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141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling bad to the society? on: June 13, 2024, 09:32:59 PM
I completely would agree with you, gambling is not bad for the society, already many sees it as a fun fact to engage in but yet their are those who also abuse it by making it their source of income or getting addicted that ends up draining every penny they have, some might even end up selling off their properties while some will also take loans just to quench their taste for gambling and this has brought about the bad opposition from the society.
Gambling is bad for some in society, and it's bringing about positive change for others too. In the same society, everything is based on who the gambler is and their level of composure.
 
If it's for those who have gambled almost all their lives and have used it as a means to generate wealth but rather end up losing the little that they have, we can consider such people as the bad eggs we have in gambling. 

Disadvantages and advantages exists in every thing in life, even the best of the world have disadvantages. Gambling is one good activity with too many disadvantages. Which have affected the perspective found around it in every society. Not all gamblers find gaming as a bad activity themselves, of which they're all parts of the society. It's quite too huge a dispute for gambling to ever be compared, as a nice habit in the view of ordinary people; non-gamblers. Good news doesn't travel faster than its opposite. Added to the fact that gambling addiction cases occur most often in the society, people are not expected to hear good responses about gambling. Yet, it doesn't remove the fact that gambling also consists of good effects to the responsible players.
142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling increases computer education. on: June 12, 2024, 10:01:07 PM
You are contradicting yourself because we are almost saying the same thing. I agree that the reason why most gamblers are now proficient in computer use is because they have access to it in gambling houses. So, it will not be wrong to say that the presence of computers in gambling shops contributes to computer education indirectly.
We are not saying the same thing because you are talking about gambling but I am talking about another thing but generalizing everything. Which means if gambling is not existing, but as computers are more used today, there would be more computer literacy among people. I have seen many people today that are now old or above 50 years of age but are not gambling but are able to use computers and phones.
it is a determination of any individual to make each choice of what he likes I don't know but I've seen someone who is 80 years old but it's continued to participate in gambling so that is a personal decision and the personal choice of anyone some persons retired in gambling when the cross 60 years some persons to gamble Until Death The Party them on Earth so gambling and the making use of computer it is a personal choice of living it is not necessarily a duty it is what you you feel like to do so I've seen many people from my own understanding and my own Theory Who participating gambling but they stop participating in gambling when they have noticed a lot of losses

Talking about the usage of computer it's better to remind us that phones, calculators, laptops are all computers. And the gambling house Op is talking about use the desktop computers or laptops to operate their business. If gambling wasn't done online, people would still use computer due to the widespread usage of computer across every society. Old people wouldn't miss out on this trend. Most of them use phone proficiently with no faults or mistakes.

While those who are using the computers found on gambling shops may be some old people who hardly use phones, many of them would still use computers for other purposes like education and research. Aside aged gamblers, lots of computer literates in same age category still exist and they don't gamble. Those people online gambling helped to learn how to operate a computer should only be counted lucky for being in a era where computers were now being used for gambling.
143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: June 12, 2024, 09:41:43 PM
I am interested in the main point in your idea above that losing is not the end of everything, because casinos always provide opportunities all the time for the gamblers involved, but don't get me wrong, I don't mean to motivate people to come back again in the next session, but I think this idea can make a gambler lower their emotions if the defeat they experience makes them emotional.

The point is to prioritize rest time, especially when you lose, because gambling based on emotions will clearly only lead you or anyone to a much worse situation, as you said, we can come back tomorrow, meaning there is still plenty of time. which you can use for gambling, but in fact, if for example you really feel disappointed then of course if you don't mind stopping completely then that is the best thing to do, but if not then try to train yourself so you can come to terms with defeat.

It's actually the difficulty of accepting defeat that puts most players in the dilemma of what to do while losing in a game. I wouldn't complicate this, it happens to almost everyone with some funds left out on their bankroll. Sometimes I would stop and after few hours I find myself losing again. When getting emotional for losing steps into the game, it's a sign of fatigue on the player's end. I do remind my friends about how tiresome gambling could be to players. Waiting for a whole day would fix the player back to the right sense of gambling. Without feeling weak and emotional he'd gamble with all his might and energy, in terms of decision making. The game then becomes enjoyable. It's not easy sitting in a position and gambling for hours. The body would get exhausted. Thereby allowing the player enough opportunity to make huge financial mistakes.
144  Other / Off-topic / Re: Know when to stop on: June 12, 2024, 09:25:23 PM
But the truth is that this set of people you are describing are very few in the Gambling world and by that I mean those that would and play with little amount and after they lose will also be contented and not trying to find another way to get back those funds that have been already lost. But those particular gamblers who understand this rules of actually having to pause are the ones that actually get some peace of mind when gambling because they don't take it more than it is.

It's a gradual process. Gamblers don't need to stress themselves playing a lot of games even when they're experiencing multiple losses. Stopping a session is not simple as a member said about. Easier said than done. Sometimes the game gets very competitive and how to end it would be a huge problem. In such a state, it's also crucial for the player to reduce the amount of money he wagers, at least this will help in reminding the player about the stoppage time. Maintaining the same pace would only cause the player huge losses.
145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The real winning of gambling is withdrawals on: June 12, 2024, 09:08:01 PM
To my own perspective, I would say that winning is not only when you cashes out your winning, it could be on the sequence of winning and the casino is taking it back.

Although that is strictly on the concept of when you are gambling for fun while the profit chasers are the ones who only accounts winning on their cashing out and giving account to what they utilizes the money on.

You picked the mistake most players forget to see. Whether you withdraw or not, it's same. The difference only points at the fact that players who take out some funds spend on other utilities. But, it's as good as spending your money it's not about the wins from casinos. Because, the same amount would still be deposited back to the house. Which shows that a player will continue to lose back to the house regardless of how they handle their winning. It all boils down to the fun part of gambling, that gamblers should embrace instead of bothering about how they will benefit from their gambling wins. Profiting from it only could be winning a jackpot and holding a long break. While we still gamble, nothing would be benefited financially.
146  Other / Meta / Re: Merit sources can join casino campaigns, it's a choice on: June 12, 2024, 06:20:50 PM
The only gambling board merit source application i have seen is this one, and as far as i know it hasn't been approved yet, so there is no merit source for that section.

From what I saw I don't think that's going to work I mean on the link you provided, the best thing is send someone to base on the gambling section to attend to quality post, if not then I think that section is on it's own. I don't know if the spamming is what's making merit source to abstain from the gambling board, I can't tell. But 1 or 2 merit source should throw some attention over to the gambling board and I think it will make members who post there to add some seriousness, there will be some improvement in that section if it happens.

For real, this will work, the gambling board is also a section of the forum. And it's weird to say that members of this forum who write well in other sections lose their writing skills when on the gambling section. Lots of good writers with nice contributions are on the section, but the conversation does not vary so extensively with other created threads. Which could be a good reason why most merit sources get tired of reading the section. Looking at it you'll notice how the gambling niche revolves around addiction, win or loss. Hence, they are no much new discovery on discussion that wouldn't sit on the three I mentioned above. So, with the involvement of merit sources on casino campaigns they'll most likely read through few responses on the board, and figure out the few ones eligible for merits. The efforts there shouldn't be tagged as wasted.
147  Other / Meta / Re: Make bitcointalk.org great again: Add a gaming board, already! on: June 12, 2024, 05:58:16 PM
First a gaming topic needs to be opened in the off topic section of the forum. Then watch if it'll become a mega thread. Nothing is unable to achieved here in the forum. If people are consistently building the mega thread and it ranks on Google, it'll attract lots of gamers to join the forum because of the conversation happening on the thread. I think that's a better start, then the admin could evaluate if they is enough space left for such boards to be implemented here. Truly, with such threads available the forum could be attracting gaming sites to advertise here. Thereby increasing the diversity of the forum under one umbrella; cryptocurrency. It would not be a hassle for a gaming platform to add cryptocurrency to their payment method for the purchase of weapons, and premium membership.
148  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible to inherit a gambling debt? on: June 10, 2024, 04:02:58 PM
However, if the loan is from a third party, for example a loan shark or cooperative, which has a loan agreement which states that family members need to pay the loan even when the borrower dies, then the family members or children will inherit the loan. And that is what usually happens in casinos, where they design the loan to be passed on to family members/heirs appointed by the borrower. And people like this who are in debt and pass on their debts to others are the type of people who are selfish and have no feelings.
I have never seen a situation where family members had to use money from their own pockets to pay off debt from a dead family member. It doesn't seem constitutional in any cases, because nobody can force third party people to honor their agreements, in case they can't. At least, not without the agreement of this third person as well on the moment the contract was signed by both parties. That is what we call guarantor. And only in this case the debt will be passed ahead, to the guarantor in this case.

Loan sharks are another story, though, because they can use illegal coercive measures to force family members to pay off debt, otherwise they will suffer the consequences... But that is something completely outlaw, so I don't think we could consider it a inherited gambling debt. In fact, people should call the police in these cases, so they can be protected against the loan sharks' threats.

Involving the police, does it sound like a way to settle the problem? The cops can decide to side the loan shark. Because his money is at stake and it'll be also injustice on the loan shark's end if his money is not given to him. I understand that people are not meant to pay for loan they don't know about, but they are better means of settling such matters.

Provided the loan shark has given out proof about the deceased person owing him, talking to him to atleast reduce the amount of money for the moarning family is the best idea. Trying to go it the aggressive way will only piss off the loan shark to take silly decisions. The loan sharks also take this steps of asking for the player's family contacts for the same reason. If the person doesn't come back to pay back or leaves this earth, they'll trace him to his family using the information he's provided.
149  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: June 10, 2024, 03:38:35 PM
Those who continue to gamble continuously will certainly experience problems in terms of their finances because it is difficult for us to be able to win bets regularly because in gambling only luck can win us at gambling and it would be better if we could limit gambling activities to avoid Financial Problem.
If you can limit the gambling activities that you do, of course this will be very good for you and also the income you have because as you said, it is impossible for a gambler to have savings or even have a lot of debt.
From the look of human nature you will notice that limitation is quite a difficult activity or something to maintain regularly due to how hard it is for gamblers to forget their lost money and focus on just enjoying the game. So at a time when people see gambling as it is a business they will try to run or participate in it as if they are running a business.  People believe that gambling everyday would yield them profits just like working every day. But, it remains the opposite. Consistently wagering money each day without limitations will only cause addiction to the gambler. However, luck can play a vital role while gambling, but it's hard to always be lucky.
150  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does addicted gamblers only lose money all the time on: June 10, 2024, 03:01:52 PM

I think that the phrase "it's okay that I lose at gambling" can only be uttered by gamblers who have an absolutely correct view of gambling. In gambling, if a gambler makes a deposit, he must understand that he has already given this money.
And there is no need to wait for this money back, and even more so for its increase. It's like money for an attraction: the ticket has been bought, and now you need to have fun.
This is the right critical thinking that will never disappoint a gambler.
Well it's a nice idea you've mentioned above and I understand the fact that some gamblers find it hard to recognize this idea due to the losses they may have incurred while gambling. It's quite obvious that after the money has been deposited it's  already in the bank role and the player still has the opportunity to win and as well withdraw his funds but on the long run players who are addicted don't have the opportunity to withdraw because they actually want to win multiple times even when they've won some amount. They're hardly satisfied with the amount of money already won. Hence, accumulating more losses is the only option left on an addicted player. As he'd hardly stop is gambling session after winning big or losing out substantial amount of money.
151  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gambling is a fatal mistake on: June 10, 2024, 02:44:35 PM

A gambler keep bet on gambling according to his income before gambling. If a gambler gambles without having an idea of ​​his earnings then it may not be possible for him to recover the money if he loses. When a gambler spends excess income on gambling, he is moving away from practicing responsible gambling. It is always suggested that up to 10 percent of the income can be used for gambling. But if one has few sources of income then he can use more if necessary it will depend on the financial situation of the gambler. A gambler can gamble with the money that remains after completing all his financial activities. But he must conduct gamble responsibly. Gambling beyond one's ability get oneself into debt.

Gambling on 10% of our income is quite a reasonable amount to wager in a month. Then whatever is gotten in the process via wins, can be added to the bank roll. Thereby yielding safety on the remaining amount from his salary. It's sad that most players spend out all their salary in a sitting. As you said, it's a sign of irresponsible gambling. And the rest of the month would require a debt to run the gambler's family. Which he'd also try to take out some amounts from the borrowed money to wager again. I think as gamblers being able to control how we handle our income on gambling is crucial. The embarrassment this causes to the player's family is very painful. Not everyone would be able to withstand the trouble of staying another month without any money.
152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling increases computer education. on: June 09, 2024, 11:17:38 PM
Well this isn't new to me anymore and I have also observe this in my area too because to an extent the level of exposure to the use of system to place their bets in the gaming shop is something that would get your attention too and I believe most of these person are all new to it because of their exposure to gambling.

This era revolves around computing, which is the reason most people always want to learn or utilize the computer at every given opportunity. Could remember when elderly people paid to be thought how to operate the computer. It all began this way and people needed to be advanced computer users to sort out their computing problems themselves. Looking at the gambling niche recently, you'd notice how fast people operate the computer, both young and old players.

You'd hardly see anybody seeking for assistance on operating his computer. Gambling actually helped in a way to help this people get more involved in using a computer. Because at their age, the old players, they don't have much reasons to use the computer. But, gambling activity still brings them back to the need of using properly a system. Although, many of them are only conversant with the gambling site, yet it still matters and validates Op's point.
153  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: June 09, 2024, 10:48:44 PM
A gambler may win big in gambling but it is not certain that they are successful in gambling. Despite owning huge wealth through gambling, they lost everything. There is no gain for the gambler in this kind of gambling. I think it's just a waste of time. It is very important for a gambler to learn self-control before gambling. The more patient a gambler is, the better he becomes at gambling. Winning in gambling is not easy but keeping those winnings is even more difficult. One should practice how to manage gambling by limiting urges and keeping complete control over oneself.
winning big in gambling has never ment success, some people do mistake it to be but they are two different things, its just one been lucky to have one gambling once at a time in the game of gambling but after which it becomes that they are successful if they are able to maintain certain kind of consistency with how often they get to win such games and sometimes the amount, winning once can even mean you were only lucky and may not get to win such amount again after then so most gamblers with a one time big win are only just lucky gamblers and not successful gambler, if you want to be a successful gambler, there should be a track record oh how well you have been able to win as much as you have been able to maintain as a gambler and probably the much you have been able to achieve from the wins too.

Gambling in a low or high financial state doesn't change what the game is going to look like. I have always thought about the difference of the rich and poor gamblers but still can't succeed in persuading myself enough to think that the rich win better than the poor. The whole scenario is simple. What you wager is the result you'd receive. Wager high amount, and lose or win big amount. Regardless of the known fact of gamblers who have won big amount going back to spend it on the casino again.

Nothing differentiates how players make their choices and the house being in control of how the results operates. Consistently maintaining a winning big strategy that works is not possible. Gamblers are only convinced on such matters of thinking that they can continually win big, because the house expect them to do so, and lose out the funds they've won.
154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: June 09, 2024, 09:14:49 PM

Experts are also humans so they are also subject with bias. They may have the knowledge but it doesn't mean they know it all. So if you want to feel better with your bets, better trust your own assessment. At least, if you lose, it is only you who you will blame. After all, you can't blame anybody else.

And no doubt, you should only bet to the sports you believe you have good knowledge about. If  you are just relying from someone else's prediction, better not to. You will only feel despair afterwards. At least, if you know the sports and you are rooting for some athletes, you will also enjoy watching the sports aside from the thrill of having placed your bets.


Experts don't have any advanced knowledge about gambling more than naive players. In terms of gambling results, nobody is an expert. One can become an expert when it comes to self control, money and time management, but convincing people to accept your predictions as the best and guarantees winning, is a false hope. Harnessing information on the way a team prepared for a match is vital, yet it doesn't make any much changes in determining who wins or losses the game.

The term "gambling expert" is just a name used in attracting naive players seeking for a fast means of doubling their money. If they can't achieve it themselves, an expert could be of help, they'll think. That's why most people who refer themselves as gambling experts will always get to find people who would pay them to predict games on their behalf.
155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you lost the money that you where supposed to withdraw from online casino? on: June 09, 2024, 08:50:48 PM
Every gambler has this story for sure. It's not only you OP that has been taken away from your supposedly withdrawal when you want to gamble more. That's the reason why many have already won but yet, they're being greedy and don't want to withdraw and still continue to gamble. The result? we all have the same result and story but the difference is the amount, some have huge probable withdrawal but due to their greediness, they've lost all of it. While for the others were only small amounts but it's still money that we've won.  Undecided

It's usually a normal experience to wager what we've won to the casino or house. Op is quite careful with his winnings that he withdraws immediately some part of his winnings. With the failed transaction it only led me wondering if Op wouldn't have taken some funds out of his bankroll, he may have wagered it all. In a simple way, if a gambler loses the funds he was meant to withdraw maybe for same reason as Op it means he's been chasing losses while waiting for the duration to elapse. However, withdrawing those wins only makes the player deposit more in future. That's why it's always important for a gambler to hold enough on the bankroll, then observe how he could endure staying without gambling for a while even when he has some funds on his bankroll.
156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you really want from gambling? on: June 09, 2024, 08:36:16 PM
My main goal from gambling games is to be a part of the casino and earn from the players not waste money on their games. Its like the sly fox who works in the back. This can be in the form on investing and affiliate marketing, both of which I have tried in the past and the first one has been very successful for myself without much effort from my side.

Hence my goal from gambling is pretty much complete but it will run for long as I can sustain or the casino can sustain and I will also try to increase my portfolio of investments on other casinos in the future.
The fact is weather directly or indirectly everyone wants to win in gambling activities because that is part of the goal in the first place. Although a lot of gamblers arguably have other reasons for Gambling like keeping busy during idle times, having fun or even reducing stress, winning is also a very important part of gambling in the first place as it is the normal human nature to crave wining as nobody likes to lose in the first place.
If you even come to think of it, a gambler who obviously isn't a gambling addict will quit gambling if he is loosing more often than he is making wins.

Probably, losing is nobody's option when it comes to gambling and any other real life activity. Many a times, I get to focus on hitting a specific amount of money before setting out on a new gambling section. But, it hardly shows up, as I tend not to get it easily. The goal actually differs at my end. It's just a mood thing, sometimes I gamble without caution depending if I'm weak and exhausted, but feels like to wager some funds. But, when energized my goal switches to staying careful and focusing on the most important strategy of all; responsible gambling. Yes, a gambler who has never won a dime will most definitely stop or quit gambling. But, if he's able to win few amount of money he'd expect profits even when he's losing.
157  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you feel excited while gambling on: June 08, 2024, 04:23:44 AM
Yes I feel excited while only when I understand the gambling I’m predicting very well, and I feel like my prediction is going to go right, so I have no other options than to be excited because I enjoy my prediction and it what I always do even when I’m less busy, when ever I go into gambling site I feel like I want to make the whole money in the world and at last I usually lose a lot that I don’t feel so much happy about, it not easy anyways, it is just an understanding

Losing in gambling puts players in a strange mood. Not every gambler would be capable to withstand multiple losses. That's why we always face some emotional thought about what led to the losses. It's more like going back to the game for the purpose of correcting a previously made mistake. It all accumulates if the gambler doesn't change how he wants to correct the fact he's been profusely losing in gambling.

That means you think the house has a lot of money. Yes that's true, but it's used for business purposes. Your last line made me understand how stressing it is to assume we would get rich via gambling. The energy required to gamble may be wasted on the long run if a player doesn't add any useful contribution to the betting niche by staying seriously responsible at all times.
158  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is getting addicted to gambling right or wrong? on: June 07, 2024, 08:29:21 PM
The answer to this question im sure everyone knows and you too, why woudl you want to get addicted to gambling when you know it could destroy you and wreak you finances.

Gambling addiction has cost some people their marriages , some children, some lives and many more, im sure you don't want to join the list.

I don't think that Op would want to be a part of it, that's why he's kind of sharing information or story to help others escape such a destructive life conditions. Many players who have done weird things due to gambling. Do so for their lack of consistent control on their problem gambling habit. Could a sensible person inflict trouble on his family and all that you mentioned above for gambling sake?

Nobody wants to be addicted, gamblers find themselves addicted when non gamblers begin to complain about their involvement in gambling. At some point let it be considered the player's fault, but the issue have affected other people who are emotionally attached to the addict into undergoing same stress and trauma. They can't let that slide without engaging in quarrels and arguments with the gambler.
159  Other / Off-topic / Re: Gambling is a fatal mistake on: June 07, 2024, 07:28:27 PM
Welp, In this case you can keep blaming the shit to gambling or you could have your older brother own up to his stupidity and admit that he made a mistake cause he sucks and he's got no control over himself. First and foremost, he got his paycheck and instead of going home he went straight into the casino? For what? All this leads me to believe that this is not the first time this has happened and that he has been addicted to gambling for a longer time than most of you know already. And it's just now that his bad habits and its effects are manifesting.

He's got to clean himself up and realize that he has a problem that needs fixing. He needs to become more responsible cause you can't be out here acting like a teenager with a lot of leeway when you already have a wife and kids waiting on you at home.

It's true that everyone have to own up for their mistakes. But when someone falls off the bike, people would help him get on his feet again. You can't do it all by yourself in some situations like gambling. Its true as you said that he have been suffering this for a long time before it got more obvious that his family began to notices his flaws. Imagine how long he's been battling this alone. Do you expect him to rightly come up to his family and tell them his inner battles? Not every addict does it, many wants to engage in the almost unsuccessful battle of solving their problem gambling alone.

160  Other / Meta / Re: There's enough merits, if hoarders aren't selfish. on: June 07, 2024, 06:41:22 PM
Even if the merit was to be given easily as if it were to be social media platforms, where everyone is a “like" source, it wouldn't go round. Merits circulates faster on this forum than “likes" do on social media were there are no merit sources. Anybody can like any post, but not everyone gets multiple likes. Why is it so? Don't forget that quality plays a vital role in today's world. Take the merit sources off your mind, it's not worth the worry. They owe no explanation to this.

No matter where you are. If your post is quality and engaging, people would send out merits. And the beauty of sMerit is that a single user can send multiple merits. A post can get 50 merits just from a single user. And sometimes a reader who genuinely got intrigued by a post may not appreciate it because they have no sMerit to give. They'll bookmark the post, some sort of, and merit once they've got some sMerit on them. What's my point?

Don't expect that a post that didn't get merited after 10 days of its creation wouldn't get merited again. A post can get its first merit after a month of its creation. Most times the post you don't expect to get merited tend to get the most merit. Like a staff said above, the post should be natural. Forum members are not bunches of bots, programmed to work in similar ways. Members have to relate to what you're saying before reacting through sending out merits, as an insignia for their interest on the post. Maybe it solved a problem they were just about seeking its answer on this forum.
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