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btcfpga is instock and will ship, I believe BFL is still filling back orders from aug? If you were to invest in fpga you are kind of screwed no matter what since for BFL you won't get it until maybe next month and for btcfpga there isn't a clear buyback program (yet).
To be honest if you are just waiting for asic, probably getting a few 7970's and hashing them until asics is probably best. You can then resell sell in a few months and hopefully not lose too much money.
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It’s amazing what godlike power a little fleshy hole has over otherwise intelligent men.
My fiance reminds me of it daily....  fiancé or fiancé e? The french add the extra e for the female..... I'm not french or a grammar nazi so its fiance for me.  I think you are being trolled~ |
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Just edu, not transcript are necessary. But good luck with your sales!
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lol i just saw the homeless jackie blog, comedy gold.
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And how is this different than the student discount?
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I still can't believe anyone thought this was something other than a joke thread.
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And now I know what the "off topic" forum is like.
Carry on.
LOL, this is only a small sample of the off-topic forum, the threads each vary greatly, you never know what you'll see in here... I thought the off-topic board was a personal troll ground for Atlas... are you saying it's not? |
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Well it is October and there is still no PROOF or whatever that there are ASIC..at all..  I can kind of see your side on this...there isn't any physical evidence of the device because no one on the forum is holding one in their hands. I get that. But there is PLENTY of circumstantial evidence to show otherwise. 4-5 different companies creating and marketing their devices...tons of obvious test runs shown in the network hash fluxes...BFL showing pictures of what their devices will look like on their website... Not to mention they've already sold past products that are still in use today, and they're giving you an opportunity to upgrade those products. The evidence is there...all you need to do is look There is evidence these companies are in the process of create ASIC devices yes, but all of this evidence is based on speculation/statements. No one has seen any evidence of an actual prototype in their consumers or manufacturers hands. I think that is where the concern is coming from, since after all, how can you delivery early November if you don't even have a prototype out yet? |
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How can they use firmware to increase speed? Wouldn't this mean that they are simply overclocking it in order to increase the cycles/sec? In order to do that it would require more power.. so then how can say in range of their supposed power specs? I'd love to see a working prototype =/
Picture it this way: They were underclocked before. Or, to be more accurate, they were originally designed with the newly-release specs in mind, but BFL underestimated them in order to be certain to overdeliver instead of underdeliver. Has BFL gone on record that this data is from prototypes or is this all theoretical? I haven't seen a single quote by a BFL that this is actual hardware data and not estimation. Even their original message they were very careful to say something along the lines of "the original intent all along was to increase the rate with firmware should a price war occur". Never did they say that this increase was due to optimization after testing physical hardware. |
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How can they use firmware to increase speed? Wouldn't this mean that they are simply overclocking it in order to increase the cycles/sec? In order to do that it would require more power.. so then how can say in range of their supposed power specs? I'd love to see a working prototype =/
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You (and Tom) are dreaming if you think it's going to run at 60w. The reason he doesn't want to post his power specs is because he knows they are going to be high.
Why is it attainable for your company but only dream-able for others? My guess is avalon is the only reasonable prediction and once we get actual prototypes out we will see this |
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Can we please drop this? This isn't helping the case for either BFL (Inaba) or Tom (cablepair). I think we can all agree that making a joke about someone's recent passing is not proper and that the mourner will be particularly sensitive to any comments about the deceased.
You guys can talk it out in PM if you wish, but I don't believe this type of conversation in public is beneficial to either side.
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I am assuming having a significant bank roll is relatively important to make a decent amount of profit in this short exchanges. Is this correct?
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I doubt we see any ASIC until Dec at the earliest, personally I think Q1 2013 regardless of manufacturer.
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Now we gotta add Avalon to this list.. although he's pretty clear that the first round won't be until Dec 31 ish, and "full run" by Feb 2013
I thought it was first run by end of Feb 2012? Where did you get Dec 31st? |
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I say that we have made some drastic changes lately and I do not have something that is physically close to a production board available to me at the moment (although they are coming soon just read the announcement from friday) frankly I can't promise something I don't know the answer to. I can't and I wont. I could have my engineers calculate a pretty good guess - but I dont want to be wrong and have to change my answer later, thats really not my style. As soon as i have the actual power consumption numbers I will publish them, but dont worry you wont have to wait much longer now. Can you at least give an upper cutoff? Something along the lines of "The 54GH/s board won't consume more than 200W." Earlier statements were that the 27 gh/s version would use less power than the modminerquad which is 40 W.. It is probably better to wait for a prototype though. |
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Considering gigavps has a vendetta against Tom and btcfpga (and obvious bias towards BFL since that what he invested in) expected him to he hesitant in reporting numbers that are comparable to BFL.
Hi squid, I have put this thread together to help consolidate information based on provable facts. I am trying to be impartial and objective. If you feel Tom's statement cited earlier in the thread is clear and concise, I will add it to the OP. Best, gigavps Nah, Tom has stated that he will give an estimate once he gets the prototype in his hands. |
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To vouch I have only had good experiences with Tom and btfpga/bASIC.
Also, its interesting to see that all the posted here are members with ~ 10 posts.. take what you will of that.
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