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141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Leaked Grant Proposal Details High-Risk Coronavirus Research on: September 26, 2021, 10:16:14 AM

This is so under-merited.
Everyone should really read this. Thank you jojo, everything in one place.

Very low quality antivaxxer shit. Using a couple of real facts to make is look trustworthy to cover up the rest 99% which is a huge pile of BS.

Specifically, what in this essay can you factually disagree with? Attacking the author as "just" and agricultural advisor is immaterial. What Specifically do see as BS? I see very little, personally, that is counter to what I have known about virology, immunology, and yes, agricultural husbandry for many years. Do you want my personal credentials? GFY! Opsec.
Why not look into the credentials of Dr. Robert Malone? Or better yet, look a little deeper into the track record of Dr. Anthony Faucci... (how many died due to his stubborn insistence that HIV could be treated with a single miracle cure rather than a strategic regime of therapeutic & symptom based treatment?)


Serious questions: What percentage of Covid-19 infections do YOU believe lead to hospitalization? What percentage by your understanding leads to death? How many have died since March 2020 due to increased addiction, mental illness, and suicide brought on by isolation, fear, and economic catastrophe? How many have died due to abject failure in the medical industry to maintain sensible treatment plans for NON-COVID based healthcare treatment?  

My own father (the best man I ever knew) died from Covid policies in June 2020 even though he was tested 4 times and came up negative every time. His bronchioscopy that was scheduled as a follow-up after his successful radiation treatment had eradicated his stage 1 cancer was canceled. His pulse-ox readings were dropping into the 80-85% range. But because he was Covid negative, and since covid protocol would not allow his regular Dr's, those familiar with his specific conditions, to see him or be involved in his treatment, he was quickly discharged and put on oxygen. 8 days after his 70th birthday after being discharged from the hospital 4 times, he sat up on the edge of his bed and told my mother, "I can't breathe!" The irony of his last words, in June of 2020, "I can't breathe!" He then fell over and bled out from the aneurysm in his left lung that had grown to the point of rupturing since it was first detected in October of 2019. His Oncologist felt that it was more important to continue his treatments at that time, but wanted to look back with a bronchioscopy in February or March... Our hospitals were never overwhelmed, but the medical industry lost its collective mind! My father never had Covid-19 as my wife and I were very careful to avoid exposing him or my mother as we both went through it in May. He never had it, but it killed him just the same. I did have it, it sucked. And it cost me an additional 6 weeks of time with my father. 6 weeks of his last 8.

I had it, I beat it, and I have been exposed numerous times since. Because when the world shut down and my wife was furloughed I was needed much more urgently. After 18 months of working 50+ hours per week and traveling at least 1 week out of every month, I'm tired and maybe a bit cranky! But you tell me to "trust the science" "listen to the professionals" & "take the jab" FUCK YOU! The science tells me I already have natural immunity and due to my genetic predisposition to cardiovascular issues and blood clots, the science tells me this vaccine is not offering enough benefit to outweigh the risks. My wife went ahead and got the Pfizer vaccine. She has a genetic autoimmune issue that made it seem sensible for her even though she had already beaten Covid in early 2020. Of course that was when it was deemed 94% effective 🙄 and she has since developed a heart murmur that nobody can explain. Probably not related, but who knows?

So yea it kinda matters to me personally, so tell me Specifically, what do you see as being BS?

I've tried to avoid this topic because this is a Bitcoin conversation, (and because it's a bit of an emotional topic for me) but I greatly appreciated the link that was posted as I found it very helpful to see my own thoughts and knowledge expressed so succinctly. But you insist that it's 99% BS, and dismiss it. NO, Specifically what is factually untrue or even misleading?

The guy has written some great stuff for the novice farmer on subjects like electric fencing, low cost cattle rearing etc.

To keep the dollars rolling in he is now an expert on every fucking thing.

He starts out with a particular standpoint on a subject and collects "facts" that fit that premise and disregards those that do not. That's not how science or decent investigative journalism works.

A bit off topic I know but Bitcoin again proving its resilience and in the strongest position it has ever been, the long term outlook only gets better by the day.





142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 04:38:28 PM
Waking up to btc prices 3-4% up blowing away the hopes of all the so called "we are bearish" supporters is so good and having HOLD sleep well for another high.

Little to be off topic although prices are going there is interesting btc quiz for you guys and have a look on different sections and enhance your knowledge doors.You can give it a try and have merit as well if you score good Wink

Give this btc test

Actually a good test... with decently challenging questions (50 of them), and also giving the correct answer when getting wrong.. or some further specifications to help educate on some topics... by the way, I think that it may have taken me 10-15 minutes to take the test, and part of the reason is that it took a while to read some of the questions and even have to read the questions twice before choosing.

Talk me out of putting a newbies goal (0.21 BTC) into Monero..

Go on why not, if it is new fiat. Don't cash in your Bitcoin for the purpose.

I still hold 0.185 BTC in Monero at current rates, I received as a payment a very long time ago.

We will both be receiving wrath of Jay in due course.

I personally own some shitcoins, but I believe that we should not be talking about them in this here thread.. because such conversations that might only touch on shitcoins devolve and devolve and devolve, and pretty thing instead of bitcoin talk, we have nonsense talk going on in these here parts.. and there is no stopping point in the attempt to try to figure out which shitcoin is less worse..

Of course, some incidental mentioning of various shitcoins or talking about some shitcoin dynamics is going to happen from time to time, at least in terms of trying to attempt to connect those matters with what is going on in bitcoin is surely relevant to this thread.. there are just problems with guys coming out with nonsense and distracting claims like.. "jump into ripple now.. here is the time.. you heard it here first about x shitcoin, y shitcoin or z shitcoin.. and a and b shitcoin is less worse than c shitcoin.. .. blah blah blah.."

we get that kind of distracting nonsense in this thread from time to time, and it is just to damned annoying in trying to figure out which member is trying to be genuine in his/her discussion or which member is pumping some bullshit scheme that implicitly (or explicitly) trying to suggest that there is something wrong with bitcoin in regards to x or just all over the place in where those irrelevant conversations end up going.. what we gonna do?  have 12,000 or more shitcoins mentioned in this thread at various times when they are pumping and stupid distracting crap like that and hardly can even be relevant here except to stop us from actually attempting to grapple with some real matters going on in bitcoin..?

...and by the way, if you have not heard, ongoingly, there are real matters going on in bitcoin all the time.. believe it or not.. .. and in spite some guys saying: "I am bored.. nothing is happening in bitcoin, blah blah blah."  There is always shit happening in bitcoin, whether you accept it or not.. what do you expect when we have the greatest wealth transfer in the history of man going on right before our eyes.. shit is happening.. believe it or deny it...

Took that test some time ago. Like you had to read some of the questions twice as some of the questions are poorly constructed and some of multiple choice answers are poorly written or ambiguous.
Obviously the writer did not have the resources of a professional polling company.
However overall its a reasonably good learning tool for those not so clued up on Bitcoin or even how money works.

I expected far more venom and wrath Jay, for indulging eddie13 in mentioning a shitcoin, you are mellowing out too much.
But totally agree this is not the place for too much discussion on shitcoins.
I have followed and shared in every turn of Bitcoin for years and and again must agree there is never a dull moment.
Even in the days when tumbleweed gifs adorned the pages as frequently as chartbuddy.
It is a constant source of entertainment and unexpected and not so unexpected twists and turns.
Who would have thought last Friday in the month that MSM would dish up out of date China FUD again, and what tickles me most is how many react to it right on cue. The dump started right on 08:30 UTC when the options were due for settlement.  

143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 08:12:39 AM
Talk me out of putting a newbies goal (0.21 BTC) into Monero..



Go on why not, if it is new fiat. Don't cash in your Bitcoin for the purpose.

I still hold 0.185 BTC in Monero at current rates, I received as a payment a very long time ago.

We will both be receiving wrath of Jay in due course.


144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 23, 2021, 11:34:40 AM
bitcoin.org back online
145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 23, 2021, 11:27:18 AM
hopefully the scammers didn't get away with too much $$$

From what I've read, it's at least 0.4BTC...

It's OK, all is fine. Darwin at work. Whoever owns BTC and can fall for this scam is not worthy of owning (keys of) BTC.

That's why I agree with cAPSLOCK's stance on banks. Whether we like it or not, banks are necessary, to take care of those incapable of being their own bank. I do hope this changes in the future, but somehow I don't think it ever will...

I do agree with the Darwin bit.
The scam however has nothing to do with the banking aspect , but everything to do with stupidity.
Regardless of whether Bitcoin was in the custody of a bank or their own wallet, the fools falling for the scam would still have sent their Bitcoin.
The advent of hardware wallets and their ease of use, means even the least technological capable folk can secure their Bitcoin.
 
It is likely the scammers sent some of their own money to that address to make it appear more legit, so possibly nobody lost any Bitcoin. But I would not count on it. Free money who could resist!
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 19, 2021, 02:39:51 PM

Look, this is hilarious! Where are you from? Year 2019? I can think of only two possibilities you know so little about this virus and stuff:

1. you were in a coma for 2 years
2. you're a fucking time traveler

Out of curiosity: could you please provide like 2-3 news sources you're using? (don't ask why I need that those Bill Gates's nano-robots in my blood told me to do it as I'm currently close to a 5G tower and they can transmit)  Grin Hope you're wearing your tinfoil hat right?  Grin

Look at this imbecile with his strawmans and his literal belief of state media. Equating people not believing the propaganda concerning covid-19 and the imbecility you are sprouting above actually is part of the propaganda (discrediting discenters by equating them with idiots) so proves my point: you believe everything your masters tell you. You are a serf, a pleb, someone who is not does not fall for these elementary tricks.

Sources? Just look at the data (even the padded official ones show enough if you actually look) and analyze, it's not rocket science but I'm sure its above your pay check.

Again: why are you on this forum? It's for those that value freedom, for truth-seekers. Not retards like you who think they are smart for worshipping your overlords.

I'm done with you. There are better uses of my time than talking to a wall (this response is a courtesy to others, not you).

"why are you on this forum? It's for those that value freedom, for truth-seekers"

no its not

it is Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Economics > Speculation > Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

not a fucking medical forum

147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 10:55:38 PM
Have you resolved the land dispute yet?

Survey company should have the documents ready for us to proceed with the case next week. It's taking much longer to resolve than I'd like, but we can't rush anything, given the formal nature of the dispute. We're looking good to win, and legitimately have a case for the Sherriff to come out if need-be.

It's causing me a tremendous amount of aggravation, but construction continues regardless.

Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.

No. Lawyer is pretty chilled out, and wanting us to get the property built out ASAP, so he has a nice long range to shoot his .50 Cal at.


Haha I like that, and your lawyer will be happy, its great to have space for a range.

No doubt your neighbor will hate you in an inter generational feud.

hope your recovery is complete soon.
148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 10:48:18 PM
PARIS — Calling American and Australian behavior “unacceptable between allies and partners,” France announced on Friday that it was recalling its ambassadors to both countries in protest over President Biden’s decision to provide nuclear-powered submarines to Australia.

It was the first time in the history of the long alliance between France and the United States, dating back to 1778, that a French ambassador has been recalled to Paris in this way for consultations. The decision by President Emmanuel Macron reflects the extent of French outrage at what it has a called a “brutal” American decision and a “stab in the back” from Australia.

But why would France care so much? Does this adversely affect their military standing on the world stage?

Australia on Wednesday canceled a $66 billion agreement to purchase French-built, conventionally powered submarines, hours before the deal with Washington and London was announced.

Oh, money, grift, corruption and pork.

Of course.
What hurt them most is (apart from losing contract) there was no formal discussion on deal cancellation and Australia notified them just before the announcement, like 1 hour or so lol. Literally no one see that coming even Australian ministers.

The French as part of the EEC did not care when quotas for exports from Australia to Great Britain, a major trading partner were imposed when GB joined the EEC. Australia took a blow, and a lesson and now concentrates on trade in Asia.

European defense policy is in disarray meanwhile People’s Liberation Army Navy has 6 nuclear subs, 50+ conventional and rapidly increasing spending. Australia require the latest and best to help balance power in the region.

I believe India has one nuclear sub with 3 more to follow, all designed and built there.
149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 10:28:31 PM
Seems like some serious stress building within WO.

Nah, I think it's just much needed catharsis for some. I get it. I am the clear outlier of the family, and am well prepared for violent opposition, when it comes to a difference of opinion.

All I can do is state my case, based on best information I have available to me, and walk away to continue living my life if people disagree with me, or find what I have to say as going against their programming.

Very sad times.

It's the classic problem of leading a horse to a stream, but being unable to get it to drink the fucking water.

Stupid animals, I'll tell you hwat...

Have you resolved the land dispute yet?

Or are the lawyers eating funds faster than your ranch.

Back of my mind you had 0.4 acres each to give take by drawing a line down the middle or equivalent swap and shaking hands.

Your considerable investment shows you'll be there a while, even if the guy is a fucking retard try to be neighborly.  
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 10:00:12 PM
I have to laugh hearing about people not wanting to experiment with untested drugs (vaccines)

Hell the previous generation experimented with every drug available, taking risks magnitudes greater than those of untested vaccines.

Sounds like many on WO still do, just to make sure, to make sure.

A good read Alexander Shulgin - Phenethylamines I have known and loved.

I take psilocybin from fungi twice a year to combat depression. It's like taking a vacation, leaving me refreshed and free to face the world without the zombie fallout doctor prescribed pills give.




151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 09:25:27 PM
Seems like some serious stress building within WO.

In Darwin just before Monsoon season breaks the extreme heat and humidity causes the inhabitants much grief and short tempers, they call this going troppo.
When the first storm breaks and brings some relief tempers cool people dance in the rain.

Hopefully we are soon to get that relief.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun. 
152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 02:38:10 PM


"Funny Money" she called Bitcoin. (Whilst criminals stack up on large denomination Euro notes.)
That's rich coming from someone convicted of criminal negligence over €400 million payout to Bernard Tapie, friend of ex French President Nicolas Sarkozy. She did not have to serve the 1 year jail term or pay €13.000 fine that should have been imposed. The CJR look after their own.
Could not be a better candidate for President of European Central Bank.
 

153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 02:07:56 PM
OT:
France Recalls Ambassadors to U.S. and Australia

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It was the first time in the history of the long alliance between France and the United States, dating back to 1778, that a French ambassador has been recalled to Paris in this way for consultations.

The decision by President Emmanuel Macron reflects the extent of French outrage at what it has a called a “brutal” American decision and a “stab in the back” from Australia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/world/europe/france-ambassador-recall-us-australia.html

"Limited articles"  'Log in to create an account"...."Click here to subscribe"

I could probably read it for free by doing some work around without having to enter my penis size or some such....  but  at my age, I just cant be bothered.
 As John Cleese said "the older you get, the less things seem to matter" (there's a Google exercise for yawl)


Use a UK server on your VPN

OR

PARIS — Calling American and Australian behavior “unacceptable between allies and partners,” France announced on Friday that it was recalling its ambassadors to both countries in protest over President Biden’s decision to provide nuclear-powered submarines to Australia.

It was the first time in the history of the long alliance between France and the United States, dating back to 1778, that a French ambassador has been recalled to Paris in this way for consultations. The decision by President Emmanuel Macron reflects the extent of French outrage at what it has a called a “brutal” American decision and a “stab in the back” from Australia.

In a statement, Jean-Yves Le Drian, the French foreign minister, said the decision was made by Mr. Macron, who is understood to be furious about the way the United States, Britain and Australia negotiated the deal without informing France.

Australia on Wednesday canceled a $66 billion agreement to purchase French-built, conventionally powered submarines, hours before the deal with Washington and London was announced.

“At the request of the President of the Republic, I have decided to immediately recall our two ambassadors to the United States and Australia to Paris for consultations,” the statement said. “This exceptional decision is justified by the exceptional gravity of the announcements made on 15 September by Australia and the United States.”

Strained as relations were between Europe and the Trump administration over issues including climate change, Vladimir Putin’s Russia, and the role of the European Union, they never deteriorated to the point of the recall of a European ambassador.

The temporary return of the ambassadors to Paris amounts to a severe diplomatic rebuke that is usually used against adversaries. Mr. Le Drian made it clear that his country saw the actions of the United States and Australia as a serious breach of trust.

In an editorial, Le Monde, the leading French daily, said: “For any who still doubted it, the Biden Administration is no different from the Trump administration on this point: The United States comes first, whether it’s in the strategic, economic, financial or health fields. ‘America First’ is the guiding line of the foreign policy of the White House.”

The Biden administration, bent on containing the growing power of China, sees the nuclear submarine deal as a way to cement ties with a Pacific ally that is increasingly at odds with Beijing, while also making that ally more powerful.

Emily Horne, the spokeswoman for the National Security Council, said: “We have been in close touch with our French partners on their decision to recall Ambassador Etienne to Paris for consultations. We understand their position and will continue to be engaged in the coming days to resolve our differences, as we have done at other points over the course of our long alliance.”

She was referring to Philippe Etienne, the veteran diplomat who is the French ambassador in Washington.

The United States appears determined to play down the rift with France, portraying the conflict as just another disagreement among friends. France, however, appears to view the American decision as not only offensive in its secretive preparation but also indicative of a fundamental strategic shift that calls into question the very nature of the Atlantic alliance.

Mr. Le Drian’s statement said “the very conception we have of our alliances, our partnerships and the importance of the Indo-Pacific for Europe” would be affected. Where before France believed it could work hand-in-hand with the United States in confronting China, despite French reservations over perceived American aggressiveness, it now appears to be reconsidering that view.

Mr. Macron had made the growing French relationship with Australia a cornerstone of a strategy to expand Europe’s role in meeting the challenge of China’s rise. Because an American company, Lockheed Martin, was a partner in the French submarine deal with Australia, reached in 2016, the contract was viewed in Paris as an example of how France and the United States could work together in Asia.

That belief has now been shredded, replaced by bitterness, suspicion and a measure of incredulity that the Biden Administration would treat France this way.

A senior French diplomatic official described the fallout as a crisis in French-American relations. He said the French foreign and defense ministers had tried in vain, starting a week ago, to reach their American counterparts and speak to them on Monday or Tuesday.

He also said that until Mr. Macron received a letter Wednesday morning from the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, telling him the French submarine deal was scrapped, Australia had given no indication that it would pull out of the deal.

Australia had asked in June whether France believed its attack-class submarines were still up to meeting the threats they might face, and accepted French reassurances that they were, he said. American officials have suggested Australia made clear to France as early as June that the deal was dead.

Australia said in a statement on Saturday that it “understands France’s deep disappointment,” The Associated Press reported. The statement, from Foreign Minister Marise Payne’s office, said the country’s decision “was taken in accordance with our clear and communicated national security interests.”

American officials have conceded that they first informed the French about the deal on Wednesday morning, hours before Mr. Biden announced it. They also said that top American officials had tried, unsuccessfully, to schedule meetings with their French counterparts before news of the deal leaked in the Australian and American press — a mirror image of the French claim.

In the face of a disastrous imbroglio, both sides were trying to pass the blame. It appeared clear, however, that France had been blindsided by friends on an issue of critical strategic and economic importance.

In a briefing with reporters on Friday before the recall announcement by the French government, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, downplayed the damage to the relationship between the two countries.

“As the president said, we cooperate closely with France on shared priorities both in the Indo-Pacific region and we’ll continue to do so here in the Security Council,” she said. “Good friends have disagreements, but that’s the nature of friendship and that’s — because you’re friends, you can have disagreements and continue to work on those areas of cooperation.”

She added: “We don’t see those tensions changing the nature of our friendship.”

In Paris, however, there was no sign of words like “cooperation” and no indication that France was ready to declare anything remotely resembling business as usual.

Mr. Macron faces an election in seven months time. With right-wing nationalists challenging him strongly, the way he responds to what is being portrayed here as a serious insult will be closely watched.

The French president is certain to turn to his European partners, and particularly Germany, as he reassesses the Western alliance and Asian policy.

As Le Monde put it, “Beyond French sensibilities, it is the place of Europe and its role in the world that have been thrust into question. Where does Europe want to stand in the global realignment happening in the shadow of the America-China confrontation?”
154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 18, 2021, 01:43:15 PM
Paypal UK on twitter, yesterday:

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We are delighted to share that all eligible customers in the UK can now buy, hold and sell #Cryptocurrencies #Bitcoin, #Ethereum, #BitcoinCash & #Litecoin from their PayPal account. Look out for it in the PayPal app.

Could be the reason for the small increase.

Link or it did not happen.

Looks like it's possibly not fake news.

https://twitter.com/PayPalUK
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 28, 2021, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: Farmer Bill

Delusions of Grandeur

You mean me don't you?



I do not know why But i feel so much pity for People Who only learned about money in their life and just revolve their life about money.

No intuition to inventions, Just : how am I going to rob the next person blindly. Thats all they learned..

Just like the person Who only learned that 1+1=2 and there is no other way 😂



Look at the post below quote by Farmer Bill, the JJG Post and look at JJG posting history. He is talking about the same thing over and over and over again with Words swithched up. Like a Politician would do..

And no I dont want a troll like JJG to know anything. He deserves to know nothing 🙂he deserves to be kept in the Dark.

No I do not want to give JJG any space 😁

Yep Delusions of Grandeur a possible sign of Bi-polar syndrome.

If you balanced your life out a bit more and spent some time earning some money as well as believing you know everything and possess superior intellect.

1 you would not be begging 3BTC over and over and over and over and over and over

2 you would have been able to afford the healthcare for rest of the operation procedure you needed

3 you wouldn't have time to hang around here all day and night

Time to go out and check on my cattle.
 
156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 28, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
I'm fourth gen farmer. I built a spray rig on a 1974 Dodge 4x4 3/4 ton truck. It had a 500 gallon tank, I could spray 40 acres in about one hour. I am out of the game now, but the spray rig was kinda fun, actually. It was highly computerized, and I was very precise in my application.

Ever miss the farmer life? I appreciate the simplicity it projects outwards, the entire lifestyle, although I'm well aware that it's not all that simple in reality.

I do, but it's somewhat through rose-colored glasses, now that I am away from it. I miss living in the country (but I'm going back to live on ancestral ground), I like being 10 miles away from the nearest Pepsi machine. I like that there are about 4 people per square mile, and I grew up with all of them, and their parents grew up with my parents.

I do *not* miss insane working hours (my record was 104 hours in one week, once), I don't miss the weather, governments and markets deciding on whether I can make a living this year. I drove over 1200 acres three or four times a year. I don't miss old equipment breaking down (and I was the guy welding them back together when possible). I do *not* miss wrestling with cattle in the mud and their shit.

I like your descriptions of farming life, I can put up with the piss and shit, long hours in the tractor, having to have skills to fix everything, the weather. Its a constant challenge that keeps me going. The thing that most gets to me though is government interference in my life. The markets well that is just life, a good harvest does not always mean good returns in a year of glut.
I am well impressed that you converted a Dodge 4X4 to a capable spray rig. Happy days.
Wish you well for your return home.
157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 28, 2021, 11:51:00 AM
[edited out]

I had a dreadful thought one day, that many of the so called Trolls may have mental illness. I would not want any of them to cause themselves harm because of some remark I'd made. So I've decided to go soft and treat them sympathetically. While behind the scenes I may have a little chuckle to myself.
Can you imagine what it's like visiting this forum as a no coiner, reading lots of posts with people actively involved in the Bitcoin space but being too afraid to join them and just get in at today's price, always praying for the big drop down to whatever price, then if it gets there, they still don't buy in.

I have very little sympathy for that little twat eXPHorizon or any other troll/shill because they are disingenuine little twats that you cannot trust for shit in terms of it they might happen to have some kind of real world story.  They figure out a lot of creative ways to attempt to cause you to conclude that their usually inconsistent situation (to the extent they provide any details) might be real, and sure, I am not even saying that there might not be a real person on the other end of that keyboard creating a story, but we can hardly have any clues about whether they might be just some kind of normie who is stacking sats with a side job of getting paid to spread nonsense on the interwebs.

Call me unsympathetic during this largest wealth transfer in the history of man that there might be some casualties along the way... if there might be a chance that they actually believe and act upon any of the misinformation talking points that they are spouting out.

Sure, probably the vast majority of the regular guys in this thread are not going to believe shit that they say and our actions of accumulating coins is not going to be affected, but there are people who actually buy into their bullshit, even if they are ONLY affected on the margins.. but they are affected into waiting and failing/refusing to adequately prepare for UP.. so I don't want to give any semblance of space for these disingenuine troll shills to spread their nonsense.. and another thing that they do is they distract us from actually talking about more meaningful topics... sure we are all over the place in this thread with topics, but sometimes the pages do get filled with nonsense troll/shills, whether we are referring to eXPHorizon or some other twat.

So they can only shout in from the sidelines, joyous at the discomfort some holders experience when the price tanks. The Germans have a word for it 'schadenfreude'.
While Billy Coiner was making stupid comments at $30k, I bought BTC 0.25 at $31.5k thinking the $32k window was about to close, I was wrong and when it dropped further I bought another BTC 0.25 at $29.6K. Not often spare fiat and buying opportunities arise at the same time. Meanwhile Billy Coiner will be suffering extreme angst at the rest of the forum's good fortune.

First, I would prefer to refer to that twat as Billy no coiner... it seems a more descriptive name.

Second, sure we might see some entertainment value in some of the seemingly obvious bullshit that they are on and on about... and like I said, it seems quite likely that a decent majority of us will not be affected at all and we might even be encouraged to buy in terms of seeing how desperate some of the troll/shills appear with what they are saying or what they are expecting.

Third, I still don't agree to giving them much if any space, and sure I feel a wee bit guilty about some misleading posts that I make when I am joking (referring to this one), but I just cannot be feeling that there is a purpose to really give those twats space.  Of course, in my link above it turned out that elliottflz65 was not a twat, but he sure asked a stupid question on that day... and I cannot really feel overly bad about my answer, even though some hesitant newbies could have gotten mislead from me, too.  They could have gotten mislead into selling, or failing/refusing to adequately prepare for up.

With Phillipma the miner generating windfall profits from the hashrate fall, our resident cowboy getting on with his dream ranch, (I do hope he drops the litigation against his neighbor, draw a fucking line down the middle of the disputed land it amounts to 0.4 acres each, shake hands and get on with life.) Jimbo developing his lake I hope the mosquitos ain't too bad. Countless others realizing some of their life's ambitions. Lambos, hookers and blow. Or even a John Deere, not much difference in price from a Lambo, 380 HP but not much female pulling power, 0-30 in 2 minutes.

For sure, some good and decently detailed stories about how BTC has improved actual lives in a variety of ways and maybe even causing some beyond expectations levels of windfalls for guys (and perhaps gal) who had engaged in preparations along the way.

One thing that comes across in your voluminous posts is the recurring theme of looking at Bitcoin over the long term. I like the concept of the 200 week moving average and have come to regard this as a better price indicator than the frothy tops.  

It seems that in the past couple of months I have been playing around with considering the 208-week moving average as the bottom of bear markets and the 104-week moving average as the bottom for bull markets, and for sure there can be short-lived periods of exceptions, even to any kind of seemingly strong guideline - remember our March 2020 liquidity event, the BTC price went below the then 208-week moving average (which was around $5k at the time) for something that was close to two weeks, and then the BTC price would have been below the 104-Week moving average (which was then around $7k) for a bit of a longer time (maybe even bouncing below for a couple of months) - even though we were then in a bull run.. arguably in a bull run that was confirmed since about May 2019 - even though there can be some troubling periods when trying to figure out whether we are "in" a bull run or if we still are in a bull run (once we had confirmed at an earlier time).

And all the in-between action is just so much noise in a super 12 year bull run.

Of course, the four-year fractal is within there too in various places (at least three times), and can throw people for a loop.
 
I like too that you advocate to would-be buyers to DCA their purchases. One of my sons allocates 25% of his salary every month and just buys it at month end price. He tells me he hopes to be retiring at 40 in a few years time having reached your definition of Fuck Off status.

Wow.. a 25% allocation of monthly salary is decently aggressive, and many years, I had aimed for saving at least 10% of my salary, but of course that was prior to bitcoin, but gosh, even with that, I was investing in traditional investments about 25 years by the time that I got into bitcoin, and surely none of my traditional investments even came close to the performance potential of bitcoin - while at the same time, I still can second-guess regarding how I would have treated the availability of something like a bitcoin when I was in my earlier years of building my investments.. and even my go-to 10% would have probably done well, and it takes quite a bit more discipline to get up to something like 25%.. whoaza!!!!.


By the way, we also do need to be considering a variety of things if we want to go into fuck you status at such an early age as 40.. in terms of income and future income source, and if there are any pensions involved, or 401ks or even govt. benefits like social security and medicaid.  There would be some need to make sure that medical is adequately covered and even something like social security might have been projected to kick in at a certain rate at 62 or whatever, but if there are no contributions for the last 22 years or so, then the projected amount to be received might end up being half as much as what had been projected... .. and of course, some of those funds might not be eligible for withdrawal until reaching a certain age, too.. Anyhow, of course, if there is enough of a financial cushion, then there can be an ability to project enough income, even if some of those other sources were to dry up... which surely could happen.

For most giving up work seems to be a big goal.

That's for sure.. it seems to be part of what constitutes an actual "fuck you" status in terms of any kind of work that ends up being done would be nearly completely on your own terms.  Of course, some people might still enter into contracts with others, and surely if you were to be in a contract to do some short term work, then you would still be obligated to fulfill the contract..  For sure, if you were already in fuck you status, then you might decide NOT to enter into those kinds of contracts in the first place..  unless you might also be considering entering into a contract for something other than money, too.
 

I guess it would be for me too, if I had to answer to a boss. Fortunately I've never had a boss, I run my own business, the successes and failures of my decisions are mine, the buck stops with me, all the rewards are mine and the IRS. I like my work, I get extreme satisfaction from farming, it is true that it is more a way of life than a job, as such I've probably never worked a day in my life.

Of course, farmers enter all kinds of contractual relations, and surely there can be issues if you are hiring people or once you take on a project such as planting seed or raising animals for a season or more.. So, sure I do not know about all your trade offs and obligations, and sometimes you might not want to be stuck doing something or even overseeing projects, even if you like doing it, overall.   I suppose in the end, you can consider if there might be a status that you would consider fuck you status or not, and sometimes people do want to have some sense of fulfillment, even if they might have a lot of money/assets that gives them a lot of options.. and the more liquid the money/assets, then the more options that they likely have.
 

Family farms suffer high rates of bankruptcy and for me Bitcoin gives the security that I have a good buffer against any future bad years.
Keep on filling these pages Mr Jay  

Of course, bitcoin can give a lot of options.  I had various kinds of employment, but I also had a business with a partner for around 8 years, and in that business, I could proclaim to be the boss or even to share some bossiness aspects with the partner.  Then the partner quit so I was left with trying to figure out how to keep the business going and/or trying to sell the business and other matters related to the business (including working out the dispute with the partner.. man-made dispute?  or what?).. Anyhow, there was a certain time that allowed for the resolution of matters and even the ongoing appreciation of bitcoin, so I decided to just close the business and just say fuck off with the goal of selling it or anything like that, and seems that bitcoin allowed for that option to just say who cares about the potential value of the business or its assets, because at some point, the value of the bitcoin investment was greater than the business, more liquid and provided more options and fewer obligations than did the business, and the business was causing a variety of tying down... including geographically.. and really bitcoin's historical price appreciation and even anticipated future price appreciation could also bring in more value than the business, too.. so it seemed like a lot of waste of time to keep such a  business going.. even if there might have been some satisfaction in having a business, too perhaps?  perhaps?..


One thing that comes across in your voluminous posts is the recurring theme of looking at Bitcoin over the long term. I like the concept of the 200 week moving average and have come to regard this as a better price indicator than the frothy tops.  And all the in-between action is just so much noise in a super 12 year bull run. I like too that you advocate to would-be buyers to DCA their purchases. One of my sons allocates 25% of his salary every month and just buys it at month end price.

... this is actually a really smart buying strategy now that options are becoming a big part of the current btc price action ... DCA once a month on options expiry dates over months is the way to beat the noise and leverage time against the shorts dollars

Gosh.. I don't know marcus.  I have been a fan of weekly DCA rather than waiting a whole month.  I just have too many difficulties in figuring out how to wait so long.. but sure, some people might well have that kind of disciple.. and the more power to them.

One of the main reasons that I might consider monthly rather than weekly were if there were fees that became a bit more acceptable if lumping the money together.. so if someone ONLY has $10 per week, then maybe it would be more cost effective to treat that as $40 per month.  

I am presuming that 25% of Farmer Bill's son's salary is much greater than $40 per month... would likely be in the greater than $1,000 per month (especially if he is considering that his son might be reaching fuck you status in a few years)... but what do I know?  

For DCA investing, we are missing one of the BIGGEST pieces of information, which is time-in-the-market, and of course, we know that DCA is not really so much about timing the market and historically speaking, any guy/gal in bitcoin for a decently long period of time would have chances for decent returns, even for lower levels of investing..   For example, a guy who started to get pretty aggressive in his bitcoin investing $1,000 per month for the past four years would still only have accumulated less than 6 BTC, so I am not sure if we can use Farmer Bill's registration date or we just might need some more info.. seems that Farmer Bill had been investing in bitcoin for quite a bit longer than his registration date.. as far as I recall..  

Even DCA investing into BTC at $1k per month for 5 years versus 4 years could make a pretty BIG difference in terms of the amount of BTC accumulated being at 18 BTC versus only 6 BTC at 4 years.  So there is a pretty good-sized difference with "ONLY" one additional year; that's for sure.

Anyhow, I am presuming that there must be something else going on in terms of maybe having longer time in the market and maybe even some earlier lump sum investment that might have happened, perhaps? perhaps.



Thanks for taking the time to comment on my post and for a snippet into some aspects of your personal life.

Good observation, that although I do not have a boss, I do have obligations to certain entities via contracts, in which I often have little sway over the terms.

I like your example that one of the things Bitcoin has enabled you to do, was to walk away from a business you were not happy to be running and to move on with your life. It's often hard for folk to just say fuck it and walk, because of the sunk cost that's been invested over the years.

As for my son's continuing investment it is much greater than the figures you envisage. Far from being reckless he regards this amount as sound investment towards his future.
He bought his first coins in 2011 whilst a student over in England from Intersango GBP1000 around $1500 worth at the time, 200+ coins.
The money was deposited in cash over the counter to Intersango's account, what trust! It was early days and UK banking system was not ready for this or to grant Intersango proper banking facilities. They were all sold at $30 (6X purchase price) to help fund his studies.
In and out of Bit and Shit coin over the years he's now in a good job in finance in the City of London and has been increasing his stash of Bitcoin again over last several years. Like nanobtc he did not like the farming life, but the long hours and hard work in all weather put him in a good position to take life in its stride. When colleagues bitch about their long hours or hard work he tells them to go work on a farm for a month.




 
158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 28, 2021, 10:42:24 AM

I had a dreadful thought one day, that many of the so called Trolls may have mental illness. I would not want any of them to cause themselves harm because of some remark I'd made. So I've decided to go soft and treat them sympathetically. While behind the scenes I may have a little chuckle to myself.
Can you imagine what it's like visiting this forum as a no coiner, reading lots of posts with people actively involved in the Bitcoin space but being too afraid to join them and just get in at today's price, always praying for the big drop down to whatever price, then if it gets there, they still don't buy in. So they can only shout in from the sidelines, joyous at the discomfort some holders experience when the price tanks. The Germans have a word for it 'schadenfreude'.
While Billy Coiner was making stupid comments at $30k, I bought BTC 0.25 at $31.5k thinking the $32k window was about to close, I was wrong and when it dropped further I bought another BTC 0.25 at $29.6K. Not often spare fiat and buying opportunities arise at the same time. Meanwhile Billy Coiner will be suffering extreme angst at the rest of the forum's good fortune. With Phillipma the miner generating windfall profits from the hashrate fall, our resident cowboy getting on with his dream ranch, (I do hope he drops the litigation against his neighbor, draw a fucking line down the middle of the disputed land it amounts to 0.4 acres each, shake hands and get on with life.) Jimbo developing his lake I hope the mosquitos ain't too bad. Countless others realizing some of their life's ambitions. Lambos, hookers and blow. Or even a John Deere, not much difference in price from a Lambo, 380 HP but not much female pulling power, 0-30 in 2 minutes.

One thing that comes across in your voluminous posts is the recurring theme of looking at Bitcoin over the long term. I like the concept of the 200 week moving average and have come to regard this as a better price indicator than the frothy tops.  And all the in-between action is just so much noise in a super 12 year bull run. I like too that you advocate to would-be buyers to DCA their purchases. One of my sons allocates 25% of his salary every month and just buys it at month end price. He tells me he hopes to be retiring at 40 in a few years time having reached your definition of Fuck Off status. For most giving up work seems to be a big goal. I guess it would be for me too, if I had to answer to a boss. Fortunately I've never had a boss, I run my own business, the successes and failures of my decisions are mine, the buck stops with me, all the rewards are mine and the IRS. I like my work, I get extreme satisfaction from farming, it is true that it is more a way of life than a job, as such I've probably never worked a day in my life. Family farms suffer high rates of bankruptcy and for me Bitcoin gives the security that I have a good buffer against any future bad years.
Keep on filling these pages Mr Jay  




Well put Bill, I chuckle alot to myself too. It is rather sad that we live in a world where a Delusional Troll with no capacity to create anything in his life get to choose what People get and dont get.

It is not about money. Money is feeble when it comes to Inventions and Beneficial studys for Human Kind.

Just like an Electric Solution for the whole Globe would be worth around 369 Trillion $ if we would be selling such a thing. Thats 90 Tril Yearly for as long as the Grid works.

When a Brilliant Person comes in the Circles of Ordinary it is easily identifiable Who the Brilliant person. The Ordinary instantly create a Barrier and fight with all 4 to stop the Extrodinary from Progressing.

I have spent my whole life studying, I have learned almost everything about Humanity and the important parts of History. Therefore tricking me or making me a Mule for someone is impossible

And no I am not going to search for investors for the Grid. Ever! if I am going to make such a thing ill make it with Help not with Investment. I have learned much about this thanks to Nikola Tesla which was the Greatest Scientists in our Counted Time line! Therefore I decided that nobody ever again is going to make Good Money from me. I give freebies to those Who Helped me in any way and they make good money from THAT Freebie. But thats Crumbs compared to what I can actualy produce. So ID rather Die than produce anything for the Reptilian like scum.

"Bruce Lee : A limited Mind cannot think Freely."



Delusions of Grandeur
159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2021, 09:57:26 PM
Ghahah they quotting from Reddit. You guys truly are pathetic worse than me 😂😂😂. Give me money and give Brains to some. GET A LIFE AND GET A BRAIN

Then 😂😂 he puts Morpheus in like 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he hacked the Matrix 😂😂😂😂😂
Special offer : I give Therapy sessions or Psychology lessons for 1BTC a month. 😁😁

Lesson 1 : Honor has nothing to do with Money.
Lesson 2: Money is a Tool to Uplif the Morals of Other Human Beings or Bash it(among other things) . Except Bashing aint really a moral thing.


What the hell is a bpip? Must be one of ur clowns thinking that this name looks awesome! Ima steal it 😂

You need help buddy, do yourself a favor. make an appointment at the doctors office.

Explain to the doctor about the Number 3 and how it will unlock unlimited power from the universe, he will understand.

I apologize for any nasty comments I made about you, it was uncalled for given your state of health.

I do appreciate your humor Farmer Bill,  yet sometimes it seems difficult to understand how some of these trolls/shills/beggars are able to get away with keeping their forum accounts for as long as they do, even though it almost comes off as if diptwat eXPHorizon is blatantly in the face of mods/administrators.. and flaunting his level of not getting banned (yet).

I had a dreadful thought one day, that many of the so called Trolls may have mental illness. I would not want any of them to cause themselves harm because of some remark I'd made. So I've decided to go soft and treat them sympathetically. While behind the scenes I may have a little chuckle to myself.
Can you imagine what it's like visiting this forum as a no coiner, reading lots of posts with people actively involved in the Bitcoin space but being too afraid to join them and just get in at today's price, always praying for the big drop down to whatever price, then if it gets there, they still don't buy in. So they can only shout in from the sidelines, joyous at the discomfort some holders experience when the price tanks. The Germans have a word for it 'schadenfreude'.
While Billy Coiner was making stupid comments at $30k, I bought BTC 0.25 at $31.5k thinking the $32k window was about to close, I was wrong and when it dropped further I bought another BTC 0.25 at $29.6K. Not often spare fiat and buying opportunities arise at the same time. Meanwhile Billy Coiner will be suffering extreme angst at the rest of the forum's good fortune. With Phillipma the miner generating windfall profits from the hashrate fall, our resident cowboy getting on with his dream ranch, (I do hope he drops the litigation against his neighbor, draw a fucking line down the middle of the disputed land it amounts to 0.4 acres each, shake hands and get on with life.) Jimbo developing his lake I hope the mosquitos ain't too bad. Countless others realizing some of their life's ambitions. Lambos, hookers and blow. Or even a John Deere, not much difference in price from a Lambo, 380 HP but not much female pulling power, 0-30 in 2 minutes.

One thing that comes across in your voluminous posts is the recurring theme of looking at Bitcoin over the long term. I like the concept of the 200 week moving average and have come to regard this as a better price indicator than the frothy tops.  And all the in-between action is just so much noise in a super 12 year bull run. I like too that you advocate to would-be buyers to DCA their purchases. One of my sons allocates 25% of his salary every month and just buys it at month end price. He tells me he hopes to be retiring at 40 in a few years time having reached your definition of Fuck Off status. For most giving up work seems to be a big goal. I guess it would be for me too, if I had to answer to a boss. Fortunately I've never had a boss, I run my own business, the successes and failures of my decisions are mine, the buck stops with me, all the rewards are mine and the IRS. I like my work, I get extreme satisfaction from farming, it is true that it is more a way of life than a job, as such I've probably never worked a day in my life. Family farms suffer high rates of bankruptcy and for me Bitcoin gives the security that I have a good buffer against any future bad years.
Keep on filling these pages Mr Jay  
160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2021, 08:40:51 PM

I don't see any reason why successful non synthetic chemical methods of pest control cannot not be scaled up.
Milk diluted 15:1 can work against disease by encouraging antagonistic micro-flora, it has to be applied before onset of disease. For example tomato blight or downy mildew on onions.
The liquid feeds made from composted leaves are every bit as good as commercially bought feeds like seaweed extract.
On bigger scales organic farmers make much use of (costly) insect mesh and baking soda can be used as it increases alkalinity which deters some diseases.
Great to see people growing some of their own healthy food.


I actually earned some experience in winemaking, in two of the best national and also international countries/areas for growing wine. I also made a minor degree in growing and making wine.
Joghurt works even better than milk, i saw the results myself in vineyards at organic wine production, with only one caveat:
You have to spray it twice as often (weekly) which increases use of water and machines, doubles working hours, while the chemical industry is arguing not only with the "safety" of their products as well as the time and resource saving aspects. This is a win for many winemakers, especially at larger scaled production facilities.
 
EDIT: Thanks, by the way, for posting this. It brought up a lot of forgotten memories of that time.




Central Otago, NZ south island.
You see, i wasn't that good at photography back in these days, compared to recent works  Tongue



The photograph is fine, I'm glad it rekindled some memories for you. Thanks for the tip that yogurt works better than milk.
The spray I used on my potatoes this morning to protect against blight is the same one you will be familiar with on grape vines. Bordeaux mixture made from copper sulfate and slaked lime, first used in France over 120 years ago and I believe still approved for organic vineyards.

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