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1321  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones does real issues (gun rights and anti-depressant drugs) a dis-service on: January 08, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
If jones changed his Ranting a lot more fucking people would listen to him . And another thing the guy doesn't fukn listen when he has a guest.
They guys is Fully living in his own universe. . And, if he had more communication skills like * listening * maybe people would give him more time of day. . I don't disagree with his subject. i think they hold absolute truth. But ffs alex  " Calm the f k down. . Ranting outburst is not communicating . I followed him for a while but i couldn't agree with  the mad outbursts all the time. . he's getting the truth out there but in the coarsest way possible. A disservice . Yes . But he's still getiing the truth out there * cringe *. Fucking well educated though.

Me too, I used to enjoy listening to him on certain subjects from time to time but his ranting really turned me off even though his information, facts and messages were generally spot on.  I wonder if his friend and colleagues have said anything or if that is taboo?
1322  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 08, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
Oh, so close! Tell me, who starts the companies that start the companies that start the companies...?

And certainly subsidiaries aren't the only way that companies get started, are they?

And who runs those companies?

If this is how you are going to use logic then we are not actually debating anything of substance and if you are truly support nuclear weapons in the hands of the private citizens then you are mentally unstable to the point that if you were making laws, rules or policies voluntary or not, DANGEROUS.  Your advocating lunacy.   I am not going to debate with someone with such a large lack on sense by advocating dangerous ideas.   I mean dangerous to anyone around people who would be implementing them.

I should not or anyone else, need to be under potential threat of some person with an ICBM in his lawn that one day might decide I am going to arm and light this thing off someday because he decides to leave the ranch.   This is just one example and I am sure he has many more of these extreme ideas in his oh so large brain of his.   Utter non-sense.   Good day sir.


Dalkore
1323  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 08, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
Advocating the general public access to nuclear weapons.  I laugh at you all.  No sense between the lot of you.    Maybe an asteroid mining company with very stringent rules and regulations.

And who starts and runs those asteroid mining companies?

A company I would hope.

Not too bright, are you?

A company starts a company. Cheesy

Let's try again, this time devoting a few more seconds of thought to your answer.

I know where your going with this and your irresponsible to try to extend that logic to the point where anyone should have a nuke.  You are the one who is showing they are not very bright.   Please do continue you to discredit yourself.  It just takes away from serious consideration of other decent points you have made.  

Continue please....

P.S.  For the record, yes companies can start companies, they are called subsidiaries.
1324  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 08, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Advocating the general public access to nuclear weapons.  I laugh at you all.  No sense between the lot of you.    Maybe an asteroid mining company with very stringent rules and regulations.

And who starts and runs those asteroid mining companies?

A company I would hope.
1325  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: January 08, 2013, 06:33:17 PM
Advocating the general public access to nuclear weapons.  I laugh at you all.  No sense between the lot of you.    Maybe an asteroid mining company with very stringent rules and regulations.
1326  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones does real issues (gun rights and anti-depressant drugs) a dis-service on: January 08, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
First article reviewing the debate:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2013/0108/Piers-Morgan-vs.-Alex-Jones-on-gun-control-Who-won-wild-debate
1327  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Hurricane Sandy False Flag on: January 08, 2013, 05:59:49 PM
What I am saying is if you are going to take on speculation like this, you need hard tangible evidence or all you have is a good story.

The prediction is interesting, but not in itself proof. After all, how many people make predictions every day that never come true? Finding one that did is like finding a few dice that came up six after dumping a couple hundred on the table. But saying that it's just a weather forecast is equally fallacious.

I said it "could" be.  
1328  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Hurricane Sandy False Flag on: January 08, 2013, 05:45:49 PM
This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Like this one?

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/TSRATLForecastAug2012.pdf

Quote
TSR continues to predict the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season will see activity close to the long-term
 (1950-2011) norm. TSR reduces its forecast for US landfalling hurricane activity to 10% below-
       norm. The precision of TSR’s early August outlooks for Atlantic hurricane activity
                                   for the past decade is good.


There may be even more accurate forecasts that are not disclosed publicly.  What we should not do is get off on some tangent like this with pretty flimsy evidence.  I agree the timely is quite interesting but if that is all we have, might as well move on.  Too many dead-ends.  Instead we should be talking about real issues that we can actually do something about.

So, your defense against allegations of a cover-up is... a possible cover-up.

I agree though that this is hacking at the branches.

No defense.  What I am saying is if you are going to take on speculation like this, you need hard tangible evidence or all you have is a good story.  That is why investigations are essential and archiving information & evidence as soon as it happens is crucial to build a case.
1329  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones does real issues (gun rights and anti-depressant drugs) a dis-service on: January 08, 2013, 05:43:19 PM
@Myrkul - Yeah, they are both Alarmists.  Still I see it as a blown opportunity to real discuss these issues. 
1330  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Deposit accepts from 1-5% for one month on: January 08, 2013, 05:32:04 PM
I can make my full guarantee, this is because I can make sure no coin is lost during the trade.

If you do not want to make invest I ask for you to leave, and not be this troll.

I can prove myself to be the successful deposit accept. Why make these false assumptions?

1.  How can you make sure no coins are lost?  (Red-flag #1  Risk-free investment)

2.  Why can I not air my concerns? (Red-flag #2 If you don't support me, shut-up)

3.  Deposit Accept? (Red-flag #3 Bad Grammar, is this was a real prospectus, bad grammar would be a serious issue)

4.  False Assumptions (Red-flag #4 - Assumption that concerns about the investment and issuers are automatically false)


In closing, this follows all scams that were dressed up as deposit takers.  You have a lot of explaining to do sir.
1331  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Hurricane Sandy False Flag on: January 08, 2013, 05:23:03 PM
This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Like this one?

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/TSRATLForecastAug2012.pdf

Quote
TSR continues to predict the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season will see activity close to the long-term
 (1950-2011) norm. TSR reduces its forecast for US landfalling hurricane activity to 10% below-
       norm. The precision of TSR’s early August outlooks for Atlantic hurricane activity
                                   for the past decade is good.


There may be even more accurate forecasts that are not disclosed publicly.  What we should not do is get off on some tangent like this with pretty flimsy evidence.  I agree the timely is quite interesting but if that is all we have, might as well move on.  Too many dead-ends.  Instead we should be talking about real issues that we can actually do something about.
1332  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Hurricane Sandy False Flag on: January 08, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
Zero evidence except a story written on reddit.

...written a month before the hurricane.

This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   
1333  Other / Politics & Society / Alex Jones does real issues (gun rights and anti-depressant drugs) a dis-service on: January 08, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
Here is a link to the full video (if it isn't, link it and I'll update).

He was invited on a widely syndicated TV show and I think he really watered down his message by not calmly engaging in the debate.  He disrespected Piers on his show and they allows people who may be on the fence about this, to dismiss his message and the whole point of debate is really to sway people who have not fully dug in to a position.  Sure you can sometimes get them to re-evaluate their position but that is much more unlikely.

I support Mr. Jones historical examples of dis-arming the population and what usually happens and the fact we are not talking about these prescription drugs that most people are on that have serious black-box warnings about suicide and violent outbursts.  Also the fact the almost all of these mass killings, the people committing them were on them.  I will also add we have a culture that glorifies violence and that does have a sub-conscious affect of numbing us to real violence.

He really should of conducted himself more professionally on this program to really bring these issues into the MSM debate.  I believe he will be panned and dismissed because of this conduct.


Thoughts?

Dalkore
1334  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Hurricane Sandy False Flag on: January 08, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
Zero evidence except a story written on reddit.  Silly.

Yes climate engineering (geo-engineering) is real and maybe they have been weaponized.
1335  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: EVGA P67 FTW on: January 07, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
Good board.  I run a P55 FTW from EVGA and it has been rock solid.
1336  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: A high yield bond: low risk, Interst paid daily, 0.2%-1.2% on: January 07, 2013, 06:02:05 PM
Did anyone invest in this business or did it end it up being a scam?

Scam
1337  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Deposit accepts from 1-5% for one month on: January 07, 2013, 06:01:27 PM
Lol.  Anybody who deposits is an idiot, but we all know that already.

But all are full guarantee on him?  Huh

If they are "full" guarantee, then why would he need anyone's coins?  You would already have all the coins you need to invest in your trading system.
1338  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bill Introduced By Marxists To End Term Limits For The Presidency Of The USA on: January 07, 2013, 05:54:27 PM
How is this similar with the world today? lets see, it took the Roman Empire 75 years to disintegrate, will it happen faster this time?

Weimarr republic disintegrated pretty fast. Of course, they had to use actual printed money... I'm not sure if digital "spreadsheet money" will delay the inevitable, or hasten it.

With "digital money" as you put it, is obscured a bit because of the accounting tricks we pull using our Treasury and Central Bank.  Currently the Central Bank is purchasing over 80% of all treasury auctions.  That is quite a figure. 

What will happen is either food and fuel prices will go to levels that push a majority of people into poverty or people will just lose confidence in our system and really pull back and start pulling their money from the banks.  It is the ordinary person losing confidence in our system which will likely cause it to collapse.   When that will be, is anyone's guess.  You will just have to see how absurd we will get with out fiscal polices and entitlement programs.
1339  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the minimum prerequisites for Capitalism to be possible? on: January 07, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
For the sake of argument, let's assume that human beings are like programmable Lemmings that don't really know anything. They've recently climbed down from the trees and are faced with resource scarcity for the first time ever. Thus, Capitalism does not already exist, it needs to be somehow created... If people want it to exist, that is.

I guess "resource scarcity" might be one prerequisite. If everything is abundant and easily available, there's no real need for trade, is there?

And I guess the idea of Capitalism and wanting Capitalism to exist might be other requirements. The humans might proclaim in Modern English: "hey, let's trade stuff!"


What other requirements are there, if any? And why might they be needed? Smiley

Property Rights
Rule of Law (it is hard to trade when it is easier to just rob or murder you)
Common Language (atleast for the trades)
Weights and Measures (helps determine price)
Demand for Trade


These are a few big ones to get it going.
1340  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Freedom is ... on: January 05, 2013, 09:01:09 PM
You're right, I don't understand your position. Are you arguing that they will not think (correctly) that their lives are in danger? Or that they will not hurt you to stop that danger? Or are you disputing that it's a bad idea?

Now [you're] trying to change what the discussion was about.  Pretty pathetic.   That will not work.

This scenario was about what was going on in the shooter's mind and that is all.   
If it was, this is the first indication of that fact.

It might be wise to re-quote the original post of the discussion:
It is not a victimless crime.  I could shoot a gun in public, randomly waving it about, and not hit a single person, but it's still a bad idea because the CHANCE of hurting another person was increased due to my actions.  The fact that I didn't actually hit anybody doesn't change anything.

You've got it all wrong. It's not a bad idea because you might hurt someone, it's a bad idea because others might think their lives are in danger and they'll hurt you to stop you. Same goes for speeding.

Seems like the only discussion about what was going on in anyone's mind is about those he's (potentially) shooting at. The shooter's mind isn't discussed at all. So, who is trying to change the topic of discussion?

I never said that and that was not the original discussion.  Maybe I need to quote it for you again because your lack of comprehension skill in context.  I have bolded what you preceded to defend in latter comments.

Hazek  - "It's not a bad idea because you might hurt someone (this is being spoken as the shooter), it's a bad idea because others might think their lives are in danger and they'll hurt you to stop you. "

Above comment was in response to:
  "I could shoot a gun in public, randomly waving it about, and not hit a single person, but it's still a bad idea because the CHANCE of hurting another person was increased due to my actions.  The fact that I didn't actually hit anybody doesn't change anything."
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