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141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block creation will eventually become more stable and predictable on: July 12, 2011, 06:05:12 AM
as long as you don't have more than a dozen, it would probably not waste much electricity at all.a fan does not have much mass so starting it would would not be too much burden.

it's not just the fans on the GPUs.

put a Kill-A-Watt on a miner sometime, and compare the power draw in the first five minutes of operation to the draw at steady-state.
142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block creation will eventually become more stable and predictable on: July 12, 2011, 05:56:54 AM
block creation is perfectly stable and predictable.  it was designed that way.

but it was designed by someone with a long-term vision, and you simply can't look at it in the short term.

Um, it is not perfectly stable and anyone reasonable looks both short and long term. Are you missing the point of the original post?

you mean this:

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The result is that almost all miners individually, acting rationally, would stop mining after a block is found and simply go about routing and keeping track of transactions until enough fees accumulate to warrant the electricity to search for a block.

?

no.  i don't think i'm missing it - i just don't think it's valid.

on a practical level, no miner does this.  it's a ridiculous amount of effort.

and on a strictly financial level, i suspect it's more expensive (in terms of both electrical power and wear on equipment [starting and stopping fans, etc.]) to do this.  do you turn off the engine of your car, waiting at a stoplight (some new hybrids - which are designed for that - excepted)?  no.  you use more gas starting an engine than you use in 30-60 seconds of idle.

i just can't see starting and stopping my miners six times an hour as a particularly efficient strategy.  even if i were to write a script to automate it, it would still - i offer - use more power and degrade the equipment more than would be offset by any tiny, theoretical profit.
143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block creation will eventually become more stable and predictable on: July 12, 2011, 05:32:44 AM
block creation is perfectly stable and predictable.  it was designed that way.

but it was designed by someone with a long-term vision, and you simply can't look at it in the short term.
144  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin awards. on: July 12, 2011, 05:26:10 AM
I own bestofbitcoin.com

lets do this.

but who owns bitcoinawards.com?
145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Active Bitcoin nodes per day since December - cool charts on: July 12, 2011, 05:22:42 AM
what exactly is a node.  Is me running a client a node? Is my miner a node? not sure what a node is.

yeah - i'm not sure either.

what comes to mind is a solo miner - because running the client 24/7 is identifiable on the 'net.  which means there's a helluva lot more people mining and using than we've been thinking.  does this node chart detect pooled miners?  i suspect not.
146  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should individuals have the right to build weapons of mass destruction? on: July 12, 2011, 05:15:49 AM
Now that nukes exist, I think everyone should get some.

Literally.


For example, I live in Brazil, that has no nukes. Brazil commonly bend over to nuke-bearing nations in ways that are crap to me.

If I had my own nuke, I could enforce Brazil to not do that, or secede.


In fact, I was looking the only small state of the world that is really interesting: Singapore, achieved that by having absurd military power.

mmmm.

firstly, you should look into brazil's Parallel Program of the 1970's and 80s.  you will find that your premise is not quite as accurate as you believe.  brazil may or may not have had nuclear weapons - accounts differ - but they entered the arena.

secondly, i will also point out that nuclear weapons only have value as a threat.  using them removes one's leverage.  and almost certainly one's self as well.  they are suicide weapons; excepting the case of their first (and anecdotally only) use by the US, against japan.
147  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should individuals have the right to build weapons of mass destruction? on: July 12, 2011, 04:50:48 AM
robert heinlein wrote a story once, examining the premise of this thread.

it took place on another world with an unbreathable atmosphere, which had homo saps living inside environmentally controlled, protective domes.  maybe it was the moon - i'm not sure.  somebody who has heinlein fresher in their mind will come along, i imagine.  they usually do...

anyway, the upshot was that any weapon an individual could make, buy, own or carry was perfectly fine - as long as it couldn't breach the dome that sustained life for the humans who lived there.

seems pretty clear - and i've never run across a better solution.
148  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you hate the State? on: July 12, 2011, 04:29:39 AM
That's like hating the club used to beat you over the head.

I suggest we hate the persons wielding the club.
The club corrupts all who wield it. It's the One Ring. It must be taken to Mordor and thrown into Mt Doom.

 


this is profoundly true.
149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo on: July 12, 2011, 03:52:34 AM
no one should send this tattoo person any amount of bitcoins

good call on the c-section scar though, although it'll probably get chalked up to being a panty line

hilarious that someone actually got a bitcoin tattoo or two

Actually I am a cancer survivor.

then you understand not to pay much attention.

ma'am - it's a fine tat in a fine place on a fine body, put there by an obviously fine mind.

you win.  the losers lose.

carry on.
150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tradehill Robbed me! on: July 11, 2011, 06:03:32 PM
* sigh *
151  Economy / Economics / Re: What would happen if? on: July 11, 2011, 06:01:54 PM
Prison.

Why? Well you must  buy the bitcoins and the money that go from the credit card to the bitcoin exchange can be happily traced. So it's clear that it's not bankrupt but fraud and there are proofs

Sure, they then won't be able to take the bitcoin from you (you encrypt the wallet and everything) but you still go to jail.

i think you probably take cash out of the credit card, and send anonymous money orders (or something similar) to the exchange to buy Bitcoin.

bankruptcy judge:  "what happened to the money you took out?"

you:  "i have a gambling problem."

judge:  "i hereby sentence you to counseling.  and eight lashes with a wet noodle."
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Unit Colour Chart on: July 11, 2011, 06:53:53 AM
nah, sorry.  it's a loser.

learn to read a decimal point.  it's less ambiguous, has no medical (i.e., color-blindness) issues, doesn't depend on your monitor (there are still an awful lot of B&W displays in the world), and can be communicated easily and effectively:

"how much is it?"

"uhhh, 23 green, 14 yellow, 92 blue.  plus postage."  yeah.  that's gonna work...

That's not how I envisage it being used.
Pick a unit - and that's the colour/name/icon you're dealing with.
23.15 uBTC (green)    vs  0.00002315 BTC

It's not about avoiding decimal points altogether. It's picking a convenient unit for day to day transactions and having as many strong visual cues as possible as to the unit you're dealing with.

Tell the average person their wallet has 0.00417597 BTC  and it's going to cost them 0.00002315 BTC to click some link - and their eyes will glaze over trying to do the maths.
Tell them they have 4175.97 uBTC and the cost is 23.15 uBTC - and they'll have a better feel for what the relative cost is.

Accuse me of underestimating the intelligence of the public if you want..  (though I hear there's a famous quote about nobody going broke doing that)





what time is it?

http://home.earthlink.net/~drbarrall/RCCClock-sm.jpg
153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Value At The End Of 2011? on: July 11, 2011, 06:48:19 AM
I really can't wait to see where the price of Bitcoin goes, and the social impact along with it. I think that right now is the calm before the storm, and June was like a gust of wind.

yes.

take a look at the Bitcoin Chart.  set it at 1 year, log scale.

look at the peak at the end of the first week of november 2010.

what's happening now - starting with the peak of june 8th - looks exactly the same.  i've never seen that kind of perfect fit, in any financial chart.
154  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you hate the State? on: July 11, 2011, 06:39:16 AM
Why is there supposed to be something wrong with dying when you get old?

how old are you?

you will discover that the definition of 'old' changes as you age.  no shit.  wait.  you'll see.

me, i just turned 60.  i feel the same as i felt when i was 30.  good genes though - so i can't take much credit.

but you go ahead and die "when you get old".  (or even before - are you a Who fan?)  i'm sure you won't mind at all, and will consider it to be an insignificant planetary occurrence.  or perhaps an honor for the greater good?

as for roads...  those little pathways in towns aren't roads; those are footpaths.  and the difference is clear.  one builds civilizations.  the other makes you feel safe in the night.

Wow, I would've pegged you at 30 - 35.

yeah.  i get that a lot on the 'net.  and face to face it's usually: "oh, about 45".

alas, i have no six-pack these days - but i still got at least a two-pack.  Grin

he's not dead y'know.  only resting...
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Unit Colour Chart on: July 11, 2011, 06:23:45 AM
nah, sorry.  it's a loser.

learn to read a decimal point.  it's less ambiguous, has no medical (i.e., color-blindness) issues, doesn't depend on your monitor (there are still an awful lot of B&W displays in the world), and can be communicated easily and effectively:

"how much is it?"

"uhhh, 23 green, 14 yellow, 92 blue.  plus postage."  yeah.  that's gonna work...
156  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you hate the State? on: July 11, 2011, 06:16:42 AM
Why is there supposed to be something wrong with dying when you get old?

how old are you?

you will discover that the definition of 'old' changes as you age.  no shit.  wait.  you'll see.

me, i just turned 60.  i feel the same as i felt when i was 30.  good genes though - so i can't take much credit.

but you go ahead and die "when you get old".  (or even before - are you a Who fan?)  i'm sure you won't mind at all, and will consider it to be an insignificant planetary occurrence.  or perhaps an honor for the greater good?

as for roads...  those little pathways in towns aren't roads; those are footpaths.  and the difference is clear.  one builds civilizations.  the other makes you feel safe in the night.
157  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you hate the State? on: July 11, 2011, 05:57:42 AM
We built our own roads before Rome.  We took care of our own elderly.  And our children, our neighbors.  We did all of that without big government, because everyone took care of people immediately around them.  Politicians promise to take care of all these for us AND demand that we murder and steal from people that are not our immediate family, neighbors, nationality.  Don't study the last 10 or 20 years of history, study the last 5000.  And then tell me again how good for the people you think governments are.

we never built our own roads.  they have always been a construct of either military necessity or interstate/intercity trading constructed by states/citystates/etc. with the vision to see the advantages of them.  any road worth mentioning has always been built with either taxes or slavery (actual slavery - not some ridiculously-defined 'cultural/political/ideological slavery').

yeah.  sure we took care of our own elderly.  there's only one problem with continuing on that course:  global warming has seen to it that we're running out of ice floes.

snark aside, you have no idea, obviously, how it has gone for the elderly (you know:  those folks who built what we consume?) in the past 5,000 years of world history.  or in the past 80 in the US...
158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will this happen? on: July 11, 2011, 05:34:07 AM
i'm an american.

Sorry, I guess I should have said universal except for the United States.   Cool

Why are so many americans opposed to the metric system? The only primary numbering system taught in schools is base-10, so it's not like it's some weird foreign concept....

I mean no offense, I've just never discussed it before. And USA is one of only a handful of countries not using the metric system.

I'm certainly not opposed to the metric system. But I also know that there is a stack of patchwork government regulations which mandate Imperial measurements (sometimes, along with metric).

in the US, the metric system has been mandated since 1866 in the legal and commercial spheres:

http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasures/Metric/upload/HR-596-Metric-Law-1866.pdf

[PDF ALERT]

i note that since NASA booted a mars landing, they've used metric exclusively.  since 2007.  not counting the odd, existing spacecraft put together with imperial wrenches.

i hate imperial measurement.  i stopped thinking in it when i got my degree in physics, and i simply can't understand why it still exists.

feet, fer chrissakes:  real goddamn FEET!  and some bizarre number of grains of wheat to the inch.  shit.  my head hurts...
159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will this happen? on: July 11, 2011, 05:20:59 AM
i'm an american.

Sorry, I guess I should have said universal except for the United States.   Cool

Why are so many americans opposed to the metric system? The only primary numbering system taught in schools is base-10, so it's not like it's some weird foreign concept....

I mean no offense, I've just never discussed it before. And USA is one of only a handful of countries not using the metric system.

i'm completely bewildered by that.

not a goddamn clue.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will never... reach either $5 or $20. Place your bets now! on: July 11, 2011, 05:19:25 AM

I pledge 10 bitcoins to reaching $20 before $5.


we have no basis for a bet, being in complete agreement.
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