cryptofrka's Merit Source application - let's improve the gambling boards

[cryptofrka]

Heya all,

not sure how this actually goes and how the merit source application should look like. I'll try my best here:

Who am I?

I'm a campaign manager (Cro2 team with Trofo). Together we run competitions (paid pools) in the gambling part of the forum and I spend most of my time there.
I'm a BTT member since 2018, constant DT1/DT2 member and 170. in the list of most recognized BTT users.
I write mostly in gambling boards (where I also work) and in the Croatian local section. We have enough merit sources there, so I'd spend most of mine in the Gambling boards.

What I want to accomplish

I want to do my best to improve the gambling section of the forum - to reduce the amount of spam and to encourage/incentivize meaningful discussion there.
A lot of members think that the gambling boards are the cesspool of the forum and it would be great if we could try and change that perception a bit.
Yep, it's full of spam and yep, people write there to fulfill their campaign quotas - but it's also the place of the forum where BTC is used the most - in pools, sidebets, etc.

It has some great topics and great conversations, but it isn't really a part of the forum in which Merits are given that often. By changing that, I feel that we can improve the quality of the posting there little by little.

How I'd like to accomplish that

I would announce that a new merit source is available there, exclusively for these boards, one that would merit interesting new threads/topics and meaningful conversations.
I hope that, by meriting quality, there would be more incentive for the majority of members to write something meaningful and interesting - because they would finally realize that they can improve their account rank in the gambling boards as well.

Examples of the types of posts I'd merit

* please note that I just collected these in 10 minutes or so - there are certainly better examples.
The posts that would be merited would be OP's of original and interesting threads and posts with some interesting infos/opinions.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460971.msg62599353#msg62599353
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438071.msg62734618#msg62734618
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461543.msg62625683#msg62625683
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461543.msg62657048#msg62657048
5. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330519.msg62697565#msg62697565
6. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406159.msg62723627#msg62723627
7. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462153.msg62734775#msg62734775
8. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249415.msg54973910#msg54973910
9. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458296.msg62493294#msg62493294
10. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288319.msg62713526#msg62713526

Final thoughts

Gambling boards are both a horrible place and a great one at the same time - depending on which threads you read.
I'd like to tip the scale in favor of the great ones a bit.

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[Little Mouse]

Can you please quote the post instead of just sharing the links? That's how everyone applies and that's what theymos asked to. It will be easier for him to judge as right now, theymos has to click all the links to check out the posts.

Anyway, gambling section requires more merit to be circulated. There's no doubt there are huge spam generated in the gambling section as people are forced to do so, but there are good quality posts too. Due to huge number of spam participants, quality posts get buried.
Supporting your application to get approved.

[Rikafip]

I think that its obvious for anyone that ever visited gambling board that there's not enough merit being circulated there so I am glad to see that you finally decided to make an application. Good luck with it and hopefully theymos approves it eventually.

Can you please quote the post instead of just sharing the links? That's how everyone applies and that's what theymos asked to. It will be easier for him to judge as right now, theymos has to click all the links to check out the posts.

There's no need to quote the posts, its perfectly fine the way he did it as there are at least two examples where members applied in exactly that way and their applications were approved meaning theymos didn't mind: Ratimov merit source application and dkbit98 merit source application.

[Huppercase]

Heya all,

Nice application, I included your thread application in my combined in one list of merit application thread. Merit Source pipeline applications (New and Old)

Good luck!

[logfiles]

I am in full support of your Merit Source application. Just like the Altcoin boards, the gambling board surely need some merit sources there. Despite the fact that there are so many clueless users who post in the mega threads, there are also some very knowledge members who share their excellent views in some threads. I believe their efforts ought to be recognized and perhaps this could help or encourage other members to improve on their post quality.

[Zoomic]

Wow!
I don't know if I am amazed at the topic or the topic creator. The OP is a very intelligent human being. It seems that there is a kind of unspoken rule that no merits be given in the gambling section. I have always said to myself that if I can be a merit source, I will distribute more than 50% of my merit allocation in the gambling boards. I didn't know that another person has the same mindset with me.
It is true that there are alot of spams in the gambling board, especially gambling discussion mega threads but there are still merit worthy posts that are often buried so fast.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Final thoughts

Gambling boards are both a horrible place and a great one at the same time - depending on which threads you read.
I'd like to tip the scale in favor of the great ones a bit.

Every board has there share of spam or generic posts and for those we think there are no spam in the boards they write, they should reexamine those boards and read through the threads there and they'll find many repeating discussion so nobody should think any board is a saint. I'm already familiar with your works and integrity that you have on the forum so you're good to go. I hope theymos look into this appeals and grant new source because it's looking like merits is begining to reduced or not circulating round the forum properly.

It feels like merit is saturated on some specific boards and you can't expect everyone to be knowledge on one board so people in other board's should be granted sources to take care of those boards. I also spend time in the gambling board (sport discussion) although we have lost of spams over there but there are some users that spend time to composed their posts and you'll know they aren't spamming but contributing to healthy discussion. No board should be overlooked, every board should be accounted for therefore I support your application cryptofrk, good luck on your application.

[letteredhub]

@cryptofrka this is a great move and hopefully if this application is entertained and approved it can influence and propel the quality of posts and discussions in the gambling board as members posting there will strive to generate healthy and quality posts/discussion so to attract the attention of a merit source to their post.
Those boards we claim are producing healthy posts and discussions are doing so because of the presence of merit source's allocated to those boards and every member posting their is striving to have his posts gain attention to be rewarded by putting in more work quality into their posts, and am convince same feat can be achieved at least to some extent if theymos make for a merit source to the gambling board.

[examplens]

@cryptofrka You have my support for your merit source source application, if my opinion matters to anyone. As far as I know you from the Croatian board, I believe that you will manage such an opportunity sensibly.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much the gambling section is a priority for this forum so it is necessary to improve it with additional merits. What I noticed on the part of theymos (or who already approves such things), through merit sources, they tried to strengthen the discussion in the sections about the Bitcoin talks and after that the local boards. Gambling is already represented well here, if we ignore the bounty section, it seems that more than 50% of the daily posts come from there.
Will this become a gambling forum?

[buwaytress]

I support this application, a second one I have seen recently and both users I know well from gambling sub.

There's certainly truth, from my anecdotal experience,  that merit is gained most outside gambling (and alts). While I believe I gain merits there now, the majority of my earlier gains, to make legendary anyway, were from Bitcoin-only sections.

I feel that is a good reflection of previous requirements for quality contributions to promoting and assisting, elevating Bitcoin use.

But as OP points out, gambling continues to be a major utility area for Bitcoin. Even beyond the use of it as a currency, gamblers using and transacting in Bitcoin lead to discussions about its technical aspects. Fee specifications, coin control, even signing of txs. I am certain it has become a perpetual gateway for new Bitcoin users.

OP knows gambling and the activities related, he would make a solid merit source in that board, in my opinion.

[1miau]

I'm not that active in our Gambling section but from what I've read there, a lack of Merit on that board is indeed a fact.

As a gambling regular and organizer / contributor to many gambling opportunities like ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐, cryptofrka knows very well which posts should be merited and in addition to that, cryptofrka is reading there a lot, so any additional sMerit is well spent there.

There's so much spam, so giving out Merit for quality posts can be a factor to encourage people to create better posts.
Our gambling section is really in dire need against Shitposters and their shenanigans.
I've tried to give out some Merit on that board but it's quite hard to wade throught the spam sometimes (well, it's always hard).

I believe cryptofrka will do a good job over there as a Merit source. 
+1

[Rruchi man]

I think that its obvious for anyone that ever visited gambling board that there's not enough merit being circulated there so I am glad to see that you finally decided to make an application.

It will be nice if this really gets accepted.

As much as there are many spammers in the gambling boards, and some forum member believe that gambling posters do not really post anything of value, there are still very many good topics there that are valid for discussion and deserve merit.

Cryptofrka regularly frequents the gambling boards, and he will be good to make a merit source for it.

I fully support his application.

[SirJohnVonSlotty]

I agree, frka would be an excellent choice for this.

[Pmalek]

I'm a BTT member since 2018, constant DT1/DT2 member and 170. in the list of most recognized BTT users.

We don't need to know your height, little one. Or if you want to tell us how tall you are, at least mention how much you weigh as well . Just joking, my bad.
The gambling board is definitely a sewer, and it's sad that it is. It has so much potential, particularly since gambling is a big use case of bitcoin and crypto. I hope that with a successful application and acceptance by theymos you can help to change that.

Thumbs up for cryptofrka!

[Trofo]

Gambling boards are both a horrible place and a great one at the same time - depending on which threads you read.
I'd like to tip the scale in favor of the great ones a bit.

Gambling board is in need of merit source and I have also been entertaining the idea to put out an application for merit source just for gambling. Granted I have been delaying for too long and you beat me to the punch. Fair game and you have my absolute support for what it is worth, I am sure you will do good job as merit source if/when your merit source application gets approved.

[SamReomo]

I also support the application of Cryptofrka's because he's very active member of the gambling board and there is need of a merit source on gambling board and gambling discussion board. There are many good posts on gambling boards that didn't receive the merits they deserve and I believe a merit source like Cryptofrka could support those posts by giving them the merits they deserve. Once again I support the application of Cryptofrka and I hope that theymos will consider his application.

[Upgrade00]

I do not frequent the gambling board but along with the altcoin discussion section it is one of those boards that require merit sources and more motivation for users to make quality posts. There are lots of spam posts there but that's same with every other board and there are also great posts there which mostly goes unmerited, which further discouraged quality posters.

Cryptofrka is a regular in that board and a good choice for a merit source to encourage the quality posters there.

Now we wait for the raffle draw by theymos and hope to make the cut.

[slackovic]

I want to support cryptofrka in his application to become a Merit source. I'm participating in one of the competitions that he and his colleague are running in the Gambling section and I have to say that they are doing a great job. Not that it's important for the application, but it shows that he is focused on making the Gambling section better. I'm not sure how many merit sources are in the Gambling section but that section definitely lacks in the number of Merits given to the users that deserve it. I'm sure that accepting cryptofrka's application would make that problem go away.

[BenCodie]

Disagree.

No one should be a merit source for one of the most unethical boards/sections of this forum. There is no shortage of merit for the amount of quality/merit worthy posts in the gambling section; which is very little in comparison to other, more important and non capitalistic boards of the forum.

I also think merits should not be focused on posts in this section. It does not positively contribute to the Bitcoin economy. It only concentrates wealth to unethical network participants who are exploring other users with unfair odds, ridiculous terms of service, extensive and intrusive kyc checks to ban accounts, questionable provably fair claims, and more.

My 2 cents

[Shishir99]

Disagree.

No one should be a merit source for one of the most unethical boards/sections of this forum. There is no shortage of merit for the amount of quality/merit worthy posts in the gambling section; which is very little in comparison to other, more important and non capitalistic boards of the forum.

I also think merits should not be focused on posts in this section. It does not positively contribute to the Bitcoin economy. It only concentrates wealth to unethical network participants who are exploring other users with unfair odds, ridiculous terms of service, extensive and intrusive kyc checks to ban accounts, questionable provably fair claims, and more.

What an irony. Yet you are participating in a campaign that promotes gambling. I do not see any reason why you would call it an unethical board/section of this forum. Everyone does not support unfair odds, ridiculous terms of service, or KYC checks to ban accounts. You are talking like whoever participates in the gambling section they are supporting those casinos.

If so, you are doing the same thing, my friend. Do you always see people visit the casino ANN thread and praise like OMG, this is the most trusted casino, please play here. People visit those sections to check what's going on On those platforms. They criticize platforms if they see something unfair. I do not see any reason why you are calling it an unethical board. Not all threads are casino ANN.