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1341  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI]Altcoin Kategori Layer 1 & 2(Berpotensi tinggikah?) on: March 19, 2023, 12:03:03 AM
Soalnya saya baru sadar bahwa altcoin kategori layer 1 dan 2 bahkan ada yang memang cocok dijadikan investasi jangka panjang. Berbeda dengan kategori games dan metaverse yang hanya bisa dijadikan untuk investasi jangka sedang saja. Soalnya harganya selalu merosot.
Tidak ada altcoin yang belum teruji selain ETH sejauh ini. jadi kalau mau dijadikan investasi jangka panjang, ente musti pikirkan 10x dulu. Karena dari pengalaman ane main altcoin, dulu ada yang namanya nxt yang katanya cocok untuk investasi jangka panjang, namun sampai hari ini tidak penah balik ke ATH.

atau ente list saja dulu token apa saja yang ATH periode lalu lalu menyentuhnya lagi saat ini?, jadi kalau mau invest jangka panjang, baiknya diukur dulu, kalau tidak pernah balik ke ATH tentu tidak cocok dijadikan investasi jangka panjang, dari pada jadi abu.
1342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 18, 2023, 05:17:03 AM


Lille is trying to raise on Europa league zone after draw on the last 2 matches, while Toulouse even is not good on the last 3 matches and always lose, but they try to raise on a middle stand and won versus Anger on anger's home which I think Lille must not underestimate them and must fight strunggle for this match, I would bet to draw when I look in h2h.
1343  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: March 18, 2023, 03:50:21 AM
pernah diposisi itu (bounty jadi pekerjaan utama) karena waktu itu ane masih kuliah dan cari pekerjaan dengan jam kerja yang cocok sangat sulit. dan alhamdulillah sih waktu itu (2017) bisa bantu bayar kuliah dan keperluan lain, tapi itu di tahun 2017 loh yaaa dimana waktu itu hasil bounty dan airdrop masih lancar jaya  Grin kalau untuk saat ini sih mau gak mau harus punya sumber penghasilan lain   Undecided
kalau mengingat memori lama itu sangat menyenangkan dimana gaji main bounty dan airdrop bisa sampe puluhan juta, tapi kita mestinya ndak perlu mengingat itu lagi karena bisa membuat malas ngerjain proyek lain yang bayarannya cuma ratusan ribu perak/bulan. Ane bahkan coba ke psikiater untuk bertanya bagaimana melupakan masa-masa indah di waktu lalu supaya tidak mengendorkan semangat hidup.
1344  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI]Altcoin Kategori Layer 1 & 2(Berpotensi tinggikah?) on: March 18, 2023, 02:34:34 AM
Ane belum paham dari mana ente mengelompokan coin layer 1 dan 2 di atas?
Assets yang di list oleh @Uruhara diatas memang sudah pas, om @blue Snow bisa langsung cross-check untuk mengetahuinya lebih dalam.
Karena tidak ada pengertian mendalam pada thread, makanya ane tanya begitu. karena list coin tersebut ujug-ujug muncul, tanpa ada artian lebih dalam. lagian, Ane di sini bukan berkapasitas untuk men-dumping list token-token tersebut, cuma bertanya doang.



btw, mengenai pengertian ini :

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Berbeda dengan Layer 1, Layer 2 adalah jaringan yang melapisi blockchain itu sendiri. Dan Layer 2 ini dibuat memang sebagai salah satu solusi untuk meringankan beban di jaringan blockchain utama. Sebagai gambaran nya adalah seperti di jaringan bitcoin itu sendiri seperti Layer 1 = jaringan Bitcoin dan Layer 2 = jaringan Lightning. Atau perumpamaannya adalah Layer 1 ibarat Manager disebuah perusahaan dengan tugas yang menumpuk. Dan Layer 2 adalah bawahan dari Manager tersebut. Sehingga Manager nanti akan menunjuk ke Bawahan untuk mengambil beberapa tugas yang menumpuk dan si bawahan nanti akan mengerjakan dan akan kembali menyerahkan hasil final dari tugas yang telah diselesaikan tersebut kepada sang Manager. Sehingga tugas sang Manager menjadi lebih ringan dengan mempunyai bawahan

Apakah ente benar yakin perumpamaannya?, karena kalau mau didalami hal tersebut, tentu jauh berbeda dengan apa yang terjadi, LN jelas bukan jaringan utama btc sehingga kalau mau diumpakan manajer, tentu perumpaan tersebut sangat jauh melenceng, karena blockchain utamanya sendiri menurut ane berbeda alias tidak terikat satu sama lain.
1345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 18, 2023, 12:18:00 AM


Brentford vs Leicester City is an interesting match, because so far Leicester city is trying to avoid the degradation zone and try to raise a moment to not lose again. So when we look at the odds, Brentford is the favorite, yes sure, I don't doubt they will win at least 2 goals. but what makes me worry is, Leicester city is maybe fighting a struggle to just try to raise its position. Draw is possible, but Leicester lost is almost possible.
1346  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: March 17, 2023, 07:39:38 AM
Oleh karena itu kita jangan mengharapkan begitu besar terhadap hasil dari bounty, karena setahu ane, bounty itu pekerjaan sampingan dari pekerjaan utama yang sewaktu-waktu akan berakhir. Ane juga tidak begitu mengharapkan, ada syukur, gak juga tdk apa2 karena siapa tau walau katanya bounty itu jangka panjang, tdk tahunya berakhir besok.
Betul. Memang bounty itu selayaknya cukup dijadikan pekerjaan sampingan saja walaupun mungkin bisa menghasilkan lebih banyak uang daripada pekerjaan utama saat ini. Tetap prioritaskan pekerjaan di RL karena tidak ada yang bisa menjamin bounty/sigcamp ini bisa ada selamanya di forum ini, bisa saja sudah tidak worth atau dihapuskan sewaktu-waktu. Meskipun kemungkinannya terlihat kecil sekarang tapi tidak ada yang tau ke depannya seperti apa. BTW menurut saya tidak ada istilahnya bounty/sigcamp jangka panjang karena tidak ada yang bisa menjamin berapa lama bounty/sigcamp itu bisa bertahan ke depannya.
Ya, ndak usah jauh2 kemaren sig camp jangka panjang chipmixer yg kalau ane pikir2 gak mungkin bakal tutup secepat ini karena manajemen keuangan mereka itu kayaknya unlimited, akan tetapi permasalahannya bukan di situ ternyata, uang bukan segalanya untuk menjamin sebuah sig camp itu bakal panjang, tetapi hal lain yg tidak kita duga2 misalnya aparat.
1347  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Cuan Besar dari Shitcoin on: March 17, 2023, 05:38:30 AM
Saya memiliki beberapa Shitcoin yang saya beli, tapi ini berbeda nasib dengan Vitalik Grin. Beberapa Shitcoin saya malah tidak berharga saat ini. Tidak menyesal karena memang dari awalnya saya mencoba membeli. Walapun melalui analisis tapi beberapa Shitcoin ini malah menjadi sampah. Untuk Airdrop memang ada beberapa yang memiliki harga saat ini, tapi itu tidak sebanding dengan biaya gas jadi saya diamkan saja. Entah sebenarnya Airdrop dari mana, karena saya tidak pernah join airdrop.
Memang ketika saya mulai trading, pada tahun 2016 itu banyak airdrop dan banyak juga yang beruntung karena mendapat keuntungan besar dari airdrop itu. Tapi untuk saat ini sepertinya sulit. Jadi sepertinya saat cukup sulit mendapat shitcoin atau Airdrop yang bisa memberikan janji keuntungan dan mungkin yang bisa mendapat itu (untung dari shitcoin) adalah faktor keberuntungan juga.  Walapun kadang ada juga perbedaan pendapat mengenai pengertian Shitcoin.
Kita ini pemain kelas teri beda dengan vitalik yg eth-nya unlimited, jadi disamping dia dapat airdrop dia juga bisa beli dengan menukar eth miliknya jadi kita tidak heran kalau dia punya shitcoin untung tidak untung pun dia biasa saja, sedangkan kita walau mati2an pun pakai analisa chart segala macam tetap apes
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 17, 2023, 04:51:37 AM
Napoli have earned themselves a position in the league, it seems they have secured the trophy already. With the current form at which they are going, it will be difficult for any other team in the Seria A to overtake them in the race as they have maintained consistency this season. No doubts Napoli are top favorites to win the trophy this season.
Yes for sure napoli will lock their 1st position with 13 points different from inter but sometime in the end of league anything change can happen like injury player or anything kind of problem. Because Napoli not only focus on serie a but champions league where need much coordination between players.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Conference League 2022/23 Season on: March 17, 2023, 03:42:26 AM
Roma is able to Next round after hold sociedad 0-0 on their home. Sociedad lost agregat 0-2 where make them lost the chance as host. Roma appeared quite impressive along the match, dybala and team almost create a score on 1st half but the situation change on 2nd half, the host look impresive to gibe the presure but still Not able to create a score because the roma defense is solid.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: March 17, 2023, 02:20:28 AM
Arsenal against Porto is definitely worth watching although admittedly they must now accept the fact that they have to be knocked out in the last 16 now.
Penalties are clearly a matter of mentality and in this match Gabriel Martineli failed to carry out his role which knocked Arsenal out.
Even so, it can't be blamed either because it's also very difficult for the task of kicking.
The bright side is that they can focus more in the EPL now.
Arsenal not face porto but sporting lisbon. I bit surpise they lost chance on europa league because when we look their performance on premier league is look imposible for the squad to not win versus club where in fact their performance under from them, but we can ignore Lisbon mentally is great than arsenal because they enough experienced on europa than arsenal.
1351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 17, 2023, 01:19:42 AM
After losing out from the Europa league tonight,Arsenal should make sure that they take all their matches serious by winning the matches so that they will be able to win this trophy this season as its been awhile since they won it. I see that crystal palace is not strong enough to play Arsenal and this becomes an advantage for the gunners to win the match easily and get their three point this weekend. EPL is the only league that is widely open for Arsenal to win and if they miss this opportunity, then they have messed up their season. Crystal Palace shouldn't be looked down on,since they also need a win in other to motivate their fans.
After lost versus lisbon, arsenal seem only focus on premier league. And, In the next match versus crystal i believe arsenal will reverse their lost in europa and will get 3 points to make different points away from Manchester city. Arsenal look have good capital and mentally after beat 3-0 on fulham, with this situation and performance i believe they will
Able to create points and score tonight.
1352  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 17, 2023, 12:05:48 AM

Since Pep Guardiola extended his contract with Manchester City, this will be even harder for Haaland to leave this team even if he wants to leave, currently, Haaland is in a good situation in Manchester City, they're racing in the premier league and champions league in the same time and Haalnad salary is not low, so there is no reason for him to leave however after Guardiola changed the situation for Haaland I think the teams like PSG can be disappointed and there is no chance for them.
Yes probaly haaland wouldn't leave, but we don't know in the next summer, everything change can happen if manchester city don't be able to get premier and champions league thropy. Because this is football Industry where a club like manchester city must get a benedit for each situation.
1353  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Layer 2 bitcoin on: March 16, 2023, 09:56:55 AM
Seminggu lalu saya investasi di stakcs yg katanya layer 2 bitcoin. Dan sekarang hasil nya memuaskan karena harga naik tajam. Kayak nya sekrang uda ada narasi tentang layer 2 bitcoin, kira kira ada yang tau selain stack layer 2 bitcoin?
Sepanjang yg ane tahu, lighting network termasuk juga kedalam layer 2 bitcoin, namun banyak yg menyebutnya bukan altcoin, karena nyatanya memang bukan. Menurut ane sih mau itu layer 1,2,3 dan dst kalau sekiranya profit lanjut aja, yg penting gak ngerugikan kamu dan orang lain saja menurut ane cukup.
1354  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Altcoin kategori AI & Big data (Akankah populer di th 2023?) on: March 16, 2023, 06:40:15 AM
Tapi kemudian ada tweetnya lagi yang masih ada kaitannya dengan AI tapi yang ini ane tidak faham maksudnya

Sumber: Tweet Elon

Kalau ane melihatnya sih mungkin menurut elon AI akan segera menyusul yg lain alias tidak berkembang lagi. Karena ketiga hal tersebut sudah ada yg baru seperti internet 2, netflix, dsb. Sekarang juga ane merasa AI dan sejenisnya juga tidak ngetren lagi karena token sekarang lagi hype yg namanya layer 2 dsb. Tapi itu juga jgn dijadikan patokan FUD lalu ngejual token AI, karena biasanya elon itu asal nyebut aja dicocok logikan dengan hal lain
1355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: March 16, 2023, 05:01:09 AM
PSG are just getting close to announcing their championship in the league every week. The gap with Marseille has become 10 points already.

I don't see any way Marseille are catching up with them from now on. Because they aren't even consistent these days. After losing to PSG home this time they got a draw against Strasbourg home. Balerdi's incident just finished them. Strasbourg aren't even one of the decent teams in the league this season. They are trying to hold onto the Ligue 1 not to relegate. Marseille need to play more carefully in such games to finish them without point loss.
there may be improvement when meet reims, like you said, marseille aren't consistent on every match, sometime playing well but sometimes playing bad even they play in home. I just heard a coach just change a strategy to face reims, i don't know exactly, maybe they can get 3 points to reduce different point with PSG.
1356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: March 16, 2023, 04:00:06 AM
I know there is a rumor about those 3 superstars possibly leaving PSG. But as far as I know, there are no clear statements from those players. CMIIW

Neymar often got injured problems and he has a bad relationship with Mbappe. Mbappe is often rumored to have bad relationships among PSG players. So, it is not surprising if PSG finally decides to put them on the transfer list. But I see no reason for PSG management to sell Messi, he is a good player and has no bad issues there. If Messi leaves, it may be his own decision or it is about the salary.
I heard about haaland who can replace them but it's still rumors. PSG have plan about 200 million euro to recruit haaland from manchester city. PSG is seem disampointed peformance neymar and messi is still not good on champions league even habe expereince on that league, so if any deal on next summer, it's not impossible haaland go to paris.
1357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 16, 2023, 02:43:46 AM
Lol I see it coming that Hamburg once again manages to waste a decent season towards the end now. The coach going nuts and now not being able to coach his team is bad, but I wouldn't overestimate the effect of a coach during a game. They still have their co-coaches and can give instructions all the time via mobile phone. Hamburg's players should be well prepared mentally. It is not too much about strategy at this point during the season. Usually they know what to do and they know how to turn their strategic game plan into reality. Hamburg has been struggling a lot with their mental strength every time when it came down to concentration and precision. They are starting to make mistakes again now. They have everything the need. Money, fans, a bit stadium and so on and so forth, and yet they can't get promoted back into the 1. Bundesliga.

Yes, the discussions are certainly starting again now and the players and the people in charge at Hamburg are certainly panicking a little bit again. I think that in the last few years Hamburger SV has always lost games around the same time and these points were missing at the end.
But in my opinion, this year it is a different team than before. They are more concentrated and do not get nervous when the other team is leading. So I do not see the defeat so dramatically. But they still have to win against Kiel.
When we talk about divisi 2 i really sure we can't prediction much and exactly how the result is because there is many surprise we can see for the clun who play on that division. So far hamburg always good whne play at home but got bad result when play away and always got draw. Maybe when meet kiel is not far way, they will win at lears 1 different goal.
1358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 16, 2023, 01:24:28 AM
Milan are a big disappointment in the Serie A this season but at least they are doing something in the Champions League. They have reached the quarter finals by eliminating Tottenham you know. However they should still focus on the Serie A as much as possible. Because while they are concentrating on the Champions League mostly they can lose their position in top four in the Serie A on one hand. This wouldn't be ideal at all for them. If they can't qualify for the Champions League it would be difficult for them to hold some stars in the team this summer.

For example skilled players like Leao and Theo Hernandez might be even more likely to leave in that case.
It is true that Milan's performance has been very poor so far in Serie A and has seemed to lack consistency to achieve maximum results in every match. But I think they can still make up for that by doing quite well in the champions league. For some players who will leave Milan, that possibility could happen because of course there will be a feeling of disappointment or dissatisfaction when Milan don't get good results and either Leao or Theo I think there will be clubs who will start to be interested in signing him next summer.
When we look at past, i really sure many ex milan player are very dissapointed about the peformance team, but they must look the financial situation. Milan don't have enough financial to buy expensive players so that case, they only able to recruit standar player who can enough to replace a weak position like giroud and others. And i just optimism on champions league because they always have mentally for that event.
1359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: March 16, 2023, 12:04:29 AM
At Anfield they were losing 2 nil before the comeback that left Liverpool needing three unreplied goals tonight to force an extra time and tonight they knew that they only needed to defend their three goal advantage and their plan was perfectly executed
Liverpool has hard mission when come to madrid, they face to pressure to must win at least 3 different goal in order to next round champions league so that burden, they play unrelax and always create the mistake when the squad get the ball. Beside the pressure, liverpool peformance is not good also on this session because of that many prediction they not able to next round.
1360  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: March 15, 2023, 09:40:40 AM
iya gan, mustahil untuk pengembang pengembang proyek baru bakal membayar dengan nilai fantastis segitu lagi, namun unutk sekarang ini pendpaatan melalui sig camp masih worth it lah untuk bantu bantu bertahan hidup LOL
Banyak yang mengharapkan kejayaan Bounty masa itu kembali terulang, saya pernah mendengarnya ada yang mendapat hasil fantastis dari Bounty tetapi saya tidak sempat ambil bagian saat itu.
Masa itu menjadi cerita indah untuk bounty hunter, sekarang kondisinya berubah 180%. Bounty Hunter lebih banyak beralih ke signature bayaran BTC akibat sulitnya menemukan bounty yang bisa menghasilkan seperti dulu.
Oleh karena itu kita jangan mengharapkan begitu besar terhadap hasil dari bounty, karena setahu ane, bounty itu pekerjaan sampingan dari pekerjaan utama yang sewaktu-waktu akan berakhir. Ane juga tidak begitu mengharapkan, ada syukur, gak juga tdk apa2 karena siapa tau walau katanya bounty itu jangka panjang, tdk tahunya berakhir besok.
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