I have successfully registered my token, what I should de next? Is the phase two start? I can't visit https://secretaddress.comAnyone can help? No phase 2 hasn't started yet and secretaddress.com is a placeholder. One would think it's obvious but you're the second guy to actually visit the page  |
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Sorry for my ignorance, but i cannot find informations about. Do you have a timeline for the step 1 redemption?
nobody here can give me a reasonable answer?  Not an exact one yet. |
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Dear community,I would like to point out the following situation: Some members who have applied to join the New Economic Movement have lost access to their BTT account. In a few cases, these same people have made contact with the development team with a second (new) account in order to claim their token. I have come up with a simple system in which these tokens can be reclaimed by the rightful owner without risking the original owner getting scammed. System:  The developers assign two types of priorities to the following accounts: Priority 1 ( highest priority): The original (lost) BTT account. Priority 2 ( lowest priority): The new BTT account. Then, whenever someone claims to have lost access to an account, the developers would have to carefully inspect the case and hand over a so called "temporary token".If the original owner claims the token from the original account at a later point in time, the developers would have to remove the "temporary token" from the list and blacklist the person who had claimed a "temporary token". If the original owner is in fact the same person as the one who claimed the "temporary token", the stake has found it's way back to it's owner. With this simple system, you can help those who are in a bad situation while preventing any scam. Feedback is welcome! To continue with this discussion, when and how are we as a community going to decide what to do with these particular stakeholders? It'd probably be better to open a vote forum.nemcoin.com (I'll do that). From the reactions here though, I don't think they'll vote in favor or giving lost btt accounts stakes. |
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How much NEM stakes are allowed for each NXT address? Are there any restrictions or limitations? Thanks.
2 stakes per nxt account. If you have more than 2 you split them up to more nxt accounts before cashing them in for real NEM. I feel like I anserwed this like 20 times  What a meaningless retarded requirements. What a rediculous statement. It's actually a decent (and necessary) deterrent from big players buying/hording nemstake, as they'll be reluctant to spend any large amount of time distributing their stakes across a host of NXT accounts to comply. This i didn't think would need explaining unless you're one to be buying Nemstake in huge quantities yourself. I'm personally glad the requirement stands for this very reason - as there are plenty of individuals who are into crypto with the resources to buy out Nemstake in almost any quantity they choose. Especially NXT whales. So no, it's far from "Meaningless" or retarded, as you so eloquently put. So why are you forced to divide your Stakes to several Accounts? NEMs Advance from the beginning was the good Distribution. This Advance was destroyed when going to the AE. Now there are some People with 10, 20, even 32 Stakes. (Even one with 252, but I think thats the Distribution Account, but it has no Name or Alias attached). So everyone here is blaming nxt for its Distribution. If everyone is forced to divide his AE Stakes to several Accounts youīll never have a real Picture about the REAL first NEM Distribution, right? I think the whole idea of you must "split" your more than two stakes is so that we can brag by claiming we got "good distribution", even if it's achieved by artificially splitting stakes. There is no other logical reason to do that. What happens if someone refuses to split their stakes that they bought? I am betting the developers will steal those stakes too and will add them to their ever increasing "development" fund. Alright, I'll give an answer to this one post. After that you're addded to my ignorelist. Are you butthurt that you beloved NXT has hard times ? The idea behind that was to make it tedious for people to redeem large amounts of stakes without really limiting the free market. If people know they have to split up their stakes they might not buy more stakes because they are too lazy to split them up. We all know many crypto folks are lazy as fuck. We should do anythoer analsysis after the distribution is finished. Once thing is for sure. NEMs distribution will be hell of a lot better at day 1 thatn NXTs a year after launch. People think distribution isn't that important but it's very important. That's not an opinion that's fact. You can't depend on people to do the right thing for the ecosystem if thy can just do what's best for themselves and dump for profit. Didn't BCNext run aways because most stakeholders where to dumb to realize that ? |
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We got the 1000th registration in.
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I really can't wait for NEM launch! Quick question: will the Beta include a working NEM Asset Exchange? I have some ideas for some assets and would love to roll out some high quality NEM assets as soon as possible after launch  no, the AE will be later. Ok, well I'll be patiently waiting for it. Awesome ! If we can get some nice Assets up at launch that'd be really cool. |
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technical question; is it possible and useful to run multiple nodes behind one static ip? based on; more nodes - more secure?
ex:
[nemnode1]-----\
[nemnode2]------------[fw/router/gateway]-----[INET]
[nemnode3]-----/
Possible but will most likely not aid the network as much as if those were 3 seperated machines with 3 different IPs. what about "leasing" your harvesting power equally split to 3 different accounts that are harvesting on 3 different vpn's? thats something i would do. Not sure it'll be possible to split your harvesting power over multiple nodes. Not sure though. |
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technical question; is it possible and useful to run multiple nodes behind one static ip? based on; more nodes - more secure?
ex:
[nemnode1]-----\
[nemnode2]------------[fw/router/gateway]-----[INET]
[nemnode3]-----/
Possible but will most likely not aid the network as much as if those were 3 seperated machines with 3 different IPs. |
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To calm this discussion down.
We are discussion the option to redeem stakes longer than we had planed and even after launch but for a fee as solix suggested.
Meaning the longer the people fail to redeem the fewer NEM they get. What they don't get goes into development, marketing and whatnot.
It will not be a year. Are you guys delusional ? I'm sorry i don't mean to be disrespectfull but that's pure insanity. A year ? What value could those people be to NEM if they only care to check in every year ?
Seems like a good compromise - would also suggest putting the deadline (the deadline before the fee starts being applied) in the title and OP of all NEM threads. Make it as hard as possible for those who don't claim to ever say they were treated unfairly, didn't know and couldn't have known without digging through tons of NEM posts/threads. What about 4 months.... 1000000 paid until end of 1 st month after launch after: 1 month after launch.......750000 paid out 2 months after launch.......500000 paid out 3 months after launch......250000 paid out 4 months after launch.....niente, nada ,zero, the big 0........I think this is too generous but its a compromise. I think after the launch the stake should immediately be reduced. directly after launch...750 k 1 month later............500 k 1 month later............250 k 1 month later............  Like I said though - we have to take a look at the legal side of it before doing this. |
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I have a feeling we're going to break the 1k registered today. *fingerscrossed* If that rate would continue there wouldn't be any unclaimed |
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the actual address is still a secret.. Hence secretaddress.com The real address will be posted soon. This makes me glad that we replaced NXT-ADD-RES-STB-DET with "an address to be announced". Tried https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/ ended with "You have been banned. Too many failed attempts." after second captcha solving. I forgot to enable cookies in first attempt. More above certificate is self-signed, is that sha256 fingerprint correct: EA:F3:63:A2:E8:01:AB:0B:47:CB:33:F7:BE:1B:06:A9:F4:BD:F2:A0:C4:6F:D4:61:B5:D7:A1:E0:D8:9F:F6:34 The someone else (or you  ) with the same has tried 8 more times with the same IP. Are you using VPN, TOR or a proxy ? |
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the actual address is still a secret.. Hence secretaddress.com The real address will be posted soon. This makes me glad that we replaced NXT-ADD-RES-STB-DET with "an address to be announced". |
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How many stakes are already meant to be given to developers and marketing and can anybody tell me how that breakdown will look?  I heard devs will get 400 shares? Is that right? And how many devs is that split between? Originally there were 1,000 NEM shares set aside for non-stake holders. Is this still true? It would be nice to know the number breakdowns. It is always pretty quit if someone is asking this. I think dev team has got 1000 stakes. Additionally maybe the unclaimed stakes. Thatīs way to much centralisiation, especially for a so called movement. The rich are getting richer, thatīs the argument of devs if you suggest to give the stakeholders more coins, but 25% of all is not enough for development? Centralisation = insane high risk They are not going into the hands of the devs. Being used for development and being given to the devs are 2 different things. Anyway even that is not decided but rest assured that we as well want to avoid centralization. |
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But it may have a problem of a lawsuit by stakeholders who did not receive coins in the future when NEM value is incredibly high.
Like TaunSew suggested it may also have legal implications to prolong the remdeption period. The truth is cryptoland used to be the wild west. If it is the best thing legally to end redemption at launch then that's what we'll do. |
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patmaster: Is it really so hard to understand ... Well, then you just prioritize ur work, do not read postings which irritate u soooo much and make those more imp th. Can u explain why a year brings more work than a month? Isnt claiming automated? When reading ur response it is not hard to understand why u do not see the psychological issues of negative and positive feedbacks. It can be seen from the way u treat others. Imho, u shud go to some study course about PR, and get stripped of non friendly words (delusional, etc) and teutonic arrogance, and learn to not take everything so personally, eg. this posting . Remember we all are ur friends and fellow nemsters How could claiming be automatied for a year ? It could be "automated" right now by putting everyone into NEMESIS. After that it's manual work. Even if we were to figure out a way to automate it forever and a way to tell everyone about it when they already missed the first call. I wouldn't sleep well knowing there is 1 system holding many millions of NEMs just waiting to be broken. |
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+1 to psybits's post
The possible negative backlash can cause probs to NEM image.
Also the positive feedback is possible (like psybits wrote): if some poor guy finds from his old computer the info to claim the stake.
If it is possible to reserve a month extra time to claim the stake after the launch, then what does it require more to reserve a year?
Is it really so hard to understand that we'd like to get this over with and work on more important things ?
Does it cause more risks or does it bring just more work to nem dev team?
It's more work and for the time those funds just sit there unused when they could be put to good use.
Are the names of already claimed public? Must it be public or can it be secret... In that way it could make the stealing of an unclaimed stake more difficult.
https://chain.nem.ninja/stakes/registered |
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To calm this discussion down.
We are discussion the option to redeem stakes longer than we had planed and even after launch but for a fee as solix suggested.
Meaning the longer the people fail to redeem the fewer NEM they get. What they don't get goes into development, marketing and whatnot.
It will not be a year. Are you guys delusional ? I'm sorry i don't mean to be disrespectfull but that's pure insanity. A year ? What value could those people be to NEM if they only care to check in every year ?
Seems like a good compromise - would also suggest putting the deadline (the deadline before the fee starts being applied) in the title and OP of all NEM threads. Make it as hard as possible for those who don't claim to ever say they were treated unfairly, didn't know and couldn't have known without digging through tons of NEM posts/threads. patmast3r your idea sounds like an OK compromise. These people who forgot about their stake could bring a lot of value to NEM. Can you imagine the story about the guy who forgot his stake and was a millionaire (or it if was worth 10K + USD)? Just like the really early Bitcoin millionaires who forgot about their coins We want to make NEM something positive and I believe this includes giving people positive experiences like discovering they are rich from their old, forgotten NEM stake! Personally I would support a year or more - as by my logic if someone has purchased something (a NEM stake) it does belong to them - no matter when they decide to claim it. I fear a negative backlash when "Joe average" goes to redeem his forgotten NEM stake and discovers he has nothing! Ethically it is wrong. Compare this to the stories of the early Bitcoin adopters who forgot they had some coins stashed away and made hundreds of thousands / millions in fiat. When NEM becomes huge this will bring down a shitstorm upon NEM if old early adopters can't claim their stakes - you have all been warned If anyone here is worried about early NEM adopters claiming their stakes and "cashing them in" you are showing that you don't believe the NEM ecosystem can handle some sell offs in the future, and therefore don't really believe in the potential of NEM EDIT: This is the last I'll say on the topic - but when NEM is huge and all the old early supporters come out to claim their stakes don't blame me when NEM crashes and burns from a public backlash, instead of rising even higher from all the awesome stories of the old adopters who are now NEMilllionares Your thinking is backwards and NEM will suffer because of it. I see where you are coming from but I think you're forgetting that those funds could be used for spreading NEM further or funding great projects. If we go with 1 year they'll just sit there for one year not aiding anyone. |
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To calm this discussion down.
We are discussion the option to redeem stakes longer than we had planed and even after launch but for a fee as solix suggested.
Meaning the longer the people fail to redeem the fewer NEM they get. What they don't get goes into development, marketing and whatnot.
It will not be a year. Are you guys delusional ? I'm sorry i don't mean to be disrespectfull but that's pure insanity. A year ? What value could those people be to NEM if they only care to check in every year ?
Seems like a good compromise - would also suggest putting the deadline (the deadline before the fee starts being applied) in the title and OP of all NEM threads. Make it as hard as possible for those who don't claim to ever say they were treated unfairly, didn't know and couldn't have known without digging through tons of NEM posts/threads. If it does come to that I'll probably let the spambot loose one more time on all not registered people. |
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To calm this discussion down. We are discussion the option to redeem stakes longer than we had planed and even after launch but for a fee as solix suggested. Meaning the longer the people fail to redeem the fewer NEM they get. What they don't get goes into development, marketing and whatnot. It will not be a year. Are you guys delusional ? I'm sorry i don't mean to be disrespectfull but that's pure insanity. A year ? What value could those people be to NEM if they only care to check in every year ? If the team decides to do this then we will, if the decision is made against this solution we will proceed as planned. On a sidenote, we just reached 910 registered. I hope we can break that 1k barrier this week |
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