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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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November 18, 2023, 02:52:39 PM
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Some of the fans are concluding based on emotions, which is very wrong because emotions can never lead you to say the truth. But truth be told, Manchester United is too big for Ten Hag, which is why he is not able to put things in place to bring the best result for Manchester United; some fans were able to understand, while others are still arguing blindly that he is a good coach that will bring victory back to Old Trafford.

Ten Hag actually tried last season to win a trophy for United, but his thinking ability as a coach is not world-class thinking because, from his way of substitution, he is not proving himself as world-class coach due to some errors he does make, which he usually refers to as tactics whenever he is doing his post-match conference. Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag for them to become the world-class team they used to be.

If you feel like Manchester United is too big for Erik Ten Hag to handle, then eh mate,  take your CV and go do a better job than he's currently doing. I can't even wrap my head around a manager that would do a good job right now. ( Not Zizou, Maybe Hansi Flick would be peng )

He is the number one manager for Manchester United to have more wins in his first fifty games. You should also go check about Sir Alex Ferguson, he was pressured in the same way during his early coaching days for Manchester United.
Just so you know, Sir Alex Ferguson and the board members of Manchester United are fully backing Erik Ten Hag for the job. The results he had last season displayed if he has the right tools he'll use them well.
There is a level you get to and the the elasticity breaks. For how long will Erik Ten Hag enjoy the backing of Sir Alex Ferguson and other top executives at the club. I think ETH knows if the results are not forthcoming, he will get fired. Manchester United have not been convincing this season, they are on the verge of being knocked out of the champions league. One can easily say Manchester United have been wining matches based on luck. I think if Manchester United change owners, there is a huge possible that the new owner may show ETH the exit door.


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November 18, 2023, 02:53:05 PM
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Everton have been at the bottom of the standings for a few years now and at the end of every season they are fighting to stay in the EPL... These 10 points are very important for them because they have 14 points from 12 games... So now they are in danger of not being able to climb out of the relegation zone before the end of the season...
There is no threat too early for Everton because this season is still very long. There are the next 26 matches that could see Everton return to mid-table or enter the top 10 because perhaps all the teams above them will slip due to changes in their form of play. I'm sure the points deduction they received will affect the team and its form, but they have to recover and get into good form in each of the next games. After all, this is not the end of everything for them and honestly they will learn a lot from their mistakes from now on.

Everton's performance in the last two seasons has indeed declined and they tend to struggle hard at the bottom to avoid relegation. Of course, they have to be very careful if they don't want to be relegated this season, especially after getting 10 points deducted for their mistake.

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November 18, 2023, 02:55:34 PM
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Future Manchester United owner Jim Ratcliffe wants to bring former manager Ferguson back to the team.
They are preparing a place for him in working with transfers.
He can help the team a lot.
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November 18, 2023, 02:59:35 PM
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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.

Manchester United problem is just too hard to get grasp on, you will feel it is from the coach and sometimes you might as well think it is from the players, but whoever amongst the two is the cause of their problem, it is not good for the team. With the way they are playing, they don’t seem optimistic to go far in this league this season, not even a top four spot is guaranteed for them yet because of how poorly and inconsistent they play recently. They are having a bad time in the champions league and also having the same in the premier league which is not a good sign and a very highly dissatisfied result from Eric Ten Hag. If he was a manager at Chelsea, he would have been sacked by now. Let him try and improve the team before it is too late for him.

This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

This will a very huge devastating news to them, it will definitely shock them and feel weakened. For a team like Everton who have been struggling in the premier League recently will just make their performance deteriorate the more after this point was deducted. They are now 4 points on the table and on 19th position after 10 points was deducted from their total points. This team also suffered to escape relegation last season and they are now in the relegation zone again. 10 points is not a small point to get back with the way the premier league has become very competitive to even win a match. I hope they get over it soon and the point reduction should serve as an encouragement for them to do more in their remaining matches to be played.

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November 18, 2023, 03:01:28 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver

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November 18, 2023, 03:17:13 PM
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Its hard for me not to feel sorry for Everton right now. Its hard to see a team get punished so badly for making mistakes with money. It feels like all of their hard work for those 14 points has been wasted now that 10 points have been taken away. I get the need for rules, but this seems a bit harsh, especially when you hear that bigger clubs like Manchester City are also being investigated in the same way but arent facing any instant consequences. Seriously, I hope Everton can get through this rough patch.

In the second line, its clear that things are very bad for Everton. They really suffered when they fell into the relegation zone, especially since they were doing pretty well before the penalty. As they try to get back points against both strong and weak teams, it will be hard for them. I just hope that they can keep going and find the strength to do so. These events could either break them or make them better as a team. It will be clear in due time.
Everton have been docked 10 points, the heaviest punishment ever handed to any EPL side, for breaching financial rules, leading them down to the relegation zone of the EPL log, the severity of the punishment surprised Everton, who feel a sporting sanction for what they believe is a disagreement over accountancy interpretations is unjust and they would want to appeal, the decision has put into focus other Premier League clubs  investigations and how those clubs will be dealt with if also found guilty.

 Both Manchester City and Chelsea are being tried and could face more worst sanctions than that of Everton, well with this crazy sanction, I think it could kill the morale of the team and make them struggle more because this is so heartbreaking but the team needs to play with hopes of the verdict being overturned.

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November 18, 2023, 03:38:25 PM
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Its hard for me not to feel sorry for Everton right now. Its hard to see a team get punished so badly for making mistakes with money. It feels like all of their hard work for those 14 points has been wasted now that 10 points have been taken away. I get the need for rules, but this seems a bit harsh, especially when you hear that bigger clubs like Manchester City are also being investigated in the same way but arent facing any instant consequences. Seriously, I hope Everton can get through this rough patch.

In the second line, its clear that things are very bad for Everton. They really suffered when they fell into the relegation zone, especially since they were doing pretty well before the penalty. As they try to get back points against both strong and weak teams, it will be hard for them. I just hope that they can keep going and find the strength to do so. These events could either break them or make them better as a team. It will be clear in due time.
Everton have been docked 10 points, the heaviest punishment ever handed to any EPL side, for breaching financial rules, leading them down to the relegation zone of the EPL log, the severity of the punishment surprised Everton, who feel a sporting sanction for what they believe is a disagreement over accountancy interpretations is unjust and they would want to appeal, the decision has put into focus other Premier League clubs  investigations and how those clubs will be dealt with if also found guilty.

 Both Manchester City and Chelsea are being tried and could face more worst sanctions than that of Everton, well with this crazy sanction, I think it could kill the morale of the team and make them struggle more because this is so heartbreaking but the team needs to play with hopes of the verdict being overturned.
I feel for Everton losing a whooping 10 points off their total points due to financial rule breach now 19th on the table, however I was surprised with Everton hastily got punished while clubs like Man City and Chelsea cases still lingered on, I think a final judgement should have been released involving all the three clubs facing those charges  it obvious Man City and Chelsea had overspent on signing of players while their own cases is ongoing I hope a fair decision is taken on their cases too within the shortest period of time for equitable  and fair dispensing of justice, meanwhile I hope Everton players is motivated with this punishment to fight relegation battle.

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November 18, 2023, 03:57:07 PM
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There is no threat too early for Everton because this season is still very long. There are the next 26 matches that could see Everton return to mid-table or enter the top 10 because perhaps all the teams above them will slip due to changes in their form of play. I'm sure the points deduction they received will affect the team and its form, but they have to recover and get into good form in each of the next games. After all, this is not the end of everything for them and honestly they will learn a lot from their mistakes from now on.

Everton's performance in the last two seasons has indeed declined and they tend to struggle hard at the bottom to avoid relegation. Of course, they have to be very careful if they don't want to be relegated this season, especially after getting 10 points deducted for their mistake.
Remaining two points behind Luton Town as latest from relegation position its not really huge problem for Everton keep stay in Premier League next season after 10 points deduction. Have 26 matches left its more enough to secure minimum 41 points keep stay in Premier League competition, have advantage with current standings teams until 15th position behind collected 12 points will not difficult for Everton get finish target outside from relegation zone.

Realistic with Everton target in this season is how to make their position keep secure in premier league, they should focus on upcoming match against Manchester United after international break out and should take three points. Before half season, Everton should out from relegation zone if want make easy how to defend position in Premier League.

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November 18, 2023, 04:18:44 PM
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It must be really frustrating for Everton officials to see that only they are getting this punishment. Because in the past Manchester City faced this punishment "threat" many times but didn't get any officially. Double standard is being applied clearly when it comes to top teams in the Premier League. This is so wrong.
Everton has been struggling since the early season to get 14 points and then it must be losing 10 points due to the FFP breach. There's no worst thing rather than seeing how everton lost 10 points. It was kicking everton back again to the relegation zone.
After EPL was sanctioning everton and there have been also many rumors that said that if chelsea and manchester city will be relegated. It's due to the same mistake being made by chelsea and manchester city.
It seems like that public is trying to speak up now regarding this problem. Im very disappointed to see that happened to the everton but since club has accepted its guilty and nothing wrong with it.

Now after this decision Everton are in the relegation zone.  Sad  The season was already not going on easy for them and now it has become much more difficult because of this reason.
Yeah, everton needs to put more effort to leave from the relegation zone. It was kicking everton so hard. 4 points remaining at this moment. The league is also going even closer to the end of season.
I can't even imagine what kind of strategy that may be prepared by everton to leave from the relegation zone. This job is not that easy.

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November 18, 2023, 04:27:17 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

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November 18, 2023, 04:48:12 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

It seems like Erik ten Hag has a poor way of building harmony in the team so yes, the result was a collapse because he didn't manage to build good chemistry in the squad. I think, the main thing that a coach should do in building a team is about prioritizing harmonization, and Erik ten Hag does not have good skills in this matter. Therefore, then of course Erik ten Hag will not last long at Manchester United, because of course Manchester United also wants to have good harmony of course to support the team's performance to be even better.

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November 18, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
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It must be really frustrating for Everton officials to see that only they are getting this punishment. Because in the past Manchester City faced this punishment "threat" many times but didn't get any officially. Double standard is being applied clearly when it comes to top teams in the Premier League. This is so wrong.

Now after this decision Everton are in the relegation zone.  Sad  The season was already not going on easy for them and now it has become much more difficult because of this reason.

The punishment given to Everton is just too much and I don’t think it’s fair to the players after working so hard to get those points, IMO sanctioning the management or those involved would do. Should financial matters impacts the ratings on the league table. Everton has had a tough season, and just when they are fighting hard to come back to winning times, this whole deduction happened. I can’t help but wonder what scale of punishment will be given to Manchester City or Chelsea if they are found guilty of any breaches in the last nine years?

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November 18, 2023, 04:51:52 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

It seems like Erik ten Hag has a poor way of building harmony in the team so yes, the result was a collapse because he didn't manage to build good chemistry in the squad. I think, the main thing that a coach should do in building a team is about prioritizing harmonization, and Erik ten Hag does not have good skills in this matter. Therefore, then of course Erik ten Hag will not last long at Manchester United, because of course Manchester United also wants to have good harmony of course to support the team's performance to be even better.

But since so many people think that Erik ten Hag is doing a bad job at building harmony and cohesion within the team but also between him and the players, others from the Manchester United administration also have to notice that. Is it just a wrong impression that so many people have or does Erik ten Hag really suck so hard in terms of interrelationships with his players? Because if it is true, I think getting rid of him is the only solution that would help the club. Waiting until they are at the lowest bottom possible could be too late.

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November 18, 2023, 04:54:15 PM
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If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.
Recording good results is compulsory for an elite team like Manchester United in EPL this season. Erik Ten Hag will be fire in due time, because he has failed to elevate the team back to good standards of winning and there performance have declined. Erik Ten Hag should fixed the problems because there's more coming on the way. Manchester United have been transformed to be a mediocre team following their present performance in EPL this season. They keep struggling to win games which doesn't rhyme with  the present state of the club.

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November 18, 2023, 04:56:42 PM
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Remaining two points behind Luton Town as latest from relegation position its not really huge problem for Everton keep stay in Premier League next season after 10 points deduction. Have 26 matches left its more enough to secure minimum 41 points keep stay in Premier League competition, have advantage with current standings teams until 15th position behind collected 12 points will not difficult for Everton get finish target outside from relegation zone.

Realistic with Everton target in this season is how to make their position keep secure in premier league, they should focus on upcoming match against Manchester United after international break out and should take three points. Before half season, Everton should out from relegation zone if want make easy how to defend position in Premier League.
Last season Everton was only able to win 8 matches and draw 12 from 38 matches, but they only had 2 points more than relegated Leicester. Everton were only saved by matchday 38 last season, otherwise they would also have been relegated. Of course this season they have the chance to stay in the Premier League, but in my opinion it is not easy for those whose performance has been inconsistent in the last two seasons.

But either way, Everton can still be expected to find themselves this season. They need to work hard to prove that and personally I believe they can do it. They just need more effort and hard work after being deducted points, but they are still better than some other teams such as Luton Town and Bournemouth if they don't get deducted 10 points.

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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver

Are you saying, Jadon Sancho wouldn't be leaving the club anytime soon? I'd love that though, he was the llone goal scorer that scored in the game that sparked Manchester United form against Liverpool last season. Honestly, a story has both sides but the media has chose to back the manager over the player. Erik Ten Hag though have been very sentimental with his selections and decisions, I still ponder and  wonder how many nights he's had enough sleep since Manchester United chaos started. Someone interview and ask if he's having enough sleep.

I can't say for the Champions League, Manchester United qualifies or not, they shouldn't fail to do that in the Premier League top four. I want to see them back at the top of the league table before December comes to an end.

Good GOD! The weekend boring ASF without the Premier League games.... International breaks be breaking the important players. Shit!!

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Are you saying, Jadon Sancho wouldn't be leaving the club anytime soon? I'd love that though, he was the llone goal scorer that scored in the game that sparked Manchester United form against Liverpool last season. Honestly, a story has both sides but the media has chose to back the manager over the player. Erik Ten Hag though have been very sentimental with his selections and decisions, I still ponder and  wonder how many nights he's had enough sleep since Manchester United chaos started. Someone interview and ask if he's having enough sleep.
The problem is that there is an unfairness that occurs if this only returns to benefit Ten Hag if Sancho leaves.
Even though I didn't really expect anything from this and Sancho also didn't really fit at Manchester United but when he left in a situation where it seemed as if he was sent off for arguing with the coach then indeed indirectly this also proved again that Ten Hag was a coach who had a high level of ego and he did not hesitate to remove players from the squad for disciplinary reasons because it did not match his understanding and indirectly Sancho was the second player at Manchester United after Ronaldo who left and the third player because one of the Ajax players had also felt the same way in the Ten Hag era a few seasons ago.

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November 18, 2023, 05:06:36 PM
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Its hard for me not to feel sorry for Everton right now. Its hard to see a team get punished so badly for making mistakes with money. It feels like all of their hard work for those 14 points has been wasted now that 10 points have been taken away. I get the need for rules, but this seems a bit harsh, especially when you hear that bigger clubs like Manchester City are also being investigated in the same way but arent facing any instant consequences. Seriously, I hope Everton can get through this rough patch.

In the second line, its clear that things are very bad for Everton. They really suffered when they fell into the relegation zone, especially since they were doing pretty well before the penalty. As they try to get back points against both strong and weak teams, it will be hard for them. I just hope that they can keep going and find the strength to do so. These events could either break them or make them better as a team. It will be clear in due time.
Everton have been docked 10 points, the heaviest punishment ever handed to any EPL side, for breaching financial rules, leading them down to the relegation zone of the EPL log, the severity of the punishment surprised Everton, who feel a sporting sanction for what they believe is a disagreement over accountancy interpretations is unjust and they would want to appeal, the decision has put into focus other Premier League clubs  investigations and how those clubs will be dealt with if also found guilty.

 Both Manchester City and Chelsea are being tried and could face more worst sanctions than that of Everton, well with this crazy sanction, I think it could kill the morale of the team and make them struggle more because this is so heartbreaking but the team needs to play with hopes of the verdict being overturned.
This is the biggest punishment ever in the history of football where 10 points was deducted through to voilation of law. This took Everton to 19th position on the table. It will really be hard for them to put themselves back into the competition. This was the same thing that affected Juventus last season in SeriaA that made them not qualify for the Champions league.

Manchester City and Chelsea will also face the same consequences if they are found guilty and this will definitely affect Manchester City the chance of winning the premier league this season because it will be a big blow to them.

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November 18, 2023, 05:08:39 PM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be worried about losing his job at this time in the season. Results are turning in their favor whether we think it’s impressive or not. The champions league may be the deal breaker, it will be really bad if they are knocked out of every competition. That will be a red flag for ETH to leave. Jim Ratcliffe will be looking to make some changes to the club, he has already told Ten Hag to sort his issues with Sancho. It’s left to Ten Hag to bury the hatchet with Sancho and do his best to assure the new owner of his ability to deliver
If he still wants to be at Manchester United for a long time, then he must immediately fix the problems in the club, be it in the game or things outside of it, such as harmonization between players and so on. What I see from Manchester United now is that they don't seem to have good harmonization. Because however in a club it must be created and will later affect their chemistry on the field.
Since Ten Hag joined Manchester United, I see there are always personal problems, and the biggest is his dispute with Ronaldo.

The current lack of harmony among players is a significant concern, because it directly impacts their performance on the field. Ten Hag must prioritize fostering a cohesive and compact team. Ten Hag should build a team with a strong character in their gameplay and in the squad environment. he should demand the situational distance between his squad and media for his team avoiding any issue go out of control.

Achieving long-term success at Manchester United should not be a conversation at the moment. The ongoing dispute between Ten Hag and Ronaldo epitomizes the challenges he faces in creating a harmonious environment. Resolving this issue is crucial to restoring stability and unity within the squad.

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November 18, 2023, 05:12:40 PM
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Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.
Everton will definitely bounce back from their set back though it's really going to affect them big time and tell on their results they will be having on the nearest future, they are most likely to get out of relegation soonest, I'd they can continually perform brilliantly as they have in the recent past.

Their next match is against Manchester united, if they are really good, considering the recent form Manchester united has, they will be able to get a point from that match and if possible get full points if they are able to perform better than Manchester united will do, that will really had greatly to their chances of leaving the temporary relegation line almost immediately,.but then they are very likely to stay out relegation before the season ends.

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