yes, someone is presumably selling 18 k of coins for 4 million. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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they dont need to buy anything, they got more than enough in cold storage to honour all missing coins.
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so they sent the funds to cold storage. And there is no issue I am hoping. the question here is whose cold storage is that. They stopped with deposits 3h before last transaction... doesnt mean anything really, because someone could have sent his coins to the stamp's hacked hot wallet addresses. in fact, I will send 1 satoshie to my old stamp address right about now just for fun. To tarmi : Some new transactions can be seen on the "Hack" address. Could you see if some of these satoshis come from your address? aaand its gone. my satoshis are gone. confirmed.
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Major bitcoin exchange suspended after price plunge http://www.cnbc.com/id/102309754"Some, however, are not buying this explanation. "Don't believe Bitstamp. It's a matter of liquidity," Jeffrey Robinson, author "BitCon: The Naked Truth about Bitcoin" wrote to CNBC. "Who's next? It's as if Bitstamp realized they couldn't internalize the risk anymore so just decided, Let's suspend operations until everything settles down." ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) go bears.
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so they sent the funds to cold storage. And there is no issue I am hoping. the question here is whose cold storage is that. They stopped with deposits 3h before last transaction... doesnt mean anything really, because someone could have sent his coins to the stamp's hacked hot wallet addresses. in fact, I will send 1 satoshie to my old stamp address right about now just for fun. To tarmi : Some new transactions can be seen on the "Hack" address. Could you see if some of these satoshis come from your address? no. Everything sent to that address since this morning is dust, apart from a 0.79556526 BTC deposit an hour and a half ago. Why would someone send 0.79556526 BTC there? nobody did deposit directly to that address. my guess is that someone did not read the notification and sent 0.79 btc to his old bitstamp address. That would suggest Bitstamp's system must be partially running, and it has not been given a new hot wallet address to use. I would have expected Bitstamp to update it's system to use a new hot wallet address if it had lost control of it's old one. if they lost control of the old wallet that doesnt mean that old addresses arent valid. they are, but I assume they are compromised.
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If they open for trading but there's suspicion they're no longer fully solvent, withdrawing BTC will be the fastest exit. BitstampBTC may therefore trade higher than other market's BTC IOUs.
What if the hacker sells the 18k BTC on Bitstamp? (if they're stolen) that would be stupid thing to do, dont you think? better to offload coins in a distant land like China.
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so they sent the funds to cold storage. And there is no issue I am hoping. the question here is whose cold storage is that. They stopped with deposits 3h before last transaction... doesnt mean anything really, because someone could have sent his coins to the stamp's hacked hot wallet addresses. in fact, I will send 1 satoshie to my old stamp address right about now just for fun. To tarmi : Some new transactions can be seen on the "Hack" address. Could you see if some of these satoshis come from your address? no.
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Is crypto done?? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Yes. What will you do now? move to ripple, ofc.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsYzyHUI.png&t=663&c=KFuKmyubONAQKw) "the bulk" meaning some coins are indeed missing. so it is confirmed. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 0.1 btc fee is huge for any transaction. also, I noticed that only addresses who had bitcoins deposited in the last 24 h are on the list. so I guess those addresses were compromised.
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no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h. Maybe a typo then or just generosity, either way it says nothing about who the wallet's owner is. well, we do know that stamp uses standard fees 0.0001 when moving coins. here we have some transactions with 0.55, 1 BTC, 0.1 BTC fees. You can't use standard fees when moving that many coins from that many addresses in one go Gonna take too much time to confirm not true. the fees have nothing to do with the number of coins.
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no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h. Maybe a typo then or just generosity, either way it says nothing about who the wallet's owner is. well, we do know that stamp uses standard fees 0.0001 when moving coins. here we have some transactions with 0.55, 1 BTC, 0.1 BTC fees.
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That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack huge and non standard miner fees That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach. So there's two possibilities: 1) Bitstamp are being stupid 2) Bitstamp were hacked by someone stupid Well, that's encouraging. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well people generally act stupid in a state of panic. A wallet breach sure must have sent Stamp owners' heart rates to new all time highs. no panic dude, that address was collecting bitcoins from compromised bitstamp addresses for 24 h.
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That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack huge and non standard miner fees That's not proof. Stamp could have set high fees also to move those coins as quickly as possible after they discovered the breach. no. coins will not move any faster if you put 1 btc fee. someone was generous with the fees.
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That 18k BTC wallet could also be Bitstamp moving coins around or to safety, where's the proof those coins are in the hands of the supposed hacker?
timestamps of the transactions match perfectly with the attack huge and non standard miner fees
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Bitstamp is big and profiting for years. They can survive some million loss without collapsing like Gox Could be stamp moving coins to safety, not sure yet if these coins are stamps and/or stolen. no. they would use standard miner fees for moving their coins to safety, not 1 btc fees.
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they are not millions yet. someone needs to cash them out. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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ok, I am now positive that 18 k of coins were stolen.
I am cool with that, cause I went full fiat long time ago.
stamp wont be the next gox, not until fiat withdrawals are working.
and good luck bulls! you are gonna need it.
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Customer deposits made prior to January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC are fully covered by Bitstamp’s reserves.
This corresponds well with timestamp of last transactions for 18k address, so this seems to be Bitstamp cold storage. no it doesnt. 2 more transactions after that. So transactions sent in block 337581 (up to 9:00:15) could only have been received by 10:11:44 no. it doesnt work like that. that transaction was included in block 337588. ... also I noticed random miner fees included with transactions. some transactions got random 0.1~0.5 btc fees, another one 1 btc! https://blockchain.info/tx/07a78d55fc17a2809e031116e71ac63faa6c2ea9e29480b4fa59031683b506b8someone was in a hurry. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Customer deposits made prior to January 5th, 2015 9:00 UTC are fully covered by Bitstamp’s reserves.
This corresponds well with timestamp of last transactions for 18k address, so this seems to be Bitstamp cold storage. no it doesnt. 2 more transactions after that.
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so they sent the funds to cold storage. And there is no issue I am hoping. the question here is whose cold storage is that. They stopped with deposits 3h before last transaction... doesnt mean anything really, because someone could have sent his coins to the stamp's hacked hot wallet addresses. in fact, I will send 1 satoshie to my old stamp address right about now just for fun.
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