Didn't catch that, thanks.

What do you mean by:  with an intact block chain?  What does that mean and why don't the other coins have intact block chains?  And if the others do not, why or how did ixCoin keep its block chain intact. And what is the significance? 

I am actively accumulating ixCoin as much as I can.  I really believe in this coin long term as well as devcoin, so I'm trying to find out as much info about it (ixCoin) as possible.

Thanks.

@Nasakioto,

I have a few questions.

First of all, I don't get the big deal with pre-mining a paltry 560,000 coins, people are just hating on developers for wanting to make some money.

My questions are:

Is that your real name or is this another bitcoin screen name like Satoshi?  Doesn't matter but I'm curious.

Secondly, what made you come back?  I mean, the value is so low, why not just relaunch another coin like the guy from fairbrix and tenebrix who failed at both of those and then made it on a third attempt with litecoin.

It seems that would be easier than trying to resurrect this coin.  But I'm glad you're back cause I really think the smart money will look for a bitcoin look-alike (once Bitcoin gets an ETF license) and everything about ixCoin, even your name, spells Bitcoin 2.0 and unlike bitcoin, ixCoin will have more coins out there by next year and that's a plus cause it's more liquidity.

Basically, if the bitcoin ETF makes the winklevoss bros rich(er) then you can bet wallstreet will look to copy the ETF with a basket of alt coins or even another coin and it makes sense to try and sell one that has been around a long time and looks a lot like Bitcoin - and just like that, you have Bitcoin 2.0.

Finally, are you accumulating ixCoins right now?  I am, just wondering if you see value here worth accumulating Cause technically, ixCoin looks like it wants to go lower but I'm a buyer here and I also bought at $.012 and I'll keep buying even if it goes lower.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,

- Vlad.

So that means you'd get about 17 Giga hash if you'd mine bitcoin.  10 to 1 is the ratio I was getting with my tiny human computer.

4 bitcoins is not a lot to risk, a week of your rig working.  Fine, just buy 25,000 ixcoins.  I don't get anything out of it, I just feel so strongly its going up that I feel the need to tell people about it.

Either way, good luck with everything man.  Who knows, maybe BFL will come though.  With roughly $4,000 I bought about 80 giga hash from BFL, but the energy consumption is probably around 800 watts. 

But you're right, if bitcoin goes away those things are paper weight so its a big risk for $4,000.  But since I believe bitcoin is going much higher it was a no brainier for me but I've been wrong plenty of times before.

Good luck.

It trades on vircurex but yeah, it's a zombie coin.

I'm a man of science too man, you can't be an economist and not love math and science.  

But None of this makes sense. Bitcoin doesn't make sense.  These alt coins being allowed to function and undermine the dollar makes no sense.

Bitcoin getting its own ETF is going to shock the entire investment world and that makes zero sense.

There's much more than meets the eye here.  This is all being manipulated.  The banks, multinationals and especially the government have so much to gain from a global crypto currency.  They want the masses to love digital money and giving it away for free is the best way.  This is my biggest premise for thinking the ETF Is a done deal and there's going to be a bitcoin and alt coin madness very soon, latest next year.  

I know, my entire theory is based on a conspiracy theory, but nothing else makes any sense from a fundamental point of view.  Bitcoin should have crashed within days or weeks back down to near zero but instead if found stability at around $100.  That's just not possible.  

There's so much more going on here than anybody realizes and of that ETF gets approved - because there's no way it should, then its going to really confirm my theory.  We'll find out soon.

I can't stop staring at your rig.  I saved it on my ipad.  Crazy.  I wish I had money to build a quarter of that.  That's just crazy.

Dude, that's crazy.  Is that a giant GPU super computer.

Dude, I've never seen anything like that.  That's crazy.  That must eat what, 8,000 watts?  What giga hash are you getting (for bitcoin)?

You must have spent at least $25,000 building that.  And hey, if GPU's can't mine bitcoin you can't switch to litecoin.  Or sell the GPU's like you said.

Listen, buy yourself just 100,000 ixCoin.  That's gonna cost you just 4 bitcoins.  Just risk that much in case I'm right about this ETF and how it's gonna affect ixCoin.  With your super rig it would take a few years and thousands in electricity costs to mine 100,000 ixCoins.  ixCoin is a steal right now.  I hope you do it.

Congrats - timing and chance is everything and you had the vision and guts and cash to do it in a big way.  God bless you, man.

You're putting a lot of faith in a guy you don't know, or maybe you have a lot of confidence in your ideas.  I have neither. 

I'd rather try things out on my own but your formula for FAIL is spot on.  I can't learn to program in 3 months so them for me to change the formula to WIN I need to come up with the cash.  I'll do my best.

For now I'm accumulating devcoin and ixCoin.  For some reason I have a really strong feeling that one of those 2 will hit it really big.  They're both dirt cheap. Just $1,000 in either one can make you rich if I end up being right.  Not a lot to risk for such potential.  A lot of coins will probably go up a lot after Bitocin gets their ETF but some will go up a lot more than others.

IxCoin is a clone of bitcoin and its been around a while.  Imagine being a banker and seein the bitcoin ETF working out. There's gonna be massive copying of that ETF and ixCoin would be a perfect fit for another ETF.

ixCoin is a perfect risk on a play given Bitcoin gets its ETF AND I'm convinced they will. Devcoin is a more socio-political play. I'm investing in both as much as I can.

Well, you're presuming the price of bitcoin will stay at $100 or drop while difficulty will go to 100 million.

That's a possibility but I think based on the fact that I'm certain the ETF will get approved (and I seem to be alone on this) that bitcoin will skyrocket later this year and especially next year so now is the time to buy mining rigs cause if I'm right there's gonna be a 1 year wait. 

And I also think the ETF is gonna create a craze and push bitcoin past $1,000 by next year but of course that's crazy talk at this point.  But everything I know about investing tells me there's a high probability of that happening by next year.

If that happens then the mining rigs I bought will be worth their weight in gold, literally.

You have to take some educated risks if you're gonna make it big and that's what I'm doing.  I do realize this is a very high risk at this point as no human on earth thinks Bitcoin will hit $250 next year let alone $1,000.

Good luck.

No, not quite.  Gates used the office Jobs was lacking as a Trojan horse to gain his trust and it worked. Gates then got full access to apple's software and he store everything, mainly the interface which was years ahead of Microsoft.

A decade later when jobs came back, like in 1998 or so, softy invested like $300 million in apple for non-voting stock.  That wasn't just softy being nice, it was part of an anti trust suit against softy.  The government wanted to foster innovation and competition and it worked.

So no, my example was spot on.  Gates didn't give anything away, he got in with a lie and stole everything.

So you want me to give all my ideas to the founder of another coin?  Why would I do that?  It's like Gates saying, hey jobs, here's office for you computer Cause it's lacking that.

Sorry man, as much as I want to see a great coin launched and also a good charity coin, there's no way I'm just gonna give away anything I've got to make some other guy's coin better instead of focusing on trying to get mine off the ground.  I'm glad to see you're that trusting and giving but I'm not.

I want to see if I can get a coin launched and if I give any good ideas to another guy that's gone.  And I get a thanks and he gets rich.  That's too much for me.

@freedomno1,

What can I say.  Money makes the world go 'round and I've got none.

Sad to sit and watch this train go by.  I did buy some mining gear from BFL, maybe that will come next month and then maybe I can make something with that - enough to launch a righteous coin.

No, I don't think I have that one.

Just curious cause most coins had a website at launch.  It tells you that maybe its a pump and dump or maybe they're just broke.  Just odd to launch a coin and you're a programmer but you don't have at least a $2 website to promote your coin.

And he's been avoiding this question for 2 days now. Odd.

Here's the third try at this question.  The website for your coin is non existent.  Is there a reason or do you guys not own the domain.  Just curious.  Thanks.

I Simply don't have the money to launch a charity coin.  I'm not working a regular Job and I have 2 kids. I'm struggling.  That's what I meant. I thought if I had success with a for profit coin then i could easily launch a charity coin. 

I can't give to charity when I'm charity myself.  Tough spot to be in.

Well, programmers aren't cheap, right, I figure at least $30 per hour and from what I read you have to change a bit of code especially if you want to add some features so people don't call you a bum.  So $10,000 sounded about right as that only buys you a couple months work at most.

But if its that easy I'd love to at least launch OrphanCoin.  That's not for me, 100% charity so I don't care about features, since people will either buy it to help orphans worldwide or not.  My coin however, whatever it turns out to be, I need to have that done right and I don't have the money for that.

So who can help me launch OrphanCoin.  Pure charity coin.

Pools don't provide squat compared to devs.  People in general I think are just jealous.  You think most CEOs would make what they make if the masses were in charge of their salaries?  Even the CEOs that deserve their pay.

I think that's part of the problem here.  Most people can't stand the thought they're helping make some other guy rich.

It all depends on how much it costs to do these various things cause I'm low on money.

But I don't get offended easily.  And I look for criticism in any form I can get it to make myself and anything I do better.

But of course I want to make money doing this.  You think Jobs started making computers just for fun?  All huge success stories were in large part driven by potential profits.

But that's not the only thing I want. I want to release better coin but I don't know if I have the money for it and I want to release a coin which actually give back a lot to not just the miners and contributors who help make the coin the best but also to the community, the poor, orphans, etc.

I actually took out OrphanCoin.com, just for that reason.  If I have one good launch then my plan was to launch orphanCoin and give all the profits 100% to orphans worldwide.  The first pure charity coin.

But I first have to make money cause I can't launch a pure charity coin with no money.  I wish I could.

What?  What are you talking about?

I thought I needed at least $10,000 for a programmer to launch a coin for me? Free? What?

What a great idea.