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13161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama Attacks 2nd Amendment With Executive Order on: July 18, 2014, 01:06:19 AM
Outlaws Russian-made AK-47 rifles with stroke of his unconstitutional pen
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Obama exploited the conflict in Ukraine to target the importation of the popular AK line of firearms manufactured by Kalashnikov Concern in Izhmash, Russia. The unconstitutional ban includes the Saiga line of rifles and shotguns.
Rats.  And I so was looking forward to a Saiga 20 round 12 gauge and about a half dozen drum magazines.

You never know when those zombies might rise up...
13162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tea Party explained: a religious movement on: July 18, 2014, 12:56:41 AM
Funny, my Tea Party didn't have fuck all to do with religion, as I fucking hate religion. More revisionist history from the statists.
They seemed to respect my atheist inclinations when I joined up with them.
13163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tea Party explained: a religious movement on: July 18, 2014, 12:55:16 AM
This well written op-ed completely nails what liberals have been saying about the "grassroots" TP movement ....
Damn right it was and is a grassroots movement.

And I've been urging them to start taking donations in Bitcoin.
13164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tea Party explained: a religious movement on: July 17, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
It is now a commonplace for Tea Party candidates to vow they won’t sacrifice an iota of their principles. In this light, shutting down the Government rather than bending on legislation becomes a moral imperative. While critics may decry such a tactic as “rule or ruin,” Tea Party brethren celebrate it, rather, as the act of a defiant Samson pulling down the pillars of the temple. For them, this is not demolition but reclamation, cleansing the sanctuary that has been profaned by liberals.
I see the tea party movement as very similar to the jihadist movement in the Muslim religion.  Only their way is acceptable.  This is the new religion that is sweeping the less intelligent of our people. The Old white men want to take this country back.  The real problem is that yes everything looked better when you were young, but as you get older you pine for the good old days when you could walk or run around and you didn't get ackes and pains.  Those days won't come back so for god sake quit trying.
The Tea Party wants smaller government, less taxes, and a return to the Constitution. It's not about 'religion', and your insinuating author doesn't offer one iota of concrete evidence to back up his false assertions.
You are correct.  However, there is a fair sized block of Tea Party members who themselves are deeply religious and are anti-abortion, etc.  But that is not part of the Tea Party platform.

These guys understand these differences.
TEA= "Taxed Enough Already"
13165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Attn: Human Influenced Climate Change deniers on: July 17, 2014, 06:40:12 PM
What if you're wrong?

Care to elaborate just a bit? Your scare tactics might work on school children but grown ups like some actual evidence.

I'm not trying to use scare tactics.

To elaborate: The majority of evidence suggests that it's happening. There is also a small amount of evidence suggesting it's not. But, even if the majority is wrong, I don't see many downsides to trying to combat it anyway.

The only problem with that logic is that "combating" it according to your side would result in the creation of a massive worldwide depression resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands in the third world. Not to mention lowering the standard of living for the vast majority of westerners. All for a hypothesis that has never been subjected to the rigors of hard scientific inquiry. In science you don't set out to prove a hypothesis, the goal is to disprove it. You don't manipulate data to make it fit that hypothesis and you don't impose your hypothesis on people simply because you feel the conversation should be over. The use of terms like "climate change deniers" etc. to control the conversation is quite revealing.    
^ This. Take some time and actually look at some of the proposed policies used to "combat" global warming and tell me again how there is nothing to lose. After all, without an enforcement mechanism, the law would only be a suggestion or a guideline and just serve as superficial dressing to cover actual environmental destruction.

It's also important to point out that specific attempts to control carbon emissions through government schemes such as cap and trade have failed, not succeeded.
13166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hole in Earth. Yamal. on: July 17, 2014, 03:17:24 PM
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/large-crater-appears-at-the-end-of-the-world/

A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch ruled out a meteorite but said it was too early to say what cause the gigantic hole in the earth.

'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite. No details yet,' said a spokesman.


Anna Kurchatova from Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre thinks the crater was formed by a water, salt and gas mixture igniting an underground explosion, the result of global warming. She postulates that gas accumulated in ice mixed with sand beneath the surface, and that this was mixed with salt - some 10,000 years ago this area was a sea.
YAY!

Another thing caused by GLOBAL WARMING!

Now the Earth will Explode!  Watch where you step...
13167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 17, 2014, 03:12:51 PM
So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.
I saw that coming when the lefties defended maher for calling palin a cu*t because it was funny. Or when they attacked Bristol and trig while claiming the obama girls were off limits. And of course the house ni**er name used to describe so many black republicans male and female because the dem party knows that all blacks belong in the dem party. No nuance there.
WHO defended him because it was funny? I sure didn't.  First of all, Mahar wasn't trying to be funny when he said that, it was one of his more serious moments - he has them. And I didn't defend the use of the word because I think the word is vile and has no place in discourse between reasonable people.
I agree 100%.  And that cunt Mahar wasn't funny when he said that.  Although to be fair, I have to note there is a certain category of joke which gets it's humor from ridiculing either a person or behavior.  Nothing wrong with this.  

Not that a stupid cunt like Mahar would understand.
13168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 17, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.
I saw that coming when the lefties defended maher for calling palin a cu*t because it was funny. ...

Bill Maher is a cunt.
13169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Attn: Human Influenced Climate Change deniers on: July 17, 2014, 12:23:05 PM
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I don't think we would really lose any freedoms, succumb to global banks/taxes etc. It doesn't fit into their agenda IMO; surely big banks and governments would prefer to exploit the most profitable energy sources ie. oil and gas?
No, they want to exploit every exploitable thing, and crush things which are marginally exploitable.

13170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: July 17, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
Thanks for continuing to follow this story and post about it.  If the IRS can target these groups under a Democratic leader, they can target the opposite groups under a Republican one.  Imagine the Koch brothers calling the shots on who gets targeted.  I hope more people wake up to what a potential disaster this is.

Agreed.  Any Americans should be upset when any government office is used to target groups due to political, religious, or social affiliation. All you need to do is buy the White House and control the AG.  Then just let the funding control everything else.
This is why Congress is trying so hard to find a link to the White House. If it can be proven that Obama had anything to do with the targeting of conservative groups then he would likely be impeached and a special prosecutor would likely be appointed to prosecute anyone who has broken the law.

This is also why it is important to prosecute those at the IRS who broke the law, even low level employees who "were just following orders" as even these people have the right to ask questions when their direction is to do something illegal.
Criminals don't really care about the law.
If a point is made to prosecute those who have broken the law then it would serve as a deterrent to others in the future. 
Read up on Chicago politics and corruption.  Then reflect that is what has been placed in Washington DC.

The very first thing they did was break the system that could punish them.


13171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 17, 2014, 12:08:15 PM
So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.
I saw that coming when the lefties defended maher for calling palin a cu*t because it was funny. Or when they attacked Bristol and trig while claiming the obama girls were off limits. And of course the house ni**er name used to describe so many black republicans male and female because the dem party knows that all blacks belong in the dem party. No nuance there.

I always thought there were hints of envy on the palin issue.

Because she certainly is no pig.

And the Democrats sure have a lot of women who are hogs.
13172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hole in Earth. Yamal. on: July 17, 2014, 12:06:00 PM
I've just read that there might be an expedition to that place. It's just 30 km from Bovanenkovo gas field. But geologists are already pretty sure it's a collapsed pingo, periglacial feature created when the ice mound covered by soil and rocks melts out, thus causing ground to collapse.


But some sort of possibly low velocity pressure wave or explosion took that top layer of dirt and rock and threw it back around the hole, causing a sort of buildup in a ring around the hole.  At least that's how it looks.

This was no meteorite, but maybe a giant piece of bubble gum?

Or it could have been the Martian ships planted long ago, drilling their way out and preparing to attack.
13173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: World Economy 'More Fragile than Before 2007 Crash' on: July 17, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
Even if it benefits Bitcoin im scared. Also, in such a dangerious enviorment, would Bitcoin be even accepted? In total chaos the guy with weapons and food is the guy that rules  Sad

Alas this.. when things go bad the hired armies of the gov (the police) will come to steal EVERYTHING you own.. EVERYTHING including crypto.  If you do not have the means or people to defend yourself you will be killed and everything taken, or enslaved and everything taken...

Things are just not looking good at all..  I have cop friends.. they are 100% brainwashed.  If asked to go wipe out a city there will be no question just action.

It's rather obvious the gun agenda with a massive decrease in gun violence over the past 15 years but the media going on about how bad it's getting and how we HAVE to fix this issue that is getting worse.. when it's getting better... :S..  In my country you'll face years in prison if you are found with a baton... hopefully I can escape south if/when the time comes.  
In the event of a real collapse there won't be a government to oppress, nor will there be an internet to run bitcoin. There will be starvation, disease, and power will be in the hands of those willing to take it. Only food and a few basic goods will have any value. Let's hope it does not come to that.

Hard to imagine it will be a worse case scenario.
For examples of worst case, we can look at areas that have had a worst case collapse.  Lebanon, Somalia.  Valuable infrastructure breeds organization to extract tolls, and gangs spring up to collect "taxes" for protecting neighborhoods.  Life goes on.  I can't think of ANY past collapse where some kind of pre existing money system did not continue in use.  Perhaps not the national currency, but some mix of currencies.

A "worst case" collapse of civilization cannot occur from the financial sphere, maybe consider a superbug pandemic, all out nuclear war, or a Carrington event.  Today nuclear war with hundreds or thousands of warheads seems pretty much impossible.

Oh, and around here, cops are not 100% brainwashed....
13174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microsoft tells users to stop using strong passwords everywhere on: July 17, 2014, 11:42:39 AM
My online banker doesnt allow a password over 7 characters long. Thats not secure now is it.. I thought this was such a joke I brought it up to the customer service, and they really had nothing to say.. Seriously...?

Having an online password of 7 characters is fairly secure.  You can't brute force a web password if they programmed it correctly.
7 characters would be something like 12,000 hours on a really crummy pc.  So better machines would reduce that a lot.  So 7 certainly is crackable.
13175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: July 17, 2014, 03:06:07 AM
Thanks for continuing to follow this story and post about it.  If the IRS can target these groups under a Democratic leader, they can target the opposite groups under a Republican one.  Imagine the Koch brothers calling the shots on who gets targeted.  I hope more people wake up to what a potential disaster this is.

Agreed.  Any Americans should be upset when any government office is used to target groups due to political, religious, or social affiliation. All you need to do is buy the White House and control the AG.  Then just let the funding control everything else.
This is why Congress is trying so hard to find a link to the White House. If it can be proven that Obama had anything to do with the targeting of conservative groups then he would likely be impeached and a special prosecutor would likely be appointed to prosecute anyone who has broken the law.

This is also why it is important to prosecute those at the IRS who broke the law, even low level employees who "were just following orders" as even these people have the right to ask questions when their direction is to do something illegal.
Criminals don't really care about the law.
13176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Attn: Human Influenced Climate Change deniers on: July 17, 2014, 03:02:53 AM
My problem is that Obama claims the "science is settled" on global warming when it clearly is not.  I dont think there is any conclusive evidence humans are causing "climate change" and that we are not just in a cyclical "warm period"

I don't agree that it's settled, but the general consensus seems to be that it is happening. I have access to a couple of decent journals re: climate change, and although I don't understand all the details, nearly all papers that I've read seem to back the theory.

Even without 100% conclusive evidence, I don't see many drawbacks to just assuming that we are causing climate change, and trying to switch to renewable and nuclear energy.
Even though you likely don't know what "a denier" is, you will not find any of them disagreein with you on more nuclear energy.

Who you will find disagreeing about more nuclear are the regressive anti-industrial factions of the environmental lobby, the Democratic party, and the influential factions from the Middle East, who want us buying their oil.  So you are actually on the side of those preventing progress - the Anti Nuclear Energy Side.

Don't worry, the Deniers will welcome you with open arms.  It's a lot of fun in this playground.
13177  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 16, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.
Well she's white, right?

<<sarcasm>>

13178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: July 16, 2014, 12:18:02 PM

Climate Expert Refuses To Shake Hands With Professor Because He’s A Global Warming Skeptic…

John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama here, says he remembers the morning he spotted a well-known colleague at a gathering of climate experts.

“I walked over and held out my hand to greet him,” Dr. Christy recalled. “He looked me in the eye, and he said, ‘No.’ I said, ‘Come on, shake hands with me.’ And he said, ‘No.’ ”

Dr. Christy is an outlier on what the vast majority of his colleagues consider to be a matter of consensus: that global warming is both settled science and a dire threat. He regards it as neither. Not that the earth is not heating up. It is, he says, and carbon dioxide spewed from power plants, automobiles and other sources is at least partly responsible.

But in speeches, congressional testimony and peer-reviewed articles in scientific journals, he argues that predictions of future warming have been greatly overstated and that humans have weathered warmer stretches without perishing. Dr. Christy’s willingness to publicize his views, often strongly, has also hurt his standing among scientists who tend to be suspicious of those with high profiles. His frequent appearances on Capitol Hill have almost always been at the request of Republican legislators opposed to addressing climate change.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/16/us/skeptic-of-climate-change-john-christy-finds-himself-a-target-of-suspicion.html?_r=0



It is really telling that the climate kook aid sippers ostracize people that simply disagree with them. Sound science demands debate and disagreement. The goal is to disprove your hypothesis. These people have become evangelicals.

Of course, it could well be the case that the man wouldn't shake Christy's hand not because he was one of the kooks or KoolAid sippers, but was afraid of them and what they could do to him.

This is actually a more alarming probability.
13179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: July 16, 2014, 01:46:14 AM
So you think we can only help them if we continue to burn oil and gas?
I believe the 'green' industry will be creating just as many jobs as the oil industry, if not more.
I don't see the economy 'failing'. Only the big oil companies will fail if they don't adapt.
I think my point is not what we continue to do, but what we encourage, discourage or prevent Africa from doing.  The best thing for Africa is coal power plants right outside the cities, with massive power going into the cities and the beginnings of industrial and modern civilization.  Based on power, yes.
The worst thing for Africa is for do-gooders to actively try to prevent fossil fuel use in infrastructure development, and limit them to 'sustainable resource development'.
It's a choice as to whether greenies are red on the inside, or dead on the inside.
I don't think that more centralization is good.
Africa is BIG. There's lots of space. Everything is far away.
The good thing about 'green' energy is that you don't need to transport lots of stuff around. Like coal.
This means you can produce energy just about anywhere. Even when there are no proper streets.
Well, first of all, let me say I have been to subsaharan Africa and know a little bit about it.  Enough to make the comment I did make to you.  I felt it was important to clarify, not the abstract "fossil fuel versus renewable" issue but the specific, "bring Africa out of the third world".  

It's fairly clear that there is a sentiment among environmentalists that Africa can be left in the third world, maybe they can get notebooks and internet in their bush villages, maybe some medical help from the wealthy nations, but basic infrastructure such as power plants....NYET!

The existence of this sentiment is IMHO quite interesting.  It essentially says "Let some there die for the greater good of mankind, as the threat to the planet of burning fossil fuels outweighs their self-interest."

Clarify any of the above if I have made errors, if you like.  By the way I like more decentalization, also.  

But power is essential to industry, and industry by it's nature is centralized.  For example, an aluminum plant might do well to locate itself next to a powerplant.  So the general idea of a powerplant, yes, ran on coal, next to a city, which includes both civilian and industrial uses of power, can be supported as a necessary feature of moving an area from third world to first world.

Otherwise it would seem that we make an experiment of the third world.  But green power has not, anywhere, shown itself capable of running serious industrial scale operations, nor cities.  Therefore, we would make that experiment with a near certainty of failure, which would impact them, not us.
13180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EXCLUSIVE: TSA Allowing Illegals on to Planes W/O ID on: July 15, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
True. After 6 years in office, the whole "blame Bush" thing doesn't work anymore. The new agenda is to try and turn the American people against the Republican party by making us out to be the anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, pro-religious zealot bad guys, all the while ensuring a whole new influx of Dem-leaning voters (you don't really think Dems are against voter ID laws because they care about the poor minorities, do you?) to better the chances of another 8 years worth of democracy destroying liberal rule.

The points you both have brought up are so true.  It is amazing that people will put up with others being falsely accused as racist or "whateverphobic".  Especially when the people calling them names are manipulative liars. I don't think anybody in their right mind would let that line "it's Bush's fault" fly these days.  I can't think of many things that would work with that arguement.  All I know is this issue is long over due for attention and I have a feeling will remain this way for a while longer.

For any that are interested, I often work in a very right wing, fundamentalist, Republican area.  They are not anti-gay, or anti-immigrant.  They are often anti-abortion and pro-religious.  They are simply not racist or haters.  Just saying.  Breakfast this morning, at a place in very fundamentalist, Republican area and the waitress was obviously lesbian.  Nobody cares.   21st century, Hello!

I agree with the above commenters, this smear may be expected and in massive doses.  Yes, it is a distraction from the real issues.  For the 2014 election cycle, likely the best thing for the country would be for the Republicans to take the Senate...even if that means some of the old boy, RHINO repulsivecans...
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