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13601  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 11, 2019, 02:31:39 AM
For that matter, maybe I need to start deleting more of the "Fuck You" and trolling posts. We can't have Fatman flooding the mods with reports  Roll Eyes

You're a mod, smartass. And you know that's not the case.

You think infofront is a mod? That's rich.

 He obviously doesn't care enough to read the thread before posting which is why he is consistently wrong about the thread and the members who frequent it.

A typical BIG blocker (or ex BIG blocker) and/or prolonged bitcoin naysayer who just makes a bunch of shit up and hopes that something will have some kind of resonance.
13602  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 03:10:42 PM
The BTC price is holding at a steady $8,400 range. With the release of bakkt we should be seeing 10k within a week or 2. I believe another bull run is coming. I would only sell partial bags and hold the rest long term.  Remember BTC price cannot crash if noone sells! If noone sells the price HAS to go up!

Sorry to say that... But it is completely wrong.
Miners produce. They have to pay their bills. They have to sell.

It's not a question of choice, in the BTC ecosystem there MUST be sellers. There will always be.

The only question is: is there more sellers or buyers?

I'm bearish until the end of October.

Bearish in a bull market.  Go figure.
13603  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 11:16:05 AM


Noticed someone sent me PM   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Dude you can say anything you want in public, please don't send text in private. I don't reply to any -wanna be scammers- in private so save it and no one keeps any good or bad book. Undecided

In my thinking, it can be questionable the extent to which PMs are shared publicly, yet in this case, JSRAW, you are seemingly correct to respond publicly to what seems to be fairly clear baloney and bullying-attempt assertions that you (or any other member) do (es) not have any right (or even obligation) to respond to ideas that are posted in public.   That is within your discretion as a member regarding your responding to public posts(ideas) even if they seem to be attempts to be between two members or some small group of members.... and sure, they can say, publicly to you, to butt the fuck out... hahahahahaaha

By the way, there seems to be a kind of common sense solution here, which is if some member(s) believe that their conversations with another member is really actually private, yet they post such conversation in a public thread, then the error is in the thinking of that member.  Accordingly, if such member believes that his/her conversation with that other member is private, they should take that conversation to private rather than posting it publicly.

^ So the petty fight between you both have spread to WO Board too  Huh

You must be new here, akhjob.  We have petty fights in public all the time.  It's a feature here, not a bug.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
13604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 04:26:41 AM
The reasonable opinions are fine. The rational point of view is fine. It does seem to me (and I'm not the only one) that there is a great deal of bias.

Fuck the various bcashers and their attempts to be reasonable.  The whole premise of the various bcashes has been based on attacking bitcoin rather than really attempting to solve purported technical issues.  Yeah, there have some gullible fucks that got sucked into those pretextual reasons and believing that bcashes were trying to actually provide value and to solve technical issues, but likely many of them are wanting to be mislead rather than actually studying into the truth of the matter.

As mathematicians put it, numbers don't like. The price is the price. 1 BCH = 1 BCH and 1 BSV = 1 BSV. They are already valued by the market accordingly.

No need to give them fucks any benefit of the doubt regarding having some kind of equally significant chains.

The more meaningful prices are:


1 BCH =  .027645 BTC

and

1 BSV = .01070027 BTC.

And add them together

1 Bcash (combined BCH and BSV) = .03834527 BTC


And, likely the bcash variants are going to continue to lose value against BTC, but sure, they are likely to pump and also mislead some more people into their lame-ass evolving attempted claims to legitimacy.

Big blocks is not as simple as just increase the block size. One can argue that because of SegWit, the effective block size has increased as you can stuff in more transactions in the same amount of blockspace.

As for security, it's out there already. There are native bech32 segwit addresses containing more than 350k BTC. That should be more than enough incentive for anyone to attempt spending them out of a perceived flaw in the system.

"In it for the tech, not the money." used to be true 10 years ago. It could be true for some people today, but there's always that little voice in your head where you do want to take profits one way or another.

Of course, any of us can be in it for the tech and for the money.... So having various right ideologies in regards to recognizing the value in bitcoin is also incidentally going to allow me  (and other BTC HODLers/accumulators) to become rich and/or more rich along the way.  A double benefit, even if we don't want to or care to become rich or more rich, the mere accumulation and HODLing of bitcoin is going to cause it.. whether we like it or not... especially if we have at least a 3.5 to 5 year timeline (perhaps less in the current BTC market posture).
13605  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 02:05:20 AM
People have been "talking their books" long before this thread came about. That accounts for a sizeable part of the big block hatred, I reckon.

Look at you, infofront, trying to be BIG blocker sympathetic......  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  

Strictly objectively speaking, I would account for the seemingness of BIG blocker hatred mostly because the ones who persist with their spouting of such nonsense are a bunch of retards (hopefully I am not dragging down actual retards by making such an equivalency assertion).  


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
13606  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 01:53:43 AM
Where did "fatty fuck you" come from? Its all over WO. Am I missing out on something?

he seems to be a BigBlocker.

Surely a reason for personal denigration, if ever one there were.  Roll Eyes


The current era of big blockers are fraudsters and scammers.  Just spend 10 seconds researching Ver or CSW.  

That’s sufficient reason for personal denigration.  

I am an unapologetic big blocker. I am neither fraudster nor scammer. IOW, Go Fuck Yourself.

Historically, in order for you to have employed a variety of your BIG blocker supportive assertions,

Indeed I have. All either statements of truth, reasoned future projections based upon solid facts, or reasonable opinions supported by rational point of view.

Surprise that we don't agree about those characterizations... ... Go figure?  or don't.   Tongue     Roll Eyes

Jbreher = the objective teller of "hard truths," who would-a thunk?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I am an unapologetic big blocker. I am neither fraudster nor scammer. IOW, Go Fuck Yourself.

That's "...Go Fuck Yourself. #nohomo"

Jeeze, get with the program.

That's cute and all -- and I hesitate to call you out specifically -- but this merely demonstrates what a nattering echo chamber full of cross-congratulatory baboon shriek this formerly-important thread has devolved into.

Protip:  You need join forces with fatty in regards to your faux pas reminiscing about how this thread has allegedly gone down the drain.
13607  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 01:49:46 AM
Hey gang. I just started buying a bunch of bitcoins a little while ago but as I keep buying I get less bitcoins for the same amount of money.

I am not sure why this is.

Oh well. Time to buy thousands more at ever decreasing returns.

You just know everybody has family members who will be FOMO buying at $15,000 or something.
Average Joe & all the institutional money should have bought in at sub $6,000 (if not years earlier).

It’s going to be fun on the way up again, being smug AF.  

I'm thinking that average joe buying starts around $28k-ish or maybe a little higher, of course, some variance, depending on how she plays out.
13608  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 01:46:08 AM


If you guys / management dislikes this Whalecalls stuff, please let me know and I'll cease.

No fuck that.

Continue posting them Bob, I like them.


Seems exactly on topic and a service to the rest of us. No?  Objections?

In other words.. what LFC said.
13609  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 10, 2019, 01:41:40 AM
@whiteboy.....

Please keep shorting sir....

Currently, his purported short seems to be exactly on and in the green - not that I am advocating for shorting BTC in an apparent bull market nor am I actually conceding that the goof/troll actually is doing what he is saying that he is doing, even while he currently seems to be on target, no?
13610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 10:51:17 PM
Looks like we might see some action to $8719.55 if we break $8487.35

 Roll Eyes  Cheesy Those numbers  Tongue  Kiss

I prefer $18,719 damn it!

I personally believe that we are going to have some resistance at about $17,234.56... give or take $107.32.  In other words, $18,719, from my limited SOMAtm perspective, is quite a bit further out of reach as compared with sub $17,127.24 - $17,341.86 BTC prices (that is  - give or take my earlier approximate give or take).  Wink
13611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 10:43:46 PM
Yo Bob! Maybe you'll be able to solve your cashing out dilemma soon? JJG's advice seems pretty spot on to me: little anxiety, no pain.

I have JJG on ignore for reasons mostly dealing with maintaining my sanity. Did not read his opinion. Still hmming and hawing about a small selloff at $10k, but leaning towards HOLDing through to the New Year, at least. Looking to sell a small chunk (<25 BTC) more in line with Rick officially retiring sometime mid-late 2020.

Realized I didn't REALLY need the extra cash right now, as I have enough liquid already - should I need it, and no sense topping off our home account before corn moons some more.

Back to HODLing.

Ah... pity for the ignore. He tailored a loving post just for you. It contained solid averaging advice.

Whoops... embarassingly, you, d_eddie, are pointing out overlooked too muchie "lovingly" error of mine... I forgot (subconsciously perhaps?) to type "no homo"  Fuck my life (Fml)!!!!  Sucks to be me.

What are quasi-purported respectable WO peeps and teams going to think, including Blawb (and hopefully partner no is vengeful jealous type)?

I am gathering myself in reflection of this happening, and I have discretionarily concluded that I am going to exercise some self-restraint, and actually leave that earlier post "as is" - even if it could cause some possible misunderstandings, ones that hopefully never have to be actually explored outside of this here fictitious interwebs/tubes location - aka NOT explored in the IRL world.
13612  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 05:38:40 PM
Yo Bob! Maybe you'll be able to solve your cashing out dilemma soon? JJG's advice seems pretty spot on to me: little anxiety, no pain.

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I have JJG on ignore for reasons mostly dealing with maintaining my sanity. Did not read his opinion..... [partially edited out]

........Ok, went back and read JJG's post, looking through his post history... blah blah blah... Anyway, yes, he does make a solid case for cashing out in chunks over a period of time, but, I think the recent decision to not do anything next time we cross $10k, already having access to any liquidity I need for day-to-day living, and wait for mid-late 2020 closer to Ricks retirement will pay-off, should we decide we need a cash injection at that point. YOLO... and shit. Would rather HOLD longar, if I have a choice.

EDIT2: We had a recent hot-water heater issue/replacement/repair that ended up costing less than 1 BTC to resolve (and sheetrock repair after a slower water-leak was discovered two days later) that left me asking Jah and The FSM (RAmen. May his noodly appendage touch you all) if I was alright to handle any emergency expenditures. I hate doubting myself and the plans I've executed. Need to learn how to remain more calm. Damnit.

Pretty much I respond to substantive points, if they interest me, and/or if I believe that they might be decent talking points, including that some of the talking points are ones that a lot of readers of this thread (even active participants) might be going through, but they might not have presented some of their own personal details. 

So, yeah, even if I might find some of your (Bob's) emotional swings to be a bit annoying, and surely I acknowledge that you do not necessarily read my posts (which is only quasi-relevant in my thinking), but the specificity that is presented through your own turmoils can often be quite helpful as a talking point for others because, even if you might conclude that some of the perceived tragedies are only happening to you, they are also happening with several other people, even if the amounts might differ or the causal factors likely vary, too.

So, whether you (Bob) read my responses or not, guys (and maybe gal) can also sometimes get confirmation that the practice that they follow is comparable to mine or differs from mine for reasons x, y or z, but it still possibly allows for a brainstorming over how to deal with what many of us have already determined to be nearly inevitable BTC volatility that sometimes goes in anticipated directions (over the long term), but over the shorter term can really cause considerable stress.  Nonetheless, if we attempt to employ mechanisms to lessen our own psychological and/or financial stresses, then we can sometimes also both benefit from the volatility, and perhaps spend more time on some of the other areas of life that either bring us pleasure or that we have to deal with (which also can be taxing on both our psychology and our finances).

For sure, when guys (and gal) implement their own strategy(ies) to have both cash-on-hand and bitcoin that is staked in the game, they want to figure out what is comfortable for them in terms of their preparations for possible emergencies.  And, yeah, of course, sometimes we know that some emergencies, such as your hot water heater issue, is almost inevitable to happen, even if we don't really know the specifics, so we either have to have cash on hand that can deal with those kinds of issues or be ready, willing and able to cash out whatever portion of our BTC stash in the event that we had chosen to keep our value in BTC rather than in dollars.

Several times, I had mentioned my own situation in November 2018.  From about February/March 2018, I knew that sometime in late 2018, I was going to have some pretty BIG bills in dollars coming in to me, and I had thought that I had adequately prepared for such situation by holding a decent amount of fiat in reserve out of anticipation of my quasi-known expenses.  However, when the actual bills came in, they sort of all came in at once in a way that was outside of my anticipation in that there were both cost overruns as well as some likely lack of preparation from myself in terms of how much fiat that I had kept on-hand to deal with such quasi-known expenses. 

So, in some sense, I kind of failed (at least way the fuck underperformed in my own assessment) in following my own btc/dollar practices, and yeah, what timing that came with an additional 50% BTC price fall from supra $6ks to nearly $3k (that happened pretty quickly but started on about November 15), and I ended up having to cash out about 4-5% more of my BTC stash at an inopportune time in a BTC price range that was in the $3,800 to $4,200 arena.  Over the next 4 months - between December and March, I was able to buy back some of those sold BTC (perhaps about 30-35%), but I have been still kind of kicking myself mentally regarding how I can learn from my own underperformance in terms of my already existing BTC strategies and the situation that was in front of me and how my kind of over-exposure and unrealized expectations (a kind of gamble that I did not sufficiently calculate that I was engaging in) that BTC prices would stay above $6k during the expected time in which I might have needed some additional cash. 

By the way, when I cashed out my about 4-5% more BTC than I had wanted to, part of that cashing out was to prepare for the possibility that BTC prices might dip even lower, even considering extreme possibilities of as low as sub-$2k, so even though in mid-to-late November, I likely had enough cash on-hand to cover my then quasi-expected and overblown expenses, if I had spent all of my cash on those particular expenses, I would have been totally fucked if BTC prices had gone below $3k and even worse fucked if they had gone below $2k.. so I felt that I had to cash out the amount that I did for those eventualities (that as we know did not end up going below $3,122).
13613  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 04:08:00 PM
So, are the Exchanges the biggest Bitcoin Holders?


Source: https://twitter.com/thetokenanalyst/status/1181618606649548800

Info more explained : https://bitcoinist.com/who-are-the-biggest-bitcoin-hodlers/

Exchanges usually have the advantage of knowing where the Stop Loss, supports and resistances are, as well as the areas of opportunity for the best trade.

Yeah, it is funny or strange that the graph does not include coinbase or gemini, and also besides exchanges, there are some other third party (potentially price determiners, even though they might be considered Over The Counter (OTC) such as greyscale (holder of GBTC coins) and BAKKT).   There had been some reports that coinbase might hold a million coins or close to it, and also greyscale had something like a million or more coins.  Not always easy to determine where all the coins are, which also gets us into some challenges regarding whether some of the exchanges might be engaged in fractional reserves, which had been kind of implied by some of the fake trading reports that were made about several of the outside of the US exchanges.
13614  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 03:43:36 PM
I am positively with bitcoin's both short-term and long-term movements, but I think some of you guys are overexpect that Bitcoin will soon retest $20k, or break it around next year halvening day. Over its history, bitcoin has not yet broken its all time high before or very soon after its halvening days.

I, personally, still enjoy the rally of bitcoin in next few days, maybe till the end of this month, but it is worthy to keep in mind that investors need to stay as neutrally as possible when they stay inside market, and try to maximize profits from their capital by taking profits at peaks, buying back at dips and doing it repeatedly rather than holding their bitcoin for years and expect it will hit $1 mil. for each bitcoin.
 

Do you have links for those two charts?   I cannot determine the source, exactly.
13615  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
There's no hope for JayJuanGee
He speaks in tongues
Walls of text block out the sun
Even devils run
The crooked Bitcoin young

Brings a tear to my eye, roach, and you even did not place any no homo label, which makes me feel even moar special.   Cry Cry
13616  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 01:00:37 PM
Oh, and by the way, it's not me that's childish, it's you that's a turd.

Repetitive posts that harp on the same theme is not childish?  You think that adds any value to have you repeat the posts of any particular poster, especially some dumbass like fatty who does not really tend to have any meaningful value to add anyhow, and then you go ahead and quote his posts and add your tag of emotion to each one of them, and you believe that deserves any other label?  Maybe there are some better labels, such as "thread-clogging" or "unnecessary," but childish does seem to fit pretty well, off the cuff, too, no?
13617  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 12:51:21 PM

Yes, I doubt that he has much of anything, and just talks in theory and acts as if he is actually trading.
13618  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 07:25:10 AM
Hmmm, the version "Go fuck yourself Fatman" was also deleted. So, not a program deleting.
Then who is it? Show yourself!

Largely, I agree with the sentiment of your post, but even you realize that repetition of such similar responses even while quoting diptwat fatty, does not really add any value to the thread. 

I have had quite a few posts deleted over the years that upon reflection do not really add much if any value, and of course admin has some discretion here, including imposing harsher penalties on you for continuing to engage in the behavior that they are removing.

This forum is not like a completely free form way to express any god damned thing that you want, even though we know that some posters, sometimes do seem to get away with some pretty outrageous off-topicness and even socially repulsive posts.  In any event, I remain a bit puzzled why you would conclude that your mostly non-substantive posts (beyond a kind of childish form of expressive art) are really worthy of remaining on WO's historical record or that admins (whoever the fuck they are) would have to either explain themselves or admit to which one(s) are deleting your objectively true as non-substantive thread clogging contributions (if you would deem them as such)...

We need a bigger blockchain so that Fuck you Fatty can be immortalised forever

That's a great idea.  It's like saying fuck you to the weather, but you cannot because it is captured immemorial. ... well at least as long as miners are continuing to mine those valuable weather blocks... that may as well be fuck you fatty weather blocks.   Wink 
13619  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 07:18:37 AM
Hmmm, the version "Go fuck yourself Fatman" was also deleted. So, not a program deleting.
Then who is it? Show yourself!


why don't u just stop with the childish behavior and spam ?


I guess losing money gets to u.


Looking to short in the 8.7k area but fear the bulls are to impotent to even try and fill my bids.

Have you already closed the short that you had opened at $8,420?  smartie pants.
13620  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 07:09:24 AM
Hmmm, the version "Go fuck yourself Fatman" was also deleted. So, not a program deleting.
Then who is it? Show yourself!

Largely, I agree with the sentiment of your post, but even you realize that repetition of such similar responses even while quoting diptwat fatty, does not really add any value to the thread. 

I have had quite a few posts deleted over the years that upon reflection do not really add much if any value, and of course admin has some discretion here, including imposing harsher penalties on you for continuing to engage in the behavior that they are removing.

This forum is not like a completely free form way to express any god damned thing that you want, even though we know that some posters, sometimes do seem to get away with some pretty outrageous off-topicness and even socially repulsive posts.  In any event, I remain a bit puzzled why you would conclude that your mostly non-substantive posts (beyond a kind of childish form of expressive art) are really worthy of remaining on WO's historical record or that admins (whoever the fuck they are) would have to either explain themselves or admit to which one(s) are deleting your objectively true as non-substantive thread clogging contributions (if you would deem them as such)...
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