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13161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: December 09, 2016, 10:01:18 PM
Luck depends on what game are you playing. If you are playong cashino then you need luck but if you play oker or any other games you need strategy . I think 50 percent it depends upon luck and 50 percent on strategy .

I think almost all types of gambling games is just depending to our luck. Even poker and sports betting that many are saying that it doesn't need luck but in reality, many poker players are hoping for their lucky cards and as well as the people who are betting in sports, they are also hoping a very lucky winning shot.
13162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: December 09, 2016, 09:48:05 PM
You will not become rich from gambling my friend Wink Do it for fun

It's a fact friend that gambling will not make us rich even though we will bet small or higher bets. Better to work out your own goal to become rich with gambling by working hard and focus to your own career. The only chosen ones who are becoming rich with gambling are the casino owners and the one time jackpot hitters.

What you said is true. Gambling is only for fun and not to become a rich fast. But many people still thinks that some tricks or methods can help them to become rich fast, and they don't care about other people suggestions or advice until they lose a lot of money and realise by themselves. So always remember not to gamble to become rich.
There is a saying in my country, the shortest path to your goal is the longest one, meaning there is not such a thing as shortcuts to get your goal, if you want to be rich then the only way is to work hard in whatever you are good at it and keep doing it until you succeed.
It is just like in the skills like guitar if you are not starting to a basic and you are always a shortcut you will never be a great in guitar..
Like in programming if you just doing shortcut and not  doing a basic you will never be a programmer..
You should start and learn the basic first in order to have skills that you can use to your daily life..  gambling is a waste of time and it can be your shortcut that can bring to be poor..

What you have said friends are right, gambling must be treated only for fun but if you win some decent amount then that's better but don't hope too much that you'll win every time you gamble. If we are aiming to become rich we need to go to the first step of the ladder because we can't go immediate to the top.
13163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin $50,000 each by 2020 on: December 09, 2016, 09:40:19 PM
Does anyone feel like it's comming?

I don't feel this man even I have psychic powers still I can't figure out if this is going to happen. That's a short amount of time to reach that value of bitcoin. It is more likely that the price of bitcoin will be $2,000-$3,000 by that time or still we will see a lot of price pump and dump. And if this happen, the guy that posted a thread about, he will die when the price reaches $50k.
13164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin died tomorrow on: December 09, 2016, 09:34:29 PM
I would be disappointed for sure, but not so much, cause of to not regret too much in the case bitcoin died in cash out my earnings once a month and spend it for my daily costs. I think it wise. But of course I lose som money cause of bitcoins price growing.

Me either, that will make me disappointed because as I believe that in the long run bitcoin will increase it's price. But we don't have to be upset because this is just possible if the government will implement worldwide banning for bitcoin and as now we don't have to think about this for bitcoin now is getting tougher.
13165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 09, 2016, 09:26:04 PM
I gamble for fun and fast profit.I try to double my money and withdraw it.If I fail ,I don't try to recover my money,I pay my money for fun,when I win I use money for my hobby.
You have a good strategy according to your post it is obvious that you are gambling for profit and the fun is already at there. Try to maintain your bets and do not invest too much which you are not able to afford.

Gambling is getting more fun if we will win and that will give a good stability in gambling since you are not trying to recover your losses. It's a good significant that you are a responsible gambler. And you are just gambling for fun, because when you lose you are not trying hard to recover your losses, just continue with that attitude man.
13166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think bitcoin is one new step for sucess. on: December 09, 2016, 09:16:34 PM
Yes, because it is the currency of all people in the world, as long as it is free to use in the whole world with mall fee in transacting to others plus still got no taxes, crypto currency will bloom in the next years.

You are right that bitcoin will be the next to success because the government tax is the one that eats all our salary in a month and as well as the things that we consume, everything was taxable. Good thing that there is bitcoin and it is good that it is not taxable because the government is still not considering it as a good investment.
13167  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: December 09, 2016, 09:09:39 PM
Buying and holding Bitcoin will work if Bitcoin succeeds because it is designed to be deflationary. The problem is that if you get in too late, you can't get as much profit. It's best to buy as early as you can and as much as you can if you are just going to hold it.

And it is still not too late for those new comers to bitcoin, unless they will buy immediately bitcoins then they have a chance to get some profit when the price increases. And buying, holding of bitcoins is giving success to the people who are doing it in the long run. For those people who wants to buy, don't wait for the price to decrease, just buy now because the price will increases higher soon.
13168  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: December 09, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
dont try to invest ur bitcoins in anything .because they is a high risk that u will end up loosing all ur bitcoins,or otherwise u might not get much profit better sell those bitcoins which may b useful for ur future.

So how you are going to get profit if you will invest your bitcoins? If you are scared up about the risk that you may get, then you can simply hold that until the right price that will make you satisfied and sell it. But don't say that you don't have to try to invest bitcoins in anything because that will just make your bitcoins as display.
13169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Putting money in lottery is gambling too? on: December 09, 2016, 08:53:29 PM
Anything you do that includes a chance of winning money, is gambling, or just taking a risk for a desired result is gambling. Betting in lottery in our country is for charity called PCSO. So in someway, when you bet in a lottery, it's also considered a donation. It's two birds with one stone (when you win the lottery while donating at the same time)

As long as we are wagering money, that's considered as gambling and that's a good purpose that betting for lottery has something to be funded for charity. But I'm thinking how about if there is a winner that needs to be paid by that charity or he takes all the funds with his win, is there something that is still going to be allocated or shared to the charity.
13170  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: December 08, 2016, 11:41:15 PM
I love to play the games and give a regular time to games but I think I am not addicted to gambling because I do not spend a lot of money in these games and I only play for entertainment and I often like to play on free games.

Me too and it doesn't mean that just because we are enjoying the game and we are loving to play gambling games we are already addicted to gambling. No we don't, it depends on how you are going to take those gambling games lightly or in a hard way where it can affect your emotion. And I can say, that I'm not addicted in gambling.
13171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 08, 2016, 11:30:47 PM
Gambling is simply a game, but more than just a game, Gambling will be just a game if you not put your money on it. Gambling is more tha just an ordinary game if you put your money to get more.

Yes it is a game, a game of luck where everyone is getting addicted into it. And because of that chance of winning with gambling this is why many people are becoming addicted into it and instead of making gambling as source of entertainment many of us are looking at it as source of income and there are some also that is making it as career.
13172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: December 08, 2016, 11:13:40 PM
You will not become rich from gambling my friend Wink Do it for fun

It's a fact friend that gambling will not make us rich even though we will bet small or higher bets. Better to work out your own goal to become rich with gambling by working hard and focus to your own career. The only chosen ones who are becoming rich with gambling are the casino owners and the one time jackpot hitters.
13173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 08, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
People who usually gamble alot don't know what they are doing and are out of control.
At this point they should seek medical counselling  because they obviously have a mental condition if they can not stop gambling and are definitely addicted to it.
I agree with you . when the gambler just think to always win, they were wrong. because it is the beginning of their addiction. it should be removed and they are exposed to a little bit of pressure mentally strong.

I dont think that gambler dont just think of win to be addicted. A lot of people addicted is because they like to gamble. They already knew that they are not going to win but they still pour more and more money in is due to the fact that they like to involve in gambling.
I think that as losses start climbing and they begin to realize the amount of money they have lost the addicted see no way out but to keep gambling because they have lost so much money that the only way they see they could get that money back is through gambling.

And they are falling into addiction that way for they are aiming now with two reasons to recover their losses and to enjoy the game. Gambling is just simply addicting with its way of making the gamblers excited when they are wagering their money for different gambling games and this is hard to be cured unless you will overcome it.
13174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I bet you have never lost more than this !!! on: December 08, 2016, 10:55:31 PM
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What the? I thought at first this is just a promotion of nitrogensports.eu but upon checking the betslip. DAMN! Man, whoever is that guy is truly a crazy one and nuts. That amount is already a dream come true to me to have a lot of assets and with this just lost within a single day? I don't know but I am the one who is the most affected and feeling regret for this bet.  Undecided
13175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When is Gambling Like Investing on: December 08, 2016, 10:44:03 PM
Gambling will be effective as a investment when you have cent percent assurance that you win the event. Whether you bet on the lower odd or highest, the winning decides it to be a form of investment or just gambling

No one can tell you 100% accurately that any team or a person going win unless the match is fixed. Even though it is fixed but still you will have a fear that result may change. Gambling is just a playing games for fun but investing is to earn money over the time. You need to wait for investments to grow and it will not happen instantly.

Just because we are putting money or wagering it with gambling that is what I'm already considering as a form of investment, because are the one that will decide whether you will invest it to some profitable things or just simply gamble it and hopes to win bigger amount if you are lucky enough when you gamble.

Wagering is enjoying the games, not an investment. If you want to win big money in short time and enter to gambling means, it is not an investment but taking significant risks to play those games. Winning chances are almost nill in gambling. So as per me it is not a investment. Those are just fun games but need to pay for it.
We are suppose to do that way but the reward like we can win without limit attracts us to make it a serious investment, and of course when we are talking of investment there should be a careful strategic planning that is when we choose our game and use our skills. This type of investment is very hard since most of us who tried failed in the end and others even have a miserable life because of gambling.
Well as someone mentioned earlier it really depends on the definition of investment. If you take an investment just as a way how to surly make some profit, then no - gambling is not an investment, but otherwise it may be taken so.

As long as we are putting our money into risk, that is making me think that it is an investment. But because of your definition about investment and difference of it with gambling, I'm enlightened. But the only investment we can make with gambling is depositing or investing into their bankroll casino's.
13176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: December 08, 2016, 10:24:27 PM
Many people comes back for the urge of getting back what they had lost. And also for having that sensation of winning that anyone can be addicted to, also the fun of gambling. I did came back to gambling when I am so naive not knowing what I will lose in the end. I want to get back what I had lost and it is really fun in the first. But it did not last. I lost my money and did not even think of what doing next.

Base on my experience, there are two reasons why we keep on coming back from gambling and the first one is what you have said for the hope of recovering the losses. And the other one is you just simply missed the game on how your hands is very itchy to gamble because you used to it and you can't able to move on if you won't gamble for a day.
13177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: December 08, 2016, 10:14:46 PM
You can!!! as long as you are willing to take a risk and dont mind losing it. Do remember this golden rule of gambling "Only gamble the amount that you can afford to lose". It has served me well and I have never risked the money which would be utilised for my basic needs. Hope you follow this too. Have fun! Smiley

It is better to risk smaller amount when you are gambling rather than gambling with bigger amount. Even though the amount of possible profit is also small but still you are going to have more chance of winning by betting that way because you can afford to lose with smaller amount. And also just don't be too greedy enough when gambling.
13178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 08, 2016, 10:06:52 PM
I think the tips or tricks to gamble is we should be able to control the emotions and passions because although we have a trick if you can not control the appetite useless, bitcoin will disappear quickly

That's right, it is the best thing to do for us to be able to have some good chance of winning. Because if there are times that we are in losing streak, that is making us mad and rage. So usually what we do is YOLOing all the remaining amount and we bet it without thinking the high risk we may get just because we are thinking to recover our losses.
Doing such method is for desperate people, you don't do yolo if you want to stay in the game longer and to think that successful gamblers have to be successful in the long run. Sometimes we do all in and that may result to a lose due to the reason that we do not analyze our bets anymore and we let our emotions dictate us, it can never be good in gambling and will certainly give us a bigger problem later on.
In the mind of a pro you need to analyze whether you can take the risk or you have to calm down and let the losing streak pass on you trying to cool down will make you think much better or try to quit first while you still have a chance will be much better choice never lose control.

The loss streak is like the sea waves. When it's too strong and you can't beat it, the best thing you can do is to dive and let it pass away, this way you will be safe for what will come next.

When you think the gambling game is too hard and the loss is coming very frequently, it's time to stop for a while or to change the casino, maybe it can work... Play a little in each casino and the probability to don't lose is higher.

I like your logic and you are right with that. Because if we will fight against that wave(losing streak) there is no way to win against it. And the best thing to do is to cool yourself down and wait for some other day to gamble again or if you wanted to stop that losing streak and you wanted to be safe and secure your money, just stop gambling.
13179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best apps for sports betting tips on: December 07, 2016, 11:49:01 PM
I wonder what apps you are using or know for the best sport betting tips. I already found OLBG sports betting tips(IOS & Android) https://olbg.com and want to know if there are more apps that are great for people who like sports betting.

Usually those sports betting tipster apps are also helpful but if you want to know on how to gamble greatly. You can just simply learn from your mistakes and as well as the mistake of others. And it is certainly not needed if you wanted to know some sports betting tips because there are a lot of sports betting analyzers that gives their tips for free.
13180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: December 07, 2016, 11:44:11 PM
Yes I think its the future of online gambling these days because its something that is done a lot and you can do it a lot too.
Bitcoin is really taking over in this.

And there are a lot of competition already in online gambling  because many investors are seeing that this industry is going to have the potential to increase its sales and attracts more gamblers in the future. But even the competition is tough enough, gamblers are looking to their satisfaction and that's where the gambling sites are competing.
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