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13301  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: November 23, 2016, 11:06:27 PM
For me is better always to reserve our money and save it for the future and i will keep my money away from gambling or investment i will do trading even i lose some bit because in trading you can wait till the price of the bitcoin or alternative  will increase again and this is good in trading you don't need to lose.
it would be better if you keep and grow the (investment) course with a good plan that you can become rich by that plan, save any income and leave little to increase investment,

Aiming for your investments to be rich will give you encouragement but that will also give you an headache when you are failing with your trades. I guess you just do it the usual way, just like sponsoredby said, he is saving for his future which is necessarily all of us must do and do some investments with trading and holding of bitcoin.
13302  Economy / Economics / Re: Currency v Property on: November 23, 2016, 11:01:14 PM
For me its both, buying bitcoin constantly and storing them as property and doing several payments or paying for hosting, topping up mobile, buying domain, scripts with bitcoin just like any other currency.

I prefer doing both as balance activity either. Buying bitcoin and treating it as my personal asset or property will make you feel better that you are owning something worth and valuable. And that's good also that we may enjoy the essence of bitcoin for being a currency for transacting online and conveniently just like the usual way you are buying something with fiat.
13303  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: November 23, 2016, 10:58:46 PM
If you are planing to quit trading do it while you are winning and earning. Maybe that sounds strange but otherwise all your efforts will be for nothing.
And you must know that loosing is also inevitable part of trading so don't that be the only reason to quit. But if you haven't found yourself in trading and you haven't got the feeling and pasion for it then is maybe better to stop.

That will not make a trader feel good if he will quit trading without getting back his losses for the trades that he has made. But I guess that is simply better if he will just quit if he thinks that trading is not really for him. Because it might let his fund pull into losing instead that it is safe to his bank account or vault.
13304  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 23, 2016, 10:43:18 PM
The most people that does use this forum, as well try get an income online hasnt several skills, those which has they sell their services, but the regular earner doesnt have those option, for us we can try and there is no easy way to achieve or get near those, for we be able to make such income we need to put our bitcoins at risk, can be trading, sports bets or forex, gambling inst a way atleast not for me, dice and slots games.

To get one Bitcoin a month wont actually be a problem for someone who already has like 30btc because I have seen someone wager as much as that in a gambling site so dont let us see 1 Btc as a mountain that cannot be achieved. I agree that it will be difficult to gather for some just coming into Bitcoin and want to earn it including me myself too. But its achievable with the right combinations as suggested by OP  above...

This will be difficult for those people who are aiming this amount but doesn't even have to offer or to start. And most of the people here are suggesting good thoughts for earning 1 - 2 bitcoins but this will be just impossible if you are not that willing and don't really want to work hard. You should not be wasting time and try investing into trading and reputable casino's already.
13305  Economy / Economics / Re: why the sudden increase of Forex topics in this board. on: November 23, 2016, 10:29:58 PM
Very simple: There's a guy that is trying to promote his paid forex trading service.

All forms of trading activity involve significant risk. People that want you to believe otherwise are either completely incompetent or trying to scam you. There is no easy way to generate big gains with Forex or Altcoin, especially not with basic knowledge of widely promoted indicators. Professional traders use highly sophisticated trading systems and have high-speed market access. And even those are not always winning.

In general it makes no sense to engage in trading. You can just buy and hodl Bitcoin instead. This way you can avoid stress and will still participate in Bitcoin gaining purchasing power without lifting a finger.

ya.ya.yo!

Yeah this is the main reason why there are forex topics that are coming from nowhere to simply promote his paid service. They are claiming that they are professional traders and they are noting that they are not giving assurance that your money will grow by just simply using their service. Yes, holding bitcoin is better than getting engage in forex for a lot of forex scheme investments are just coming out and doesn't want to help people but wants to scam them.
13306  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if POKEMON GO let people earn Bitcoin? on: November 23, 2016, 10:16:12 PM
The real question is who is going to create an app for bitcoin earning with the same popularity? This person will make a ton and bitcoin prices would probably skyrocket! So who is working on something like this?

We may know who are the company who are interested for creating a money paying app such as pokemon go. And that will be needed to be created the way it is and for sure many will able to play it. Instead of running for the pokemon they will just playing it for the sake of the bitcoins that they may get for playing that game.
13307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: November 22, 2016, 11:49:55 PM
My aim is to make $2000 within my first year of gambling. So far I've made roughly 1200, so I think the other 800 dollars is doable in 6 months.

$2000 is not big goal to achieve but only with gambling that looking very strange as you claimed you already got $1200 as pure profit in 6 months than it looking very possible for you, I think the important thing in gambling we always stay under the some limit never get greedy to achieve goal in a day, but in long term gambling ending with get busted so you must keep this in mind before keep you playing.
It depends if he started with 20 dollars then making 2000 is in fact great profit in terms of percentage if in the other hand he had 10K as capital then that is not really a lot of earnings taking into account how risky is to play casino games and to come on top of the casino.

For me, $2,000 is already a big goal to achieve for the whole year. But within my expectation I don't usually aim big amount as I gamble. My aim is just to get myself entertained as I gamble and whatever it takes or if I do experience some winnings and returns. Then that is just going to be fine with me.
13308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tell us How You bet On Dice on: November 22, 2016, 11:41:53 PM
i can't believe that the 9900x has the most votes so far!

i used to test that multiplier with small amounts i got from faucets for a while. and i have to say this method of gambling needs a very huge amount of luck if you want to get anywhere and since luck usually doesn't happen in these kinds of situation, that multiplier is a waste of time and a big reason for getting disappointed in gambling.

Same here , i also can't believe that 9900x has been voted the most.
I think they use that 9900x to keep them into the game for long and might avoid them from making the mistake of doing max balance bet.

That's a very hard type of multiplier and I don't usually use that 9900x as I gamble. Most of the time I am just using 2x-100x but sometimes if I wanted to play yolo, I tried 9900x but it seems that it is just for the very few chosen people who are very lucky. So, that will just lose my money easily if I will use that multiplier.
13309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: November 22, 2016, 11:35:00 PM
Gambling is not at all a sin, because we won't be stealing or involving into some hacking tricks to acquire someone's money. We are just risking our own hard earnings to make an earning. For this reason I believe gambling is not sin, but when a user without having a job and completely depend on gambling and losses all his wealth then sure gambling is a sin.
It's not really a sin because gambling is just a game which really built for entertaintment and you are right we risk our money to earn money and that's we usually do when we are gambling. It's not illegal though the time time it would be a sin when you already commit bad moves which compromises yourself and your family.


That is a sin for some religious people with their belief. But for me, it is a game that falls into sinning. Because if you are not able to control yourself and you are going to get addicted with it. Then that will make you commit a sin, once you are already addicted. Then that will make you a very greedy person and you won't think about other things but winning.
13310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: November 22, 2016, 11:26:14 PM
If you ask me on how to win  gambling  without  lose? Then you must not play gambling at all and thats the thing you would not suffer any losses because in gambling lose is just a normal thing and if you dont want to lose then dont  bother to play. Playing gambling without lose is just like a dream because it wont happen in real world if  thats the case there would be no gambling site or online/offline casinos.
Yeah, one can win without losing in dreams only lol. in reality winning without losing can be possible only if you cheat/exploit a gambling site.

That's the only way that a gambler will win in gambling without losing if you will abuse and cheat on the site. But it seems that gambling sites are going to detect if someone is cheating on them and there is no way in real gambling that you will win in gambling without losing. Or yes, that's the best thing to do, just totally don't gamble.
13311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recommend a Bitcoin Sports Gambling Site. on: November 22, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Directbet.eu I'm betting on that site it is anonymous and no account required to place bet. I like to choose during inplay than it is my choice.

This is my choice for sports betting too. And there are still another choice for me, that's nitrogensports because I'm into e-sports betting. I just like their feature also for creating anonymous account. That is just base on my experience too and I guess if there are new some other sites that I will try soon, maybe directbet.
13312  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: November 22, 2016, 11:05:59 PM
Maybe we can apply the saying, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket." in here. Invest some of your bitcoins in the hot altcoins and then keep an eye on the market of that coin. I don't recommend investing in cloud mining sites for obvious reasons but if you really do want to do mining, then I suggest that you buy your own mining rig. You can also invest in new gambling sites and startup projects.
I think it's not a problem to keep all your money in bitcoin, I believe that bitcoin has a great future, and while I still have the capital so that I do is invest into bitcoin, and in fact I was always profit

Even if you are sure that bitcoin will have a very high price in the future, it is not advisable to put it all on bitcoin. It is better to invest on other investment platforms too or other coins that has a very good value. So if ever bad things happen to bitcoin, you do not lose everything and your other investments will save your finances.

It is better to put no more than 20% of your wealth in bitcoin now. But in a few years, that will increase to 90%.

I guess that amount is quite good and acceptable if you will invest 20% of your total wealth for bitcoins. For many did already shift for real in bitcoin and able to invest thousands of dollars came from their own bank accounts.  But in my situation, I'm just able to invest 1-5% of my total wealth because there are some issues that I do need to focus to.
13313  Economy / Economics / Re: We need decentralisation and we need it now. on: November 22, 2016, 10:54:47 PM
I don't even think that some other projects or alt coins will replace bitcoin. And for the decentralization idea, it came all from bitcoin. Why not just stay in bitcoin and just use those alt coins for trading or if you want to you can also hold it if you believe they will be as the same as bitcoin. For bitcoin is not even on your choice.
13314  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: November 22, 2016, 10:48:55 PM

Try to explain them about bitcoins maybe they will understand, even if they are haters but it's wrong to say that bitcoin is dead when their real basis is not specified, the value of bitcoin now which is increasing already prove that this coin is existing.
haters will always be hater,i think those hater have had learnt bitcoin so explaining to those will be useless effort you spent on. better don't give a shit to them and keeping up with bitcoin. and as long the market is running and always having bidding list.nothing to worry about

All the things we do will certainly give something a good thing if it does have a good thinking, as well as to those who do something black campaign. For sure they think is something they had never thought very well or could be said all the information they get from something that is from the beginning of their hate will definitely be in the sport the wrong way so that the result they get is very bad

We can't blame them if that is their way of thinking. They are close minded people and let's just don't mind them because they are just jealous of what bitcoin is experiencing now. Millions of users, hundred dollar value and close to thousand dollar. Of course its competitors will make something bad to make bitcoins reputation destroy by simply creating those false assumptions.
13315  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: November 22, 2016, 10:41:23 PM
They are waiting for the right time to sell thier bitcoins..10 years would the minimum to store it  on a cold wallet and max of 20 years.
Maybe some day 1 btc is equal to  a sportscar.
Yeah thats good idea in investing and strategy to make someone rich but you must have a patient to get this method work.

In bitcoin investment, what you need is just the patience. If you hold long enough, you will be very rich.

I guess this is already proven by those early adopters of bitcoin and people who pioneering bought a lot of bitcoins. They just believed that this is a good project and have to take in their mind that if they are going to hold it for a long time they will benefit from it. So, they are not wrong for it that they not sold all of them bitcoins, maybe they just for some but still they have remained a lot of it. And that's why most of them are already rich and just enjoying their profit from bitcoin.
13316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Storing of Bitcoins is against Bitcoin. on: November 22, 2016, 10:28:33 PM
I don't have a reason to sell all my bitcoins mined long time ago, I don't want to be rich.
I just believe in this project Smiley.
Im not saying to sell all your bitcoins, just a part of them, im surprised you dont wanna to be rich, soo you still with a lot of bitcoins, or had, looks like you had sold your coins and then bitcoin jumped a lot and you miss the opportunity. Makes no sense for me you be able to get rich with bitcoin and just ignore those because you dont wanna to be rich, or you already are rich.

I don't need a lot of money to live, so I don't need to be rich.


"Money is numbers and numbers never end, if it takes money to be happy, your search for happiness will never end." Rober Nesta Marley

I know that quotation, but in reality we can't deny that money is what we want in able to be alive. But for happiness, that's true that sometimes it is not the money that will give us happiness. Instead just use the stored bitcoins that you have for the things that you need. Even though you don't need to be rich but you need to survive.
13317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many Millions of People Use Bitcoin? on: November 22, 2016, 10:21:21 PM
    There so many theories like this http://www.coindesk.com/2016-bitcoin-challenge-100-million-users/ about  the number of bitcoin users on a global scale, but we need to see in principle how many people have internet. Today, only 40% of world population according to http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/ are online. Moreover,  we must take under consideration that economic events in countries with large population, like as India’s withdrawal Rs 500 and Rs 1000 banknotes, has a positive influence in bitcoin usage.

So base on the theory, it says on the last paragraph "According to publicly available data, there are now over 10 million bitcoin wallets."
But it doesn't mean that there are 10 million individual who are already using bitcoins. Since it is just a free service to make a new one, many people have different wallet addresses for different purposes. Let's assume that per user has 5-10 wallets, so maybe we are already 1 million and counting for each day.
13318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: November 22, 2016, 10:11:41 PM
If China does not have "control" they will soon. There is too many of them and they are smarter than lazy people form the USA. Just callin it like I see it.

I know that attitude of them but in reality they will not have a chance to control it. But instead they will have a chance of making some part for manipulating the price of bitcoin and as well as the quantity of it because they have the majority of the miners and I think many of them are hoarders and whales too.
13319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: November 22, 2016, 10:05:36 PM
I would suggest goo to do trading and I think there is no better option than that. Because its almost riskless and you can of your own you don't have to fear of losing money on scam because here you are the owner and management.
I agree with you, but before you do trading you must know that does it well or else you can lose your bitcoin, there are many tutorials out there in youtube, google and here.
you both make it sound like there is no way you can lose with trading. but if someone wins money someone else has to lose it and the exchange/broker takes also a cut, so it is more likely to lose money then to make it. 

It is one of the best investment if you are going to trade to make good amount of bitcoins. But if you are just a starter or newbie, just trade to the trusted websites and just buy the alt coins that is familiar to you. And just completely forget those scam sites that promises high returns, don't get easily fall down into their sweet words.
13320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So, why do we need to use Bitcoin? on: November 22, 2016, 09:59:42 PM
Using bitcoin and bitcoin wallets is much safer than using regular online bank accounts that always take half your money on transfer and they sometimes get hacked plus using bitcoin is much more productive than using regular money u actually feel your hard work growing more and more and bitcoin is worth more so use it to get rich

Don't just use bitcoin because you wanted to become rich. But I say, use bitcoin because it has a really great platform and services. Just like the fast confirmation of transaction and by just putting small fees. And for the convenience it gives an individual is going to love using it. You don't have to bring cash instead you will just use bitcoin.
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