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13141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: November 10, 2016, 04:02:09 PM
I think trading and gambling both is same. both have a risk and have a chance to win and get a profit, but I think to choose trade because trading more chance to win. I look sparse which win the gambling. it is my opinion if my opinion is wrong I say sorry.
thank you.

They are just the same in terms of the risk that you may get upon doing both. But trading has lesser risk rather than with gambling and I think most of the traders do gamble because they can just easily take the risk lightly with their trades. And for those trader who are not playing gambling games doesn't want to risk the profit they took from trading.
13142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does a President Trump mean for Bitcoin? on: November 10, 2016, 03:51:07 PM
No way he would know about it yet he is already a billionaire. If ever he is invested someone might be doing it for him or it will be introduced to that guy not directly to him.

But chances are there too that he would go for bitcoin, because he is a business man and as long as it is a good chance for him to get some profit for his nation and will be helpful, I guess he would support it but...

Donald Trump might try to either regulate Bitcoin and force people to pay taxes or outlaw all crypto currencies altogether in order to bolster the local bank cartels. Or if he is smart he might try to play both parties and collect Bitcoin taxes and appease the banks to keep them quiet.
Whatever he does I think the price of Bitcoin will go up because the general population is worried about Trump going berserk on the immigrant situation so I guess the majority of people will keep part of their salaries in a digital form legally or illegally.

this is what I'm being scared of, when Trump already has a knowledge about bitcoin and he already knew that it can be used for a tool of free transaction for a government that is not being covered by the law. This is possible to happen just like what happened to China from these past days.
13143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: November 10, 2016, 03:21:34 PM
EUROPE: World Cup - Qualification :

San Marino vs Germany => it will be an easy game for Germany team , it will be like a training game .
France vs Sweden   =>  France will be favorited in Home and with a good players like Griezman , Pogba , payet and Kante .
Romania vs Poland => It will be a difficult game for both teams , and i think there are many goals in this game and Poland will be the winner

I completely agree with one exception. I do not think that Romania v Poland will be having a lot of goals. I think it will be a close win for Poland with less goals, like a 0 -1 or 1 -2.
Also I would like to bet that Germany will make at least 6 goals.
I also bet on Wales v Serbia where Serbia will win,  Spain v Macedonia where Spain will win and Liechtenstein v Italia where Italia will make it.
it's tomorrow games right? the odds for germany vs san marino over 5.5 goals a little bit low @1.5 , however today games are CONMEBOL qualification zone , there is brazil vs argentina - uruguay vs ecuador and colombia vs chile these three big match worth to bet ! my double chance and draw no bet for brazil , ecuador and chile!

Yes it is and don't forget to watch for that game. This is going to be a tough game and the squad of both teams are good enough and no one will ever just give a single victory. Because both teams has the good standings so this is not going to be an easy game way for two of them, 7 points for team Poland and 5 points for Romania, all in all. But Poland will is my choice either so good luck for them to this fight.
13144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin quantity go down? on: November 10, 2016, 09:30:54 AM
Quantity  of  bitcoin  could not  go down but   the accesibility  of  each  one  of them  might  be restricted  because  of those  coins that  are lost  on bitcoin ecosystem  , same as  others said here that  people  who lost their  bitcoins    because  they  forgot   their  password and cant able   to access already to the wallet which  means  the coins  is still there  floating around.
There may be suspected criminals who have picked up your password. But this is unlikely. I do not think it's that simple. Purses have a very good level of protection.
If we use 2FA increase more security, opportunities for stolen our bitcoin almost impossible. I more believe you can guess the password 100 member on this forum without any wrong than steal your bitcoin in wallet with 2FA.

I don't believe that bitcoins can be stolen that very easy. Because it is the negligence of a bitcoin wallet owner whenever his bitcoin will be stolen. It's either his password was given to other people by him or forgot to close or log out his account. And upon being hacked, those bitcoins will remain forever and there is no way to recover it, and it will still count to the quantity of bitcoins.
13145  Economy / Services / Re: Simple online task for $5 (pay in Bitcoin) on: November 10, 2016, 09:22:00 AM
I've been seeing the same offer just like this offer and I don't know if they are real. But if this is for real, kindly message me the job that I need to do. And I am interested for this job you are offering. Just reply to my pm so that if I can do the offer, then I will take it for $5. I hope this is not the same as those other bogus offers.
13146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: November 10, 2016, 08:59:29 AM
There is no other coins to replaced bitcoin on the top bitcoin has a good progress since start and the adoption of more people are continuous it also help the great value of bitcoin to lure more people to invest and no other coin like good services of bitcoin.
Let's hope for that so we will continue to grow with our investment. In crypto world, everything is full of surprise or unpredictable so we need to be very careful with our judgement. Invest only what you can afford to lose and do not just put your investment in one basket.

I'm pretty sure that there are no other crypto currencies will ever replace bitcoin. Why? Because if you will google everything, bitcoin is the most popular in the world of crypto's and the people who have bitcoins are kinda scare to migrate with another crypto's since they already invested with big amount into this crypto coin.
13147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: India Bans Its Largest Fiat Currency Notes on: November 10, 2016, 08:47:48 AM
It's all a preparation for a cashless world! transactions - to track everyone and everything!

In India, mostly 90% or more transactions are done through cash and lot of black money, and duplicate notes are around. So government want to cut down all these things, so they have no other choice. This is the best way to stop using all those activities. It is actually good move but managed it even in a better way. It has caused lot of issues to common man in their daily life activities.

This is kinda a bit serious that India already forgotten their largest fiat currency. For sure that is needed for some serious matters. Because if a note will be totally ban by a government and its currency is totally worthless. And for sure, there are countries that will do the same move as India does, this is the start of the conspiracy of cashless society, 666 is already in the world.
13148  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Bitcoin designed to last forever? on: November 10, 2016, 08:34:05 AM
I am not thinking the original design will last forever, however I do think that the upgrades they will make to it as it moves forward will assist in it lasting for some time to come.  The way it sits now, I do not see it ending in my life time.
I also think that bitcoin is not designed to live forever, bitcoin risk to die when the price becomes zero, so it can be proved that bitcoin is not designed to last forever

It may not be designed to live forever but if we keep on using it then it can live for a longer days. A chance of making it to last forever is really high because we are in modern world and we are using modern technology. Transactions will be online and digital and bitcoin will be the medium of it, only if the world government will recognize its goodness.
13149  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: November 09, 2016, 03:13:49 AM
I was thinking about this, what if the US Dollar crashes like speculated by many renowned economists around the world?
What will be it's affects on the beloved currency, BTC?
if it happens then the bitcoin will adopt other currencies as an True unit of btc . Because usually we are seeing that the price of bitcoin in USD at blockchain , which is official , from long ago . so it may adopt some other currencies instead to distrub anything .

No it won't adopt other currencies, because together as the USD crashes, bitcoin will also crash. But that is possible, if bitcoin will just adopt other currencies before that crash and needs to have tighter value already as equivalent with its value in USD. But if that happens after the crash, then that will make it crash too.
13150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: November 09, 2016, 03:07:40 AM
there are some site that offer doubling bitcoin by trading that doing by bot. The bot will automaticaly buy bitcoin in cheap price than automaticaly sell bitcoin in higher price. We can profit four days letter and the profit is 2x. We Will get 100% profit. But We have to looking for the credible site, becouse there are some of the investment was turned into a scam.

When I am reading those people who are saying about 'doubling' your bitcoins. The first thing comes to my mind are the scamming sites such as cloud mining and HYIP, I don't know if they have something new to call for that scams. And I don't believe those type of investments that uses bot, because usually they are hiding their black plan to the investors.
13151  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: where you invest? on: November 09, 2016, 02:59:17 AM
hi guys where you invest, maybe I can follow you? Undecided
Sometimes I invest in ICO but leave it if know o have enough profit many coins is not good for long term investment. But trading is good start if you have enough knowledge.

I do also invest in ICO's but not all time, I usually check the road map of that coin before I trust them my bitcoins. And while my other bitcoins are being hold, I am doing trading also alone and as of now I am thinking if I will invest into bankroll casino's. Because that is on the hype and many people are investing their already.
13152  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Best selling item online for bitcoins? on: November 09, 2016, 02:55:14 AM
Hmm,in my opinion that should be electronics and gadgets because we can often see some deals online and also clothes I think is a big one.That should be the top selling products as far as I'm concerned.
I too believe that digital items are still the number one things being purchased, although that could change if we get some more adoption. Smiley

Digital goods are indeed the most sold thing for bitcoin these days, physical items are less more sold for bitcoin these days, that market still need to get more popular.

I do agree that digital goods are one of the best selling items online for bitcoins. For example, because of steam's acceptance with bitcoin their games are becoming now in demand as a lot of bitcoin users are gamers to that gaming platform. And there are some people who are also customers of VPN and other VIP memberships for a website.
13153  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how can i safe from scamer members.. on: November 09, 2016, 02:51:22 AM
Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

So you are asking how to be safe from people just like you? Just look upon on your trust a very trusted person here in forum gave you some red trust. But let's go back to your question, you can just simply ask an escrow so that you won't get scam transaction and only those trusted escrows here in forum, because scammers are everywhere.
13154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 09, 2016, 02:41:34 AM
How sad the so many people believe it is about luck. Come on, there is not really such a thing as luck. It is just something you create to explain why you lose. Winning is obviously about nothing more than mathematical probability and the problem of losing is connected to attemts to overcome this probability and win.

Really there is no such thing as luck? And then every time you gamble you are wishing that you will be lucky so that you can win some good amount as you gamble? For me, I do believe that it is because of luck every time you are receiving unexpected winnings, then you just need to be thankful that you are winning or what you called 'lucky' by that time that can't be calculated by scientific and mathematical probabilities.

Gambling is really based on pure luck. However, professional gamblers built many systems to at least mitigate the losses and have some winning sessions. It involves a number of system in place and experienced. They bet on a pre-planned bets meaning: they bet according to plan no matter what ans stop according to plan no matter what - no emotions involved.
I beg to disagree, it's not really base on luck but base on skills. If you have the skills you will know what game that will give you a good chance of winning and you cannot make it in a dice games where there's a house advantage. You can gamble for fun and for profit but most of us gamble for profit so we need skills on that.
Skills really give us edge for sure knowing which types of game you are more interest giving advantage against the  house for me poker and sports bets are more popular using skills and adding much bigger luck will earn us bug profits within our betting experience so both ways are needed to make a complete winnings applying it with dice or slot would be different scenario.

Even how skilled you are and you have studied the system of the gambling game you are playing. Still you will ask for yourself to be lucky every time you will gamble because that has been proven that even you are not skilled but you are just plainly lucky. You will able to surpass the knowledge and skills of those professional gamblers.
13155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 09, 2016, 02:32:04 AM
Yes if the country has ban it and still you gambling that is wrong. You got hooked to it and cannot leave it that is wrong.
You are trying to recover the loss amount and further loosing that is wrong. In short it should be once in a few months and with limited amount that will keep things in control
If the country is ban that does not mean that gambling is wrong, people are just weak maybe in the area or the government does not want to take risk for their people to get addicted. Gambling is addictive by nature so it's important that only those responsible enough shall gamble.
that's very difficult how to determine who's responsible and who's not but either way gambling is wrong if you already wasting your time, money and your own self by doing it continuously, gambling should be for fun and entertaining and aside from that if you exceed thats already wrong because for sure addiction will be the next stage.

I don't even know that there are countries are completely banning gambling for real. Because that is one of the industry that are paying big tax and adds fund to the government. Gambling is becoming wrong when you are doing some crimes just to sustain your gambling needs and that is not going to help you grow as a person.
13156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 09, 2016, 02:18:51 AM
I prefer the real gambling. Though online gambling is quite popular nowadays but real gambling lets you feel the excitement of the whole game experience. I tried playing online game couple of times but compare to the real one, i'd say the real gambling is the best. Cheesy

I tried real gambling before, cockfighting to be exact, and I could say that it is really much exciting compared to online gambling this days, in real life gambling you could see it to your self how things happen and of course, nothing beats the "cold sweat" in real life betting than pretending to have one in online gambling...  Smiley

I used to bet with cockfight before and we are able to visit the places where cockfight is popular here in my country. The experience there is very fine but when it comes to the profit, its really makes me sad. You can win for sometime, but it is better if you are going not to expect with it. Even your rooster is conditioned still a lot of possible problems may occur.
13157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Thank you BitStarz.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: November 09, 2016, 01:59:49 AM
LOL I will not be sending anyone any free BTC to prove anything.

You can believe me, or you can choose not to believe me. I really don't care. I won money, I'm happy, and I just wanted to give thanks to BitStarz for letting me win  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I think you got it wrong when others want to see the proof. They are asking for some valid proof of transaction that you really won that amount with bitstarz.com they aren't asking for some "money given away in goodwill by a winning gambler" they just want to see if you are saying true that you really won. I hope this might enlighten you.


No, two people actually asked for me to send them BTC. Not happening

 Roll Eyes Tongue

It is your money, so it is up to you whether you want to donate or not. But if the community wants to believe whatever you posted on this thread then you should show some proof of such big win. Otherwise, I consider it as marketing tricks for the site and nothing else.

Oh, I see that there are people ask for some those so called 'giveaway' from a lucky gambler.  klf was right, it is depending on you if you will have a good samaritan attitude and will give them some of their asking. But it seems that you really don't want to show some proofs and wants to hide this success on your own, but if you will show proofs I guess it will inspired others, just sayin'.
13158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the primary lessons you earn after you gamble? on: November 09, 2016, 01:52:16 AM
I had learned the hard way what gambles does in general, thats is get your money while you have fun and try lucky, the only lesson i took with those were to stay away from gamble, even when i do gamble while in a while with small ammounts of 0,01btc.

You would learn lesson the hard way if you don't learn from the statements of those who already experience losing and being broke... As much as possible you should stay away from gambling if you care about your money, and want to make it safe... It's okay to atleast try it once or twice so you'll know how it feels, but to invest to your bankroll and think that you will earn, that's bonkers, I tried that before and I wasted time, though I never lose money...   Smiley

Learning not from the experience of others will really teach you the hard way when it comes to gambling. At first, hearing and reading some tips from those gambler experts will not really make me follow their tips. So I just keep on gambling, but in the end I am regretting that I haven't followed their tip, just like only gamble what you afford to lose.
13159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: On BitcoinBetting.website someone converted 0.0998 BTC to 1.5968 BTC! on: November 09, 2016, 01:40:29 AM
Well, another lucky user who won big amount. This guy has more "luck" than a guy who hitted a big amount too back then (but smaller than this winnings), you can see on Here. All i can say just, congrats for him!

It is really an amazing thing to see those people who are winning big amount every time they will gamble. And this 0% house edge by bitcoinbetting.website is making them more popular and if this type of winning will be continuously happening, it's going to have two result: It's either they will get a lot of gamblers or they will be bankrupt. And I forget, Congrats to you buddy!
13160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win? on: November 09, 2016, 01:34:12 AM
You have to question yourself why you are gambling. If you are gambling to win then you are either scamming yourself or would have to acquire the correct skills and then gamble in more skill based games like poker, black jack or sportsbetting. Most casino games make people lose because the house has the edge. You are already a loser before you even sat on the table.

I think the word scamming yourself is not appropriate when a person is gambling. It's either he just doing it because he just can't help himself to stop and thinks that it can be a good source of income. Because even there might be losing still there have a chance of winning but not that too often. But you are right with it on those casino games, considered as loser already upon sitting.
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