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They probably used the hacked mtgox database, and yes, they are scam.
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Yes! Both of these songs would be awesome... someone please do it! I need a bitcoin... it could go viral ! I made this parody of "she's a maniac" for bitcoin last year: Bitcoin song: He gave us change (a dedication to Satoshi Nakamoto) ... The lyrics I wrote in a couple of hours and the vocals was dirt cheap... So basically, just write the lyrics! Once you got them all you need is to find the instrumental online and I'm sure you will find someone to sing it, and quality depending on how much you pay (or if you are really lucky someone on this forum got the talent needed), if it's good maybe donations will cover all costs... and we would have a great bitcoin song! |
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Tor could enable consumers to make purchases online with bank-issued cards or with systems such as PayPal, while also hiding their location. Login to PayPal with Tor = Instant limited |
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When I got banned from MB back in the day my funds where transfered to my bank account. Perhaps they still do that?
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I do not remember ever borrowing any money from you. When you gamble with money you don't have you are borrowing money. It's called gambling debt, and it can grow despite you never actually being handed over money, it's an obligation to pay, debt, or as I thought was an appropriate word "loan". Isn't borrowing money and loaning money basically the same thing? So if you get a parking ticket and don't pay it, does the court say that they gave you a loan for the ticket amount? That's different, as it's not a voluntary choice. Borrowing money to gamble is a choice and requires someone willing to take the risk that you will pay back the loan. But as I said in PM, maybe loan is not the right word to use. Would it be correct to call it just "debt" maybe? |
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I do not remember ever borrowing any money from you. When you gamble with money you don't have you are borrowing money. It's called gambling debt, and it can grow despite you never actually being handed over money, it's an obligation to pay, debt, or as I thought was an appropriate word "loan". Isn't borrowing money and loaning money basically the same thing? |
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I can hold the label of "scammer" for a lack of a better title, but scammers don't pay people back and work to change their lives. I didn't get paid back. Did you pay him something?   When people make bets, unless they use escrow, no party actually pays the other part before the bet has ended. When you said "paid back," the "back" implies that you paid him something, and are waiting for him to return the money, aka pay you back. If you haven't paid him anything, and he hasn't honored his bet, neither of you are better or worse off than you were before. No it doesn't. He has a loan to me and I am waiting for him to pay back the loan. I am worse off if he doesn't pay me too, opportunity costs. |
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I can hold the label of "scammer" for a lack of a better title, but scammers don't pay people back and work to change their lives. I didn't get paid back. Did you pay him something? When people make bets, unless they use escrow, no party actually pays the other part before the bet has ended. |
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I can hold the label of "scammer" for a lack of a better title, but scammers don't pay people back and work to change their lives. I didn't get paid back. |
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BR0KK: Imagine for a moment that you and another guy is playing texas holdem heads up tournament. You both have agreed to put $10 000 in the pot meaning the winner will receive $20 000 and loser $0. You win the game, then the other party says "haha I was just joking man! don't take it so seriously."... would you at this point still hold the opinion that since you didn't lose anything you did not get scammed?
Well, this is exactly what has happended here. The poker player who ripped everyone off is back and is trying to settle things. We'll see how that goes.
That's something i'll never do  Lets assume i do this: Real game: 1. Money on the table then we play! 2. No Money; no game! 3. Look at the guy offering the bet .... you'll see if he's capable of 20K bets! 4. Get some witness to ensure the bet (Someone you trust) 5. Maybe write something down with each party agreeing to pay up? 6. and so forth.... Stupid internet bet with troll kids: 0. Think first! 1. Don't take em serious! 2. Dont cry about a loss that you didn't have! So do I understand this right, if I am considered a "troll kid" (despite my identity and location being wildely known) I can promise people whatever I want on the internet and make any kind of bets and still not be a scammer when I default on all my promises? Nice, remind me to never do any business with you. Nope .... where did i write that? Highlight that please.... You made a silly example of a poker game and i debunked it... How on earth would one play like this? My advise: Just don't bet with them, and don't start crying if you lost nothing:) Let me quote what you wrote previously today in this topic: So the only thing he did wrong, was running a silly bet?
HOW STUPID TO TAKE THIS BET SERIOUS IN THE FIRST PLACE.... Did someone get hurt (besides mentally?); Did someone loose Money or BTC?
No?
If thats the only thing he did.... then remove the tag because he's not a scammer....
Whats you definition of a scamer? A scammer is someone who uses deception/trickery/fraud in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain. Did he gain something out of his bet.... I mean did he take money from bet partners? As I recall he didn't (or am I wrong here?) If he didn't then he's just a liar. It's called a failed scam. Just because a scammer doesn't succeed doesn't make him less of a scammer. |
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Looks like a great project, maybe something like BoxCryptor would work until they have added encryption. Will definitivly have to keep an eye on this one! |
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BR0KK: Imagine for a moment that you and another guy is playing texas holdem heads up tournament. You both have agreed to put $10 000 in the pot meaning the winner will receive $20 000 and loser $0. You win the game, then the other party says "haha I was just joking man! don't take it so seriously."... would you at this point still hold the opinion that since you didn't lose anything you did not get scammed?
Well, this is exactly what has happended here. The poker player who ripped everyone off is back and is trying to settle things. We'll see how that goes.
That's something i'll never do Lets assume i do this: Real game: 1. Money on the table then we play! 2. No Money; no game! 3. Look at the guy offering the bet .... you'll see if he's capable of 20K bets! 4. Get some witness to ensure the bet (Someone you trust) 5. Maybe write something down with each party agreeing to pay up? 6. and so forth.... Stupid internet bet with troll kids: 0. Think first! 1. Don't take em serious! 2. Dont cry about a loss that you didn't have! So do I understand this right, if I am considered a "troll kid" (despite my identity and location being wildely known) I can promise people whatever I want on the internet and make any kind of bets and still not be a scammer when I default on all my promises? Nice, remind me to never do any business with you. Nope .... where did i write that? Highlight that please.... You made a silly example of a poker game and i debunked it... How on earth would one play like this? My advise: Just don't bet with them, and don't start crying if you lost nothing:) Let me quote what you wrote previously today in this topic: So the only thing he did wrong, was running a silly bet?
HOW STUPID TO TAKE THIS BET SERIOUS IN THE FIRST PLACE.... Did someone get hurt (besides mentally?); Did someone loose Money or BTC?
No?
If thats the only thing he did.... then remove the tag because he's not a scammer....
Whats you definition of a scamer? A scammer is someone who uses deception/trickery/fraud in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain. |
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BR0KK: Imagine for a moment that you and another guy is playing texas holdem heads up tournament. You both have agreed to put $10 000 in the pot meaning the winner will receive $20 000 and loser $0. You win the game, then the other party says "haha I was just joking man! don't take it so seriously."... would you at this point still hold the opinion that since you didn't lose anything you did not get scammed?
Well, this is exactly what has happended here. The poker player who ripped everyone off is back and is trying to settle things. We'll see how that goes.
That's something i'll never do Lets assume i do this: Real game: 1. Money on the table then we play! 2. No Money; no game! 3. Look at the guy offering the bet .... you'll see if he's capable of 20K bets! 4. Get some witness to ensure the bet (Someone you trust) 5. Maybe write something down with each party agreeing to pay up? 6. and so forth.... Stupid internet bet with troll kids: 0. Think first! 1. Don't take em serious! 2. Dont cry about a loss that you didn't have! So do I understand this right, if I am considered a "troll kid" (despite my identity and location being wildely known) I can promise people whatever I want on the internet and make any kind of bets and still not be a scammer when I default on all my promises? Nice, remind me to never do any business with you. Nope .... where did i write that? Highlight that please.... You made a silly example of a poker game and i debunked it... How on earth would one play like this? My advise: Just don't bet with them, and don't start crying if you lost nothing:) Let me quote what you wrote previously today in this topic: So the only thing he did wrong, was running a silly bet?
HOW STUPID TO TAKE THIS BET SERIOUS IN THE FIRST PLACE.... Did someone get hurt (besides mentally?); Did someone loose Money or BTC?
No?
If thats the only thing he did.... then remove the tag because he's not a scammer....
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BR0KK: Imagine for a moment that you and another guy is playing texas holdem heads up tournament. You both have agreed to put $10 000 in the pot meaning the winner will receive $20 000 and loser $0. You win the game, then the other party says "haha I was just joking man! don't take it so seriously."... would you at this point still hold the opinion that since you didn't lose anything you did not get scammed?
Well, this is exactly what has happended here. The poker player who ripped everyone off is back and is trying to settle things. We'll see how that goes.
That's something i'll never do Lets assume i do this: Real game: 1. Money on the table then we play! 2. No Money; no game! 3. Look at the guy offering the bet .... you'll see if he's capable of 20K bets! 4. Get some witness to ensure the bet (Someone you trust) 5. Maybe write something down with each party agreeing to pay up? 6. and so forth.... Stupid internet bet with troll kids: 0. Think first! 1. Don't take em serious! 2. Dont cry about a loss that you didn't have! So do I understand this right, if I am considered a "troll kid" (despite my identity and location being wildely known) I can promise people whatever I want on the internet and make any kind of bets and still not be a scammer when I default on all my promises? Nice, remind me to never do any business with you. |
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BR0KK: Imagine for a moment that you and another guy is playing texas holdem heads up tournament. You both have agreed to put $10 000 in the pot meaning the winner will receive $20 000 and loser $0. You win the game, then the other party says "haha I was just joking man! don't take it so seriously."... would you at this point still hold the opinion that since you didn't lose anything you did not get scammed?
Well, this is exactly what has happended here. The poker player who ripped everyone off is back and is trying to settle things. We'll see how that goes.
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