You had too much draw on your board. Do you really have 100cm(3 feet) long risers?
If they are actually that long, your GPUs would pull too hard and that's why you had a burnout.
The length of the USB cable linking the riser to the "shortie board" that connects to the motherboard DOES NOT AFFECT THE POWER DRAW. That is NOT the issue at all. Backwards riser - possible but that more likely would cause the system to not power up at all. I'm more inclined to think there is an issue with the "add second PSU" adapter - one reason I like the B250 Mining Pro 19-slot MB as it has that part built into the MB and common-links their grounds the easy AND HARD TO MESS UP way. |
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Nope - I don't have a credit card at all.
My Bitcoin wallet keeps getting near-emptied via purchases from NewEgg though....
30 day RoI is a completely unrealistic FANTASY at that point - even the Vega 56 *IF YOU CAN FIND ONE UNDER $500 ANYWHERE* is still in the 80-90 day range mining Monero - when you can find one at all.
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The "high reported hashrate" is an artifact of how pools figure hashrate.
The orb is NOT CAPABLE of mining at 1 Mhash/sec sustained - the Gridseed "80 blades" with 8 times as many chips per "blade" (they had 2 blades per miner, 40 chips per blade) only managed 2.7 Mhash more or less per blade depending on how hard you pushed them.
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Whatever addresss your miner was pointed at while mining to the nicehash pool is the address that will get that payment.
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P.S. Is there any analog of nvidia-smi for AMD?
Not as such, though up to the 15.12 drivers you could do most of the same stuff using amd-config commands - but no "dashboard" display like the nvidia-smi -l command. |
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My experience is the following:
For ETH, the GTX 1060 3GB seems to be the best. I get 24MH/S for 75-80W (for around 200$) while with a 1070 I get 32MH/S for 90W (for around 400$).
Now if you want to mine ZEC for example, the result will be different, a 1080TI would probably be a better option.
You seems foolish buddy. GTX 1070 8GB card can be produce the 32 MH so you will be able to more income that card alone but if can get the electricity more cheaper in the sense we can make more money with that bro. Performance wise alone 1080 8GB card is better than 1070. You can check in any site you will find the information states 1070i is the best card to mine. It depends on WHAT you are mining. 1070 ti is the most efficient card at ZEC mining right now with the 1080 a close second (but worse on hash/$ at any setting and the 1070 and 1080 ti are both fairly close on best efficiency OR hash/$). For ETH the 1070 matches the 1070 ti hashrate exactly (same memory system on a VERY memory-hard algorithm) and the 1070 blows the 1080 completely out of the water - the 1080 ti beats the 1070 but not by a lot, making the 1070 by far the hash/$ leader of those 4 cards on ETH. SOME 1070 cards will mine ETH at 32 Mhash/s but many of them do good to get to 30 - but even at stock clocks they pretty much all do more than 28. But for $400 OR MORE they are not cost effective vs a 1060 3GB card that does 22+ for about half the cost, and they are not even CLOSE to cost effective vs RX 470/480/570/580 cards in the UNDER $250 range that can generally get to 28-30 Mhash (with BIOS mods) and are very close on efficiency. Then there is Monero, where the Vega 56 is the current king of hash/watt (though some of the NVidia cards can argue there) and *WHEN* you can get one at semi-close to MSRP the hash/$ winner by a LOT. Vega 56 is even beating those old "open-compute" refurb Intel servers on hash/$.... If you can find a Vega 56 for under $500, it currently has an ROI in the 85 day ballpark, and has been consistantly under 105 days for the last couple weeks. |
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On both the Zotac Mini 1070 ti and my EVGA SC 1070 ti cards, I use a power setting of about 105 watts (I vary this up to 5 watts either side to hit my "target total machine power consumption", with very small effect on efficiency), +200 core +700 memory using nvidia-settings. At 105 watts, all of my 1070 ti cards hit right around 465 sol/s for 4.4ish efficiency. 50% fan setting in a room that is 80F was putting the card temps in the low 50s (EVGA) or mid 50s (Zotac) as long as I wasn't putting the card air intake right next to the CPU on the motherboard. I'm not sure how nvOS settings compare to nvidia-settings though, I've NEVER seen a card that worked at all with +1000 in nvidiasettings on the memory clock. The memory speed DOES make a noticeable difference in hashrate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.msg23996225#msg23996225 for my initial testing under Windows - I never did figure out why the "60% TDP" setting in Afterburner was only giving me 103 watts though (it should have been 106). |
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Now you are playing a game of specific case. -One You are using mining MONERO as reference. -Two You are talking about the power consumption of the card only. -Tree you are only talking about the RX V56 -Foor you are talking about underclocked cards. Now go check my comments, You'll see me referencing RX Vega in general and the top number is for the 64 or the frontier edition OBVIOUSLY Also I've talked several times about total system power consumption with CPU Mining !
Both of the systems YOU pointed to were using 200 watts per GPU - AT THE TOTAL SYSTEM LEVEL.
You know, 800 watts for 4 GPUs or 600 for 3 = 200 watts per GPU?
Yet you keep pushing your 350 watt figure, then dare to question MY MATH?
YOUR OWN QUOTED SYSTEMS PROVE MY POINT.
I mean the math is easy 6000w/350w = 17 cards unless you are really downclocking and setting a very low power limite or using a custom bios unless you are not mining with CPU unless you are using 6 Cards or more per rig unless you are using platinum power supplies you won't increase the efficiency , if you do tho all this ! and with only Vega 56 No Vega 64 you might reach an optimal 180w per card or so! and then you might get to the 30 cards, this is A LOT of IFs
fully optimised rig without the CPU Mining ! At least read what I've said before and don't give me truncated replies that just being dishonnest. You have your answer in the part you are claiming. Also where are the answers to the points you were claiming before, OpenCL / Cuda and so on. I am not being dishonest. YOU are blowing off the facts I post in favor of "gaming" information that has been repeatedly shown to you TO BE FALSE INFORMATION. *THAT* is being dishonest. Try reading what I post instead of blowing it off IN FAVOR OF YOUR LIES. Unlike you, I HAVE been reading what you post - while you don't seem inclined to pay attention to ANYTHING I post, and can't even bother reading or paying attention to the few facts you have posted yourself THAT PROVE YOUR FIGURES ARE WRONG. People who are mining Monero on Vega are generally using the Vega 56 BECAUSE IT IS MORE EFFICIENT THAN THE Vega 64, and the FE is CRAZY EXPENSIVE like any "workstation" targeted card. I am NOT talking "power of the card only" in most of what I have been talking about - like THOSE SYSTEMS YOU YOURSELF POSTED. I am talking about underclocked cards BECAUSE THAT IS HOW VEGA MINES MONERO EFFICIENTLY - doing it any other way is BLOODY STUPID AND A WASTE OF POWER. YOUR OWN POST showed a system running 3 Vega cards using 600 watts at the wall - yet you KEEP POSTING THAT BOGUS BS 350 WATT PER CARD FIGURE as if it has any reality. I am using Monero as a reference because that is one of the very few coins that possibly CAN be mined by your SoC stuff, and it probably the coin it would be the MOST efficient at mining on - if I was using pretty much anything ELSE as a reference, your SoC stuff wouldn't be able to compete at all or even be on the same PLANET much less in the ballpark. |
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Perhaps I should specify more.
The filters I use are on the air intake to the ROOM - which uses 3 standard box fans (20"x20" filters are a PERFECT fit for those) pulling out of an "airbox" I built that sucks the air through an intake vent that is about 16" x 30".
With the triple fans setup, the real airflow restriction is the vent itself.
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How are you getting 21 cards to work on a motherboard that has 19 PCIE slots? Using some kind of spliter? If so, what kind? How long does it take the system to boot? Would any you that have gotten 19 or even the elusive 21 cards to work post the products you use in order to get it to work? I'd love to build a 19 GPU monster, but have been having trouble with trying to get more than 4 GPUs to work on the biostar 12 GPU motherboard. Thanks. 21 x P106-100  Gotta play with AsusTweakII now. I think they mentioned using M.2 to PCI-E adapter(s). And IMO 19+ cards is for bragging rights only - that's one HUGE loss of income if the machine goes down. |
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Hello everyone,
Newbie miner here, So I finished assembling my first mining rig and I'm currently testing and fine tuning it using one Zotac 1070 GPU before installing the other 5
I'm not sure but my results appear to be not so great, I got a maximum of 435 sol/s with 100 tdp but I'm achieving better efficiency at 75% TDP by getting around 3.50 sol/w
What's confusing me is that memory and core OC doesn't seem to have any impact on performance, i tried all sorts of combination and I'm only able to get a good control of Sol/s by adjusting the TDP only
I'm using Windows 10 with the latest nVidia driver, my current settings are:
Core: 1594 (+148)
Memory: 4360 (+557)
Voltage: +20%
TDP: 75% (112 watts)
Temperature : 65 degrees
Fan speed : 30% (Auto)
Hash: 395 Sol/s
I also noticed that whatever I do I can never push the temperature more than 70 degrees and I the fan never blew more than 50%, is there something I'm missing here ?
Is an efficiency of 3.50 sol/w acceptable or is there room to improve it?
Thanks guys
Undervolt, NOT overvolt, for better efficiency - or leave the voltage untouched and let the card TDP management deal with it. for 112 watts on a 1070 though, that's not a horrible hashrate. |
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My generic 8 slot was doing 7 Evga 1070ti hybrid. At 495 sols and a 1080 ti hybrid doing720 sols.
So I pulled the 1080 ti moved it put in the 8 th 1070 ti. And now no clocks work so I get only 420 sols.
Every card is saying vga driver not 1070 ti
I think smos need to update driver for the 1070 ti
If I swap the 180 ti back in I can clock all eight cards.
One says 1080 ti the other 7 read vga nivida. But I can do the clocks that give me 498 sols
Driver update for smos is needed
You should be able to update the drivers yourself - though I don't think there is an "apt" package for the 384.98 "supports 1070 ti" version yet, there is the "download it from NVidia and manually install it" option. 40mm M.2 drives seem to be going the way of the dodo - do the Onda and Colorfull boards have screw holes for 80mm? |
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So between the 570 and 580 what is the difference?
Also does it matter if its 4 or 8GB? Is the Dag file increase still affecting these cards ?
580 has a few more cores than the 570, so they usually run a HAIR faster on most stuff. It's not a big difference though, perhaps 1Mh on ETH at most. 8GB cards normally have faster RAM - 8 Ghz equivilent - where 4GB cards are pretty much always 6.6 or 7 Ghz equivilent ram speed - this makes a NOTICEABLE difference on ETH mining, commonly 2 Mhash. Tradeoffs are that the 580 is normally a little more expen$ive than the 570, and 8GB cards cost more than 4GB cards. R9 295x2 is an awesome ETH mining card - if you can keep that monster COOL. 500 watt TDP as I recall, and pushing high ETH hashrates needs BIOS modification and is going to soak a TON of power generating a TON of heat. It's is that generation's version of the Fury Duo - 2 GPUs on one card (R9 290 or R9 290x, I forget which offhand) with 4GB RAM for each GPU. I don't think it's worth DOUBLE the cost of a R9 290, due to the cooling issues - but it does make for compact rigs. It also counts as 2 GPUs against driver limits - the only thing it really saves on is physical slots. |
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Zotac Mini in the 1070ti or 1080 models (I don't have their 1070 mini and I have severe worry issues about cooling on the 1080 ti model) both work quite well - but I have no idea if the fans are ball-bearing so I'm not buying any more.
1080 is a little marginal on cooling if you push it but better than the blower-type cards by a nose, I've never pushed the 1070 ti version but it should be a tossup on cooling with the 1080 model given the identical TDP.
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No work on Vega support +XMR?
At this time there are ZERO working LINUX drivers for Vega. |
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My "less than 300 watts" IS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM as I have already stated that's "AT THE WALL" on a system that has NOT been optimised for power consumption.
That figure is NOT "only considering the GPU load".
It's also a very NON-OPTIMAL setup in general - ONE non-optimized GPU in an old high-power-draw SINGLE CARD system.
It would be nice if you would pay attention and quit trying to prop up your strawman "THE GPU eats 250+ watts to mine with" argument with lies while ignoring presented FACTS.
What facts you've presented ZERO Facts! While I've told you I can show every review of RX Vegas on the internet Gaming / Productivity / AND Mining even taking into consideration the lowest power consuming vega of them all mining a Vega with it system CPU at Load you get 300W+, if you change the power limite to 70% downclock the gpu and with an Intel dual core pentium doing nothing you might get the figure you are mention, a Vega 64 don't even dream about it. The very first link given on a Google search for "vega mining monero". As I already pointed out, GAMING reviews have little or nothing to do with MINING, and I have yet to see ANY mining review for Vega on Monero that came up with 200+ watts much less your CLAIMED 300+ for just the card. The FACT is that 6 KW will power a lot closer to 30 Vega GPUs including total rig consumption - and possibly MORE than that - than your TOTALLY BS 17 claim.
If that "130 watt" TDP figure I've seen claimed on one "how to build it" site is correct, that would put a 4 card Vega rig right close to 600 watts - for *40* Vega GPUs in 6 KW including total system draw - while still respecting the widely reported issue of trying to get more than 4 Vegas mining Monero in a single system at high hashrates.
Again what math are you even using  Serisouly it's just a simple division ! and what aload of misinformation you are giving and I'm being nice. Here bellow a fully optimised Vega 56 rig ! The Vega rig is consuming almost a 800W or a 1000W I forgot which which !! and this is a fully optimised rig
Here is another one 3xRX Vega 56 @ 600W without the CPU Mining ! (no BIOS Mod tho)
I mean the math is easy 6000w/350w = 17 cards unless you are really downclocking and setting a very low power limite unless you are not mining with CPU unless you are using 6 Cards or more per rig unless you are using platinum power supplies you won't increase the efficiency, if you do tho all this ! and with only Vega 56 No Vega 64 you might reach an optimal 180w per card or so! and then you might get to the 30 cards, this is A LOT of IFs Both of the systems YOU pointed to were using 200 watts per GPU - AT THE TOTAL SYSTEM LEVEL. You know, 800 watts for 4 GPUs or 600 for 3 = 200 watts per GPU? Yet you keep pushing your 350 watt figure, then dare to question MY MATH? YOUR OWN QUOTED SYSTEMS PROVE MY POINT. |
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My friends! Thanks for interesting in this topic! I am sorry I explained the project without the rest: I want to use solar panels in a sunny, windy and hot place. I live in a island and there is a lot of wind and sun! We use four big Diesel Engines to product electricity. It is mutch more nonsense to use megawatts for frac/Bcoins rather than low voltage, but free, for Monero or Zcash. I automated my OrangePi that it boot after the sun rises! The ARMBIAN should lounches the miner after boot. It boots with 5volts! I would like to mine some Altcoins ASIC resistant. But the only miner seems to be BFCminer. Please could anyone spend few minutes to tell me where I can find a miner for ARM processors? Many thanks and greetings from Italy!
One of strongest arm processors out there, thunderX cavium, does 51 H/s at 10W TDP (so pretty power hungry for ARM processors) ... (just for comparison, you'll need about 120 of your processors to get same hashing power as single Vega graphic card for mining monero) Closer to 200 to match a Vega 56 - mine is pulling about 1960 hash with very little work attempted at tuning it (I HATE WATTMAN!), and others have reported higher. |
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While I'm thinking about it - do your MSI 1070 ti Aero cards have a ball-bearing blower?
My research to date has been inconclusive, MSI hasn't replied to my direct question yet, and the ASUS variation on the same theme that IS ball bearing is out of stock....
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thanx for sharing the video
but i can point to the few points if I may
the cards - man, how you can even compare asus turbo and asus strix? from all cards you have there - there is only one card which worth its price - strix. it just much better for everything - clocks, noise, tempertures ad so on. if you will flash it with OC bios it will outperform all other cards you posted by 15%, for the same price!
and one more - the PSU, it just no need to pay this price for that psu. Take two 1KW Corsais for $300 and have 2KW of power instead 1.6KW for $400+
that's all)
I wouldn't go with Corsair - but a pair of EVGA G2 or Seasonic X units in the same price ballpark would work for me. My current B250 Mining Pro is running a pair of G2 850s and is specifically set up to (eventually) run 6 x 1080 ti before I add a 3'd PS and more risers eventually - and I got them on that Newegg sale at $109 each. |
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In my case, I've stopped even LOOKING at Gigabyte cards except the Aorus - way too many "dead fan" issues on cards at or a bit less than a year old, and had 2 of the ITX cards die on me last month.
They really got cheap on their fans - you have to BREAK the things open to even fix them as they don't have "oil covers" in the back like MOST sleeve bearing designs do and they are held together by a "sonic welded" piece.
I suspect I just found new long-term homes for the left-overs of the big batch of 92mm NMB Boxer fans I got at a hamfest years ago - which happen to soak the same .35 amps of the cheap Gigabyte fans, but I only need *2* of the NMBs for good cooling vs. 2 or 3 on the Windforce cards I have....
BTW - I blame Voskcoin's video for NewEgg being out of the EVGA SC 1070 ti right now.
8-P
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