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13021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 08:16:44 AM
Tell me something you ungrateful jerks.

If I remove the whole 1%, how do I get paid?  You guys get paid doing nothing off a program I thought of.  You run your computer and go watch a game - not exactly work.

But I thought of it, I paid for it, I had the decency to build it to your liking which wasn't easy so where'sy payoff?

Tell me how would I get paid and if you say mine it then you're communistic jerks.  No inventor me CEO of a company has to go on the assembly line.  This is why no deb ever have a shit about making a people's coin cause you guys aren't happy with a coin to give you an edge, your jealously blinds you into hating the very person that cared enough to make you better off.

From now on, if I ever design another coin I'll be sure it will be for those with huge rigs and optimism them to take as much from the little guy as possible cause that's what you guys deserve wnen you chase away the one guy fighting for your needs.

Good night - I can't take this stupidity and hatred anymore.
13022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 08:11:34 AM

Of course I'm trying to get paid.  Are you and unthinkingbit working for free?  Is 1% so much?  This is absurd.  Show me one dev makings as than 1% iniding all the I sider buys and back door schemes.  Nobody she's this for free.

You know, nevermind, nothing but haters and jealous people in here looking out for their own self interest.

I have to apologize for earning 1%?  Anahaaaaaa.  Wnen hell freezes over.

I'll leave it as a premine since no matter what I do the haters come out with a new excuse.

Well, then don't be surprised if someone copy/paste your coin, remove the 1% for the dev and release the coin with no premine under a new name  Smiley

Right, and that guy will do it for free, right.  He won't make any money.  Abanaaaaa.

You guys lay pools 2-3% and they do noting for you. I come up with an idea to make mining more fun and reward the small guy the most and I don't deserve 1% lousy percent.  Talk about u grateful greed.
13023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 08:09:32 AM
Just premine or take your 1% and be done with it. The fact you are making such a big deal about this just proves that you know its not the right thing to do. The whining has overstayed its welcome. You are getting ridiculous man. At this point it feels like begging and we are not going to throw you a pity parade. Take your cut or don't. I really don't think anyone cares anymore. Youre going to kill your coin before you even launch it if you keep this baby shit up

I'm trying to find the best solution for everyone and you're still not happy?  Sad.

You're trying to benefit yourself. You've started the same thread multiple times hoping for different results but getting the same reaction each time. You're being greedy thats all there is to it

1% is greed, eh?  But your 99% is t greed, you earned that, right.  You didn't think about it and you just plug your computer in and go to the beach but your 99% is no greedy.  If not for guys like me thinking of new better ways for you to make money doing nothing your lazy way of making money would end quick.
13024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 08:05:10 AM
Just premine or take your 1% and be done with it. The fact you are making such a big deal about this just proves that you know its not the right thing to do. The whining has overstayed its welcome. You are getting ridiculous man. At this point it feels like begging and we are not going to throw you a pity parade. Take your cut or don't. I really don't think anyone cares anymore. Youre going to kill your coin before you even launch it if you keep this baby shit up

I'm trying to find the best solution for everyone and you're still not happy?  Sad.

Bullshit, you are trying to find a coin you can get 1% of, and so determined to do that that you are even willing to commission the creation of yet another crapcoin if that is what it is going to take to get you 1% of a coin.

-MarkM-


Of course I'm trying to get paid.  Are you and unthinkingbit working for free?  Is 1% so much?  This is absurd.  Show me one dev making less than 1% including all the Insider buys and back door schemes.  Nobody does this for free.

You know, nevermind, nothing but haters and jealous people in here looking out for their own self interest.

I have to apologize for earning 1%?  Anahaaaaaa.  When hell freezes over.

I'll leave it as a premine since no matter what I do the haters come out with a new excuse.
13025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 08:01:33 AM
I have been following nugget for a while and I must agree 1% IS a lot but it is to help the coin. People really shouldnt complain because it will help them in the long run. If you really wanted to make money you would copy and paste and then premine it without telling people. What you have done is add innovation and trying to help the coin with this.
every coin says that, and every coin most of the premine is dumped to the market by devs. So don't pretend to be "helping the coin". There's no need to do premine to help the coin. The way to help the coin is to have a great community and good supporting team.

But if it is in a public address you can see what the dev does with it. Why make a quick $$$ when you can help the coin enough to make a lot more of it?

I tried that but the second these guys hear premine they go crazy.  I was even willing to put it in an escrow account and lock it up 6 months.  Nothing.  Premine shuts off all their common sense.
13026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 07:59:39 AM
Just premine or take your 1% and be done with it. The fact you are making such a big deal about this just proves that you know its not the right thing to do. The whining has overstayed its welcome. You are getting ridiculous man. At this point it feels like begging and we are not going to throw you a pity parade. Take your cut or don't. I really don't think anyone cares anymore. Youre going to kill your coin before you even launch it if you keep this baby shit up

I'm trying to find the best solution for everyone and you're still not happy?  Sad.
13027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 07:57:10 AM
Just look at how DeVCoin adds in all the payouts to the coinbase transaction.

What you want is much easier as you don't have to go read a file of who to pay what fraction of the payout, you can just hard-code an address that gets 1%.

-MarkM-


If I give you the name to the programmer can you please give him and idea cause he's not able to do it.  I'll PM you his name but he wants to remain anonymous be she's he has a a good rep and wants no part of this.  I would be so thankful.  This Mob may even go for the 5% for bounties as long as it wasn't premined.  Thank you so much, Mark.
13028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Confirming Devcoin Address on: July 14, 2013, 07:46:24 AM
I sent 23 dvc coins to the new writers below to confirm the devcoin address:

Eroxors
Luckybit
Nsddev
Pb321go
Redmist

For those on the list, please check that you received the coins, the receiver files will be generated in a day.


Thanks, unthinkingbit.

Quick question which others are wondering.  Normally there's a 1,000 block heads up before the round is officially over.  This round there was no heads up or is this that heads up and we now have another 1,000 blocks to write or contribute for round 25?  Thanks.
13029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / HELP!!!!! Premining HELL - Need HELP!!! on: July 14, 2013, 07:21:52 AM
I'm getting ready to release a truly fair coin with the number one target market in mind being the miners.  They are the forgotten demography yet the most important to any coin's survival.

I developed this coin with the miner in mind and even when I badly wanted one feature like SHA256 I gave in to their wish for Scrypt.  The same was true for numerous features and issues.

Now I'm at an empasse and there's no way around it.  I didn't go cheap, I hired a good programmer with good experience and a great rep.

I made it clear that I hate premining but he told me that pre mining my 1% was the easiest way and any other way, otherwise I would require more money, time and another programmer.  

PLEASE HELP!

I want to release this coin for the people the miners but this is causing a problem.  I can't get rid of the 1% because that's my only reward and I will be working 70-80 hours per week on this and this Nuggets coin may may never be worth anything but its worth a chance cause I really enjoy it.

So far I've given in to every demand but I cannot just give up this 1%. I don't know any dev working for less and it's not right, I'm creating a new coin which will really help and benefit the small miner the most and I'm return many are angry at 1%.  I'm Quite shocked.  I'm not a bum off the street, a gold two degrees and earned nearly $10,000 at my last job at Well Fargo Bank - you get what you pay for.

My question is, is there a programmer here that can help me - can you make the 1% to be paid out gradually as it gets mined over the next 7 years? Cause the problem isn't the 1% as much as getting it all now. People are scared of pump and dumps and I can't blame them.

I even offered to put my coins In escrow or a public wallet so I can't sell them but there's so much anger towards me that nobody can think clearly.

I hope to launch this coin soon so if anyone can help I would be very grateful and I wish I could pay you a bounty but the miners also forced me to ban the 5% premine which would have gone to bounties, rewards, etc.  

I feel like my hands are tied and I wish they would just trust me only 1/10th of the trust I have showed them.

Please help me!


Edit:


   

I EMAILED THE PROGRAMMER TO REMOVE THE 1% premine.

Now there's ZERO premine.

This is not America!

Unreal!!!





13030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 06:58:18 AM
I'm curious why you feel you deserve the 1% anyway? You talk about all your hard work, but you hired two programmers to do it for you...

I've been on here 16 hours per day.  And paying someone else means I had to earn that money so it is my work.if you think 1% is south money then by All means, start this same coin and do it for free.

Can't you guys see that 1% is a joke?  No dev gets only that much.  There's so many insider ways to get coins and back doors you guys have no clue.

Here I am being honest and happy with 1% and you guys aren't happy.  Talk about selfish greed.

I understand now why no dev have a damn about making a coin to suit you guys.  

I'm Highly educated so my time is worth way more,  and I work hard and expect to be here all day long and most nights. And 1% is actually a joke to me.  I only accepting it cause I have high hopes that it will be worth way more one day otherwise I wouldn't waste one hour on this coin for 1%.
13031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
Can we get back to a logo.

Don't let the small minds detour you.  A coin giving 99% to miners and designed to help the smaller miner is a huge win.  Don't let fools being paid by other coins to subvert this coin affect your judgement.  They're jealous haters and don't want competition.

Lets focus on a logo, a nice miner's coin. 

I promise to pay out of my pocket if I see one I really like


How about 500,000 devcoins?  That's not a bad reward. 

Thank you guys and lets stay positive!
13032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 06:28:10 AM
It's funny how everyone uproars about other coins (aka powercoin which was like ~.004% premine FOR giveaways, bounties ETC), yet everyone is chilled with this guy personally holding 500,000 nuggets on the ready to be dumped and wanting to premine a FURTHER 5% for bounties, giveaways...

Makes sense...  Roll Eyes



Maybe you can't read, the 5% is gone.  There's no premine except my 1% fee.

You think that a lot.  Start your own coin, pay the money, spend 12-16 hours per day here and make nothing.

Why don't you mention the coins that keep 80%, 90%, ripple keels 50 BILLION, and the list goes on.

Stop being a hater cause unlike the other coins this coin will at least give some advantage to the miners and make mining more fun.

What a communist to think that a person will work 80 hours per week for free.  I hold two Degrees. My last bank job payed me nearly $10,000 per month.

You think I'm gonna work for nothing?  Get your head checked you hater.

If you guys keep doing this you will chase away any half talented guy and be stuck with regards.

And like I said, 1% is what matters, the amount of coins doesn't as the price is a function of coins outstanding.  DEVcoin is at .00001 cause it has nearly 6 billion coins and growing to infinite.  While LTC is at $2,50 cause it has just under 100 million coins
Then you have coins like freicoin or fearherxoin within nearly 500 million coins and china coin with over 500 million coins.

It's all relative to the float.  I chose a coi number so there would be enough to go around in case it got popular. It's 1%, and it doesn't matter how many since the ultimate value depends on the total coins in the system. 

But I fully expect haters to belly ache if the total coins are 100 million cause that's 5 times more than Bitcojn and they'll shit themselves of its 500 million cause that's as many as china coin and they're communists, and birth a cow if its 1 billion cause that's too close to ripple's 100 Billion coins.

I chose a number which made the most sense and my 1% would have givens the same wealth, if any, regardless of how many coins outstanding cause in the end the value is fully dependent on that factor.

But I'm sure ill have to explain this to the haters 10 more times once I announce the details of the launch tomorrow.

And one more time - I will put all my coins so everyone can see them and see that I will not sell a single coin.  Fore it's all or nothing.  This coin makes it big or I'll loser money, time and effort but I'm
Getting exhausted by the mindless accusations when I've worked so hard to give you guys exactly the coin you want and you have still not seen it in action.

Mine it just one day and if its not the most fun and rewarding coin you've mined then kill it.
13033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A Coin Made Especially for Miners. on: July 14, 2013, 06:07:40 AM
WE NEED A LOGO ASAP.

Go to the logo thread I started 2 hours ago and submit a logo. The programmer I hired needs a logo for the client.  Lets work together and get a logo up, something e retinue will love.

I want something classic but it can be funny.  When the masses come in the coin face, the logo will make a huge difference.  Thanks guys!
13034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A Coin Made Especially for Miners. on: July 14, 2013, 06:05:43 AM
Let me clarify.


Like I've done all along I listened to the miners.  I dropped the 25% to 10% to 5% and wnen people are not happy with pre mining for bounties I now just called the programmer and told him to kill the 5% so the only thing getting premixed is my 1%.

So you guys get 99% and I get 1%.  I didn't want a premine cause I know it looks bad but the programmer which I picked the one with the best rep and the most expensive said this was the easiest way as the other way to get 1% while mining would require way more. Programming, cost way more and he wanted me to find another programmer. 

So I had no choice but to go with the 1% premine.

I promise to put the 1% in a wallet that can be checked by anyone to see its not being sold.  I'm all about long term.  I trusted you guys with you choices which I disagreed with now I'm asking just one favor, just one:  trust me for just 1 week.  See for yourselves this is not a game, I'm being honest and I will break myself to get this coin off the ground.

I designed this coin for the miner and everything about it besides the 1% was all you guys.  I put the power in your hands so please just show me the same respect until I let you down just once.

This coin can be the greatest, lets not bicker over nothing - lets do this together and watch the value skyrocket.  Be generous with me the way I was kind, understanding and generous with you.  I am not the normal dev, pleas don't drive me away - I see things like no other Dev, don't pushe away with constant bickering. 

This is just the beginning, if nuggets works I promise bigger and better things which most devs obviously can't even imagine let alone put into practice.

Please give me just 1/10th the trust I have given you for just 1 week.
13035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A Coin Made Especially for Miners. on: July 14, 2013, 05:55:05 AM
In reality, if you idea is that good, 50 coins will pop the very next day with your VGB protocol.

Exactly. If the idea is good, someone is going to take your source code and remove the part that gives you 1% or whatever premine you have and release it as his own coin. Now why would I mine your coin and give you 1% instead of the copy where I get 100% of the reward?


Right, cause the other guy is gonna do it all for free right.  Cause he's a priest.

Can you people see that all devs have schemes to make money which you don't know about?

At least with me you know it's only 1%.  What about coins that only give you 50%, 20% or a paltry 10%?  Why are you guys mining those coins.

Ate you guys being a bit greedy and selfish to say:  thanks for a great way for the little guy to make more coin and have more fun mining it but I'm not happy with 99%, I want your 1% too.

No wonder nobody ever bothered to make a coin for the miners before, you guys are more greedy than the 1%.  I regret even thinking I could help out the little guy.

I was so naive and this makes me so sad.
13036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 05:49:35 AM
Back to the logo.


The coin is almost ready.

Please guys, I wish I had bounty money to give out but you all voted down the 5% premine so there's no bounty.

But please come up with a coin ASAP and when this coin launches I'll find a way to repay the deaigner even if it's with dollars from my pocket.

Thanks guys.
13037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 05:47:41 AM
And as a bonus wait until I unveil the VGB protocol, miners will love it.  That's your bonus - this protocol will be what makes this coin a miner's coin.
Just to be sure, this was the feature that will make the coin reward small miners proportionally more than large miners, while magically making sure big miners don't pretend to be many small miners? Sounds like easy profits for any big miners that trivially subvert it.


I've said it before, there's no way to subvert this protocol.  No way for the big guy to scam the little guy.  You guys don't get it cause you're not finance guys you're computer guys so your mind is on tech stuff.
I'm a programmer that specializes in application and network security, and I can't think of any plausible way to do what I've seen described with the VGB protocol. Am I to believe that the VGB protocol will automatically detect large miners' botnets and server farms and penalize them?

Even the programmer when I told him he said: oh, that's cool, man.  So I'm glad to hear that.
I remain less than convinced.

So just give it a chance don't flip out at the 5% premine.  Most coins use schemes to get way more coins.  IxCoin got 20% and many others much more.
No wonder ixcoin isn't all that popular. You seem to be aiming really high in what other currencies you're comparing yourself to.

I'll PM you the programmer and talk to him.  If you can paye the 1% without premine then that's great.

IxCoin is but one example.  There's many more. Ripple keels 50%.  Feathercoin or frei only gives out 20% while keeping 80 for themselves. DEVcoin keeps 90%.  Lets get really. 

The total number of coins makes no difference as far the 1% goes, cause the value of a coin, just like a stock will be a direct function of the total coins outstanding.

Fact remains, if anyone thinks 1% is tooth to think up a good coin, spend endless hours trying to get it right, making it tailored for the miners and paying to launch it then spending 12 hours per day supporting it, if anyone thinks 1% is too much, regardless if its 1% of 100 Billion like Ripple of 1 million then that person is utterly selfish or basically a communist.

Find me just one DEV who is doing this for less than 1% and I'll drop the fee. What most of you don't get is that devs have back doors where they pay themselves plenty of coins.  I'm offering full honesty, true transperacy - you will not get this anywhere and in return I only ask 1%.

I have bent on everything and let you guys have your way with e try with but the 1% is not moving.  I wanted SHA256 badly but gave in to Scrypt, I wanted a catchy name like SantaCoin but gave in to Nuggets, I wanted 25% to give back to miners but you guys said 10%, I said ok, then when the oy way was premine you all said not even 5% was ok, which I thought was a bad idea but I have in.

I have given in to everything to prove I'm being honest when I say this is a miners coin.

Please talk to the programmer, as I hired the most expensive one on here and the one with the best rep - everyone I talked to said he's really good.

Ask him if I did not push for all these things and they were just not possible without spending way more money, way more time and having to hire more programmers.

I trusted all of you.  All I ask is that you trust me on 1 thing - the 1% fee.  I will make the wallet public so anyone can see before I sell a sige coin.  This is not a lump and dump for me I want this coin to survive and do well.

I will do all I can I clouding pay out of pocket to make this the best coin out there but this incessant, non-stop hatred and negativity has to stop cause I have bent over backwards to make the best coin posdie for you guys.

Wait until you experience the VGB protocol - even the programmer loved it and he's a techno guy.

Please, let's treat each other with respect, I think I've at least earned that much.


Thank you.
13038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 04:42:40 AM
OK.  Listen up.

If you don't want premine I will cancel it cause its not too late.

But then don't cry to me that there's no bounties.

My fee is 1%.  That's not greedy, that chicken shit pay.

And I will not dump my 1%.

So if you guys want NO premine I'll cancel it now.  No premine.  1% goes to me and 99% to you, the miners.

But please get off my ass with the 1% cause I'm not doing this for less.

I thought the 5% premine would be great for the coin but you guys do t trust anyone so it's your loss.

SO THERE IT IS, NO PREMINE.  Just my 1% cause the programmer says its the easiest way to do it.

I'll put my 1% in a wallet which you guys can check to see I'll never sell my coins.

Once again you guys win, I'll do what you want although I think it's a mistake as all coins find schemes to pay out for bounties.

So the bounties will have to come from the miners.

Ok?  NO PREMINE, the 5% premine is now DEAD!
13039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 04:33:50 AM
No premine!  

Why would I want to mine NUGs if you already have a stockpile that you are sitting on?

I don't think you can say this is a coin for miners if you already have premined 5% of the coin...



If you guys want i will dump those coins, all of them on you guys in the first week.  Every coin.

Can you guys not see I'm not the regular dev?

I will do anything you want with that 5% premine.  Name it and ill do it.

How can I give people bounties?  How can we develop this coin faster if there's no coins to hand out?

I left it up to you guys and all your answers were I should pay for it out of a lousy 1%.  Lets get real.

And look at all the other coins, clever schemes which yield devs way more than 5%.
13040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nuggets Launching: Coin Graphics on: July 14, 2013, 04:30:08 AM
And as a bonus wait until I unveil the VGB protocol, miners will love it.  That's your bonus - this protocol will be what makes this coin a miner's coin.
Just to be sure, this was the feature that will make the coin reward small miners proportionally more than large miners, while magically making sure big miners don't pretend to be many small miners? Sounds like easy profits for any big miners that trivially subvert it.


I've said it before, there's no way to subvert this protocol.  No way for the big guy to scam the little guy.  You guys don't get it cause you're not finance guys you're computer guys so your mind is on tech stuff.

Even the programmer when I told him he said: oh, that's cool, man.  So I'm glad to hear that.

So just give it a chance don't flip out at the 5% premine.  Most coins use schemes to get way more coins.  IxCoin got 20% and many others much more.

5% is not much and I promise you guys I will convince you beyond a doubt that every coin will go back to you guys.  I will leave no doubt in any of your minds.  I give you my word and I have yet to lie to you guys so please just give me the benefit of the doubt, just for a few days and watch how fast and furious I'll unload those coins to all of you.
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