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141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whats goin on with Bitstamp right now?! on: March 03, 2014, 07:03:26 PM
How I feel trading this whale dominated Bitcoin market:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0qMT2YBIcg
142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whats goin on with Bitstamp right now?! on: March 03, 2014, 05:58:02 PM
700 @Bitstamp right now... o_O
143  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Why you shouldn't buy Hashfasts new "up to 800GH/s" "product" on: March 03, 2014, 04:51:17 AM
I'm also interested in getting in contact with other hashfast customers in the SF bay area.

I'm in the SF Bay Area, feel free to send me a PM. I visited their office in the past (and got lied to in my face as it turned out). I did receive my hardware in late January. It was not very stable but I've been able to iron out the kinks. No MPP of course, and looking at ~90% loss in BTC overall on this investment.

To be honest, I was just hoping HF would ship the damn MPP so I can leave all this drama behind me. I got caught up in too many scammy operations (Bitcoinica, MtGox, BFL, HF) and it is starting to leave a really sour taste in my mouth.

Bitcoin allow you to eliminate trust when it comes to the actual transaction but in the end you still have to trust individuals and companies so the sword cuts both ways. Arguably when it comes to pre-orders it just cuts your way.

So pre-orders and bitcoin don't mix. Off-chain custodial services (wallets, exchanges, ETFs etc) and bitcoin don't mix either. Looks like this is a lesson we all have to learn the hard way.
144  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 02, 2014, 07:08:12 AM
The phrase "up to" is an important part of the phrase "up to 800GH/s" and should not be ignored, but rather understood in context.

No one reading the Yoli EVO description will be "deceived" because the product page at

http://hashfast.com/shop/yolievo/

clearly states

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Maximum Bitcoin Mining Performance: up to 800 GH/s (with a proper cooling system)
Typical Bitcoin Mining Performance:  675 GH/s +/- 20%

The specs are what is called 'below the fold' - you need to scroll down and depending on your monitor size many customers will not even realize it is there.

This is what the average customer sees:



Deceptive. Just because you have been able to push it to 800 for a minute in a lab using liquid nitrogen cooling or something else exotic does not mean you should give customers the impression they will be able to run at that specification. Just be honest with your customers. Don't act like a slimy car salesman.

750GH/s is more than enough to claim the crown for The World's Fasting Bitcoin Mining ASIC.

750GH/s is at least 50% faster than Cointerra's (less than) "500GH/s" chip!   Grin

Really, is that what it is all about? Instead of this childish competitor focus, how about focusing on customers for a change?
145  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [GOX] A consensus network, or how to stop a big lose (fork it!) on: March 02, 2014, 01:07:41 AM
Bitcoin has value specifically because things like bailouts are not possible.

OTOH it is important that the majority of coins do not end up in the hands of a small group of malicious actors. For most people securing their Bitcoins is hard and opportunists/scammers/hackers have exploited this fact. The sooner we can make Bitcoin safe and secure for mainstream users the better.
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Markets not reacting to loss of 100s of Millions of $ is disturbing on: March 01, 2014, 10:29:53 PM
I also find it funny how ppl just say well too bad the gox clients will just have to buy their coins again at the current price. Um no, they won't fucking rebuy the coins no one will fucking rebuy coins, especially at the current rates.

This is like someone losing a ton of gold at a bank and then he's like oh OK NP let me just go buy another fucking ton , no it doesn't work that way cuz that person is depleted of money plus won't have the confidence for sometime to rebuy.

I'm just one datapoint, but that is exactly what I did in 2012 when I lost nearly all of my coins in Bitcoinica. I balked at the price (around 10 USD) and I did not buy as many as I lost but re-buy I did. (Of course, I avoid counter party risk like the plague now and keep everything in offline cold storage).

The reason I lost is because I misplaced trust in people, not because of a failure of the technology behind Bitcoin.

If you get scammed on the internet you also don't stop using it. You don't give up, you wise up.
147  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The US Govt stole your coins - not MtGox on: March 01, 2014, 08:51:25 PM
I think the truth will be a combination of factors including mismanagement, theft (malleability), price manipulation and government intervention.

I know many people here scream Occam's razor. But from my experience with Bitcoinica the rabbit hole goes deeper than you think and things only collapse when the situation has become an unrecoverable entangled mess. Government seizure would explain the majority of the 'temporarily unavailable' coins best imho.

We know the US and Japan governments work very closely when it comes to regulation. Also there are vested interests in MtGox failing:

1) Creating the need for government regulation - more power to DFS in NY. more power to lobby institutions like the BF.
2) Depressing the price so large (Wallstreet) investors can get in at ground 0.
3) Opening up new space for competing U.S. regulated exchanges to fill the void.
4) Creating FUD around Bitcoin to turn the public opinion against a technology that poses a threat to the existing power base.

The SR investigation is ongoing and already led to the seizure of customer BTC accounts in the past. It also led to the arrest of Charlie from BitInstant. And subpoena's to virtually every US business that so much a touches BTC (including Gox). Surely the FEDs had their eyes on Gox for a long time but has largely remained out of reach by virtue of them being based in Tokyo.

However, in May 2013 they were able to seize 3 US based accounts (1 Dwolla, 2 Wells Fargo) from Gox:

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In May 2013, through an interagency taskforce led by ICE in Baltimore, Maryland, three U.S. bank accounts associated with what was then the world’s largest bitcoin exchanger, Japan-based Mt.Gox, which was moving approximately $60 million per month into a number of Internet-based hidden black markets operating on the Tor network, including Silk Road, were seized for violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1960, operating a money service business in the United States without a license. The bulk of the funds were associated with the illicit purchase of drugs, firearms, and child pornography. As a result of the forfeiture action, Mt.Gox, which allows users to trade bitcoins for U.S. dollars and several other currencies, has implemented varying degrees of user verification for its customers. These and many other ongoing criminal investigations have provided ICE with a better understanding of the risks and challenges posed by virtual currencies. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2013/11/18/ice-statement-record-senate-committee-homeland-security-and-governmental-affairs

I would not be surprised if the FEDs have turned MtGox into a giant honeypot since then so they could actively monitor money flows. (And putting Mark under a gag order possibly issued by FISA in collaboration with the Japanese government). There is a precedent for this in SR where the FEDs also monitored transactions for some time before swooping in and seizing all funds:

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During the course of the investigation, ICE special agents identified bitcoins used by buyers and sellers to complete their transactions on the Silk Road site. The bitcoins, worth an estimated $3.6 million, were located in Silk Road's operating account and ultimately seized by the FBI.

Mark also mentioned he stores the cold storage funds as paper wallets in multiple physical locations. I would not be surprised if one of those location would have been in the US. (e.g. a Wells Fargo safety deposit box associated with their seized bank accounts). Mark also mentioned he uses RAID technology to store the private keys, so perhaps he was using split keys. That would mean that Mark has only the first half of his keys, and the FEDs have the 2nd. I.e. neither party can move the coins at the moment. This situation might have existed since May but only escalated recently due to the malleability bug that drained the hot wallet forcing Gox to fall back on cold storage that is frozen.

I could be wrong (and most likely am).
148  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: up to 800GH/s on: March 01, 2014, 07:38:03 PM
How come HashFast_CL doesn't have a red "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" under their name? What are you people waiting? They are not going to trust-rate themselves, you have to do it.

Fixed.

@HF - I'm willing to revise my feedback once you start treating customers as customers (instead of cattle to be milked) and live up to your promises. (Deliver on time, on spec. Honor MPP commitments). But that time is not now.
149  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: March 01, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
We are alpha testers for a product they are now finishing up and with those lessons learned, sell on to future customers

Yes, HF used us to fund and test their ASIC.

They have done nothing to live up their promises and leave us with buggy hardware while ckolivas has done a ton of work to improve it and an update should have been pushed out weeks ago. Not a word on their MPP. HF prefers to just ignore us and leave this thread to die.

@Simon Barber - I am really disappointed in you. We met early 2013 at a Bitcoin meetup and you won my trust and my business. On the hardware side I applaud the ASIC you have developed but on the business side you guys have proven yourselves to be no better or worse then BFL. You have done the Bitcoin community a disservice by pushing what remained of the individual miners out of the space.

150  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: February 28, 2014, 07:43:42 AM
Ask to buy some more hardware and see how fast they get back to you.

Well, everybody can just write them with some inane question about a possible hardware purchase and then, when they reply, say "Ok, so, while I have you, I wanted to ask about... [insert problems with existing orders here]."

I tried that and they respond with "I'm not authorized to discuss that topic but I will pass your request along and a representative will call you back". Nothing happens after that.
151  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Roger Ver : Gox "worst-run business in the history of the world". on: February 27, 2014, 03:42:06 AM
I'm sorry for your loss Roger. Losing 24000 BTC in a single day must be tough. Especially in the way it happened.

Isn't it clear to anyone who is paying attention?  Mtgox lost everyones bitcoins and didn't notice until 99% of them were gone.

Actually no that is not obvious to me at all. How do you lose everyone's bitcoins without noticing exactly?

152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People actually thought bitcoin was dead because of MtGox? on: February 26, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
Collapsed? That certainly is worrisome... No worries we will take a look and see what is wrong.

Please show me on the chart exactly where Bitcoin collapsed:

153  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: February 26, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
I guess the MPP strategy is to wait and let the value of the program decline to the point where nobody cares anymore.

They should have called it HFPP.

When it comes to management FAIL awards, it is a close tie between GOX and HF imho.

154  Economy / Speculation / Re: MTGOX SUBPOENAED BY US PROSECUTOR on: February 26, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
Welcome to the Bitcoin Inquisition.
155  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Roger Ver : Gox "worst-run business in the history of the world". on: February 26, 2014, 08:00:40 AM
Roger had at least 24000 bitcoins tied up in MtGox since 2012 due to the Bitcoinica liquidation. (MtGox refused to hand over the keys to the account to the court appointed liquidator citing 'privacy reasons' so the funds remained 'frozen' until the demise of MtGox yesterday).

He also released a new 'teleprompter' video today distancing himself from Gox and clarifying statements made in his earlier video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIJ_jpmwzo
156  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: February 26, 2014, 07:15:33 AM
It seems that havelock is down Huh

Indeed.

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Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later.

Perhaps overloaded from the Neo Bee trading?
157  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast BabyJet users thread on: February 26, 2014, 02:41:05 AM
RPi is a joke, like Ckolivas said why run thousands of $$$ in equipment on a $ 40 device,(use a bit of logic) get a real hw like a netbook ,laptop, desktop, which ever with a linux distro like debian, CentOS , Fedora or Ubunutu . The RPi is just not meant to used this purpose , aka controller the SD card which is quite slow to begin , also has a limited amount of writes which always leads to failure .

I've been using my Pi as an ASIC controller since June 2013. It has been rock solid. Just make sure you use a high-quality USB power supply. I do agree that the SD card 'limited writes' is an issue. Roughly every 3 months I need to replace my SD card or at the very least re-format and re-flash it with a fresh image.
158  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast BabyJet users thread on: February 25, 2014, 06:55:39 AM
I'm currently trying to thrash out with them and help a 0.4 actually be released. We're looking at a release candidate for that one now.

Thanks ckolivas, your help is invaluable. Much appreciated.
159  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The biggest thief in the Bitcoinica debacle? MtGox on: February 25, 2014, 04:57:43 AM
jesus.. the only thing that has happened to me in over 3+ years in btc is just getting fucking railroaded and skull fucked.  first by zhou tong and now mr frappacino

Welcome to Bitcoin! No regulations. Railroading to the left, skullfucking to the right. Enjoy your stay!
160  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The biggest thief in the Bitcoinica debacle? MtGox on: February 25, 2014, 04:46:31 AM
And voila. Fait accompli. Congratulations Mark. Enjoy those 64,532 BTC that rightfully belong to Bitcoinica customers.
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