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13821  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: March 31, 2017, 07:34:55 AM
In spite of the fact that there are a lot of bad news around bitcoin, I am sure that it is profitable to keep coins for a long time. I hope that the cost of bitcoin will increase significantly in a few years thanks to the popularization and growth of demand

What are the bad news about bitcoin you are mentioning? or maybe you are talking about bitcoin issues? Saving for a long time with bitcoin is going to be profitable, the proof of it are the charts, the history of bitcoin is good and we can say that it is very good if you will hold. It depends on how long you want to hold it.

Yes that's right. If you're patient enough, profit will come to you with btc. Just imagine if we've thought about this when bitcoin was just starting and we trusted btc that much. We could've been rich in the next 5years if we managed to save around 100 btc then

Yeah that's true if we just know bitcoin earlier way back then probably we are already rich but that's enough with the regret. We are in the current place where we know bitcoin lately and still it's not that late and if you are going to follow those follow that did hold a lot of bitcoins up to know, we will be having the same result with them.
I doubt if we will be rich now because I have a feeling that majority of us will just sell right away when we see a very good price.
Let's be realistic and move on, the past should be forgotten already and face the real situation now, I'm sure there are still more rooms to grow for bitcoin.

It's given that majority of us will just sell some of our coins but as long as the demand is high still we will keep some of it. And will keep on holding and do the same thing as usual of buying and selling, it's a normal thing already to us. If we see that the price seems to be low, then just sell some of it and when it's up after the long wait, just sell.
13822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 31, 2017, 07:20:30 AM
There's a chance that bitcoin can overcome PayPal but we are still far from it. But right now it's not going to happen as PayPal is being trusted by it's customers throughout the globe. And in bitcoin we are still few in this crypto transacting though there are a lot of transactions happening daily. People will still stick to PayPal.

Just one big mistake of Paypal could make them lose all their customer.
That will be the chance of bitcoin to takeover. Once the news spread that bitcoin can do the same thing as Paypal or even better it will be changed. At first I thought they are good services also, but as time goes by I got so regretful specially with the high fees that I paid which could be added now to my investment here in bitcoin. It is just too expensive for every transaction you made from them specially the cashing out to a bank.

That can happen but that's a "only if" PayPal will do a big mistake. But they are already in the industry for a lot of years and they've got millions of customers throughout the world. Also they can try to adopt bitcoin is they want but I don't think this is possible to happen but if it will, they can attract a lot of customers from bitcoin.

Agree. This one is a hard wall to break into.
My colleagues still use this kind of service whenever they do work which are online.
They say some of their works dont have any options but just Paypal.
I think that is the one that is lacking in those online jobs. It is the broad of option to where you could pick where your money goes.

Here in my country, base on my estimation 99% of the freelancers are still in PayPal and only 1% including me are into bitcoin. PayPal is really big and it's hard to be struck off by bitcoin and overcome it's industry. People are still trusting their service and they are one of the most well known, so I doubt this will happen.
This is just a plain reality because people do really love always on using regulated things by the government and paypal is quiet popular and already being used for how many years by most people who do make transaction online and it would really takes time for bitcoin to replace its place.

I'm not saying that just because PayPal is regulated by the government it made them popular, they became popular because they are the pioneer in this industry and up to now they are conquering the whole industry and leading it for several years. The only problem they need to do is they are becoming stricter now and that's leading their customers to look for something better like bitcoin.
13823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: March 31, 2017, 05:56:26 AM
hello guys,
is there any proven strategy to win at least $5 daily?
NO martingale rule please.
If the games is most depend on luck it means there is no proven strategy for you to obtain 5$ daily. Meaning, there's no guaranteed for us to win in the game in gambling world.

And for the games that are not depending on luck, you can do a strategy into it by simply applying analysis because most of the gamblers are loving that way. I suggest also that when you are going to play to gambling games that are depending on luck, don't use all your bankroll and don't bet what you afford to lose, bet a little by little.
13824  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: March 31, 2017, 05:41:24 AM
In spite of the fact that there are a lot of bad news around bitcoin, I am sure that it is profitable to keep coins for a long time. I hope that the cost of bitcoin will increase significantly in a few years thanks to the popularization and growth of demand

What are the bad news about bitcoin you are mentioning? or maybe you are talking about bitcoin issues? Saving for a long time with bitcoin is going to be profitable, the proof of it are the charts, the history of bitcoin is good and we can say that it is very good if you will hold. It depends on how long you want to hold it.

Yes that's right. If you're patient enough, profit will come to you with btc. Just imagine if we've thought about this when bitcoin was just starting and we trusted btc that much. We could've been rich in the next 5years if we managed to save around 100 btc then

Yeah that's true if we just know bitcoin earlier way back then probably we are already rich but that's enough with the regret. We are in the current place where we know bitcoin lately and still it's not that late and if you are going to follow those follow that did hold a lot of bitcoins up to know, we will be having the same result with them.
13825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: March 31, 2017, 05:18:11 AM
No! Gambling is a kind of being lose and being win. Gambling will make you not rich but rather make you poor in time, make you poor in friend and make you poor in you family. Its just a kind of thing that make you more addicted and make you desperate for it.


I have to agree with you but don't forget and we can't deny that there are people who are randomly becoming rich because of their luck. It's either they are accidentally winning with jackpots or lotteries. But I don't want to be discouraged and I'm happy for those people and I know that it isn't going to happen to my life to become rich with it.
13826  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 31, 2017, 04:49:35 AM
There's a chance that bitcoin can overcome PayPal but we are still far from it. But right now it's not going to happen as PayPal is being trusted by it's customers throughout the globe. And in bitcoin we are still few in this crypto transacting though there are a lot of transactions happening daily. People will still stick to PayPal.

Just one big mistake of Paypal could make them lose all their customer.
That will be the chance of bitcoin to takeover. Once the news spread that bitcoin can do the same thing as Paypal or even better it will be changed. At first I thought they are good services also, but as time goes by I got so regretful specially with the high fees that I paid which could be added now to my investment here in bitcoin. It is just too expensive for every transaction you made from them specially the cashing out to a bank.

That can happen but that's a "only if" PayPal will do a big mistake. But they are already in the industry for a lot of years and they've got millions of customers throughout the world. Also they can try to adopt bitcoin is they want but I don't think this is possible to happen but if it will, they can attract a lot of customers from bitcoin.

Agree. This one is a hard wall to break into.
My colleagues still use this kind of service whenever they do work which are online.
They say some of their works dont have any options but just Paypal.
I think that is the one that is lacking in those online jobs. It is the broad of option to where you could pick where your money goes.

Here in my country, base on my estimation 99% of the freelancers are still in PayPal and only 1% including me are into bitcoin. PayPal is really big and it's hard to be struck off by bitcoin and overcome it's industry. People are still trusting their service and they are one of the most well known, so I doubt this will happen.
13827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 31, 2017, 04:21:23 AM
It is nice to see that even without Dwayne Wade the Chicago Bulls can win against a formidable opponent. The Cleveland Cavaliers are really strong.
I guess they are eaten with their foul trouble specially Kevin Love.
It is not really an off night. The Bulls just got the good start and took a good momentum from that.

I'm not really seeing Dwyane Wade for this season as a competitive player anymore. He's getting old and he's far now from his old team and teammates. I'm thinking if he did played with Cavs against his former mate James and suddenly this results to winning, what he will be feeling? We know that Cavs came from lose too.
13828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 30, 2017, 04:32:02 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?

In my personal reason it is because of profit, hoping that when I play the games I can win this time. But sometimes, If I'm bored I played in gambling for fun and joy only. So it depends in my mood condition Wink

It is my reason why I gamble too, profit is my main reason why I gamble. And I just have fun while gambling whether I lose or win, that's more fun if I'm going to win. And if I'm in the same mood as yours, I don't intend to gamble because that can break my momentum of winning, I just don't want to throw my money away.
well some of us also play because of curiosity but most of us play because of chances to win easy earnings, playing it for fun since because everytime we bet we place our money at risk and its exciting waiting for the results its added different emotion whether we win or lose.

At first most of us are curious and we are going to play for fun. But after we experience that it's good to earn in gambling, we are going to aim for profit. This is the usual thing that's happening to all of us and it's been hard to control when we are going to aim in profit because it is the one that leads us into addiction.
13829  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 30, 2017, 04:05:11 AM
There's a chance that bitcoin can overcome PayPal but we are still far from it. But right now it's not going to happen as PayPal is being trusted by it's customers throughout the globe. And in bitcoin we are still few in this crypto transacting though there are a lot of transactions happening daily. People will still stick to PayPal.

Just one big mistake of Paypal could make them lose all their customer.
That will be the chance of bitcoin to takeover. Once the news spread that bitcoin can do the same thing as Paypal or even better it will be changed. At first I thought they are good services also, but as time goes by I got so regretful specially with the high fees that I paid which could be added now to my investment here in bitcoin. It is just too expensive for every transaction you made from them specially the cashing out to a bank.

That can happen but that's a "only if" PayPal will do a big mistake. But they are already in the industry for a lot of years and they've got millions of customers throughout the world. Also they can try to adopt bitcoin is they want but I don't think this is possible to happen but if it will, they can attract a lot of customers from bitcoin.
13830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: March 30, 2017, 03:55:09 AM
But I'm just wondering when do people will realize that gambling can never be the one that could benefits us, because the truth is, we could lose the thing that we can't lose to afford before we could be benefited by gambling.

They will realize it when they don't have something to gamble anymore. It's a life situation, when gamblers are experiencing winning and good fortune in gambling, of course who will stop them if they are going to stand and believe that gambling can make them prosperous. But once, their lives started to be miserable because of gambling they will learn the lesson.
i guess if they already attached doing gambling in everyday's life its hard for them to realized those loses because even losing a whole bankroll its just take sometime of thinking and after they found new resources they will continue and play back trying to chase back loses, really hard but its a matter of self cured if they really wanted to move away.

Well that's another thing because they will stand to their belief that gambling is something to be worth for earning one day. And it doesn't matter to them no matter how many pennies they will lose from it they will keep on trying to gamble again and again until they will reach a certain amount of winning which is their goal.
13831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 30, 2017, 03:43:47 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?

In my personal reason it is because of profit, hoping that when I play the games I can win this time. But sometimes, If I'm bored I played in gambling for fun and joy only. So it depends in my mood condition Wink

It is my reason why I gamble too, profit is my main reason why I gamble. And I just have fun while gambling whether I lose or win, that's more fun if I'm going to win. And if I'm in the same mood as yours, I don't intend to gamble because that can break my momentum of winning, I just don't want to throw my money away.
13832  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: March 30, 2017, 03:23:42 AM
In spite of the fact that there are a lot of bad news around bitcoin, I am sure that it is profitable to keep coins for a long time. I hope that the cost of bitcoin will increase significantly in a few years thanks to the popularization and growth of demand

What are the bad news about bitcoin you are mentioning? or maybe you are talking about bitcoin issues? Saving for a long time with bitcoin is going to be profitable, the proof of it are the charts, the history of bitcoin is good and we can say that it is very good if you will hold. It depends on how long you want to hold it.
13833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 30, 2017, 02:28:19 AM
There's a chance that bitcoin can overcome PayPal but we are still far from it. But right now it's not going to happen as PayPal is being trusted by it's customers throughout the globe. And in bitcoin we are still few in this crypto transacting though there are a lot of transactions happening daily. People will still stick to PayPal.
13834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 30, 2017, 02:15:13 AM
If you jump into trading without any knowledge and skills then there will be no difference between trading and gambling as in both cases you are depending only on luck to make profits which can be really risky so its always good to get into trading only after learning and gaining some knowledge about the market.

Yeah that's acceptable to consider that you are actually wasting your bitcoin and as well as your time, the same thing with gambling. As we gamble, we tend to aim for profit no matter how does the game goes if you lack of those things then in the end you are just doing the same thing.
If we think for those things which you mentioned then yes at that point we come together in gambling and trading. If a person will have knowledge and skills then there is no any risk in trading the same also happen in betting for sports in which if we have knowledge about the team and sports then we will win depending on our skills and experience.

If a person does have enough knowledge and skills with trading still there's a risk for it. We may not know that we are guaranteed to had good profit as we trade. As you mentioned with sports betting, look on it though we had exceptional prediction skills and analysis still we can't say that we have guarantee to earn a lot from it.
as long as you put your money on certain event you could always consider it as gambling , that's my opinion. in trading a lot of people believe that the market are really predictable if you do a lot of research based on many factors , then it wasn't uncertain as it closer to predictable with its analysis/research . but when you trading with zero knowledge and zero effort to do research you may have to consider it as gambling.

Yeah it's actually a real nature of gambling for just letting go your funds and hopes to win without any knowledge about it. Well it's just up to the person on how he can see the market of trading if that is gambling. Cos' there are some that treats trading as a nature of playing the market and it's a legit way rather than gambling.
that's true , when you just throw your money and hoping for additional money without have a little work in it , then it's completely gambling. when you trade just buy here and there without care on anything then it's completely gambling. trading are game of money indeed , but doesnt mean it's always gambling right? you should trade in proper way then you are pure trading not half gambling or even completely trade feel like gambling.

It's trading but you are in the nature of gambling because you are doing it not in the usual way of trading. Just like what you said, it's throwing your money away with that way.
13835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: March 30, 2017, 01:44:19 AM
Yeah I feel nervous and my hearts beating fast whenever I gamble with dice and watching my bet on a sports game. That's intense feeling whether I dice with a very small amount of satoshi, I just can't help myself this is me, get's nervous all the time it's like a jackpot round always for me. And while watching the team losing, that makes my heart beat faster.
13836  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: March 30, 2017, 01:36:49 AM
No, the fluctuation of bitcoin is the biggest attraction for all investors, traders and bitcoin enthusiast. Put that away and majority will get out and lose interest on bitcoin. The idea of its price that could go up to more than $10,000  is why people believe and hold onto it.

I agree that because of bitcoin's unstable price it is the one that attracts more new investors to come. And not just the possibility of bitcoin's price to pump up to $10k is what the people are believing but the price of it that can possibly go up higher than that is makes it more reliable and good to invest and makes it more popular.
13837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: March 30, 2017, 01:12:26 AM
Yeah I would totally I agree on you giving up gambling is not easy,
And I don't really know why for some reasons after I decided to quit and stay away from it I will just return after a few days,

It's truly hard to give up gambling, you can try it for yourself and see it with the results on your life. You can conquer it for a week, a day or two. But after that you'll realize that you can't live without gambling. The only way to resist gambling is by seeking help with the almighty God. You should be willing on it and you need to do it with application.
13838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: March 30, 2017, 01:01:02 AM
To gamble and to Invest are both risky. And of course I would rather go for Invesstment, because I like to invest in trading it is really mean profitable to me  if your just able to do it right. while in gambling most of the time players in the end fall in losses of money which is not actually good.

But gambling is riskier than investing because you know that you are taking more responsibility when it comes to investing which you know that you will make it better. Unlike in gambling, you are not going to take it very hard and you will be taking it on the lazy way of earning because you know that you can easier there.
i do not think that gambling is risky because there is a lot of people are earning money through gambling if someone are expert in gambling they will never face to risk in gambling and there is maximum people are earning bitcoin huge amount in gambling with lowest risk.
i think you are the first person who is saying that gambling is not risky, otherwise all other people  consider gambling as one of the most risky way of making money

Yeah, I haven't seen people that say this way. But if he think that it is not risky, then so be it. And if you're a wise guy you will go for investment and that will be your priority for earning. Once you are hitting decent amount, it's good to have some hopes that you can win good amount in gambling but don't do it on a daily basis, because it can make you bankrupt.
well said, doing it in a daily basis won't guarantee us profits a possibility to go and being bankrupt after long run, even pro gamblers are aware about possible loses they are just wise enough to lessen that risk likewise with investment those who understand can manage much higher profits from investment.

Since you had mentioned those pro gamblers or should I say professional gamblers. Most of them are actually rich already and they don't have something to do anymore as they are supported for their whole life with their own money. But most of them are wise and still they are investing into businesses which can add to their source.

And even if rich people loose in gambling they won't care as they are not depending on it for living and they also have other sources of income and as they are rich they manage to invest higher capital which also gives them higher returns on their investments.

It's actually just their past time so they really don't care if they will lose a lot of money on it. They are supported and backed up with a lot of business which generates money for them, it's just them that are just gambling for fun and a little bit of profit. And that's why it's not a big deal for them already even they choose gambling.
13839  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂ 🎁 7,000,000,000 bets promotion🎁 FORUM SOON on: March 30, 2017, 12:36:49 AM
That's a lot man and surely it generated bitsler a big profit. Can you show up the link for it? Casino's nowadays are competing with the highest wagering amount for their gamblers. 1 bitcoin from William isn't that a big deal if montecool wagred 2,576 already. It's like a token of appreciation.
Here's the post about Montecool that you're looking for. The profit was 25.76 btc to be exact might be even more if the user played different games.


Wow thanks for the link mate. I read the picture about his winning, it's not 25.76 BTC but it's 2,576 BTC base on the picture there. And it's his total wagered with his bitsler career. And Baryom, is generation and that 1 bitcoin is really a good token for him. I haven't seen casino's that are doing that type of bonus to their gambler/s.
13840  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂ 🎁 7,000,000,000 bets promotion🎁 FORUM SOON on: March 29, 2017, 07:13:11 AM
Guys there is one Legendary Member on bitsler and that's Montecool, who has wagered 2576 btc and Bayrom gifted he with 1btc. Imagine so high amount of bitcoins, they really deserve unlimited 5K bitcoin fsucet but I to my mind such players won't use faucet Cheesy When you already have wagered 2K btc, than 5K datoshi is really nothing for you, it's simply like a simbol.

That's a lot man and surely it generated bitsler a big profit. Can you show up the link for it? Casino's nowadays are competing with the highest wagering amount for their gamblers. 1 bitcoin from William isn't that a big deal if montecool wagred 2,576 already. It's like a token of appreciation.
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