PM's with spoderman:
Hello,
I am sorry if I have the incorrect person, however I do not want to do business of the forum so I do not want to contact you elsewhere.
I have reason to believe that you are selling a hero member on default trust for 4 BTC and a hero member with neutral trust for .25 BTC.
Can you confirm if you are in fact selling them, if they are still available, if these are the lowest you are willing to sell them for and if they are hacked accounts.
I apologize if I have the incorrect person.
Thank you for your attention.
Wow, you really get around don't you.
How'd you find out it was me?
I wouldn't budge from 4BTC at the current bitcoin rates.
The hero memeber was negative, and i sold it
I'd rather not reveal my sources or my methods.
Would you be willing to divulge the identity of the default trust account? I could agree that I will not share it's identity.
I'd rather not reveal my resources
fair enough. Are you able to prove ownership of the account via a signed message from an old, unedited post? Of course you would not need to provide such message until immediately prior to any transaction taking place
Pretty sure that would reveal my resources would it not?
I'm not interested in selling to a member who already owns tons of accounts and sells them for extremely high amounts, and then buys at low-ball offers. I know it's your business, but I rather be fair and sell to someone genuinely interested
Like I said it would not need to be provided until an agreement could be reached. If you are not interested in selling to me then that is fair enough
I'm not, thanks for the offer though.
Before I would be willing to make any kind of offer I would need confirmation that you can prove ownership of the account. This would mean a signed bitcoin message. If you only have a signed message transferring ownership to another account then that would be fine, however you would need to do the same with the 2nd account (either on or off the forum).
Don't worry about it then, either way you are getting the account, all this verification nonsense isn't required for an offer.
If you give me a valid offer, i'll give you the account FIRST. That's my offer.
Even if I have the account first I have no way to prove ownership unless you let me have control of the account for 3+ months prior to me sending payment so I can establish an address to associate with the account and confirm there are no ownership disputes.
I am not interested in buying a hacked account, nor am I interested in dealing in any accusations of selling/using a hacked account. I do not want to associate my reputation with such activity
I am Regular Guy on HF and I am NOT selling this account. I can confirm via PM that I am not selling it and that I am the owner of that account.
why was that thread posted? I was simply seeing how much these accounts would go for. Quickseller messaged me asking for a price on this account, and has now given me neg trust because I would not cooperate with him
Why wouldn't I cooperate? Blatant simple. I didn't even have access to any default trust accounts and if I did I would not have sold it but rather keep it to myself.
This thread is a load of garbage, anyone on HF can vouch that I've never sold an account that has been HACKED but rather built up on my own.
If I was the scammer, why would i come here and open up that i'm selling the account (which I am not)?
It's a stupid move, I'm here to be honest and that is what I am doing and I HOPE quickseller respects that.
This is utter bullshit, and I hope my neg trust rating is removed for something I am NOT responsible for.
I am not going to say how I know however there is evidence that linked you to every account being advertised in that screen shot except the default trust list account.
You sent me a pm with a specific account asking for an offer and when I asked if you could prove ownership (not for proof, but if you would be able to produce it) and your response was that you would allow me access to the account first and then you would have me pay you
I didn't show a link to soul on HF. i did sell a few newbie to Full member accounts as that's what I actually had access to, the default trust one was simply reselling from you
the method:
-- Sell for 4BTC on HF
-- Pay you 3.5BTC
-- Profit .5BTC
I'm sure you were selling a default trust account a while ago, right?
If you really bought that account then why don't you post from it, or at the very least PM me from it, or even tell me what you told me you were going to do with it
No, that is not what happened
This:
-- Person from HF pays 4BTC
-- I pay you 3.5BTC for the account
-- Give the HF person the account
No one bought the account hence you never heard from me
How do you explain the hero member, 7,000 post, 500 activity account that you are selling for .3 btc? That is significantly less then what I am selling any hero account for and significantly less then what I have ever seen a hero account sell for?
How do you explain offering to sell
Spekulatius while implying that it was hacked? (it was really more of an admission)
No, that is not what happened
This:
-- Person from HF pays 4BTC
-- I pay you 3.5BTC for the account
-- Give the HF person the account
No one bought the account hence you never heard from me
How do you explain the hero member, 7,000 post, 500 activity account that you are selling for .3 btc? That is significantly less then what I am selling any hero account for and significantly less then what I have ever seen a hero account sell for?
How do you explain offering to sell
Spekulatius while implying that it was hacked? (it was really more of an admission)
My friend combo'd it, i highly recommend you flag that acct btw.
I was only looking for a price offering so he could sell it.
Also, the hero member was a friends with neg trust and it was given to me for free if i could sell it give him a cut. i wasn't expecting anything more than .1 for it.
You essentially admitted the account was hacked.
Then it just so happens that a hacked account pop's up that was on default trust list? I find your explanation regarding the default trust account hard to believe. Either way that isn't why I gave you the negative trust, I gave it to you because you were offering to sell a hacked account.
No, that is not what happened
This:
-- Person from HF pays 4BTC
-- I pay you 3.5BTC for the account
-- Give the HF person the account
No one bought the account hence you never heard from me
How do you explain the hero member, 7,000 post, 500 activity account that you are selling for .3 btc? That is significantly less then what I am selling any hero account for and significantly less then what I have ever seen a hero account sell for?
How do you explain offering to sell
Spekulatius while implying that it was hacked? (it was really more of an admission)
My friend combo'd it, i highly recommend you flag that acct btw.
I was only looking for a price offering so he could sell it.
Also, the hero member was a friends with neg trust and it was given to me for free if i could sell it give him a cut. i wasn't expecting anything more than .1 for it.
You essentially admitted the account was hacked.
Then it just so happens that a hacked account pop's up that was on default trust list? I find your explanation regarding the default trust account hard to believe. Either way that isn't why I gave you the negative trust, I gave it to you because you were offering to sell a hacked account.
Yes it does, that's why i've explained because that was not me. I know it's hard to believe (just my luck right?) but the specifications don't match the hacked account.
I just wanted to see how much it would go for. Not my problem the guy got hacked, I didn't do it so why do i incur the neg trust.
How's that my fault
Like I said the fact that the hacked account popped up today does not have any impact on me giving you negative trust, it only has an impact on my timing. I was hoping to get more confirmation about the legendary account you said was for sale and the hero account you were claiming to be selling (that you now claim to not be actually selling).
Of course you are going to retract your story once you are called out.
He wanted a price before he wanted to make any verification, you wouldn't give me the price so how was I supposed to verify it.
I couldn't
I'm not retracting anything I'm just disappointed i'm involved in this mess when I have nothing to do with the OP nor do I want to harm bitcointalk. I never knew selling hacked accounts weren't allowed... I don't even know how to hack accounts.
I just wanted a quick buck that's it so i offered to sell the account my friend had. and now that's resulted into a -6 which imo is bullshit
I did not ask for actual verification, I asked if you were able to provide such verification. There is a big difference.
Don't worry about your -6, it will eventually turn into a -4
He wanted a price before he wanted to make any verification, you wouldn't give me the price so how was I supposed to verify it.
I couldn't
I'm not retracting anything I'm just disappointed i'm involved in this mess when I have nothing to do with the OP nor do I want to harm bitcointalk. I never knew selling hacked accounts weren't allowed... I don't even know how to hack accounts.
I just wanted a quick buck that's it so i offered to sell the account my friend had. and now that's resulted into a -6 which imo is bullshit
I did not ask for actual verification, I asked if you were able to provide such verification. There is a big difference.
Don't worry about your -6, it will eventually turn into a -4
I still don't see why I suffer the consequences. I didn't intend on harming anyone. Someone asked if I could sell his account, I came to your for an appraisal because you asked me about the account that was yours earlier on.
This is just a mis understanding, I don't think even a -4 is necessary. That mark is going to be on my name for a situation that didn't occur.
If you want, I can switch to your side and prove that legendary is hacked, to assist and prevent people from being hacked. I just want my trust removed.
You are kidding right? You want to prove the account that you tried to sell me is hacked?
Okay prove it is hacked.
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