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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can ETH make everyone poor? ETH price at $300 again soon? ETH bubble popping? on: January 26, 2018, 08:58:22 PM
If you think ETH is overpriced then all other alts are also overpriced. ETH is by far the most important alt since all ICO's are built on it. Don't really sure why you think it's overpriced, price went up like all other coins in last years run.

this makes no sense.

eth is at $100 billion.
how can an altcoin for $100m, $500m be overpriced like eth?
maybe they will be the next eth and you make x1000 like metaverse by neo founder is pretty good.
investing now in eth? even if there is no crash you will only lose against the market because every potential, every usage is already in the eth price thats why its so overpriced. but at some point the late eth investors notice they are only losing money against the market. 
142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: People paying $1200 for 1 Ethereum are crazy... You only get rich buying CHEAP on: January 26, 2018, 08:52:02 PM
i think people can still make a fortune if they find the next eth. metaverse by a neo founder is still quite cheap
143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: MisO69
Even so, who cares if we have nodes in space. We have nodes all over the world so anyone can get into crypto now. Sounds to me like a cash grab and that's it.

their mission is not just blockchain in space. its to bring space exploration, even space tourism forward. anything space with their spaceOS that like private companies, or even nasa can use.

its a non-profit foundation like eth, so i dont see how its a cash grab. they all put money in it and are very low key so far about promoting it (i wonder why)

also the people who visitted tim drapers space tech summit really seem to love what they saw about spacechain:

https://twitter.com/Gmoneycrypto/status/956400921260408832

144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 08:31:06 PM
Total supply is: 1.000.000.000

Price 0,4 USD

No circulatin supply available - but market cap will be for sure > 200 mio

I can imagine a x10 but never a x100 or x1000

market cap (circulating supply) might be under 50% of coins since its built for long term.

if their spaceOS gets used by a lot of companies, and even by nasa... i can see this blow up by far more than just x20

i am trying to find more confirmations by tim draper, i know i saw he mentioned it but i cant find it right now.
anyway, it does list tim draper as an ADVISOR anyway which i just noticed, so we cant really know how much
involved he is.

it is mentioned however at tim drapers space tech summit twitter: https://twitter.com/spacetechsummit
145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 08:05:47 PM
Is this actually backed by the team announced or is it a quick and dirty scam using their pictures and bio?
It was just released so I'm a bit wary.

yeah its real. both tim draper and jeff garzik have talked about this in their twitter and jeff
garzik also just was at the space conference talking about it. there is a video on youtube
of it.

146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 🥁🆓Will SpaceChain be the next x100? Its by Tim Draper/Jeff Garzik/ISS/SpaceX on: January 26, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
What wallets can this one be stored on?

qtum.

the qtum founder is also on their team.qtum is top20, i think spacechain might get bigger than that.
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Coins under $1 on: January 26, 2018, 04:18:09 PM
some good tips but i think the best project right now is spacechain:

nonprofit foundation like eth
backed by billionaires (tim draper)
tim draper not just invested he is also in the team! if you know that billionaires value their time over their money,
you know this is huge
they worked secretly on their project with a team of 50, developed spaceos, have the satellites ready already
best contacts to teslax and other space companies

still very cheap at only about $150m market cap (0.40$ a coin).

most people will be too lazy to quickly sign up to their two exchanges
and will need to buy it at $10 like eth last year when it hits coinbase
(where tim draper is invested), binance and so on.


148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
Drawing comparison straight away with Nexus may be unfair.... Nexus is not only about Cubesats, they have 3D Block Chain and TAO framework.... working relationships with Vector and SpaceX

I could not find much information in the website other than "Space" part.... Team will need to care explain about the planned features or at least a WP, in today's world WP is required to attract new money.

ok i check out nexus. they have a better website Smiley

they seem to have no billionaires and successful founders in their team. also their blog is very unfocused.
i tried to find some news about their business but they talk a lot about other stuff.

like they have a post "How To Become a Cryptocurrency Trader (Simple Tutorial)".... why is this on their website?
what does this have to do with their mission?

while for spacechain, they recently were at the spacetechsummit where lots of space CEOs were too.

nexus is valued at $320m right now, so spacechain is still cheaper despite its better team and connections,
and spacechain is a nonprofit foundation like eth. so i still would say its very different projects.

because one of the biggest factors for a companys success is not the idea. its the EXECUTION. and tim
draper knows how to get things done. he actually mentored the spacechain ceo. so they must be
very close.


Thank you for the info, where can I see the video of Tim Draper talking about SpaceChain?

you are welcome,i am just really excited about this and are happy we can all go in cheap still.

i am not sure there is a video of tim draper speaking at the recent spacetech summit
but there is some real (not paid) articles here mentíoning draper:
https://www.techinasia.com/spacechain-blockstream-blockchain-to-satellite
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14457758/1/tim-draper-bets-on-blockchain-in-space.html

and i think there is a nbc video where tim draper mentioned spacechain when he
talked about bitcoin but i am not sure i can find it again. he is on cnn,
nbc, bloomberg all the time so i am sure he will mention it often, especially when they
go full public, launch the satellites and have other big news.

one of the other TEAM MEMBERS of spacechain is also often on the news.
149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 🥁🆓Will SpaceChain be the next x100? Its by Tim Draper/Jeff Garzik/ISS/SpaceX on: January 26, 2018, 03:42:10 PM

I don't think so. You should have gone balls deep in Nexus instead! Cube sats, Quantum resistant, 3D blockchain, smart contracts + more...

is nexus your project? i couldnt even find any team members?
i heard of such projects before and they were usually either a
bit scammy or just a dream.

as for spacechain there is already videos of tim draper and jeff
talking about it / being in on it .... so spacechain is real and based
on a great team and need

https://twitter.com/space__chain

spacechain has been pretty much under wraps and secret,but their team of 50
has been working on it for a while, and spaceOS is ready already. i am excited we can
get in early. this is the ETH of space. the possibility is unlimited.

first satellites launch this year already, they already have the permissions.

its still only valued at around $150m and will go to a few billions easily.

people will cry when they see the price at $10 a coin in a few weeks...
and say "oh nooo! i should have taken the 2 minutes to sign up to the
two exchanges and get it for $0.40..."
and still buy.... because its still cheap at $10.... just like eth last year..

tim draper of spacechain also is close with elon musk and they also
have a members/supplier of international space station in their team
who did software and hardware for the ISS. it does not get more real
than this?

if you know any other coins with such high potential currently please
let me know as fast as possible i will love to check it out
150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ZOI] Zoin - Zerocoin based privacy - CPU - No founder's reward - 0.8.7.4 on: January 26, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
I am holding a pretty large amount of Zoin because it sounds so promising and is still pretty cheap. Are there devs working hard on this? Will this get something as the Wrath update which Verge got?

Does the Zoin team need any help?
151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 03:25:10 PM
What was the ICO price of this coin?

there was no ico. its a nonprofit foundation like eth. a couple of billionaires funded the
team of 50 and the work they have been doing so far like for the spaceOS and the 3
satellites that launch already this year. they will lanch from china as the chinese
gov already gave them permission.

as for the total supply its at 1 billion coins, so based on the current price of $0.40 thats
400 million $ market cap. but they already said there will be staking rewards, and other rewards,
and its built on long term. so probably only like 200 or 300 million coins or less will be available...
making the real market cap about 100-150 million $ right now.

thats very cheap i think so there is a lot of room to grow, this will be valued at a few billions
in a short while. for such a project with such partners. tim draper also invested
in spacex and he knows elon musk and many other people from space industry. this will
blow up easily. i dont see any way this will fail the more i research it. if you see any risks,
or know of any other coins right now with this great potential please let me know asap.
152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
I highly doubt this is not real we have seen 0 news from elon and the others about this project, I am quite confident with all the big shot people involved in this project (as it claims) the website and the email subscription and fraud prevention would be much more focused on, then issuing a lousy website that is copied from nexus 2015 mostly and launch it!


I am just stating my opinion in here sounds dodgy as fuck !

i agree the website is very retro. but because of the amazing team and their
contacts to press and space industry this will still go x100 this year.

its easy to see the project is real.... there is videos of tim draper and jeff
talking about it / being in on it ....

https://twitter.com/space__chain

this project is pretty much under wraps and secret, be happy we can get in early.
this is the ETH of space. the possibility is unlimited. we are space pioneers and
foolishly changing the world to make it better for everyone.

people will cry when they see the price at $10 a coin in a few weeks...
and say "oh nooo! i should have taken the 2 minutes to sign up to the
two exchanges and get it for $0.40..."
and still buy.... because its still cheap at $10.... just like eth last year..
153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: People paying $1200 for 1 Ethereum are crazy... You only get rich buying CHEAP on: January 26, 2018, 03:05:44 PM

That's the risk of crypto currency investment, sometimes the cheap coin even run for scam , it's not something new and people looking for a better offer. Ethereum with big market capitalization makes them feel it's secure to invest there and get some profit even not for *8 *20 or so, that's the reason.

I dont think many coins would still run for a scam in 2018. They can collect so much money nowadays being legit... there is no reason anymore for a scam. If they run, they wont collect anymore funds. If they stay, they make a lot more money. Some may be very lazy yes. Or incompetent. But scams? I am pretty sure some coins we see now that are going kinda well may have started as scam but people realized "why run?"

It was different in begin of 2017, 2016 when most coins had no millions like they have now.

Anyway, for ETH... Its an illusion its safe because its big..... If there ever is a crash of 90% then ETH will get valued at what its REALLY worth..... without all the people shilling for it... Without all the "experts" who want to push the price higher..........
154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can ETH make everyone poor? ETH price at $300 again soon? ETH bubble popping? on: January 26, 2018, 02:09:02 AM
Of course when the price of a coin grows so much so fast, there is always a certain possibility that it comes down almost as fast. Much of the short term destiny of Ethereum will depend on how Bitcoin will behave in the coming days or weeks though.

Yes why do we not have coins fully independant from bitcoin? its very odd.

155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: People paying $1200 for 1 Ethereum are crazy... You only get rich buying CHEAP on: January 26, 2018, 02:02:57 AM
I have also think along this line before but one thing that I have seen common is that most of the coins that has cheap prices are alway get dump  in a very high rate that most time clear one investment. I think coins with high market cap do withstand preasure from the market compared to those with lower market cap. Ethereum from  $10 this time last year to $1,078 as at this moment has done well and to me worth investment more than every other coins



yah but its only a good investment for you beause you paid $10. its not a good investment for those who buy it for $1400 a few days ago. it has no room to grow now.

something as SPACECHAIN will go x10 immediately when the whitepaper releases, the partnerships, the new exchanges, that tim draper is in it (spacex, skype) and the others. so people think ETH is safe but really its not. Spacechain is safe.

Same for waltonchain. its at almost a billion dollar now, but its still pretty low to many coins that are higher. because they have a good team too and patents.



You should check connectx this people is in space business for very long time already, they already have very good plan of how they will monetize their satellite constellation, not only for space storage but there is commodity trading platform already planned and worked out for their system once it is going live


Thanks, I check it out but its a little different. SpaceChain is a FOUNDATION like eth. They aim to work together with all space companies and bring space exploration, technology forward. That along with Tim Draper in the TEAM. They have very strong partners too.

Your project sounds like an interesting idea but also very risky.
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 01:35:58 AM
This project have same characteristic like some other satellite project out there, almost similar form and plan probably funded by same group of people or maybe individual that want to achieve same goal

spacechain got no competition, its completely different and one of best teams in whole crypto world. spacechain is ETH of space. there will also be an open source spaceOS, space dApps and much more. huge partnerships get announced soon probably spacex, maybe nasa. you see tim draper went into the TEAM of spacechain. not just as an investor. he is in the TEAM. they really believe in it. because they know it will be amazing and change the world.
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Top 5 Altcoins Under $10 You Need to Buy. on: January 26, 2018, 01:23:27 AM
Forget all what was mentioned, its all overpriced shitcoins people got cheap and want u tobuy in late now so they can sell the shit for high some day.

Guys please learn to DO NOT BUY THE BUBBLE.

I can only suggest SPACECHAIN which got SpaceX investor, hotmail, badu & skype founder, qtum founder and other great guys in their team and its currently at the lowest price it will ever be.

Its basically ETH of space but cheap. Only cheap can go up HIGH. It will cost ten times this when whitepaper, huge partnerships, spaceOS, new exchanges, new website, first satellite launches in world wide media are announced.
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are the coins that have a chance to go up as high as possible? on: January 26, 2018, 01:16:09 AM
Cardano, EOS are already very high.Its too late to buy now.

I suggest SPACECHAIN which got SpaceX investor, hotmail & skype founder, qtum founder and other great guys in their team and its currently at the lowest price it will ever be.

Its basically ETH of space but cheap. Only cheap can go up HIGH.
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can ETH make everyone poor? ETH price at $300 again soon? ETH bubble popping? on: January 26, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
Hawaii, you're forgetting one important thing. Whilst you might be right about ETH itself not needing the high valuation it currently has, ETH is essential in order to invest in most of those "moon mission" coins/tokens you are referring to. You need to buy ETH to purchase them, or ETH to use gas to transfer them. This is what creates its demand.

This is a good point but what I already see that there is many other platforms that can do the same as ETH. Crypto is a booming, always changing market in a (real) crash of the new economy stocks 95% of value got wiped out and its the big ones who lose the most because they simply do not hold the real business value. No patents. No proprietary products. ETH does have a good brand and the holders always praise it but if 50 great blockchain devs team up and create eth2 they can do a better product for 0,1% of eth price. Do you see my point?

As for WaltonChain in a crash, their patents would still be worth X billion, their contracts with some of the worlds biggest companies, sales orders for blockchain hardware... this would all still exist. So they would probably HOLD most of their value even if the market goes down 95%.

So if you always invest only in very cheap coins you basically cannot lose any money, for as long as you do not "buy the bubble". Currently I suggest spacechain, it will never be this cheap again, it got tim draper (skype, hotmail, badu, spacex), qtum founder and other great people. They know how to do business, how to win,this is not a team of 8 14 year olds as so often now in crypto.
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Insane Experiment: Turn $1000 into $20 Million with Elon Musk and SpaceChain (.) on: January 26, 2018, 12:16:19 AM
when the whitepaper release i can see spacechain go to $2 or $2.50
when they announce partnerships i see it at $4-5
when spacechain launch the first satellite in summer and tim draper goes on cnn and msnbc i see it go to $15-20

i dont see any way people will ever be able to buy it this cheap again
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