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1381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
Yup, if nobody's (panic) selling, that's very bullish IMO.
1382  Economy / Speculation / Re: holy shit, china is going parabolic.. on: May 05, 2013, 07:25:52 AM
Because Bitcoin wasn't interesting enough already?!?!
1383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 07:23:17 AM
Yup, without any transactions someone is trying to maintain at least a 1 min lag.
1384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 07:21:09 AM
Lag attack.
1385  Economy / Speculation / Re: What sort of effect to expect on price w/ China news? on: May 05, 2013, 06:49:04 AM
Effect? The writing is on the wall: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/stats/map?dates=2013-05-04

Yea, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around this, but it happened.
24k Bitcoin-QT download? WTF?!
1386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 06:47:03 AM
That was an interesting dump.
1387  Economy / Speculation / Re: holy shit, china is going parabolic.. on: May 05, 2013, 05:40:02 AM
Chinese government likes bitcoin for the same reasons it likes precious metals.  They want to bring wealth into the country.

That's really disturbing. If there's one thing one should remember from history, it's that the one with the gold makes the rules.

Meanwhile, westerners sell their gold.  Huh
1388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's Talk Bitcoin! #4 "The Horrible Warnings" Dissecting CoinLab Vs. Gox.... on: May 05, 2013, 05:28:46 AM
We actually did talk about the elephant in the room, it wasn't really a one-sided contract.  It may seem that way, but signing the contract prevented the creation of probably their most connected US challenger to date.  The partnership means that Gox basically keeps their monopoly on market trading, rather than losing their US customers when Coinlab's exchange is much easier to get money into, and comply with relevent tax law.

Yes I do remember you talking about the Quid pro quo, but in my opinion this really isn't of the same magnitude.

MtGox was removing only one (theoretical) competitor, at the cost of giving away much.

This move was risking to alienate part of their customers; many people really
didn't like the idea of MtGox simply transferring private information like this.
(Which was expressed quite clearly on the forum.)

I, for one, really didn't like the move to US soil.

Gox also pretty much has a de facto monopoly on market trading anyway.
People buy BTCs from different exchanges, but if they want to trade, they mostly just send their BTCs to Gox.
I don't really see any reason why buyers at Coinlab would have stayed at CoinLab.

The contract mentioned that Gox was supposed to help CoinLab with the liquidity and know-how.
This, alone, is a huge chunk! We've seen again and again exchanges appearing with what you call the amateurs hour.
What were they lacking? For the most part, liquidity and know-how.

CoinLab also gained the prestige that comes with associating with the oldest and most successful Bitcoin exchange.
From a startup which initial plan was to GPU mine on gamers computers... let's just say it was a more than necessary PR boost.

And this is all assuming that CoinLab indeed had some important footholds in the
banking world that would prevent banks from arbitrarily closing their account.

Oh and CoinLab, by the contract, is also prohibited from entering in competition with MtGox for only 2 years.

It's probable that Mark saw things I didn't see, but that deal really looks one-sided to me.  Huh


Edit: Related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yNWUcmfJoQ
1389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 04:37:31 AM
bearish wedge coming to a close right now. midnight dump?

Uh? Where?

What time period are you looking at?


Also, this. is. the. INTERNET!
Midnight is meaningless! (Unless you meant UTC  Wink)
1390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 03:16:22 AM
montreal meetup was fucking AWESOME! not too many people, but tons of fun!



buy tons of bitcoin  Wink

There was a Montréal meetup?!  Shocked
Nobody told meeeee!
1391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone noticed the parity between exchanges? on: May 05, 2013, 02:55:42 AM
I think you are trying too hard...

"What's the price on MtGox? Oh! Wow I better set my ask higher then!"
1392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's Talk Bitcoin! #4 "The Horrible Warnings" Dissecting CoinLab Vs. Gox.... on: May 05, 2013, 02:41:53 AM
Yolo!

Some feedbacks:

The intro where you present everyone, the purpose of the podcast and everything
was kinda long. Especially for those who listened to the other podcasts.

Between the first and second part, there was a long musical part.
If I listen to a podcast, it's for hearing people talk.  Wink

Really enjoyed the ID scheme!

BitcoinATM: The story might be much more interesting... the other cofounder is the SilverVigilante;
he already works with Jeff Berwick on other projects. I urged him to speak up, but still nothing.  Sad

MtGox: This is why I love the free market. Everyone's bitching about MtGox, but the fact is that
they provide a service and (at least for now) they are better than everyone else. They've also remained
unhacked for a surprisingly long period of time. Especially considering they are probably the prime target.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
I also wonder why nobody mentioned the elephant in the room... it seems the contract is incredibly one-sided
to benefit Coinlab. Why the hell did Mark signed this in the first place?

Anyhow, keep up the good work!  Grin
1393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 02:25:25 AM
Again, I want to re-emphasize that we were already in an upward trend
before the China event. It might have nothing to do with it.
1394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 12:50:12 AM
The 'utility' aspect is explained in more details here:
http://konradsgraf.com/blog1/2013/4/6/hyper-monetization-questioning-the-bitcoin-bubble-bubble.html
1395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears? Where are you? Bulls? on: May 05, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
Even with the best fundamentals in the world, you won't see something
going from $100 to 1 million in less than a year.

People will (even if unconscionably) refuse to accept it.
1396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 05, 2013, 12:21:52 AM
This 'magic' has won its place in the wall of fame of bold predictions.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193526.msg2031019#msg2031019
1397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall of Fame: Quotes of Bold Predictions on: May 05, 2013, 12:21:10 AM
FWIW $80 was the low for a long-time, maybe forever. 

$115 is Fair Value for Bitcoin NOW.

sqrt (Peak $266 / Low $50)  = 2.31

sqrt (Retrace peak $166.4 / Retrace low $79) = 1.45

$266 / 2.31 = $115.2
$166 / 1.45 = $114.5
  $79 * 1.45 = $114.5
  $50 * 2.31 = $115.2

Expect Bitcoin fx rate to oscillate with a median value of $115 for some time, at least until next major news-fed feeding frenzy!

 Cheesy
1398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who is attending the bitcoin conference? on: May 04, 2013, 11:59:59 PM
I don't think the 'speculation' forum is the place for this.
1399  Economy / Speculation / Re: The bear market is on....Welcome to "Bearpocalypse Now" on: May 04, 2013, 11:59:09 PM
You do realize that I was waiting to go below $50 3 weeks ago?  Angry
1400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 29,000 votes on Dropbox website, will they start accepting bitcoin? on: May 04, 2013, 11:20:06 PM
At the same time, bitcoiners might look like relentless dogmatics.
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