Lesson learned:  Don't mess with Finland.

Believe me I understand that point of view.  But look at it this way.  Fly over El Paso/Juarez, you see one big lump of civilization down there, not two.   That's the way it really is around here.  Going North, it becomes more "U.S.A".  By the time you are two hundred miles north, it is pretty much "U.S.A."

Actually I see societal benefits in making birth control freely available. 

The question here is whether it should be part and parcel of some sort of "National Health Insurance Program."  That begs the question not what should society benefit from, but what, exactly is INSURANCE?

Insurance is not paying for ALL MEDICAL COSTS.  Insurance is not placing society's interest above that of the individual.  Insurance is paying a portion of costs and covering catastrophic costs.

The interjection of politics into medicine will only have bad consequences. 

"Give them bread and circuses!"

Sad but true.  And Iron Dome neutralizes the terror and propaganda effects of their amateur rockets.

That is why I am impressed with the system.

So remember...it's not warming that means all that heats being stored up, like in a pressure cooker, way down in the deep.  And it's going to burst out, when GAIA says.  Then, like the climate whipsaws, and billions die.

Wait...okay I'm in the real world here, right, not the made up world? 

Forget all that.  LOL...

Well, yeah but there's easy 20 dead in a weekend just in Juarez, on the Mexico side of El Paso.  It's true that the bloodshed so far has been mainly on the Mexican side.  But keep in mind we're talking here about what often times is just a hundred yards difference.

LOL... I guess I could .... okay, confession.  See msg for a laugh...

Also, if you increase heat retention in the atmosphere by any means, including co2, the atmosphere expands, and there is more radiant losses to space because of the larger surface area of that expanded envelope.
Technically here we could say that the gas molecules have 1/2 their energy in kinetic and half in potential, but both increase when it gets hotter.  Potential energy means height against gravity, for an atmosphere.

This is a simple language proof that clouds rule climate, by the way.  That's why the CERN Cloud experiments were so important.  Real scientists know these details, the 8th grade CO2 argument is for the simple people.

Okay, I got it, and will give him credit for that, then.

Well, basically Islam is a belief set that dates from back when life and survival and prosperity was a zero sum game...you and your fiefdom take over the next fiefdom.  To do that you have to be crazier than them, more willing to die in battle.  That's how we define a successful culture historically, there ain't nothing nice about it.

I learnt everthang I needes har.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlMomLvu_4

An fom dis dude two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4

It's worth mentioning that this sort of thing is not condoned by the Koran, which notes that "people of the book", Christians and Jews, should be allowed to live peaceably as long as the pay loot to the rulers.

But once you have some people, eg women, considered more as property than human, then all kinds of stuff go.

Now where are those Predator drones when you need them?

Right, the suicide bomber who is told he has 2 hours to do the job or his family is killed.  But there is no need to look at individual motive, to understand terrorism, because it is defined by it's effects on the target and target population.

Okay, I'll buy that if and when such devices are used with the purpose of instilling fear into a population, as opposed to the rather simple matter of killing the enemy or imprisoning and yes, torturing him.

Stalin said something to the effect "the more innocent they be, persecute them that much more".  That's the essence of terrorism, coming from a Statist advocate of it's use.

First, it's extremely easy, as you've seen in this thread, to point out lies we are being told.  However, that really does not prove or disprove any fundamental questions.

Second, don't place too much credence in the "PdD in climatology".  That actually makes me laugh, because the guys that go into that field really are not the sharpest tools in the shed, and second, because that doesn't make them an expert in glaciers, sediment, atmospheric effects of gases...in any of a large number of scientific fields, unless by chance it is the specific field they studied.

"PdD in physics" is much more handy regarding the fundamental assumptions and questions of "global warming".

The computer models are not really helpful.  This is a very, very politicized field.

I suggest reading

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/02/global-temperature-update-still-no-global-warming-for-17-years-10-months/

for fun and entertainment.  Example as to why, let me quote the first two reader responses to the article linked to above.


R. Shearer says:   
August 2, 2014 at 8:03 am   

Someone asked here before, “What is the chance that a natural cooling is exactly cancelling out AGW?”


Leonard Weinstein says:   
August 2, 2014 at 8:21 am   

R. Shearer,
It does not matter if natural cooling exactly cancelled out AGW, or if there is no significant AGW. The supporters of CAGW insisted that CO2 is the main force that drives average temperature, and insisted it would totally dominate any natural variation (except short term volcanic effects). Skeptics have contended that either the forcing was much smaller than promoted, so that it was not a real problem, or that natural variation dominated the human CO2 contribution, so that it was not the main controlling method. These skeptics positions have been supported with actual data evidence, although which of the two factors is more important is not fully resolved.

The issue was the possible onset of a major rising temperature problem due to CO2 increase, and it has not been demonstrated. In fact, there is significant reason to think an average cooling trend for at least several decades is more likely than a warming trend, following the plateau.

Practically the only people that are regularly shooting and killing people down there are the Mexican drug cartels and gangs.

This is accurate, the geographical size of the lawless areas is expanding.    

In Mexico, the areas that are like war zones as far as I recall are only those next to the borders.

Some of my friends here (illegals) have told me they are not going back to Mexico because it's too dangerous.  Car hijackings, armed robberies, up to 100 miles south of the border.

Texas and the other border states can handle these issues, but the Washington crowd does not even understand them and puts a politics wrapper over the problems.

I am not of the opinion that this is "propaganda" in the traditional sense, because the actual war is being attempted to be waged in the media.  Not on the streets. 

Just like they attempted to wage the war in the media when the beheaded Americans and others that didn't happen to be on their side.

Generally, people that die crossing our southern border die from not having water.

Militia here do not ever shoot them.

Border guards never shoot unless it's a firefight, like with a drug gang.

Ranchers who own the land never shoot except in self defense.

The drug gangs kill very large numbers of people, check for example Juarez.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_homicides_in_Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez

Really?  You believe that?

Maher cowtows to Muslims because otherwise they'll threaten to kill him or bomb him and places that carry his work.  He knows it's safe to insult Christians and Jews.  You're looking not at natural responses, but an orchestrated performance.

Maher's a punk and a coward.

An hour and fourty minutes of Maher, the idea just makes me want to puke.

Yeah, or the fact that the old guys with money each grab four of the cutest ones, leaving them without even the uglies.  Which historically may have worked, because then the young men would, after having been forced into some army,  they'd venture out and expand the kingdom.  Meaning, they'd take over an area, kill all the men, then have the women.  But if they'd stayed home, no women....