Do you hate the State?

[imperi]

Why is there supposed to be something wrong with dying when you get old?

how old are you?

you will discover that the definition of 'old' changes as you age.  no shit.  wait.  you'll see.

me, i just turned 60.  i feel the same as i felt when i was 30.  good genes though - so i can't take much credit.

but you go ahead and die "when you get old".  (or even before - are you a Who fan?)  i'm sure you won't mind at all, and will consider it to be an insignificant planetary occurrence.  or perhaps an honor for the greater good?

as for roads...  those little pathways in towns aren't roads; those are footpaths.  and the difference is clear.  one builds civilizations.  the other makes you feel safe in the night.

Wow, I would've pegged you at 30 - 35.

[cloon]

your talking about roads and history?
stay in present!

IMO the states suck!
ur all getting fat and degenerated by disevolution! because jour gouvernment wants the control and kapitalism (power for the persons who have money and who enslave you to work for them)
your health-organisations only care for the symptons not for the reasons, what makes you even more sick!
your personal rights are throne away... there could everytime come the police and do house search or you could be called a terrorist because your neighbour is arab and you'll get arrestet for years without a judge...
The only thing your gouverment is able to do is make more debts using for War to kill the terrorists, enslave the population, and find some chemical mass destruction wapons! (It was all for reccources, money and influence not about freedom)
Oh yeah and they can talk! and you believe everything they say
obama is a marionette of the finance system
the american dream has passed
BYE LIBERTY BYE

[Jaime Frontero]

Why is there supposed to be something wrong with dying when you get old?

how old are you?

you will discover that the definition of 'old' changes as you age.  no shit.  wait.  you'll see.

me, i just turned 60.  i feel the same as i felt when i was 30.  good genes though - so i can't take much credit.

but you go ahead and die "when you get old".  (or even before - are you a Who fan?)  i'm sure you won't mind at all, and will consider it to be an insignificant planetary occurrence.  or perhaps an honor for the greater good?

as for roads...  those little pathways in towns aren't roads; those are footpaths.  and the difference is clear.  one builds civilizations.  the other makes you feel safe in the night.

Wow, I would've pegged you at 30 - 35.

yeah.  i get that a lot on the 'net.  and face to face it's usually: "oh, about 45".

alas, i have no six-pack these days - but i still got at least a two-pack. 

he's not dead y'know.  only resting...

[hugolp]

We built our own roads before Rome.  We took care of our own elderly.  And our children, our neighbors.  We did all of that without big government, because everyone took care of people immediately around them.  Politicians promise to take care of all these for us AND demand that we murder and steal from people that are not our immediate family, neighbors, nationality.  Don't study the last 10 or 20 years of history, study the last 5000.  And then tell me again how good for the people you think governments are.

we never built our own roads.  they have always been a construct of either military necessity or interstate/intercity trading constructed by states/citystates/etc. with the vision to see the advantages of them.  any road worth mentioning has always been built with either taxes or slavery (actual slavery - not some ridiculously-defined 'cultural/political/ideological slavery').

This is false. The first roads in the USA were built by cooperatives formed in the towns that wanted to build the roads. It wasnt until later that the government got in because it wanted its share of the business.

yeah.  sure we took care of our own elderly.  there's only one problem with continuing on that course:  global warming has seen to it that we're running out of ice floes.

snark aside, you have no idea, obviously, how it has gone for the elderly (you know:  those folks who built what we consume?) in the past 5,000 years of world history.  or in the past 80 in the US...

Previously, the elder could save in money that would last and did not need to be gambling in the stock market to keep their retirement funds or trust that the politicians would not collapse the social security funds before they need them. You have to thanks the government for that too.

[GideonGono]

I HATE THE STATE!


Thanks, that was a great article.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Ah, yes ... how many actually listened to youtube podcast?

The discussion appears to be getting bogged down and side-traced in a swamp of minutiae

Maybe you need a dose of Prax-girl ... to help explain the logic of human interaction, from there you can build up to necessity/absurdity of the State.

http://www.youtube.com/user/praxgirl

and actually, yes, she does take bitcoins!

http://www.youtube.com/user/praxgirl#p/a/u/1/7u4LIxByZ54

[Confucius]

Prax-girl
http://www.youtube.com/user/praxgirl

Dang, she got 1.09 BTC donations to the BTC address she advertised on YouTube just for being hot!

Bitcoins == Easiest way ever invented for babes to take monetary compliments from across the world

[marcus_of_augustus]

Prax-girl
http://www.youtube.com/user/praxgirl

Dang, she got 1.09 BTC donations to the BTC address she advertised on YouTube just for being hot!

Bitcoins == Easiest way ever invented for babes to take monetary compliments from across the world

Heh ... had to watch multiple times just to focus on the content properly.

[LokeRundt]

Sure, if a hot woman like her hates the state, that's gotta be what's up

[Trader Steve]

Let's just say I like freedom.

[niemivh]

That's like hating the club used to beat you over the head.

I suggest we hate the persons wielding the club.

[netrin]

Sorry bitcoin_bug, I thought the 12 minute reading sucked. Maybe because I only dislike the state and haven't yet engaged in expected rational panic Mr. Jefferson warned me about.

As for Praxeology, it just sounds like the first three of Buddhism's fourth aryan truths with a sprinkling of Nietzsche. appamada.

[Anonymous]

Without question. I can barely handle the starvation and holocaust it causes: the limits it puts on innovation, charity and man overall; only reducing us further in our primitive sufferings.

[billyjoeallen]

That's like hating the club used to beat you over the head.

I suggest we hate the persons wielding the club.

The club corrupts all who wield it. It's the One Ring. It must be taken to Mordor and thrown into Mt Doom.

 

[Jaime Frontero]

That's like hating the club used to beat you over the head.

I suggest we hate the persons wielding the club.

The club corrupts all who wield it. It's the One Ring. It must be taken to Mordor and thrown into Mt Doom.

 

this is profoundly true.

[marcus_of_augustus]

That's like hating the club used to beat you over the head.

I suggest we hate the persons wielding the club.

The club corrupts all who wield it. It's the One Ring. It must be taken to Mordor and thrown into Mt Doom.

 

this is profoundly true.

... ban the State?

How does that work?

Can only be by voluntary dis-association ... the State is the default primordial ooze of fear, mysticism and misery that is slipped back into when reason is abandoned wholesale.

[Jaime Frontero]

That's like hating the club used to beat you over the head.

I suggest we hate the persons wielding the club.

The club corrupts all who wield it. It's the One Ring. It must be taken to Mordor and thrown into Mt Doom.

 

this is profoundly true.

... ban the State?

How does that work?

Can only be by voluntary dis-association ... the State is the default primordial ooze of fear, mysticism and misery that is slipped back into when reason is abandoned wholesale.

read Lord of the Rings much?

[BBanzai]

I lost track.  Yes, LOR several times, including the appendices.  I can write my own name in the Angerthas Cirth.  Learned that at 8.  Just sayin'.  You have not seen how foot paths turn into roads, by use, by the statistical vote of the travellers and the folks that used them.  Not by soldiers and asphalt.  The Interstates were always for military use.

[BBanzai]

Your definition of getting old will change as you age.  I noticed that when I was 6.  No one wanted to talk to me at the time about what I had seen.  I'm....well, let's say over 40 and leave it at that.

[Jaime Frontero]

I lost track.  Yes, LOR several times, including the appendices.  I can write my own name in the Angerthas Cirth.  Learned that at 8.  Just sayin'.  You have not seen how foot paths turn into roads, by use, by the statistical vote of the travellers and the folks that used them.  Not by soldiers and asphalt.  The Interstates were always for military use.

only several? 

i was a member of the TSA in 1966.  i spoke to tolkien one christmas, on the phone (ian ballantine set up the call - long story...).

just think - CGI is really getting good enough to make the silmarillion...