I think we're going into a bull market. What do you think?  Yes we are. It's already starting as a matter of fact. It's a good time to start buying. |
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To the poll; have emotions influenced your trading decisons before? I'm curious to see how many if us have fallen for our own mind games. Do not look at it from the lens of now. But think back to the time and try and figure out if it was an panicked choice, or a logical one.
Did you sell while the prices were falling from the ATL because of panic? Did you buy LTC at 30 dollars? Try and differentiate between sound choices and pure emotional speculation. This may be a good thread for people to reflect and see if they are making their trades wisely or not. Although someone's best logical choices might be worse than someone's best emotional choices.
Always. I love revenge trading. It makes me a lot of manies. |
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How is it possible to squander $18 millions ?
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It was my mum's birthday yesterday. And I wanted to buy a birthday cake for her, but when I reached the bread shop, I realized I forgot carrying my wallet and I had only a few bucks in my pocket. I tried to talk to the boss of the shop if I can pay by bitcoin, to my surprise, she said YES and finally I paid the cake by bitcoin.  This is my first time to use BTC as real money buying a real physical goods. As a bitcoiner, using BTC online is very common. Have you ever used Bitcoin as Real money to buy Real/physical goods? plz share your experience.  Does the Silk Road count? I also miss DPR's posts. I hope someone else holds and carries the mantle. |
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^ Listen to these guys. You'll be able to buy your own Lambo. Ship the whip!
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Hi Ty. When will the official thread be unlocked? |
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True. But it's still going down. What does that tell you?
That USD is going up? Or the people are dumping? |
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Hard to say without being biased.
I am biased because I see real work going on daily behind the scenes with amazing devs and real connections being made outside of the cryptosphere. NEM Exactly. |
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Maybe he's "revenge trading".
He doesn't know how any of these coins work and thought the price just went up for no reason and shorted it. He doesn't know the price will probably be stable somewhere between 0.00003000 to 0.00009000 after BTS 2.0 release and thinks he can actually just stall the market here until he wins.That's not a sure thing. This is trading first and foremost, and one thing I learned thru experience is nothing is a sure thing in trading. |
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So If using cryptocurrencies become a crime, will you be a criminal AND use it?Note: Before you reply remember CIA/FBI/NSA/South-park/... I see it the same as smoking weed. It's all in the legal gray area bitches. |
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Would you still use and believe in bitcoin if it became reversible, say if satoshi himself managed the disputes like paypal does?
Will you quit?
I'm getting tired of the statements that it can't be done, its a hypothetical situation and I'm asking for your reaction , please bother to read the posts before you post
No idea where this is headed. Please expain because your hypothetical situation is just too stupid to give a comment to. |
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Bitcoin's biggest scourge is 'cypherpunk anarchists' idiots who are anti-establishment. All these banks are putting serious effort and money into building on this great invention - and they totally disown the idiots who might be characterized as cypherpunks. http://www.coindesk.com/citi-hsbc-partner-with-r3cev-as-blockchain-project-adds-13-banks/ Bitcoin needs to carefully get rid of the morons who keep blowing the anti-society anti rules horn. What a stupid end to a great invention. Is bitcoin really dead? Did the cypherpunk kill bitcoin? Wow. You got it backwards dude. Without them, there would be no Blockchain. Satoshi could even be part of that elite group for all we know... Aight? |
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Hard to say without being biased.
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Maybe he's "revenge trading".  |
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I think the answer will depend more on the success of Ethereum in the future. It will all depend on Buterin himself now. Stick to the project and make it a success with ETH going up and staying up or the project failing will probably satisfy lots of people from both sides of the argument.
Only time will tell.
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i already answered
What makes you think Bitshares is a scam? They clearly have a nice looking project. Arguably better than BTC technically depending on how you see it imo. you can get some bitshares and play with yourself or other 10 people. adoption, adoption, chance for bitshares adoption = 0.00000% That doesn't make it a scam. It sort of does in the sense that you are playing greater fool where someone is inevitably left holding the bag if there isn't actual adoption at the end of the story. I don't take as hard a line on it as benthach does, and I think some alt projects are actually trying to achieve that adoption, but I also think there is a huge portion of this scene that is effectively a massively multiplayer online gambling game where whoever sells last (or not at all) loses. So Bitcoin could be called the same thing if there weren't enough users? Nice avatar btw. It could, somewhat. I view it as less so because when Bitcoin was launched there was no precedent that it would ever have any monetary value at all. There were no markets to trade on. The concept of a crypto investor didn't even exist. Today (and especially in 2013-2014) it is much, much easier to just be an opportunist. True true. But do you honestly think Buterin started Ethereum with a malicious plan to scam people out of their money from the beginning? Words like "malicious" and "scam" are really subjective. I do think he started it with the intent to take a lot of investors money and put it in his and his friends' pocket, while not really making a solemn commitment to be a good custodian of the investors' money and deliver what was promised (and not treat the money as his personal playground to spend on and work on whatever the hell he felt like). And in the end that is exactly how it has worked out. I don't think he intended to just take the money and run, delivering nothing at all. That's also consistent with how it worked out. So, scam, or not scam. Malicious or not malicious. Everyone can decide individually how to characterize it. So he scammed people without making it look like an outright scam. What is the state of the project btw? Edit: Don't answer that. I'll make a new thread asking how the frontier release is, and how it was received. Or I'll just do my own research and go through their forum if I'm not lazy. Anyway, nice talk. You have opened my eyes to the possibility that there could be a new category of scumbag in crypto. And it could be the lowest of the low at that. Thanks. |
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Buterin is well meaning. It isn't like he planned to scam people from the beginning. And wtf are you trying to do by opening this thread. Edit: Oh and sock puppets coming up... I'm just trying to figure out how people are going to rationalize this. What are they going to say? Oh, Vitalik has this enormous brain so he's allowed to do this, he only did it once after all (that we know of). Bob, on the other hand, has a much smaller brain, therefore he's not allowed to make money doing this. I'm not even sure that's true. Bob is brilliant in his own way. I also think in a sense Bob is more honest because he at least is up front (at some level) with what he is doing. Vitalik is "well-meaning" as tokeweed calls it only in the sense that he isn't even honest with himself about it (I think -- no way to know for sure). So you're basically saying Buterin had a malicious plan of scamming people out of their money from the beginning while keeping a front of a well meaning individual who's trying to create something great? |
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ulterior motives and personal agendas that's motivating them in tarnishing Ethereum
I just think we're doing a disservice to Bob. Too much praise and an almost cult like following is being given to Vitalik. Bob should be given speaking engagements as well. lol. wtffff? |
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people can creating virtually anything surrounding bitcoin but they're not doing it, because it don't make them money Why would they though? Lots of people bought Bitcoin really cheap (Max Keiser), so now you're supposed to do a bunch of work on top of Bitcoin to make rich people more rich instead of attempting to make yourself rich? You can't really fault them trying. Just stop trying to classify Vitalik as the pope or something. He pulled a typical Bobsurplus scam.Same can be said to lots of other individuals in crypto. BCNext, Bytemaster, Jed McCaleb, Evan.. etc etc.. Really? He collected 21 Bitcoins @ ~$120 USD and didn't even get a stake. i already answered
What makes you think Bitshares is a scam? They clearly have a nice looking project. Arguably better than BTC technically depending on how you see it imo. you can get some bitshares and play with yourself or other 10 people. adoption, adoption, chance for bitshares adoption = 0.00000% That doesn't make it a scam. if you don't know 100% developer/s usually making money and first one to get out, this is considered opportunist scam pyramid in my book. this will continue on and on. But Bytemaster is still with the project he started and is still trying to create new stuff in crypto development pushing the envelop. And that's the thing, how can you call him a "scammer" in the same sense as Bobsurplus is a real scammer. I may also seize brownie points from any account if you fall out of favor and anyone who complains in any way about how Brownie Points are issued or how I use Brownie Points is certainly not in my favor and may lose any Brownie Points they have earned. -Bytemaster, Dan Larimer Bah. I know you know what I mean... Some people just have it in black or white where they classify Buterin and Bobsurplus in the same type of people (scammers) and refuse to look at the situation more closely and refuse to accept the fact that it is more complicated than that. Mentioning those names was more like expressing a rhetoric rather than outright saying "Hey these people are scammers too." |
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