Oh gawd!!!!!

Hopefully, you can learn from your mistakes, but many of us have been lecturing about NOT gambling and NOT fucking around with alts, and attempting to focus ur selfie on bitcoin, and so many peeps seem to know better, so it is difficult to say how many alt coin dabblers continue to not learn.

There are a few guys here who seem to have mostly learned their lessons from past price cycles in which they may have sacrificed too many BTC in their back and forth attempts to risk too many BTC while trying to accumulate BTC through alt coin phoney baloney that may or may not end up working out.

Personally, I would not recommend playing around like that, and we are already in an area that is 25% or so correction from the top.

Of course, we could get a correction of 50% or more, but personally, I am already comfortable buying all the way down to $7k or even further down, if BTC prices were to happen to go there... which also means that at this time, I am not putting off any kind of buying opportunities, and I will buy all the way down in relatively tight price increments.

So, yeah, if the price ends up going shooting down to $7k or even lower, then maybe I would feel a tiny bit of retrospective resentment that I did not hold off on my BTC purchases for a lower price, but there is almost no fucking way that I have that much confidence that our current correction is going to be any larger than it already has been (down to $9,855). 

Anyhow, I don't play gambling like that.

Furthermore, your first point seemed to have been an attempt to make an overall assessment about being in a 2013 pattern, and I was focusing on the lack of comparability of the peaks; however, now I see that you seem to be a bit more preoccupied with the potential severity of this current trough.  I was not convinced about your faulty analysis of the double peaks, and I surely would hate to attempt to rely on your projection of a possible deep trough based on the same overlay of a timeframe that I don't even believe to be an accurate overlay for other reasons.

Accordingly, I had already mentioned that I thought that we might be in a kind of early 2016-like scenario, which does not necessarily justify much if any further downward movement,  but instead a kind of prolonged consolidation that could take a few months before we again break above $13,880.. which would be like in late May 2016 when we broke back above $504.

So whatever do what you like?  Put off some of your buying decisions and you might get lucky, but you might just get roached  if you are not preparing for both up and down, and perhaps if you are not selling BTC, but merely delaying purchasing of BTC then you will not get burned as badly as roach or even billyjoeallen had gotten burned... in a kind of butt hole hurting way.   


In other words, HODL and ACCUMULATL!!!!!!!!!   you greedy fucks (generally, not you specifically, Biodom).   

Why would you cry?  You holding alt coins?

If you were holding bitcoin, there should not be any real reason to cry, right?

Bitcoin was up about 3.5x from April 1 to late june, but now, it is only 2.4x up...   

As a mostly BTC HODLer and BTC accumulator, difficult for me to cry in these times and these current market circumstances.

To the extent that my feelings matter, I feel that you are delusional if you believe that such striking changes would be possible under current political circumstances, and even that bans of bitcoin would be a very practical route for any administration to attempt, because even if Trump is a relatively dumb fuck when it comes to dealing with complex matters, he likely is still surrounded by a lot of capable people who would understand that bitcoin is different from other crypto currencies and is different from facebook, which might allow more of an ability to ban those other coins rather than bitcoin, but even attempting to ban crypto currencies would be a messy and complicated endeavor that is likely already attempting to be conceptually grappled with from a lot of governmental angles (and even ongoingly and contradictorily).

You are the main one who comes off as delusional, roach....   including the fact that you are citing bcash bullshit in this thread...

I don't come anywhere near to believing that money (from my becoming filthy rich through bitcoin) is going to buy me much if anything directly in terms of life extension... Only expect that rich peeps can afford to engage in more healthy lifestyles, if they so choose, and that will likely be my attempts to engage in healthy lifestyle, to the extent that I am able to with all my scrooge mcduck levels of wealth..

You on the other hand, might not be able to live very long if you don't diversify somewhat out of some of your crap PMs that, in the coming years, might even be manipulated into depreciating worse than the dollar.   Certainly they are not going to be able to come, even close, to keeping up with the likely price appreciation of BTC. 

Sure is nice that some of this is coming while BTC is bouncing around $10k.

Some of us were tentatively of the belief that BTC had to go below $3k in order for this kind of a purging scenario to have reasonable chances of playing out.

Alts don't lead shit in this market, you dumb fuck.

Merely because an alt or two might run to the front of an already moving mob and label themselves as the leader of the group does not make the ones in front to be the leader... get a grip.


Focus prophetx..... focus....   You seem to be unable or unwilling to recognize the difference between correlation and causation.

I still stand by my previous post.

You can neither assume away the most important context, which is the $19,666 peak form late 2017 nor can you suggest that the fact that $13,880 is not an ATH is not a relevant consideration.  Snap into reality and deal with the real and certainly relevant facts, Biodom.   



Makes little sense to make a scenario that does not account for real and materially important contextual components that likely underly BTC price drives and current ongoing BTC price dynamics.

Get a fucking grip, prophetx, bitcoin is the dog, not the tail... You dumb fuck.

In other words, alts are the tail, not the dog,  You dumb fuck....

 Do I need to sic batman on you?

   

Are you copying my incremental buying pattern, you fuck....


Oh wait?  Bawb is buying on the way up and on the way down... in between his other sporadic and unpredictable emotional outbursts, that is not really what I am doing.....    


Carry on.     



By the way, on a side note, I understand that Bawb has been engaging in a decent amount of self-restraint in recent times, so I should not be attempting to stir him up...   I might be a victim of boredom, too..... 

You fucking liar (oh, what would I expect?  don't scammers lie on pathological and repetitive basis?).


Vast majority of trolls like you, promise to leave, and never do it... Look at roach.... cannot fucking stop.... and even feel a bit bad for roach, because even roach as a troll shill does not scam to as stupidly high a level as you.....

Anyhow, I will believe your voluntary exit when I see it... most likely any true exit from a degenerate troll/shill/scammer like you would be that you would be banned.... hope springs eternal....  

Hey I am NOT responding with any specific knowledge about what happened to Tim Draper, yet I understand that it is healthy to maintain a decent amount of skepticism about whether public folks are good for their word.  

I doubt that any of the BIG players like Draper sell large portions of their coins and play around with the market in a way that you are kind of suggesting.  Surely, they might skim off 5% or 10%, but I would imagine it is not easy getting your hands on a bunch of coins, again  and at the time  that you would like, so it is much easier just to hang onto the vast majority of coins through the volatile periods.

Furthermore, Draper pretty much made various claims about bitcoin going to $250k or whatever the hell it was, so I doubt that he is pumping for some kind of intermediary profit attempts, or even gives too many shits if his holdings might be fluctuating many $10s of millions per day, perhaps even into the $100s of millions per day arena.  I would imagine that he has a decent surplus of coins, too, so needs to figure, from time to time, what kinds of projects, in which he might choose to invest  just to keep himself entertained or as a kind of influencer in the space....  

I better stop while I am ahead, because I was starting to ponder  some speculations about how he might be spending some of his time on lambos, hookers and blow, but perhaps he is bored with that kind of stuff... unlike us newly rich fantasizing about when we become newly filthy rich, we would like to emphasize the filthy, since we are going to be newbies to that part of it, unlike Draper.... hahahaha

Even though we might be able to have two peaks, y0our comparison does not even seem close to me, unless either you:  1) count the first 2013 peak as the 2017 $19,666, then that would mean that the next peak is to come or 2) this $13,880 cannot be a peak except to be a kind of late 2015 peak of $504, which is just an intermediate stage, but anyhow under a second "two peaks theory" then the two peaks would still be to come, so maybe we would have a peak this year and another one next year, but the peaks still have to each be ATHs like they were in 2013... so anyhow, I am getting all screwed in the head merely attempting to rebutt your $13,880 peak theory because $13,880 is no kind of meaningful peak, its just an intermediate stop, like a baby peak (or a baby bullhorn spouting out of its little head before dee bull grows UPpity)

I think that I can relate to most of what you say in regards to preferring to accumulate BTC, and don't really want to get caught into situations that you do not have enough BTC, because you ended up taking too many risks in attempting to get more of it. 

Also, good to already have a decent fiat cashflow too, in order that you are not feeling anymore  urgencies to sell and can ride out a decent amount of expected ongoing BTC price volatility.

Hahahahaha..

Yeah... How could I forget about that nimcompoop, aka proudhon?

You are correct.  He seems to be in the Roach/BillyJoeAllen Category, and he might even be a bit more severely delusional than those two in regards to his comically low expectations.  He might even be starting his buy orders in the double digits, which means that he is going to continue to fulfill his personal wish to maintain nocoiner status, until coins are above $1million and he may buy then?

Above is an example of hopium...


I love your never ending and ongoing optimism, gembitz....


wwwweeeeeeeeeeeee

You, Gembitz,Tone Vays, and Tyler Jenks.    jonoiv is waiting for $6,000 before his buy orders even begin, and  Roach and BillyJoeAllen are waiting for $700 before they begin their buy orders.  Stubborn but optimistic lil fucks, who are NOT too likely to increase your stashes, especially regarding any of your orders below $7,500.   

I agree.  It's a nice little video, and seems to be largely bullish on BTC, even though there remains a decent amount of uncertainty of the effects of facebook coin on the space.

Finally some of your posts are getting deleted.  About fucking time, you dweeb.  

You got to spread your nonsense for too much time, and even though the vast majority of us recognize your bullshit (probably more than 99.9%), it only takes one or two more gullible and/or ignorant folks to send you any kind of value - which is likely your target anyhow, since your offer is stupid as fuck, so hopefully no (not even naive dumb money shit) sends you any quantity of anything for your clutter space with offers of pure meaninglessness regarding someone, like you, who is no where capable or even minimally connected to be able to marginally cause the results that you claim to be able to cause.  

Furthermore, you diptwat, BTC's price is going up whether anyone here wants it to or not, so it remains a bit aggravating to see that a powerless, scamming dweeb like yourself is attempting to get credit for something that you in no way or manner contributed to causing.

Are you talking about ATH or AYH?

Seems a bit too premature to be talking about ATH, just yet, right?

Don't we gotta get above AYH first, and also once we get above AYH, there could be some resistance in the $16k to $17.5k arena that slows us down in terms of getting to ATH..... yet I tentatively believe that once we get into the $17,500 or above range, then there could be a bit of "inevitability" that gets  factored into BTC price dynamics, and sure nothing is a given in BTC, but kind of still seems that $17.5k to about $24k is going to remain a kind of deadman's zone... Surely, you can trade a bit to kind of protect yourself just in case the less likely scenarios play out, but the more likely bet is that we are not very likely to get stuck in the $17.5k to $24k for very long, unless we shoot significantly past them first.. perhaps $40k-ish minimum...

By the way, personally, I still will sell a bit of coin in the $17.5k to $24k price range as a kind of mechanical insurance, even though I kind of consider selling in that whole range to be a kind of charity from me to BTC 's market liquidity - while at the same time, I just have some difficulties diverting too much from a plan and schedule that I have already developed that seems to work pretty damned well for my own situation including my psychology.