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141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trump vs. Biden is almost like Bitcoin vs Fiat on: June 09, 2024, 08:00:08 PM
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Lol fair comparison. Biden just prints money and never once supported Bitcoin. Trump has supported Bitcoin and is Republican which is more capitalist than Democrats. Republicans are also against printing money.

Trump used to hate Bitcoin before three weeks ago.

And today Republicans are not "capitalist" anymore--you need to update yourself on US politics.

And Republicans are not against "printing money" by which I assume you mean running fiscal deficits. Trump ran the biggest deficits in the history of the USA and said that if he were elected we would have run bigger ones.

You seem to have a 1990s view of the Republican party. I like that one a lot better too. But that isn't what exists anymore. Today the Republican party is the crazy one, and Democrats are the rational and stable ones.



I don't think Trump really ever hated bitcoin, do you have a source of this? He only stated that bitcoin was a threat to the US dollar https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57392734, which it is, especially to the US government & their interests in holding the world reserve currency. But since you can't beat em join em! The SEC was forced to embrace bitcoin in the form of ETFs so next stop is regulations & that is one thing that the Biden Administration is really cracking down on but I do not believe they have the average joe bitcoin holders best interest's at heart they just want to tax this shit out of any capital gains and I would argue that dems would try to put into law lots of policy that would not be helpful to crypto holders.

Trump started toying with the NFTs a few years back and was monumentally successful with his "Trump Cards" & I think that is one area that he began to change his mind. Along the way he realized that Bitcoin was catching on, and you can argue all you want that Biden was great for bitcoin and crypto with policies and how he handled the whole SBF thing in 2022 & all that but I would argue to say that Bitcoin is doing so great, partly, because Biden is such an awful president. This definitely had to play a role in the publics decision making to embrace it, simply seeing the US being pushed to a fork in the road due to terrible leadership bringing forth much fear and uncertainty as well as creating a lack of faith in the US dollar with unhealthy printing of currency & the current government's ability or lack there of to do right by the American people.

Its clear that Biden doesn't give a fuck about Americans he would rather see his own suffer with crazy inflation and down play that there even is inflation to help fund a bullshit war and do everything he can to fast track America into being a shit hole aka not securing the boarder aka forcing people to take a bs vax & penalizing Americans on their own turf & passing along a few $1200 checks to make them feel special, meanwhile he's writing checks for billions and billions of dollars to other countries & won't even hardly put a dime towards helping his own country by comparison. I think this has only caused Bitcoin to be adopted much more frankly because Biden sucks ass. That is one theory, & I bet you that I'm partially right here lmao.
142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin Spot ETF Investors Attracted $887 Million on: June 09, 2024, 07:47:43 PM
BTC has been on the hot seat lately, and today it's pushing ETFs to the top of the heap.
According to news reports, ETF investing has taken in more than $800 million in capital, which is a macro figure Why is it that ETFs are the only ones in the cryptocurrency ecosystem that have made an epic rise to prominence?
Let's analyze it from several angles 
First of all, as the first cryptocurrency to be listed as a backdrop, BTC is the only giant that has experienced a lot of bloodshed even before it grew up, which has also paved the way for its current status.   

Let's put it another way, is this a God-given destiny or is it being manipulated by invisible capital behind the scenes?  We don't know, but with the volatility of the cryptocurrency market and increased demand for digital assets, bitcoin spot ETFs have become the focus of investor attention. on June 4, bitcoin spot ETFs saw a one-day net inflow of $887 million, which was the second-highest one-day net inflow since March 12, when it hit a record of $1.05 billion. And with ETFs allowing investors to easily buy and sell bitcoin in traditional securities markets without having to directly hold or manage the digital asset , doesn't this this break the decentralized nature of it? As we've talked about above is this God's plan or is it the control of capital Is the peak of ETFs really shaping up as us investors?

You're talking about god's plan or invisible capital...wtf hahaha.

Money going into ETF is just people and institutions buying it through TradFi products. No different than people and institutions buying bitcoin itself on exchanges. Just another bitcoin market.

And the $887 million happened several days ago, on Tuesday. Wednesday was another ~$500 million, Thursday was $200+ million, and yesterday was $140 million or so.

ETFs have nothing to do with Bitcoin's decentralization, so not sure why you are even mentioning that. Bitcoin is not proof-of-stake, ownership of coins doesn't affect decentralization at all. With the upcoming ETH ETFs, that will indeed further centralize Ethereum, but Bitcoin is Proof of Work so it does nothing to Bitcoin other than increase adoption.

Perhaps the OP is referring to "paper bitcoin" and how it could potentially manipulate the BTC price like paper silver is manipulated by big bankers to affect the market value of silver? I'm not sure, purely speculation but that is what came across my mind while reading that. Surely the inflows are great & will help the prop the price up. One great thing is the sheer rarity of Bitcoin vs. Silver in this example. BTC clocking in at 21 Mil (less than that if you count all the lost coins) vs. an estimated 60 billion troy ounces of silver https://learn.apmex.com/answers/how-much-silver-is-in-the-world/ and I don't believe that even accounts for all the paper silver either, but i'm not so sure...
143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Breakout Alert! 🚀 on: June 09, 2024, 07:42:50 PM
Bitcoin is continuing its uptrend following the Elliott waves pattern. Currently, it's trading within a symmetric triangle pattern, which typically breaks in the direction of the prevailing trend. Get ready for a big move after the breakout
Bitcoin is currently on its eight weeks since after halving on April, and from records, Bitcoin usually takes off the 10th weeks after halving and this I think is why we haven't started to witnessing the explosive move in the price of Bitcoin we all are expecting. We are still into a range and won't expect much until we break out, Now we got rejected again at the level of $72k which has in the past couple of times acted as a strong resistance point. So, there are two now waiting for Bitcoin, Either we move upwards to break this $72k, or we go down to revisit the bottom of the symmetrical triangle formed before we will see another leg upwards.

Welp, we have made it this far and it hasn't gone parabolic yet but I like what I am reading here, if you're right then in the next two weeks we could possibly see a huge breakout that would shake the whole ecosystem into a state of euphoria and I definitely can't wait to see that happen again. Hopefully it happens sooner than later but all the more time to stack more sats to get prepared for the next hike  Cool
144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins do you own or have you collected until now? on: June 09, 2024, 07:40:20 PM
Looking at an old thread from 2011 that talked about how many bitcoins they have, it made me think that getting Bitcoin is very easy.
How Many Bitcoins do you own?

Most of them earn from mining, giveaways, faucets and some contests that give away Bitcoin prizes.

I know about Bitcoin and this Forum in 2016 and back then it was quite easy to get 1 BTC just by entering a bounty or contest.

Those who have been able to survive until now with thousands or even hundreds of Bitcoins that they have held, it is incredible.
But most people have sold it at a high price in the past, but if you add it up now, then it is millions of dollars that you won't be able to get easily.



They have 100++ in the past

Enough Wink

I will say that I've got 100 saved away in a tough to access location for a rainy day. Or you know, USD collapse.

-Garrett

Reading this makes me really upset that I sold 112 (all) of my BTC a couple months ago for only $118...
Don't feel bad, I sold 5K for 1500€

Reading this makes me really upset that I sold 112 (all) of my BTC a couple months ago for only $118...

I've only been able to scrounge 10 or so BTC since then via mining... kinda depressing the more I think about it Embarrassed

500 or so. 

165. I'm down to half hashing power though since a card pooped out on me Cry

About 583, after spending some on Namecoins. I guess it's a lot to some people but of course I'm greedy so I wish I had more.

73.51 + whats left on btcguild.com, not much.
I made them all(with pools)..

I can say i am happy with my profit

approx 320. Most in bitbills ;P



And now, How many Bitcoins do you have now or how much have you ever accumulated?

So I don't think many folks here would admit how many bitcoins they have or want that knowledge floating around publicly. Whoever was able to take advantage of those giveaways just for signing up and is an OG definitely made out alright, but I think its naive of you to post this and expect that many folks will actually come forward here. For the ones that do probably already sold and got out of the game...
145  Economy / Collectibles / I'm surprised this hobby and genre of crypto collectibles isn't more popular on: June 09, 2024, 07:36:54 PM
With all of the coin collectors out there and crypto stackers I am very surprised that this space isn't shown more interest by these groups as well as the general public. Now this could be for a variety of reasons:

1. The general public just doesn't really know about crypto collectibles or hologrammed coins/bars etc. (i'm leaning more towards this).

2. People don't want to get scammed due to tricksters or rug pulls from shady makers copying the private keys in creation (definitely more relevant).

3. We are still very early and this space is still maturing & growing.

4. There could be other places online that people are publicly collecting & showing their coins/ products (less likely).

5. There is a lack of interest because collectibles are already a very niche space to begin with.

6. What am I missing?

Now there are some recent developments that I definitely won't downplay that are incredible so lets look at those bullet points

  • Stacks Bowers & Heritage Auctions
  • PCGS & ICG Grading crypto coins regularly - NGC with the one off Otto collection

Am I missing anything here above?


I am also curious where there might be other groups of collectors in this space outside of Btalk I will begin to list all I can think of (in no particular order)

1. Instagram
2. Redditt
3. Facebook
4. ebay
5. Youtube
6. Twitter/X
7. Scarce City
8. Discord
9. Telegram
10. AOL (LOL)
11. Other Forums


Any Missing? Thx to MinerJones & ChibiCty for the input - I think I will also add links to all of these.


Can you guys list any specific groups where there are crypto collectible enthusiasts or other lesser known populations of folks into this hobby? ....
146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A call to self-examining our gambling habit. on: June 07, 2024, 02:09:04 AM
Self examination is very important. It has been easy to immerse yourself wit gambling without realizing when it becomes problematic or addictive. We should regularly ask ourselves, how much time and money did I spend? am I having negative consequences?, do I feel in control? with these questions you can gain a clearer understanding about your habits whether there are red flags or warning signs of addiction. It's important to have self awareness to ensure that gambling remains as a form of entertainment rather than source of harm.

To add to simply just asking yourself these questions I would like to add that if one should simply write out the pros and cons on a piece of paper, as well as the money gambled, won, and lost, I think this will help this all feel a bit more real. Between that list of whats been wagered, won, and lost & the pros and cons about it I think it will help anyone make better decisions should they ever find themselves in a tough spot feeling the addiction taking over. At the end of the day you have to have the will power, self control, and the wit to know how to make yourself stop & take action! Always tell some folks you know in confidence to help you stay accountable & you will be one step closer to getting control again.
147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is going to place a bet on the Stanley Cup 2024? on: June 07, 2024, 02:05:49 AM
It seems hockey will be a good sports betting event. Not really fan of Hockey too since Im on asian countries which mostly supported betting event on basketball and maybe soccer. Btw what platform does hockey games can bet online on this which related to crypto and what assets supported mate?

You know what that's a great question m8, i'm not exactly sure. The only crypto gambling I do on hockey is going to be with a buddy off forum who likes to wager bitcoin with me and he happens to be an oilers fan so it just panned out for me in this instance I guess lol. But that still remains to be seen, I will try to find out for you!
148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Story of my life on: June 07, 2024, 02:04:18 AM
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the main difference is the way you see it

one believes that you think about something and then it'll magically reach your life
the other point of view considers that you think about something, your actions point in the direction of it and then you end up getting what you want.

same same, but different

it's like a manifesting? I mean, the more we think of it, the more we achieve or gain it, like if you want to have that thing, you need to think more positive thoughts about it and it will serves as a motivation for us to achieve that thing. so if the things that we keep thinking about are not good, let's stop because we might attract that thing even more and make it come true. Not sure if this is true but many have had such an experience.

the thing for me is that if I just think positively and try to manifest things from my room but don't move my ass to do stuff nothing will happen
I think being positive helps but it's definitely not enough
it's action that moves things in the world.

what do you think?

Action moves the needle. You can think all you want, but if you never take those thoughts into action they stay exactly that, trapped inside your head! Unfortunately this isn't exactly bringing the desired outcome one would wish to have with gambling, I think the trick is to actually believe that you will win! There was this study done that focusing on an object changes the circumstances of that object, simply because it is being watched! I found it fascinating- I will try to find this study and link it. As this relates to gambling I wonder what studies have been done on gambling and luck? 
149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you really want from gambling? on: June 07, 2024, 01:48:38 AM
It's a question I asked myself this evening while playing a Slot game on a telegram casino.
I asked myself this question, and was puzzled for a while because I was actually confused of what exactly to answer myself, I wasn't sure if money was what I wanted from gambling, or whether I was just playing to have fun, or whether I was gambling for both money and fun.

And honestly, I am still confused, because I've thought of money being what I wanted, then "what is my actual target?, what amount will be enough?" is the next question I asked myself, and I realized I didn't actually have any amount in mind, and this made me conclude that money wasnt really what I wanted, but it's not fun either, cus I cant have fun if I am not winning, like I would always say, " there is no fun in losing money".

So, I thought I should throw this question to the gambling community here, maybe I could draw some ideas from your ideas and contributions.

1. What exactly do you want from gambling? Say it, even if it's something you don't think is possible to achieve.
2. What steps have you take to see if you can achieve that which you want from gambling?

Or

Are you like me? Gambling with no sense of goal, direction?

Let's have a healthy discussion.



Perhaps it is just that you are bored? If its not for the money and you don't quite have a target and it is to no end then perhaps if you got some new hobbies you would find yourself doing something else other than gambling? Just a thought.

Personally I haven't taken many steps towards any gambling goals, its really more of a spontaneous decision and whenever I feel lucky. I can't really put a huge want on what I want from gambling other than to WIN!
150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling increases computer education. on: June 07, 2024, 01:27:03 AM
Each time I visit some physical betting shop in my country, I usually observe how some elderly people make use of computers. I live in a country where most people 55 years and above don't have basic computer education. Many of them cannot use the mouse, keyboard, or other parts of the computer. This might be because most of them have not been exposed to computer education.

However, the introduction of online betting has forced most gamblers in my country to learn how to use the computer. It is now common to see some elderly people using the mouse and keyboard effectively. Most of them have never attended any computer education class but learned through observation. Others might have gone through some level of training from family or friends. I am sure many of them wouldn't have learned anything about the computer if not for online gambling. What are your thoughts?

Well I think that its great that the elderly folks have mustered enough incentive to learn how to use a computer just to gamble. Surely since it needed to be learned in order for them to gamble maybe they will also gamble a little slower than most simply because they aren't as fast with a computer as the youth and so maybe that will actually end up helping them?
151  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] 566th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD-CYPHER HODL LOADED ฿ALLET on: June 06, 2024, 01:56:32 AM
Lets go with #34 thx m8!
152  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible to inherit a gambling debt? on: June 06, 2024, 01:24:19 AM
The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

Man, isn't that the opposite of leaving an inheritance? Maybe have to call that one an outheritance because they ain't getting squat but have to shell out instead when their dad dies. Especially if he was a POS gambler, its one thing if he was at least present and has a good relationship with their family but if he was a shit dad and a shit gambler then that's quite a double whammy. Whether or not it can be talked through in a court of law I think it just depends on the country and laws, i'm not so sure it would work tho I think most folks are tied to family debt and can't get away with it at least thats how it is in the US.
153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul to Fight Mike Tyson in Live Netflix Boxing Event - July 20 on: June 06, 2024, 01:21:08 AM
It won't be a problem if this hyped match is going to be cancelled due to health concerns of Mike Tyson.

It's more important than this kind of fight since he has proved himself very well during his prime.

As for Jake Paul, this is more of the entertainment that he's giving to his fans and I hope that Mike's welfare will be put into priority.

It's easier for them to just cancel the main event if Myke gets sick for any reason. However, it will be difficult to have another fight that draws the same amount of attention! They will have a lot of work to do to fix it if that happens.
Well, Jake knows how to market.

He'd probably just find another opponent that will draw close to that attention that this supposedly match had. But then, health of Mike should be the priority after all.

So, everyone agrees that it should be cancelled instead of rescheduled.

That could certainly happen to be completely canceled, but honestly there is a chance that Tyson will get his ulcer flare under control and then he will be able to train and fight, I would guess they would delay this a few months with updates in between. If anyone hasn't noticed Logan Paul, Jake Paul's brother has offered himself to take Tyson's place. I for one think it would be much more entertaining to see two completely wild brothers fight against eachother. One in Boxing and one in WWE I mean what's the worst that can happen? Just a little brotherly love at the end of the day but it could turn sour! I was seeing all this play out on their social media pages I guess Jake said whoever loses has to change their last name. Mom certainly wouldn't approve of that one lmao.
154  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gambling is a fatal mistake on: June 06, 2024, 01:15:20 AM
Actually I have an elder brother in gambling, he basically works in a private company. Received May salary on June 04/06/2024, he did not come home after receiving salary. Three sons one daughter and his wife live in his house, and he gambled all night and entered the house on the next day 05/06/2024 today morning after losing all the salary money. After entering the house, his wife asked him to go to market, he replied, I don't have money, wife said, you got salary, what did you do with the salary money? 
In this way, quarrels between the two gradually arise and when it becomes known in the society, it is gradually known that he has played gambling. And he went somewhere far away from home after the fight till now there is no trace of him and he didn't try to contact him till now. So I shared this with you because of how dangerous gambling is in the eyes of families and society. What could be the biggest reason behind this person giving complete money loss?


Could have been pressure to gamble, maybe they got him drunk and he wasn't in his right mind. Maybe he had tremendous debt that could have had serious consequences in his life. I mean the possibilities are endless without actually knowing for fact. That is surely unfortunate and definitely time for this man to find a different profession. I can't imagine coming home to your family after being gone all day and all night, especially on pay day just to tell them we can't get any foods or basic necessities because I was completely irresponsible and gambled it all away. That type of condition especially if it is publicly known is very shameful to oneself.
155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is a fun activity but it has some potential to be profitable sometimes on: June 06, 2024, 01:11:04 AM
From the title of the topic it's clearly that I'm someone who considers gambling a fun activity but I can't ignore the fact that for some people gambling is quite profitable as well. I'm referring to very lucky ones as that some people because most of the gamblers get inspired after hearing their stories.

I've made some profitable bets especially in sportsbook but I won't consider those much profitable because the bets I have placed were of low value and that's why the earned profit was also low. Most of the profits were with very low odds and that's why I just ignore those profits and enjoy the fun part of gambling.

I must say that I'm not among those lucky ones and haven't yet made huge profits in gambling but I want to know that do we have some of those lucky ones on this forum who have made exponential profits in gambling? If yes then kindly share your gambling story to inspire others.

The best thing you can do is enjoy it, because at the end of the day its just money, unless you bet your whole house and have a serious gambling problem. I would say my best come up was like $500 on one game and that is Jody high roller for me considering that I am not as much of a gambling man and I do gamble very conservatively. So with that in mind I would say that in my own experience it is exponential for me lol
156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Who is going to place a bet on the Stanley Cup 2024? on: June 06, 2024, 12:50:41 AM
Check out this Stanley Cup Final preview from Yahoo: https://sports.yahoo.com/stanley-cup-final-preview-edmonton-oilers-vs-florida-panthers-schedule-predictions-how-teams-stack-up-and-more-110059841.html


With the stakes so high for both teams who will rise to the occasion and reign victorious? Canada hasn't won a Stanley Cup since 1993 despite having a few final game appearances over the years from various teams. The Florida Panthers have NEVER one a Stanley Cup although their close by neighbor team has won the cup multiple times!

I definitely have my money on the Panthers & plan on placing a bet for this weekend! Do you plan on placing a bet? If you do what will you wager?

157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lessons from 50 Cent's Adoption of Bitcoin for Album Sales 10 Years Ago on: June 03, 2024, 05:28:08 PM
June 2024 makes it exactly 10 years since 50cent told the public that he was going to accept bitcoin as payment for his new album, "stay with the times". This was in June 2014. According to news reports, he made 700 bitcoins. His bitcoin holding is worth more than $7.5 million.
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Rapper 50 Cent has said he is accepting bitcoins as payment for his new album to "stay with the times". The In Da Club singer, whose real name is Curtis Jackson, is promoting his first album in five years, Animal Ambition: An Untamed Desire to Win. In a Reddit AMA the singer said: "Technology is what's changing the business gotta get with it. I take money no matter if it's coins or dollars." It is thought Jackson is one of the first artists to accept the digital currency. Bitcoin magazine said: "There could not be a better combination of innovation in music and payment. We look forward to seeing which other musicians follow suit." Jackson has been unable to live up to the success of his first album, Get Rich Or Die Tryin's, success.This ultimately led to his departure from Interscope Records and Eminem's Shady/Aftermath. He has since found a new home with Caroline, the independent label at Capitol Music Group. But Jackson has sold more than 30 million albums and has starred in a number of films. Animal Ambition can be bought at shop.50cent.com using BitPay, a payment service which handles bitcoin transactions. One bitcoin is currently worth around £430.


What are some lessons to learn from this.

  • If you want to stay relevant in a rapidly changing industry, DYOR and  don't be afraid to accept new technologies.
  • Do not restrict yourself to only one payment option when you can offer diverse payment options and then attract a broader audience thereby meeting the preferences of different customers.
  • As an artist or business person, take advantage of innovative trends and align yourself and brand with it which can enhance your brand's image as forward-thinking, modern and progressive.
  • This is almost similar with the first point but different. One of the strategies to repositioning yourself in the market is to adopt new financial technologies especially after significant career changes.
  • If your brand and business is innovative, it can generate media attention and serve as effective marketing tools.
  • Bitcoin is gaining global recognition and acceptance worldwide in various sectors indicating its potential future role in mainstream finance.

You can add more lessons you think can be learned from this story.

Honestly great quote and way to keep track of this anniversary. I think the same can be said for AI and despite all the criticism using it to help you somehow prop yourself up for future gain. I keep seeing all these AI trading bots and stuff and I’m still trying to figure out The Who what when and where to get this set up so I can get myself out of this fucking rat race man, I’m so fucking over it and I want out. I want my time and my day back, AI could be the way! DYOR is what I have been focusing on finishing to figure this out. If I figure it out I’ll make a post but if someone already has this insight please let me know Smiley
158  Other / Meta / Re: Lol on: June 03, 2024, 05:22:55 PM
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?



Wow, this is actually pretty hilarious. From human to AI , and AI to AI to make the final output sound more human like lol. Isn’t that a trip. This day and age we live in man. I’m just holding out for the day the humanoid AI robots come and they can make a robot clone of me that can come in and do my job so I can go golfing every day. I predict this shall happen in my lifetime, hopefully I get rich tho and won’t need to lmao
159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Hacks, Rug Pulls Led to $473M Worth of Losses in 2024: Immunefi on: June 03, 2024, 05:19:03 PM
Article Content: The article from CoinDesk highlights that in 2024, crypto hacks and rug pulls led to losses amounting to $473 million. This data comes from Immunefi, a security service that monitors vulnerabilities in decentralized finance (DeFi) projects.
Source: coindesk.com

Need to quote the actual link dude not just the website it came from. I would argue to say that figure is peanuts compared to what the actual figure is factoring in ransomeware hacks to corporations and individuals.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't forget to HODL your BTC on: June 03, 2024, 05:14:39 PM
Title.

Whales are going to start selling like last cycle.

Don't fall for the trap. Don't sell unless you absolutely have to!

Bitcoin is freedom. Do not sell your freedom. Hodl it until fiat becomes less popular than bitcoin. Give it to your grandkids if you have to. Do not sell your freedom.

EDIT: Made some changes to calm people down. 🧡


Amen! HOLD on for dear life and don’t let go. Bitcoin is going to continue to rise given the track record and the prosperous future being laid down before it with all the new adoption. Don’t only hold but try to gain more, find new ways to accumulate more, be creative!
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