-an-open-hardware-wifi-platform-for-things |
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The suggestion to develop a Crypti version for the CHIP is a good one, and they are local here in Oakland, so maybe we can arrange to meet.
I have even better option than $9 CHIP. Someone's Android phone. They already have it - so it's free. Just install Crypti Lite there. I agree this is a great idea. However, Crypti is written in node.js. The advantage of the CHIP-$9 is that it runs Linux, which means it can run node.js, which means it can run Crypti. So Crypti could reach 5,000-10,000 CHIP-$9 owners starting upon its initial release in Dec 2015 - Jan 2016. Running node.js natively as a compiled application in Android is theoretically possible but yet to be demonstrated, and impossible on iOS / iPhones. There is "bridge" software under development called JXCore ( technically a fork of node.js) that will allow node.js software to run on Android AND iOS. This may be the most promising path to get Crypti running on mobile, but it is probably going to take a while. See: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2838799/node-js/next-up-for-nodejs-going-mobile.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-rinaldi/build-mobile-apps-with-ja_b_6786920.htmlhttp://www.infoworld.com/article/2886740/application-development/nodejs-variant-jxcore-goes-open-source-aims-for-mobile-developers.htmlhttp://jxcore.com/home/Crypti devs, I am not a node.js programmer, I just talk like one in forums to sound smart and impress people. Please correct me where I am wrong in my analysis above.Getting Crypti on mobile is critical. All of the visible work so far is getting it onto desktops with a pretty UI, but the world is shifting away from desktops towards mobile devices and Crypti needs to as well. What's the plan / timeline for that? If we cannot get Crypti running on an Android smartphone by Jan 2016, I STRONGLY urge that we work to get it running for 10,000 CHIP-$9 users by Jan 2016. Please discuss this in today's meeting if possible.CHIP-$9 is taking off like a rocket. They wanted to raise $50K, they currently have $750K pledged in the FIRST FIVE DAYS and they've still got 25 days to go. They have added a second batch of deliveries for 5K units in Jan 2016 because their 5K units for Dec 2015 delivery have sold out. CRYPTI NEEDS TO PIGGYBACK ON THE CHIP-$9 PROJECT WHERE BITCOIN CANNOT AND SO BECOME KNOWN AMONG ITS SUPPORTERS, MANY OF WHOM HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY CRYPTOCOIN. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer |
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Our team has looked at the Chip $9 computer. This can run Crypti with 512 Mb RAM and 4 GB onboard flash for storage. The kernel kit looks worth buying. Chip could have a lot of IoT apps, comes with Bluetooth and up to N WiFi. The analog video is a nice touch, enough for a video interface without all the overhead of HDMI.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computerhttp://makezine.com/2015/05/07/next-thing-co-releases-worlds-first-9-computer/I've thought some more (always a dangerous thing) about this $9 CHIP computer. Their general public release is a year away. The CHIP $9 computer could take off like a rocket starting May 2016. Raspberry Pi sold FIVE MILLION of their ORIGINAL SINGLE CORE computer in three years - and THAT cost $35 or FOUR TIMES as much as the CHIP unit!!! https://www.raspberrypi.org/five-million-sold/If Crypti is going to win, it's got to play a long game and associate itself with other products and services that are going to grow big Big BIG. This CHIP unit is definitely in that category. There are two ways to play this and leverage Crypti off of CHIP-$9. First, we can do a port of Crypti Lite, wait for CHIP-$9 to come out a year from now, put out press releases saying look at us, isn't our CHIP-$9 Crypti app cool, and compete starting May 2016 for the attention of the public against all of the other developers doing a million other cool things with CHIP-$9. This is the standard play, and it probably won't succeed. Second, we can try to get ALL THE OTHER CHIP-$9 DEVELOPERS to incorporate Crypti / DAPP into the CHIP-$9 starting RIGHT NOW. Assuming all their funding options sell out on Kickstarter, the CHIP gang is planning on sending out 1000 units in September 2015 and 5000 units in December 2015 to their earliest adaptors and developers. What if we got in touch with the CHIP-$9 team RIGHT NOW and offered a 10XCR faucet to their 1000 Sept 2015 and 5000 Dec 2015 backers? We could have 6000 new Crypti users by the end of the year at a cost of 60,000 XCR, and these new users would be motivated to incorporate Crypti into their own vendor / DAPP / development efforts on the CHIP-$9. The sales pitch to CHIP would be that Bitcoin requires a $3000 card to run a "mining node" or Bitseed's own $150 card to run a "personal node", so the CHIP-$9 will never be capable enough to support Bitcoin. But it IS capable enough to support Crypti from day one. So...is anybody in the Foundation interested in reaching out to the CHIP team RIGHT NOW and trying to work with them to establish a cryptocoin capability option for their initial alpha CHIP-$9 sponsors in September? <I've cross-posted a version of this post to the main Crypti Board: http://forum.crypti.me/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=95&p=282#p282 . Discuss here or there... > |
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Our team has looked at the Chip $9 computer. This can run Crypti with 512 Mb RAM and 4 GB onboard flash for storage. The kernel kit looks worth buying. Chip could have a lot of IoT apps, comes with Bluetooth and up to N WiFi. The analog video is a nice touch, enough for a video interface without all the overhead of HDMI.
Back their project at the Kernel Hacker level for $150 and get a Chip alpha board this Sept instead of next May (a whole YEAR from now!). Any interest in doing this to try to be the first Cryptocoin on this thing? Let's discuss quickly before all KH slots are gone. I'll kick in some cash if required but for $150 cash isn't even the issue. Any of us could go solo on this. The question is, can we push Crypti in a new and unique way with this that will slipstream us to the top. Anybody got ideas and a path/plan? Or would we be better off working on a Crypti Lite node that could run as an Android app on a smartphone and let THAT be our perfered HW platform? |
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