So does anybody know if there's a 1,000 block pre-warning coming or is 97,300 the final block for round 25?

Every round since I've been here has had a 1,000 block heads up before the round actually ended and I even read it on devtome back then and it sounded like standard protocol.

Thanks once again.

The VGB protocol isn't closed and it can be copied by anyone once it gets out.

It's simply something that cannot be abused or subverted or overcome while rewarding everyone who mines while rewarding the smaller miners more.  

So many miners here and nobody is even interested in this at least for themselves.  I hardly mine Desiree the difficulty is too high for my crappy rig yet I still care enough to have come up with a protocol that I think will work and improve the mining enjoyment and reward for everyone.  

What does a guy have to do to get a programmer on board.  For crying out-loud, I'm paying for it and most programmers can do this in an hour or two.  This is really quite shocking.

Well, no point nesting a dead horse.  

If there's a programmer who wants something better for yourself and your fellow man then let me know.  

Take care, everyone.   God bless!

Hold on, you have your own coin or you've launched a coin?  Are you a programmer?  TIA.

Thanks for the advice by the way.

I'm trying so hard to create a coin which really helps the little guy while also rewarding the big guy which is not easy to do but I found the special feature just for that I think and in return I only ask 1% and I get so much hate from the very miners this new coin would really help.

It bothers me so much I'm ready to just quit.  Or maybe these haters are working for other coins and they don't want competition.

I wish I can find just one programmer to help me out cause I'm convinced such a coin would flourish cause it genuinely caters to the miner while making mining better for everyone.

I'm starting to feel hopeless.

There is no way around, over, under, to subvert or to abuse the VGB Protocol and it benefits everyone but especially the smaller miners which is the majority.

That's why I want to launch this coin.  I can't believe I'm having such a hard time doing something good for this alt community. 

So many people get hung up on such small things which can be worked out like 1% layout for me which is less than any dev I've ever seen or the 10% which can be worked out something or even banned if that's what people want.

This coin could be such a nice coin for all miners but especially the small miners and yet I see nothing but combative individuals splitting hairs.  So odd.  So sad.  Such a loss to themselves. 

But thanks for your input - you sound like a programmer or at least self educated. If I knew how to program I'd launch this thing myself and I have no doubt people would love the idea once they saw the benefits themselves. 

No more dead flatlined coins, no more boring mining, no more hopeless mining just cause you have a smaller rig. 

This is so unreal and so frustrating I'm ready to just quit this idea which is tragic cause I truly wanted to do it for small miners such as myself and big miners would also benefit as well.

Excuse me but how in the world do devs get paid?  I don't want some sneaky scheme to get paid.  I can't believe 1% is actually even a discussion.  It's crap.  Only it the coin takes off will it be worth anything and if that happens it means I ran a successful coin and then I would deserve it much like a CEO who runs a successful company so I really don't get the issue with 1%, it's chicken feed compared to most coins out there who pay out way more to their devs and founders.

Why do I have to run a scheme, why can't I say 1%, and be it 1% with no strings attached?  All founders, all devs get premined coins or some special payouts and I purposely chose 1% because it's lower than anything I've ever seen or heard of any dev get, yet I'm dumbfounded to see so many haters hate on a paltry 1% when many devs get so much more and nobody complains and here I am trying to build a coin which benefits the miners more than anyone else and I see nothing but hate.

No wonder nobody has ever bothered to do something for the community, for the miners, most of you want a better coin but you want to see the guy who thought of it and made it a reality to be living under a bridge.  How tragic!

Next:  the premine of 10% would be to give back to miners so why would I lie and say it's for bounties, etc.?  I don't want to BS about anything, I want to totally honest about everything and bounties will have to come from the community and in part from myself as well, just like they do with all other successful all coin.

But there has to be a viable way to do this right besides making me do all this for free, that's absurd.  And since I'm doing this coin for miners I want them to get that 10% to help them get to the next level, by buying better rigs - something that might otherwise take them years to do.  But if you miners want me to designate 5% or 10% for development and bounties and account for every coin so there's no funny business then that's fine but I think miners should get this 10% as a payout but I'll do it any way you guys want as long as it's what most of you want. 

Just like I badly anted SHA256 but switched to Scrypt cause that's what you guys wanted.

I'm willing to do it anyway possible - I have no ulterior motives so anything you guys can think of I will implement but don't expect me to do all this for less than 1% cause that's the lowest any dev had ever been paid.  I'll take it even one step further if needed, I would even put that 10% in an escrow account.  I would even put it in a wallet belonging to someone chosen by miners from this board.  I can't believe there is no way such a seemingly simple issue when there is so much benefit for the miners - that's just not possible.

And if necessary I'll even abandon the 10% idea (like I gave up on SHA256, CatholicCoin, OrphanCoin, etc.,) but I would really like to keep it (the 10%), if there's any possible and fair way, as it would really help a lot of the smaller miners get ahead while also including the large miners as well.

Who's developing Bitcoin, Satoshi?

The community.  Or do you expect a dev to get 1% and then spend 16 hours per day here, pay a programmer and work for free or on 1% of nothing.

You guys are joking. 

And trying to find the best deal is not begging when you're on a limited budget.  And not getting responses from 2 guys doing this for a living for 3 days is not normal so asking why, respond to my emails is not exactly strange.

If this isn't the coin for you then choose another, there's plenty more where the devs are making tons of money yet nobody seems to complain over there.

I won't have any coins since there's no premine.  It seems like people are agent even the 10% premine which would then go right back to the miners.  Sad, many miners could benefit.

Begging?

When you pay someone to do something it's not begging.

When you go to a restaurant and order a steak and then pay for it would you like it if some guy outside told people you were in there begging for food?  Hardly!

These are not junk developers.  They have experience launching other coins and they're actually the most expensive here.  I could have gone with the cheaper guys but I thought I'd get more from going with someone with integrity and experience.

The longevity depends on the adoption rate and if people like what the coin offers.  I'm looking at it long term, for years to come of the govt allows it that long.

The name came from brainstorming and a number of people had a hand in it.  Nuggets stuck and yes, if this coin takes off you get the honor for naming it.  I could have named it myself but I felt like a miner's coin should be named by miners - since the beginning I've been trying to do what's right and it seems like some people just hash away on me regardless of how hard I try to do what's fair and right by everyone.

I was only talking about the money aspect.  Cause its upsetting to see any normal person suggest 1% is a lot.

I was thinking of coins like freicoin which keeps 80% and nobody knows what charity it's for or when? Ripple, 100 Billion with insider keeping 50 Billion.  IxCoin, who premined 20% of the coin.

And the list goes on.  So why is the truth insulting?  I personally don't care, they (devs) can make all the money they want, they deserve it, I just hate it when someone compares my 1% and calls it excessive even though there's so many coins with massive profits compared to my 1%.

I would just like some credit for trying to do something here where the number 1 goal is not profits.  That's not a lot to ask for, just some honesty.

When I first read devtome 3 months ago it said there was a 1,000 block heads up and during that time you could still write.  That's why I'm not sure if maybe this round that 1,000 block was never announced or if we do get 1,000 more blocks.

The VGB does that automatically and without a flaw.  The distribution of the 10% if I have to premine it is the hard part, cause I don't want to premine but the programmer said that's the only feasible affordable way and that my plans are too ambitions.

Come on MarkM, help me not launch another crapCoin.  Help me with just the idea of how to distribute this 10% to the miners in a fair way without premining cause right now it will have to be premined and that's gonna look like a pump and dump and I hate the very idea.  Thanks for your help.

Well, so far the programmer who has already launched other coins said the VGB idea as really nice.  And he also said my ambitions are too high and I'd need more money and more programmers.

So this confirms to me that I'm serious about this and don't just want a jack job crap coin.  But where am I gonna find more great programmers and I don't even know how much more money we're talking about.

I really wanna do this right but it doesn't seem possible.  I hate to launch another CrapCoin, I hate the idea of mediocrity. 

And I have to apologize to guys like MarkM ahead or time cause I respect the guy and like him and he got upset when he heard o was launching another crap coin.  But what can I do if I can't even find enough pro programmers and don't even know the cost. 

So is that 1,000 extra blocks already in this 97,300 or will it be added to the 97,300 and so then one can write until 98,300.  In the past there was always a 1,000 block heads up.  TIA.

50%?  Lol, are you talking about me?

It was 25% and that was when I thought it was $10,000 just to launch the coin.  And lets face it, 1% is a joke, most coins pay out way more via clever schemes which you guys have obviously not caught on to yet.

My 1% is fully transparent and there's no way that's a lot given every dev takes way more.  And unlike most devs, except maybe devcoin, the first goal here is the miner while most new coins' main goal is enriching the few guys launching it.  1% is peanuts, its nothing unless the coin really takes off which is no guarantee and if it does take off my 1% is nothing compared to the 99% of the masses, the miners.

Let's stay real here. 

Thanks for the advice.

I don't want to premine even 1 coin for myself and I wouldn't lie about it.  Look over my 3 months of posts and you won't find one lie.

I'm very happy with 1% and I can't believe som people hate on such a low amount given most devs use various schemes to get way more.

So what about 10% or its all intended to give back to the miners per their wishes and their choices.  I wouldn't decide where these coins would go but the miners since this is their coin.

If not what's the problem, the premine, lack of trust in me?  Can I premine it and put all the coins in the wallet of a third party - a person everyone here trusts?  I'm willing to do anything to prove this is not a pump and dump and the 10% is for the miners and not for me.

Or is it good enough to premine and out it in a public wallet anyone can watch and be it for miners.  Plenty of coins have done this - freicoin or feathercoin put 80% in a wallet for charity yet they haven't given a penny away.  Yet people bought it and the miners only get 20%. 

My plan is way more generous and I'd expect to give most of those coins away in the first few months or as fast as miners determine the best way for them.

This is the money's coin, you guys need to tell me ASAP what would make you guys happy.

I can eliminate the 10% but it would be such a list benefit to you guys.

And wait until I release the VGB protocol - that's the cake with the 10% distribution being the icing on the cake.

I promise there's nothing out there right now, no coin that was designed with the miner in mind like this coin.

And of course, devs design a coin to maximize their control over that coin and their profits, shirt term or long term.

I'm going against the Status Quo with this coin - and if you wait to hear the full details I'm sure you'll all agree.  Well, most, cause some will hate no matter what.  Lol

Miners would essentially get 99%, the 10% would be set aside for miners to help level the field a bit while never excluding the large miners.  It's win-win for everyone.

And why is 1% funny?  You think devs work for free?  Most take much more than 1% via many clever schemes.

At least I'm being forward.

Here's the problem thought regarding the 10% set aside for the miners.

I talked to the programmer and he's saying it can't be set aside in a special wallet, at least not in an easy affordable way.

So the only option now is a premine of 10% which would be put in either an escrow, a public wallet with anyone being able to view it or any other option you guys can think of.

I really don't want to walk away from the 10% idea csuse it would really help everyone but especially then smaller and new miners - relatively speaking.

Can anybody suggest a better solution as I really want to avoid a premine. 

And if there is no other option than a premine would most people here be ok with an escrow account or a premine which would go into a public wallet monitored by miners until minder decide the best way to distribute the coins? 

I'm ok with any way you guys want but I'd prefer to not abandon this 10% idea as it would greatly benefit the average and smaller miners.

Anybody?  TIA

318,000?  What?  That's the value (coins) per share or the number of shares?  No way shares jumped that high, can it be possible?

Thanks for the response.

i got about 4 or 5 sentences in and i already see a problem. its impossible(as far as i know but shake and mudda would know more about it) because there is no way to pregenerate an address prior to mining the genesis block. what you could do however, is mine the genesis block then immediately stop and create an address. then, enter your bits of code for your 10% system and recompile and distribute that client. it might work. my knowledge is to limited to know, but shake and mudd probably will.

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I don't really understand what you're saying but its similar to what Shakazula said.  So you're saying basically premine 10% of the coins and out them in a viewable public wallet, right.

That would be the most simple way but I hate the idea of premining cause all pump and dumpers have done that.  There had to be a way to do this and still have people trust that you're not trying to scam them.  Man!!!