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1381  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 20, 2015, 07:51:57 PM
So if a red trust rating is not the same like marking a scammer
Where did this come from? I haven't said it's not the same. If you ask me it's almost the same. A red trust rating is a scammer tag or an indication that an user had a scammy behavior which indicates it's very likely he will (or tried to) scam.

would you be fine if someone makes your trust red because he "thinks" you are a scammer? You know... you would not be able to defend yourself, because the evidences are only the believe of someone. So what would you say then?
Sure that would be fine as long as I've had a scammy behavior or I'm trying to scam, even if I haven't really scammed. If that was produced for a misunderstanding I would PM him or create a thread on Meta. Since I have never had a scammy behavior I would be certain that negative trust wouldn't last.


This is not entirely true.  You don't have to have any "scammy behavior", all you really have to do is get on the bad side someone on negative trust.  It's pretty easy if you tend to call people out who are in the blessed class.

If I received a negative rating without even having a scammy behavior or other good reason then of course I wouldn't be OK with that. However that's very unlikely to happen and if it's clear I would contact the person who added that person into the default list (i.e. the user of depth 1) and ask him to remove him.

What do you mean "get on the bad side"? If you have problems with other people and "tend to call people out" then definitely you have more chances of people calling you out too. But if you never had a shady behavior it would be very difficult for them to do so (unless they're just plain lying but in that case it shouldn't be difficult to have them removed from the default trust list).




1382  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 20, 2015, 07:20:46 PM
So if a red trust rating is not the same like marking a scammer
Where did this come from? I haven't said it's not the same. If you ask me it's almost the same. A red trust rating is a scammer tag or an indication that an user had a scammy behavior which indicates it's very likely he will (or tried to) scam.

would you be fine if someone makes your trust red because he "thinks" you are a scammer? You know... you would not be able to defend yourself, because the evidences are only the believe of someone. So what would you say then?
Sure that would be fine as long as I've had a scammy behavior or I'm trying to scam, even if I haven't really scammed. If that was produced for a misunderstanding I would PM him or create a thread on Meta. Since I have never had a scammy behavior I would be certain that negative trust wouldn't last.

Just to make it clear (in case it wasn't for you on my previous posts) I do not think it's OK to leave a negative trust if I just have a hunch someone is a scammer. But it's OK to do it if I'm 99% convinced he is trying to scam (even if he hasn't yet). As I've said I have left negative trust with only about 50% certainty but I never consider it closed on those conditions. I keep reading the replies and either keep it if that certainty goes close to 100% or remove it otherwise. Several scams are produced because of a newbie making a deal right after a scammer posts a thread. That thread usually has several red flags that older users can notice but not newbies. It's possible someone can show "false positive" red flags such as not using escrow or not providing collateral for a loan. But on those cases they will correct quite fast if someone points that out. If they do of course the negative trust should be immediately removed. I'm convinced it's OK to leave a red rating if I'm 99% sure someone tries to scam (as I also said that doesn't apply for a judge and someone accused of a crime). Although I'm not on default trust I think some people will read the feedback and I hope I prevented at least one scam.

There would be much more scams if only those who succeeded on scamming received red trust and not those with clear scammy/shady behavior. They could scam, get negative trust, create a new account and repeat knowing they won't get his account red until they scam again.

(Again your post and my response are somewhat off-topic. I'm talking in general here, not about OP.)

Edit:
Ok, you dont think the red trust is justified. But i think OP wasnt shady too. Only rules werent made clear before the start. The trade already started without that. I wouldnt want to be in a trade and then hear new rules being added to the contract.
Regarding this probably it's not worth commenting because I think OP's behavior was somewhat shady and you don't and that's that. However to make it clear I think it was shady mainly because the conditions he demanded didn't protect the seller and because he backed out of the deal even after all his conditions were met (OP recognized the conditions were met and he backed out just because he was angry). I don't think that's enough to tag him as a scammer but that's definitely not a professional behavior. It's like when someone bids on an auction and then cancels the deal after winning. The other party could have rejected other deals because OP already confirmed it. Personally I prefer not to deal with someone that does this kind of things.

1383  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for PHP/Wordpress expert coder on: April 20, 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Hi Guys, i m running a wp blog, i need to develope some tools in order to improve site features and speed up the updating process.
So if you re very good expert on this cms i will pay you (in BTC obviously) for this project, pm for details. Thanks.

Hi. I'm able to help on this. PM me what exactly you need so I can send you an estimate of time and cost.
1384  Economy / Lending / Re: can someone loan me 2bitcoins on: April 20, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
hallo i will like someone to loan me 2btc loan for 2weeks
intrest :25 pocent
collateral : www.speelgoed123.be
after 2weeks
i going to pay back in time and no scam

conditions: is if i dont pay back loan  after 2weeks the webshope can be sold to recover the lender money back
and the lender gets full login information of my admin and full control of it .


You need to provide proof of traffic and income of your site. If it's really worth more than 2BTC+interest and you find a lender that takes that collateral you would need to transfer the domain and provide full admin access to the lender (or a trusted escrow) before you receive the loan, not after you default it. During the loan you must have no way to access the site or recover it before repaying it.

But first step: prove the site is worth more than 2.5 BTC.

1385  Economy / Lending / Re: can someone loan me 2bitcoins on: April 20, 2015, 03:07:05 PM
hallo i will like someone to loan me 2btc loan for 2weeks
intrest :25 pocent
after 2weeks
i going to pay back in time and no scam


You do need to offer a valid collateral. Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0
Without this there's 0% chance you will get a loan and 100% chance you will get negative trust.
1386  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: █【BUYING ONLY】█ [BITCOIN] █ [PAYPAL][SKRILL][SEPA] █ ◄ HIGHLY trusted member ► on: April 20, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
I bought BTC0.7449 from ghibly79 via PayPal. I sent first and he sent right after receiving the funds. Thanks for a smooth deal.
1387  Other / Archival / Re: 2 BTC loan for 2.25 BTC back in 30 days or less + free advertising on: April 19, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
I have collateral, and I'm negotiating terms with a lender now. But if you use collateral you don't get free advertising...  Cry

I only received proof of ownership of some sites. If you do have valid collateral let me know or even better post it here publicly. I don't mind if I don't receive advertisement but there's no way I will give this loan without a valid collateral.
1388  Other / Archival / Re: 2 BTC loan for 2.25 BTC back in 30 days or less + free advertising on: April 19, 2015, 01:13:15 PM
Feel free to send me a PM to discuss advertising options before payment.

Not sure if that was for me. Just to be clear I mean collateral as something that can easily be sold for more than 2.25 BTC if the loan is defaulted, as explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902
Advertisement would work as part of the interest but not as collateral.


PM sent

Thanks. But as I said the advertisement is not a valid collateral because it's not worth more than 2.25 BTC (in the PM you say it's worth much more than the interest, even if that's true it's not worth more than the loan plus interest) and because you could remove if at any time if you wanted to.
You seem to have several valuable sites but even proving you can pay the loan back it doesn't guarantee you will.
I can't loan this amount without a valid collateral and I wouldn't advice anybody to do it.
1389  Other / Archival / Re: 2 BTC loan for 2.25 BTC back in 30 days or less + free advertising on: April 19, 2015, 12:37:53 PM
Feel free to send me a PM to discuss advertising options before payment.

Not sure if that was for me. Just to be clear I mean collateral as something that can easily be sold for more than 2.25 BTC if the loan is defaulted, as explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902
Advertisement would work as part of the interest but not as collateral.
1390  Other / Archival / Re: 2 BTC loan for 2.25 BTC back in 30 days or less + free advertising on: April 19, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
I'm bidding on some auctions and need some extra capital. I own several high traffic Bitcoin sites that earn 2-3 BTC profit per month as well as other reliable income sources.

As an added bonus, I will give the investor a Free Banner advertisement on our blog http://www.bitcoinbarrel.com that gets 50,000+ visits per month. This banner will remain on our site until the loan is paid back in full.

Loan amount: 2 BTC
Amount to be repayed: 2.25 BTC
Repayment date: May 20, 2015
My address: 149H2rXc4YS31i9SRM1p4cXLycDn6iSwHe

Post your address for repayment along with transaction id.

Can you offer a valid collateral? I will fill this loan if you do. I really doubt someone will without it.
1391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Having problem with unconfirmed transaction :( on: April 19, 2015, 05:39:21 AM
hey this is now 3-4 days my transaction still unconfirmed

https://blockchain.info/tx/23a22df9ff13d51b13c7d4264cc132b04ce587dc3ca306fa5ea076887cedb9f3

is there any way to put transaction fee now or remove this transaction from my blockchain wallet ?

or can you predict when it will confirm ?

What wallet did you use to send this transaction? Has the transaction changed any information (such as date/time) at all? (that could mean the TX is being re-broadcasted).
Normally a low priority TX without fees (like this one) is deleted after a few days (depending on the client). If that doesn't happen you must prevent it from being re-broadcasted as first option or you can try spending the same input on a new TX with fees.
1392  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 1 Loan on: April 19, 2015, 05:26:28 AM
Will repay 1.04 on july 1st from sig payment. I will tell my home address it guarantees me.

my addy 1JeNPjKdqnZpd9RNR8CwqcyCVLbDWeG37W

thanks Smiley


You can't be serious. What collateral are you offering? Read this and include a valid collateral or cancel your request and lock this thread immediately before you get negative trust (too late): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0
Pro tip: The lender can't sell your home address for more than 1.04 BTC when you default your loan.
1393  Economy / Auctions / Re: Senior Almost Hero Account for sell on: April 19, 2015, 01:57:22 AM
I forgot to ask, can you sign a message from an addy posted here atleast 6months ago?

I am open to do anything needed but I don't have any knowledge regarding adress signing i pmed you maybe you can help me out with this.

Has the account you're selling posted a BTC address on an unedited post at least 6 months ago? Do you have the private key of that address? Those are the conditions for you to be able to prove ownership via a signed message.
Also what is the minimum bid increment? Will the auction be extended if there's a bid on the last minute?


I would need to go trough my old posts to see this. The account is nearly 2 years old. Is there another way to prove i own it? by private messaging the winner when the sell is over?

I realy want to say yes about the last minutes biding but as long as it fit in the 72 hours. I dont want to cheat anyone on this.

72 hours is the biding limit and I won't extend it , it's not really a fair move to do don't you think?

I recommend you to go through the posts and find a posted BTC address whose private key you control. Sending a PM only proves you control the account now but it's not a proof the account wasn't hacked. Most people won't bid without that guarantee.
I don't think extending the auction if a last-minute bid happens would be cheating as long as you decide to do so now and not when the auction is close to end. But it's up to you, just decide the rule now.
You didn't specify the minimum increment to bid.
1394  Economy / Auctions / Re: Senior Almost Hero Account for sell on: April 19, 2015, 01:45:29 AM
I forgot to ask, can you sign a message from an addy posted here atleast 6months ago?

I am open to do anything needed but I don't have any knowledge regarding adress signing i pmed you maybe you can help me out with this.

Has the account you're selling posted a BTC address on an unedited post at least 6 months ago? Do you have the private key of that address? Those are the conditions for you to be able to prove ownership via a signed message.
Also what is the minimum bid increment? Will the auction be extended if there's a bid on the last minute?
1395  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [beware] plomonster is an alt of scammer on: April 18, 2015, 06:04:32 PM
Where is the solid evidence? You need to first give proof that he has scammed any user here. BTW, he is an alt of which scammer?
I will pm you the evidence.

You're doing it wrong. Post all the evidence publicly for peer review. Of course nobody will leave a negative feedback on that account without knowing whether or not it's really an alt of a scammer.
Read this and try again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0
P.S.: Do not PM me.
1396  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] $200 worth of bitcoins on: April 18, 2015, 04:02:36 PM
You will have trouble finding someone to accept paypal as the transaction can be reversed even if you use escrow.

Right - that's why I don't use it. The protection it offers me is zilch, zero, nada...  Grin  


Escrow prevents that one side doesn't send at all (that's why you won't use it, so you can scam). It doesn't prevent charge backs.
1397  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] $200 worth of bitcoins on: April 18, 2015, 03:39:57 PM
Hi i really needed a lot of bitcoins since yesterday and i only have paypal.
i heard about escrow? if you're not comfortable with paypal, please give me the instructions on how to transact with escrow. thanks!

Escrow doesn't prevent charge backs. Try offering a non-reversible payment method or use virwox as I already suggested in your other thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028202.0

Also don't create several threads for the same trade. If the amount or other condition changed just update the same thread.  Read the rules before posting.
1398  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [wtb] .025 bitcoins with PayPal on: April 18, 2015, 02:57:12 AM
By all means, name just one person I've scammed.
I haven't been able to scam anybody yet.

In the meantime Until I manage to scam at least one person I'll keep offering the best PP to BTC prices trying to scam on this forum.  Wink

Fixed it for you Smiley
1399  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] $30 worth of btc on: April 17, 2015, 11:33:03 PM
Also beware of scammers that may contact you offering to sell BTC for PayPal as long as you send first because "you can charge back the payment if they don't send the BTC". That's a known scam. They will keep giving excuses until they withdraw the money so you may not be able to charge back.

I can do this for you, no problem
  ^ Here's an example of what I was saying. He will ask you to send first and he will never send you the BTC. Then he will give excuses to earn time until you can't charge back.
1400  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Damn3d SCAM for PREMIUM Spotify Accounts! BUYERS BEWARE! on: April 17, 2015, 11:28:12 PM
I see OP missed an important step that was clearly mentioned: he had to change the password and he didn't.
Now Damn3d please do respond, why is it required to change the password? Why do several people have access to those credentials? Are you selling stolen/hacked accounts?


I always ask my costumer to change the password/e-mail so they can feel more safer, you will have more control with the account, since they have random e-mail/password, never had problems with persons who followed the methods step by step different from what the OP is saying.

So it's just a suggestion? it's not mandatory?
If the emails and passwords are random does that mean that only you and the person who buys the account (in this case 00king00) have access to the credentials? So if his credentials were changed it means you made that change? In that case just send him the new credentials for the same account and stop changing it.
Or is it possible that someone (for example the person you stole the account from) has access to it and can change the email or password?


Note to OP: Update the "Amount Scammed" and any other fact that is not correct. If you lie all you get is losing credibility, I was very close to just ignoring you because of that.
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