What were they mining using the cryptonight algo then?

I said that people are saying their profits have increased due to the difficulty level decrease that having NH out of the picture has created.  That has nothing to do with what anyone is mining with.  The night before NH went down, I was hitting about 6.50/day per card with them.  When they went down, people started saying they were seeing record profits because NH was down, so difficulty had decreased with all of those NH users not mining.  I tried switching to XMR-STAK.  NH was paying more per card to mine Cryptonight than a mining pool with XMR-STAK mining Monero straight up.  All of that while difficulty is supposedly down?

Well ... I was getting more than $6/day per RX Vega 56 with NH when BTC was around 15K.  Now it seems I'll be lucky to get $4/day per card mining Monero with XMR-STAK (1800ish h/s per card).  I'm not sure why so many people are saying their profits have increased substantially due to a decrease in difficulty.  If that's the case, what am I missing?

Winminer is buggy as fuck.  Maybe part of it has to do with the surge in use yesterday.  I tested it on a 6 gpu rig last night.  Less profitable than NH was during few hours that I had it running.     

Why isn't there an option for the AMD Vega 56 and 64's on whattomine.com?

They're just cleaning the leaves out of the pools.

I'm with you on this one, because I ran into the issue last night while building a 6 gpu rig with the same board.  Maybe he could up the power suppy situation a bit, but that isn't going to solve the problem that he is having.  I swapped pcie slots, swapped riser adapters, swapped gpu's.  Everything was working just fine, until I tried to add the 4th card.  Did a little google searching and found out what the real problem was.

I just built a rig with the exact board last night and had the same issue.  The bios needs to be upgraded and a couple of changes need to be made in the bios after you've upgraded it.  Looking for the link to the youtube video that I followed to fix this problem.  Give me a minute.

Here you go ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1FnEYI25z0&t=87s

Lol ... I wouldn't call someone lazy who uses NH, even if they have been using it for as long as it has been around.  Perhaps the difference in profit isn't worth the time it would take them to do anything more with it at the present time.  Is the difference in profit worth quitting your full time job for?  Maybe if you work at McDonald's or deliver pizza, it is. 

Is the difference in profit worth the time it would take away from your other obligations?  Each person has to answer that for themselves.  The answer isn't the same for everyone.

Lol .. BitShit offering free S/H from Chinaland?

They still have a week on the first order, right?  Is Nov 21-30 supposed to be the delivery or ship date?  I asked them in an email about the estimations on their website, but it was never returned.  After reading about Bitmain for a little while, I realize that their business practices are like most other large manufacturing businesses in China, in terms of the customer support and satisfaction that we expect in the USA.  

The executive Chinamen (in a business that big) simply do not give a fuck about the customer, so customer service is non-existent.  I've dealt with exactly the same thing in other business dealings with Chinese manufacturing.  If you’re not buying goods from them on a very large scale per order, you won’t get any sort of response to any inquiry.  If you’ve already paid them, they care even less.  

My thoughts are that the Chinaman executive does not care to employ the number of people that it would require to provide customer service to those of us who are buying 10k usd worth of goods per order.  The Chinaman doesn’t care to notice that a lot of a little equals a little of a lot.

Lastly, and from previous business experience with the Chinaman, the only way to come out on top is the fuck the Chinaman, before he fucks you.  Never forget, the Chinaman is always looking for a way to fuck you, because you live in the USA.  They are still pissed off because their government won’t even allow them to use an alternative currency.  China hurts every other country just as much as they help.  They just cancel themsevles out in the long term.
    

Yeah it's pretty stupid to be honest.  Several years ago people started describing Cyber Monday as the Monday after Thanksgiving in the USA when everyone was back to work and shopping online in their offices.  It's just another day for companies to say their have shit on sale.  Mostly, it's like any other day.  Idiots.

You must have bought D3's.

Editing my comment about the pcie risers.  I guess you kinda have to use them ... Because of heat and space?

How's he going to afford 6 GTX1070's on a 1000USD budget?  Aren't they around $400 each?

Are the EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G2 80+ GOLD, 1600W PSU's going to be overkill for use with the S9?  I realize they are triple the price of the
APW3++ PSU's, but they come with a 10 year warranty.  My thought is that it's one less thing that has to be shipped back to Bitmain, if it fails.

I could buy 3 APW3++ PSU's for the price of the one mentioned above and just have spares, but if they are only going to last a year, I'd rather go with something that has a 10 year warranty.

I don't think I have much of a choice on the Antminer S9, because there is nothing else like it on the market.  That's just a fact that I'm beginning to understand that I'm going to have to accept. 

To those who have purchased from Bitmain with them only accepting BCH, any recommendations on wallets and exchanges to use? 

I don't know when they put up the Jan11 ship date batch for sale, but I would say that they aren't in their greatest demand anymore, if other batches sold out in hours and people were camping out for them like the next f-ing iPhone.  From what I've read about Bitmain, I hope mid-sized operations in the USA are realizing that Bitmain is a shit company and demand better customer service.  Why should anyone be paying for return shipping to China on a unit that failed under warranty?

I'm looking at the Canaan A7's as well.  Why are you saying the S9's are cheaper though?  Bitmain has the S9's at $1415 plus $105 for power supply and Canaan has the AvalonMiner 741 at $798 plus $260 for power supply on Amazon plus the price of a controller.  I also thought that I read the power consumption on the AvalonMiner 741 was way too high.

How many hash boards are in each S9?