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А в разделе Economics таким образом какую-то статистику собирали.
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Цитата вспомнилась. Кажется, с этого форума: Я лоханулся и взял кредит на первый и второй батч авалона. В результате погасил кредит, выплатил кредит за машину (чуть меньше ляма рублей), вложилился в ремонт квартиры и еще осталось на хлеб с маслом. Вот такой я лох. К слову, вот как падала доходность этих авалонов (синяя линия):  Если этот ваш знакомый так уверен, что попадет в левую часть графика, а не в правую — пусть дерзает, чо. |
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Надо смотреть на долгосрок. А в долгосроке пришли асики и апрель 2013-го. У нас конкурс на самую нефальсифицируемую теорию? Если бы ситуация развивалась бы не в рамках гонки вооружений, то не было бы ASICов в принципе. Предзаказы на асики авалоны начали собирать летом 2012-го. Награда уполовинилась к декабрю 2012-го. |
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Нет, это работает не так. Награда уже падала, но вместо того, чтобы держать сеть на том же уровне случилось эволюционно предсказуемое: гонка вооружений. А по-моему упала сложность и выросла цена:   |
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BTC withdraws are disabled right now.
And what's happening with MtGox price? Everyone is rushing to sell bitcoins and withdrawing fiat?
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Whoops, MtGox price dropped to $825. What's happening?
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Упс, цена на MtGox упала до $825. Что происходит?
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April 2013 happened and people got wind of cryptos and mining "free money". People wanted a piece of the pie, got greedy and now here we are. What most of them fail to understand is that the people who are "bitcoin rich" didn't do it by buying a crap tonne of hardware and selling the coins off as they were mined. They did it by mining intelligently and holding onto the coins they produced.
Mining crypto's was never a get rich quick type of deal, it's only become that once the average tech user got wind of it. It is no longer a group of people aligned with libertarian/voluntaryism ideologies. It is now rife with speculation and people who want to get rich quick.
But this is not making any sense here. The point is: there are too little GPU miners or/and there is too high litecoin price, so mining is too gainful compared with 2011-2012 situation. I mean, 7970 pays itself for 3 months and it looks like a great investment. And you tell this is because there are too many miners around. Am I missed something? And I wonder if litecoin price will drop until we'll have $1 profit per day from 7970 or AMD will produce another ton of 7970 and difficulty will doing up? |
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So, with 5970 I computed this and this. And compared to this and this it looks like GPU mining was a much less profitable in 2011-2012. $1-$2 a day for bitcoin mining with 5970 against $4 for current litecoin mining with 7970 and even more for DOGE and other multipool’s shitcoins. Besides, 5970 was expensive like hell. Today I have friends who bought 7970s and they are complaining about litecoin difficulty rise and "it's so damn hard to get graphic card self-paid (it requires a couple of months)". So, what's happening? We have some kind of "mining bubble"? Why am I not running into the store and not buying all of 7970’s?Could I tell my grandchild "when I was your age, I calculated hashes in one`s head both ways uphill" or something? |
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crazyates, you're awesome!
So, I'll choose 5970 as a best available option.
And one thing I forgot to ask about: how much did 5970 cost in 2011? I found a number like $1,000.
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Hi miners. I need to know what graphic cards were the most profitable in 2011-2012. I'm trying to calculate a mining cost for this period. Of course, I know the full list, but I don't know which of them were available for miners two years ago. Thanks. |
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My forecast:  |
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Это шутка такая?
Ни от одной петушиции на РОИ еще не было толка.
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Смотреть на индексы умирающего гокса, цены на котором сейчас диктует только желание игроков вывести оттуда средства, и делать на их основе прогнозы на день — это, должно быть, очень профессионально. |
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I think we should find a way to make gnuplot charts readable when there are 10 lines on it. I have the same issue.
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"The severity of Russian laws is alleviated by the lack of obligation to fulfil them", Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin said. I just hope russians will ignore all prohibitions about bitcoin. Who on earth can forbid sending a bunch of bytes as a new transaction?
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Our offshore IT company pays bitcoin to some of our contractors abroad, especially to those who are located in countries with strict regulations and capital controls.
It's about $20k-$40k of USD value monthly.
Also our shareholders receive 50% of their dividends in bitcoin and keep it as savings.
Just wrote a post about you.I hope russians will not be fought by russian central bank's FUD and will use bitcoin everything where it possible. |
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