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1321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can happen next time due to a lack of proper knowledge about Bitcoin? on: November 20, 2023, 07:22:15 AM
The Banking system have failed the people in so many ways, it is about time that there are some payback for them. In the previous economic crisis, Banks were bailed out by tax payers money and we just had to take it up the a$$.

A lot of industries have been disrupted by newer technologies and they just had to adapt or die... so the Banks just have to do the same. Let's forget about them, like they forgot about us.. when they harmed us.
The intention of Satoshi in creating bitcoin is not to take avenge or revenge on what you believe banks did to us (those you have lost to the banking system) rather it was for the simple purpose of financial freedom and free from central control by governments.
I don't think banks will be destroyed but it will have to adapt to the new technology and keep it activities if banks are going to be wiped out all over the world it will take years, this year's might be up to a centenary or more or less. Though the disadvantages of banks over shadow the advantages but that should don't make anyone to forget the value it aided to human life.
I think majority know this that it was due and bound to happen and we all have Satoshi to thank for the brilliant idea. Bitcoin in it's original core like you said was meant to aid the whole system of central control of the public funds and help evaluate the idea of financial purpose and indeed it has and like every good project more idea and use always comes with it and this has also been the case of Bitcoin itself as the use of Bitcoin has been greatly diverse into an investment purpose and this has made Bitcoin superb in it's adoption. Bitcoin is an evolution in working progress and it will take some time to actually overtake the whole Rocker fellers central bank system but even if it doesn't really meet that goal, it's still very beneficial and one thing about evolution, it's doesn't really happen overnight.
1322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 19, 2023, 09:17:33 AM
I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
Erick Ten Hag is just very lucky that Manchester United is not a club that is known for sacking managers easily, if not Erick Ten Hag could have been sacked by Manchester United. I see no good results turning in his favor because Manchester United's last two matches in the Premier League were against Fulham and Luton who are not even playing well in the Premier League, but Manchester United finds it difficult to beat these clubs easily. These are clubs that Manchester United should have beaten with a good goal difference.

I can't agree with this. Manchester united was always sacking its coach when club has been facing several losses in a row. Ten hag is still up and down. Sometimes the club is playing better and sometimes it's not. The upcoming games will be easy game for united to gather 6 points but the hard fixtures is awaiting manchester united after that. I think that there will be some changes to be made by sir him once he will come to the united. I can't wait the big changes to happen with united.

Ten hag will be sacked if there will be no improvement to happen with manchester united. United has been confirming the club will not sack him in a short time but i think that this depends on the result of united in UCL.
failed in helping MU to pass the group stage will become the main reason why manchester united must have sacked ten hag then try to replace him with a better candidate. This is a sense reason to sack him from being an appointment for united.
I did not say that Manchester United does not sack their head coach when they are not producing the results they are paid for but they give them time to see enough reason for sacking them. If Erick Ten Hag was Chelsea's head coach by now he could have been sacked by Chelsea. I see Manchester United giving Erick Ten Hag till January to buy some quality players that will help him fix the problems in Manchester United's squad, but if he fails to turn things around in Manchester United after the January transfer window, I think Manchester United has no choice but to sack he.
Even right now I am still surprised why a change in the managerial powers of the team hasn't been done yet because I know that the team has being completely shattered and I don't expect any changes even in the January transfers because I believe the Manchester united players are deliberately doing the shit that is happening in the club because of how they are all tired of the coach and I know of a certain roman abramovich and the actions he would have taken if he is to be the owners this club.
1323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Solona Airdrop Season on: November 19, 2023, 08:56:56 AM
Is this the reason behind the recent pump of sol? I almost lost hope about sol in the long term after so much drama related with Solana. But it's recent come back is really amazing and it makes me regret about my decision to sell of all my holding after the rumor about massive token unlock schedule of sol owned by ftx.
Wow, I thought I was the only one aware of the massive push that Solana has gotten and I am happy for because during the early part of this year I had some Solana coins of about 87$ left stuck on an exchange although it was reckless to leave it there but I had no choice as I lost the mobile that I used in registering the account and it wasn't till of lately seeing how Solana has pump that I decided to work my way to accessing the funds and i have successfully done that and saw that the coin has grown more than x2.6 of the original 87$ I purchased it for and am still tempted to keep but I withdrew because I don't know what might happen next as altcoins can drop anytime.
1324  Other / Meta / Re: BitcoinTalk 14 years ago on: November 19, 2023, 08:48:45 AM
Come to think of it — I wonder how long Bitcointalk would've survived if it wasn't for signature campaigns? Activity wouldn't be this big if it wasn't for bounties.
It wouldn't have been successful as this I can give you that but it's all part of the process because Bitcoin gaining awareness was bound to be use in some many field and the gambling industry was the ideal business to help boost this rapid growth and with this came so many other initiative that would follow for the awareness of Bitcoin used as a means for gambling and so many other services and where would be the perfect or ideal place of not for the official Bitcointalk site created to help spread the word on Bitcoin.

Well with that been said, happy 14 years anniversary to the forum and massive Bitcoin awareness  Grin
1325  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: The fall of shitcoin/altcoin, the rise of bitcoin on: November 19, 2023, 08:38:32 AM
I greet ona o. I just dey reason how many coin don surface for air after bitcoin. So many of them don fall finish. If you go coingecho or any crypto website, you go see say na everyday coin dey enter market and naso them get short life spam. People wey never know wetting the happen go dey buy am dey Happy say there future don bright not knowing say na junk then they buy. Tera Luna and FTT coin show people shegge and other ones wey I no no. Now people come dey realise say na bitcoin be the Koko. So I come they think wether na these things wey happen to people naim increase bitcoin adoption pass the way e been dey before or bitcoin for just grow without these things wey I talk.

Abeg make ona shear ona idea on wetting ona think dey increase bitcoin adoption
Bitcoin is now at the top thanks to the unique nature and the trust that many people out embedded on it after the first main surge and that has been the success key plus the fact that it's decentralized and not own by anyone make it alot harder to be influenced by the pumper and dumper of crypto. Many of these so called altcoins are actually owned by some big name in the business world and whenever they feel like they can easily dump or pump the coins for their own advantage just like the way Elon musk does to some of his own altcoins.

Another thing is the believe people have come to put on Bitcoin as its can withstand the bear market and the potential that most big firms in the world today see it as a means to generate profits or income massively without stress.
1326  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The people from Bitciontalk are a good company to keep. on: November 19, 2023, 08:27:17 AM
The company you keep has a lot of effect on you. Many Investors who are also forum members would have stopped investing a long time ago or become inconsistent and uncommitted with their investment if they were not in this forum. There is something about being together with people with the same interest you have that I have noticed, their commitment can always motivate you when you feel like giving up, and help you make more stable decisions. Many investors who are not forum members will be finding it difficult to maintain their seriousness to invest regularly because they are doing things on their own. If many of those investors find this forum, it will be very valuable for them.
No doubt that the forum is a good place and yes staying with people of same interest does increases your zeal and will to follow with the same goal as the people you are with but there is still the base of truth that some people still lag behind even when they have this previlledge so I believe you must first work on yourself, on your discipline because even if you are friends to a creative mind and you should to be adamant of his or their influence, you will still end up being the same person as you are and even if you do follow up with having investment like the people around you there is the fact about holding or keeping up with it.
1327  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best exchange to start trading? on: November 19, 2023, 08:15:15 AM
Up until now I have been just buying and patiently waiting for the bull run but in the last week I have seen 2 altcoins I was interested in pump up 40% in less than 24 hours so want to try make some money and give trading a go.

What is the best site for this in the UK?

I am only going to start with $200 roughly to see what I can turn it into over the next few weeks and months as the market is starting to get very volatile so could be good opportunity to make some extra money which would then mean I can invest more into my long term plays.
If you are very experienced about trading then surely you can earn money by trading. But you can use Binance Exchange and kucoin Exchange for trading. Because all these exchange sites are very useful for trading. You can trade with $200 or less it's up to you but always remember not to get too greedy with altcoin and don't hold it for long. Because at any moment the altcoin market can be dumping. Once the altcoin market takes a dump, it takes a long time to recover. I went into trading thinking like you but in return I got hurt in my trading. Whatever your goal is, I hope you succeed.
You are not the only who got affected by trading as I was also a victim of such loss as I thought of how easy people were actually claiming trading is and how much profits they have made from it and this increase my anxiousness and curiosity to get into the trading world and I learnt my lesson the hard way as I lost some tangible fund in trading and since then I don't even believe all these ads about how trading is beneficial and how people are using it to make a living and I bet that if you follow these ads you will just end up crashed and wrecked. Although as for now I see that people are saying that trading can be beneficial if you learn the trade very well but with my experience I think even the so called expert get the losses.
1328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins dead? on: November 19, 2023, 08:08:14 AM
I see nothing wrong with this coins. As a matter of fact these COIN have been in existence for so long. Nobody can determine this project. Just like etherium it  is an altcoin but has survive many hoddles and has follow the footsteps of bitcoin. So checking from it's history etherium is an altcoin with promising futures
No doubt that Ethereum has been surviving the hurdle and the ups and downs that is on the cryptocurrency market but the reason the tag is placed on all altcoins is because if the rapid rate at which most of these new project leave investor in the dark as most of them tend to dump so fast and that's is bad for the image of these altcoins and many of these dead coins has contributed to the name tagged on these altcoins.
1329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Are you in profit? on: November 19, 2023, 08:03:13 AM
It looks like you forgot to lock your other thread @OP.

I vote NO.
I'm not in a condition that benefits from gambling but strangely, I still like gambling even though I lose. I consider that gambling is a pastime that uses money and I don't mind losing a few dollars gambling.
But if you intend to get big wins and lots of money from gambling, you will likely feel disappointed because gambling is not a place to make money.
You can gamble and have fun and after that, you have to leave the casino before you spend all the money.
You can deduce from the poll that not everyone is on the profit side with their gamble habit and that's includes me also as I choose NO. It's moment like this that I tend to succum with the saying that trend the forum about gambling for fun because although we experience these loss, we still tend to gamble sometimes just for the fun that's in it and I do this sometimes when am not knowing or planning for the funds I want to use although it's Been long I fully get involved with my gambling but I know my overall rate are more of loss than profits.
1330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why alt is important on: November 19, 2023, 07:45:47 AM
Alts work well on the basis that they are a short-term investment and a golden opportunity to buy more Bitcoin, but they mean a huge loss if you are greedy or try to bet that the price will increase after reaching ATH or think about selling at a point close to that. The rule says to withdraw your profits whenever It came true. You should not try to withdraw them to the wallets because sometimes your coins may be burned or you may not be able to deposit them again or even forget about them.
Yeah a truly good initiative when you relate it to short term trade because I feel thats the only way you can be successful in acquiring some profits on some altcoins out there in the crypto space. Although altcoins still add diversity to the crypto industry as not everyone would be sole stuck on one coins and I will relate this to the scenerio that is happening with Bitcoin now in terms of the high rate as many people do swap to other altcoins to either complete their transaction as they are much less fee for the sending of these altcoins compare to Bitcoin for now due to the increase fee hike.
1331  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Your take on buying an expensive phone like iPhone 15 on: November 19, 2023, 07:38:22 AM
Perhaps OP we may not really blame those that bought IPhone of 500k because we don't know what they are using it for because there are some kind of business that requires an iPhone that has a good quality camera, because if you are into content creation you will know the need to have an iPhone that has a good quality camera.

Although for me if I don't have a business that require an iPhone I don't think I can use such money to buy a phone on less I have a lot of money were it came from.
That's very correct because I have a cousin sister who was really upset with getting an iphone and she was going crazy just to get her fingers on one but we all didn't know her purpose so I asked her one day that if I get her the phone what will she use it for ? She answered for business purpose obviously and I asked what business do you want to do that you cant do with every other smart phone but she later explained she is into make up and cosmetics and in their filled of business packaging and design is what catches the eye and attract other users.  The iphone was to give her works a certain image quality that would make it look even outstanding and attract more customer and the idea was acceptable by me because where you get your daily bread, you don't joke with it.
1332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are there fewer women Than men involved in Bitcoin? on: November 19, 2023, 07:29:32 AM
When I checked the statistics of women who are into Bitcoin and found out that they are less than 10%, it surprised me seriously. It is understandable when we see fewer women than men in sectors that require physical energy to carry out work activity like the military or in the engineering sector but when you still see this same work force difference in the tech and Bitcoin space that they can comfortably do at the comfort of there home, it gets me curious to know the reason that might have been responsible for this huge gap.

I would appreciate if we can talk about this here. What could be responsible for this?
I don't know how you were able to check the stats about this particular thought of yours but I won't doubt the fact though that they might be more men than women in the crypto space but there is this fact again around this logic which is the issue of every user involved in the internet is first declared as a male until its further clarification and even in the forum here it's a major thing. During the last community award here where users had to vote for members on some specific awards many people voted wrongly on a specific award meant for the lady of forum.
1333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you guys think on: November 18, 2023, 08:49:03 PM
And what's your take on the right time to buy? For me buying the right coins is actually the real case because most people tend to make the mistake of actually purchasing shitcoins which dump in no time because of the short pump some these coin have. For me if you want to want to invest or buy any altcoins you should remove greed because that would be the start of your downfall.
The optimal time to enter the market is after your approach has been implemented. The market is constantly available for traders and investors to trigger beneficial points of entry, but not all of these traders rejoice at the end of their trades but with full concentration; they tend to lose an enormous amount of money, and some don't even reach their anticipated primary objectives. Everyone is looking for massive gains; what can prevent us from accomplishing this goal is if the market does not move according to our plans and instead moves sideways, undermining our steps and methods in the market.
I don't know if you have seen the market or actually know what the market was design for ? Because it was design for these so called loses to occur because it's like a business trade and in every business, loses is bound to happen and the need and want to get back this loses is what makes the trade interesting. Traders tend to try to get a better half of the market everytime but the issue is that these losses are bound to happen always.
1334  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: When you think you have seen it all. on: November 18, 2023, 08:34:05 PM
There is no way you will think about this current economy in Nigeria you will not share tears for Nigeria. I thought I have seen it all for poor economy until I saw this new economy that is coming like what will end many people lifes in the land and, the new officials are not coming with minds of fighting some of the things that caused all those things to happened in the past government. I thought that what we saw in Jonathan economy is a worst economy to the citizens of Nigeria until I seen Buhari economy that turned to fire into the lifes of the citizens, were the price of commodities increase double, and cashless politics was like fuel pumping the hardship that made many youths to start finding their way to other countries to save their lifes, and many  industries stopped working for Buhari regime because of the huge amount of taxes the government officials was generating from the companies that was accommodating some citizens to have something to earn monthly to fend their families, and it caused many companies to fold up and many citizens went with frustration.

I thought, I have seen it all until I begin to see some things that is worst than the previous economy. I used to buy a liter of fuel #180 in Buhari regime but, since we entered this new regime the price of fuel hit #500 that made many things to went wrongs in the Nigeria economy and the worst thing is that the new government is not bring any strategies that will improve the weak economy. This is my question, How will Nigeria economy look like when this new government is approaching her second tenure? Because the way the new government economy look like now show, that we are about to enter disaster that will make other country to take over the country.
What is your opinion my Naija people.

But with all this thing's wey dey happen O.P you know say we get people wey still dey enjoy the economy, like I just weak as it stands now for this hard time for where I dey stay inside an estate building dey go on like I come dey ask my self where this people dey see money ehh... Many dey cry and these ones dey build houses. Fuel now is ₦670 for where I dey state other places ₦650 and so on  the price no even one drop, December like this people no go fit travel on to say fuel go Cost weytin no good... mtcheeew I tire
The hike of prices of thing for the time of the year supposed cut across every thing possible and already we for my area don already dey see the effects and this no be only for fuel oo, the matter touch everywhere and like this transportation as you talk am go dey very very hard well well and many people no go actually get joy for this year ending because of the hardship of things. For where i dey stay fuel price e reach up to 750naira and this na black market price sha because even to see the fuel buy sef na big wahala
1335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 18, 2023, 08:17:19 PM

Considering Liverpool's general performance since the start of the season, I think it's very much realizable for them to end the season with the English Premier League title as well as the UEFA Europa League trophy.
They have all needed quality of players to achieve that feat as well as a manager that's good enough to help them do the double. But u think they'll have stiffer opponents in the Europa League in the knockout stages and that's when they'll be seriously tested
Yes, looking at the progress they made after undergoing a difficult phase, they are slowly getting better, and now in the English premier league they are also in a very good position to be able to provide competition for the race to become champions. In the Europa League they stumbled in their last match, but their chances of being in the next round are very high. I'm also sure Jurgen Klopp will make the best of it in these 2 different competitions, in the English Premier League and in the Europa League. Their strength is slowly returning, I think they have started to find their true selves.
I admit that Liverpool's performance is very good in every match, they are able to look more consistent in Premier League matches, even in this European League, Liverpool is able to show a strong desire and great enthusiasm to win the title in this European League and even though we don't know what will happen because We still have a long way to go and we definitely still believe that Klopp will provide his best strategy to bring Liverpool to the best ranking.
Liverpool is one of the most decorated team in the competition and they have indeed step up from last season performance and I believe jorgen kloop is a very consistent man and will do everything in his power to actually keep them working and strong in the competition. Liverpool can go as far as securing the title and also do well in the premier league because they have all the players and tools necessary for the feat to be achieve.
1336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Letting the cat out of the bag on: November 18, 2023, 08:09:08 PM
I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.
Gambling addiction normally is something of self discipline and determination so I believe that what you said that it's actually the affected person that can help himself stop this act. Most addicted person that I know are very hard to give advice to and even if you give them advice they usually tend to do what's in their mind and that's why only the person that is affected can help himself. But most cases I have seen too, the affected person usually get some help from family and friends, especially people that have gone to the extreme with their hobby.
1337  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Reason you still invest in BTC on: November 18, 2023, 07:48:27 PM
The main reason I still investing Bitcoin because after joining Bitcoin talk I know many thinks about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Before joining in Bitcoin talk I have many wrong things about Bitcoin and Bitcointalk change my full mind setup.I still investing Bitcoin because Bitcoin insure us to get profit after investment and this is the safest currency ever get profit without risk your money.
You make it sound so simple and easy as if an investment in Bitcoin actually yield profit in some split seconds or something you get overnight , no doubt that the reason you came or choose Bitcoin as a means of investment is because of the  profits but I like to think that it's not all that simple because an investment is something that requires planning and discipline because Bitcoin doesn't give you that profits so easy like that, so many investor have investor their money on Bitcoin but at the long run of their investment, lost everything because of FOMO and impatient.
1338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are Altcoins Fake? on: November 18, 2023, 07:39:14 PM
They always think about that since for them crypto is so easy for them to earn a lot of money. But once they find out the harsh reality about it then they get dismayed and think that all about on altcoin is really fake. If they could just able to research for best potential altcoins then provably they will not go on risky situation for picking up those scam tokens and they might always go hold or trade those top alts in the market which is good to have especially if there's a bull run will came.

To many new investors got hype with new project since they think that the price will go the same with bitcoin but they meet those unexpected things happen and get scam by those new alts. So to avoid getting scam much better if they do think about real situation about it and again research will give them more idea about many things they want to join with.
In my opinion new traders overestimate their capabilities in an extreme way, and this is because they believe themselves capable of selecting a coin that will skyrocket soon among the thousands of coins we have in the market, and that is crazy, as I am sure there are many people which have been part of this market for years which cannot do this and yet they believe themselves capable of doing it.

So it is not surprising they take those high risks as they believe themselves to be immune to them, and they will only learn the truth once they are burned several times by their mistaken decisions.
I don't believe that it is because of the their confidence that prompt them to actually make such decision, I feel its the gambling spirit that rides in them as I know this because every trader is somehow related to a gambler and they like to take the risk on every investment choices as the risk is what brings the profits but since it's a two sided affair losses sometimes might be the result of this risk investment but it's quite normal as their are already used to the system.
1339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is there so much interest in popular cryptocurrencies? on: November 18, 2023, 07:30:11 PM


What is more important to you in the world of cryptocurrencies - their prominence or their potential to make a real impact on the industry?

The potential to provide profits in the future is the main factor for everyone investing and as a consideration, the superiority of the coin is the basis for providing potential for the coin.
We can see that 10 altcoins provide their respective advantages and potential so that they are worthy of competing for investment
The sole and major reason for people to be interesting in anything crypto is just because of the massive profits which one can acquire in a limited time of space in an Investment in the right coin obviously because a purchase in the wrong one will definitely result to a loss of asset. there are alot of altcoins out there and one need to be very careful as most of these projects are majorly shitcoins.
1340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Eloncoin will be massive. on: November 18, 2023, 04:49:43 PM


What do you guys think about eloncoin?


This was my previous question from Eloncoin until I found this thread,
It turns out that Eloncoin is just a coin from fans, not made by Elon Musk
and I don't think it's necessary to think about it and maintain it because only some of the meme coins rely on the fomo of an Elon Musk
That's why it's important to make concrete research on the project you tend to advertise before jumping to any conclusion on the product. Many people and even worker on same campaign are on the dark about this particular project being a creation of fan who adore Elon and not actually a project of Elon musk himself. At first I won't denied that I actually thought same thing too but after following up this I come to realization that doge coin and Shiba are the project which Elon has some influence on.
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